Galileo 2009

[Greg Needel]

Lets do this.


11, 20, 25, 40, 45, 47, 56, 65, 67, 71, 111, 115, 151, 168, 179, 203, 207, 226, 230, 279, 281, 303, 359, 418, 435, 440, 461, 494, 555, 704, 708, 716, 744, 753, 815, 870, 932, 967, 971, 973, 987, 999, 1058, 1124, 1195, 1208, 1250, 1261, 1270, 1318, 1332, 1450, 1477, 1540, 1551, 1598, 1601, 1646, 1662, 1676, 1710, 1717, 1742, 1745, 1772, 1829, 1836, 1872, 1885, 1902, 1923, 1941, 2214, 2230, 2234, 2348, 2550, 2579, 2638, 2642, 2729, 2741,
2775, 2844, 2910, 2936, 3059

[James1902]

W00T!! Looking Forward to it :D
This year Atl is gonna rock!!

[prettycolors91]

Oh goodness....this is gonna get craaazy! Can you say stacked?

[Alan Anderson]

My first reaction: "Well, at least we're not in Archimedes, I guess." That's always been the farthest from the entrance, making the walk from the stands to the pit even longer. I'm really stretching to find something to make me feel more calm about the TechnoKats being among such teams. :)

[whytheheckme]

I'm excitedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd :D

I'm doing Queueing for Gali, y'all ready to play??!? :ahh:

[soccerchapo12]

first time there this is going to be lots of fun
team 1332 lets play

[A_Reed]

My team is in Arch. but wow my money is on this one, too deep!:eek:

[Greg Needel]

My first reaction: "Well, at least we're not in Archimedes, I guess." That's always been the farthest from the entrance, making the walk from the stands to the pit even longer. I'm really stretching to find something to make me feel more calm about the TechnoKats being among such teams. :)



yea but we have the furthest pits, it balances out. I just hope all these good teams don't consume a poor little rookie team like us :cool:

[swamp_child]

this is going to be a tough division, so many awesome teams, just from my quick glance
45, 67, 71, 111, 744, 1902 and of course 179 ;]

[JaneYoung]

This is going to be a party!

[Magnechu]

Wow some very good teams in here. Glad? to see we're one of them. :P

[Swampdude]

Talk about your bargain 3rd picks, not to mention how many top notch teams will be packing up after qualifications. This will be such a blast to compete with all of you! Looking forward to it :)

[Alan Anderson]

yea but we have the furthest pits, it balances out.

It balances okay for the drive teams, but anyone else in Archimedes gets the short end of the stick. The walk around to the far corner of the stands -- and back again -- was far and away my least favorite part of my 2004 Championship experience. Having to go all the way past the seats and turn back toward the entrance to go down the steps just added insult to injury.

It's much nicer to be on the field right by the entrance corner, with no extra change in direction required to reach a good place to sit.

[smurfgirl]

The UberBots are on Galileo! It looks like it will be a fun (but challenging) field. I can see some awesome alliances being formed.

[waialua359]

You can always find 359 in one of the hardest divisions.
We always seem to be in the same division as 71, 111, and 179 year after year.
Find the pattern in that and you solved this algorithm. :p

[Nick Orlando]

I am pumped and ready to go, look at all these great teams :D

[Akash Rastogi]

Finally a year all the divisions are pretty much stacked.

NJ looks VERY well represented....11, 25, 56, 1676, 1923...Oh my.:cool:

So...can we get a little description of all bots attending? Me first

MORT Team 11
Pneumatic Dumper
NJ 4th Overall Selection- Semifinalist
Philly 4th Overall Selection- Quarterfinalist, 7th seed

Obviously Philly we upped our game.

Please post up a little about your robot!
Any possible alliance come to mind?

Woot Team Hammond! Can't wait to play with you guys again!! ^_^

[Zyik]

Well this is going to be interesting...

Does this mean I can't wear my Team 67 Jacket? :)

[Akash Rastogi]

Man....I just ran my eyes through the list again.

Uhhhhh can you say STACKED! This should be the best Championship yet.

[ttldomination]

Wow...stacked lineup..I'll be happy if we're in as a second pick..

[ttldomination]

Where did this list come from? I don't see a list on the FIRST website...

[Wayne Doenges]

You have to get your bot pass me. I'm inspecting for Galileo.
I can''t be bought, but I can be rented :D

[Metalcrafters]

As always the competition looks tough. It's been a while since we have been in anything but Newton. It's been a tough but great year, so don't hold back. We are ready to have fun...

[Akash Rastogi]

Where did this list come from? I don't see a list on the FIRST website...

There was no official announcement yet but this is an official list from the FIRST site (as noted by the OP)
By the way if everyone could post their offensive average from 1114's database please do.

11's World Offensive Average
93rd percentile woot!

[Ryan Dognaux]

You have to get your bot pass me. I'm inspecting for Galileo.
I can''t be bought, but I can be rented :D

But Indiana teams get a free pass right? :]

Looking forward to meeting all the teams in Galileo and playing alongside & against many of you! It seems we have a real big list of notable teams from the Midwest, East Coast, West Coast & South; I'm really pumped and I know the rest of our team's students and mentors are as well. Swing by 1646's pit and let's talk!

[JesseK]

Hoorah, Galileo two years in a row :cool:

<--- First prediction: The HammandHotStangs will edge out the Midnight RaiderKats with a score of 152 to 144.

Statistically speaking, anyways :x

[smurfgirl]

Hoorah, Galileo two years in a row :cool:

<--- First prediction: The HammandHotStangs will edge out the Midnight RaiderKats with a score of 152 to 144.

Statistically speaking, anyways :x

Somehow I would be surprised if any of those teams were around to be a third partner... although there are a lot of great teams on Galileo this year.

[Wayne C.]

You can always find 359 in one of the hardest divisions.


and that's where you like to be ; )

Galileo is going to be a real blast. Will fate finally strike!!!

Many of our friends are in the shark tank with us. Gonna be blood in the water....


WC

(got my Water Buffalo Killer knife just in case)

[schaffin]

Team 1710 is pumped for Atlanta and to be able to play with some incredible teams!

I am also excited to be in the same division as WildStang after we won the midwest regional with them two years ago.

Good Luck Everyone and Stay Safe!
=]

[Barry Bonzack]

What are we waiting for, lets get the cheer going early!

GALI-

[smurfgirl]

-LEO!

Galileo and Archimedes have the coolest sounding cheers.

[goodsky]

LEO!

and while I'm at it...

Oink Oink BOOM!

the first of many to come!

I'm pumped to see everyone next week! This should be pretty great!

[smurfgirl]

LEO!

and while I'm at it...

Oink Oink BOOM!

the first of many to come!

I'm pumped to see everyone next week! This should be pretty great!

Sorry, I beat you to it. (:
With your team in this division, the thread and the field are sure to be full of fun cheers though.

[Cooley744]

ohhhhh man this is going to be a ridiculous division!
someone asked for team stats so here we go:

Team 744 Shark Attack
Power dumper
hopper holds up to 16
we manage to dump a filled hopper about 3 times per match.
Florida Regional Finalist (lost by 8 points)
Ranked 4th (3rd seed alliance captain)

[115inventorsam]

Galileo for the second year in a row for 115! And for the second year in a row, what a division! It's going to be fun watching our robot compete alongside such awesome teams!

Good luck to all the teams, can't wait til next week!

[DMetalKong]

Finally a year all the divisions are pretty much stacked.

NJ looks VERY well represented....11, 25, 56, 1676, 1923...Oh my.:cool:



Don't forget 303!

[Doug Leppard]

Looking forward to connecting with you all and sharing secrets of the trade.

I am the lead engineering mentor for Bacon, love to connect with other mentors in the same role and compare notes.

[ttldomination]

Team 1261
Robolions
Gravity/Power Dumpers
Capacity of 15 balls (safely)
Empty Cell transferring focused (average 2.3 per match
Reached quaterfinals at P'tree and semi-finals at Palmetto.

[Andy Baker]

Jake: First you traded the Cadillac in for a robot. Then you lied to me about the band. And now you're gonna put me right back in Galileo!

Elwood: They're not gonna catch us. We're on a mission from Dean.

...

Please be kind to the nun behind the glass. The TechnoKats are excited to be back in Galileo.

Andy B.

[wendymom]

We get to see Andy as a penquin!!!! I'm even more excited now!

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Galileo has been the "best" field for the past two years.

It is also the first field you see when you enter the Georgia dome from the normal visitors entrance.

[Wayne Doenges]

Jake: First you traded the Cadillac in for a robot. Then you lied to me about the band. And now you're gonna put me right back in Galileo!

Elwood: They're not gonna catch us. We're on a mission from Dean

"It's 600 miles to Atlanta, we have a full bus of students, half a cooller of Mt. Dew, it's dark and the drivers are wearing sun glasses"

"Hit it"

Good Luck Team 45 TeknoKats

[waialua359]

and that's where you like to be ; )

Galileo is going to be a real blast. Will fate finally strike!!!

Many of our friends are in the shark tank with us. Gonna be blood in the water....


WC

(got my Water Buffalo Killer knife just in case)

Defense will test a lot of the "great" teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The one that carry an alliance despite heavy defense and traffic will be far and few in this field of teams.:yikes: :yikes:

I'm looking forward to watching Andy Baker as a coach for 45 on the field. Perhaps we will be together again like in '03 eliminations. We just had a few laughs talking about it. Andy has a great memory and can remember every detail.

I say that the CA will come from this field also!

[Akash Rastogi]

Don't forget 303!

Man I didn't even see you there! My bad. And there's a rookie joining us too! Cool.:cool:

[Akash Rastogi]

Me thinks the Championship Chairman's winner will be from Galileo:cool:

*knocks on wood*

[Nica F.]

I google mapped all the teams in the Galileo division, see it here:

Galileo Google Map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=106562318672011236838.000467141e5cb198b5835)

Great to see a great variety of teams! Some from Brazil, Puerto Rico, and Israel! Surprisingly none from Canada though. I made it editable by anyone, so feel free to move your team in your exact locations and add a little additional info, I just put the teams in their cities that they provided on the FIRST site.

[Nawaid Ladak]

when i first saw the list earlier at work... i was like "wow, this division is stacked" the 1st AC can't go wrong during alliance selection, just look at all the great teams, 20 ,25, 40, 45, 67, 71, 111, 179, 359, 744, 987, 1318, 1646, 1902, 1923... this division is amazing

it's a shame Archimedes is on the opposite side of the dome...

11:45am Saturday morning.... this will be fun to watch....

[smurfgirl]

Me thinks the Championship Chairman's winner will be from Galileo:cool:

*knocks on wood*

Do you have a suggestion as to which team it might be?

I'm kinda biased, but I'd really like to see 236 win... so I'm rooting for Curie.

[goodsky]

Me thinks the Championship Chairman's winner will be from Galileo

*knocks on wood*

*quickly knocks on wood too!* We're not in the running this year but for everyone else!

[davidfv]

first time there this is going to be lots of fun
team 1332 lets play

Good Luck...Hoping for another Banner for you guys!:] :yikes:

[Schnabel]

GALI

Anyone want to make a new signature bar this year? I'm really excited to do this! Let's prove that Galileo is the best field out there!

[waialua359]

*quickly knocks on wood too!* We're not in the running this year but for everyone else!

well, we're very hopeful also after winning CMP EI last year. :p

[cam-man]

Jake: First you traded the Cadillac in for a robot. Then you lied to me about the band. And now you're gonna put me right back in Galileo!

Elwood: They're not gonna catch us. We're on a mission from Dean.

...

Please be kind to the nun behind the glass. The TechnoKats are excited to be back in Galileo.

Andy B.

"It's 600 miles to Atlanta, we have a full bus of students, half a cooller of Mt. Dew, it's dark and the drivers are wearing sun glasses"

"Hit it"

Good Luck Team 45 TeknoKats

Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now....

[Akash Rastogi]

Do you have a suggestion as to which team it might be?

I'm kinda biased, but I'd really like to see 236 win... so I'm rooting for Curie.

NJ teams have much love for the Hawaiian Kids, and I'm always a sucker for an original legacy team, 45.

[JaneYoung]

LEO

The stands are going to be as exciting as the action on the field! This is going to be incredible.

Not only do many of these teams know how to make noise - they are just plain awesome in so many ways. And the pits, oh wow.

Edit: How many Hall of Fame teams do we have? I count 4.

[smurfgirl]

NJ teams have much love for the Hawaiian Kids, and I'm always a sucker for an original legacy team, 45.

Ok, I can agree with you there.
Obviously I'll be happy for whoever wins. :]

[AlexD744]

and that's where you like to be ; )

Galileo is going to be a real blast. Will fate finally strike!!!

Many of our friends are in the shark tank with us. Gonna be blood in the water....


WC

(got my Water Buffalo Killer knife just in case)

I'll think we'll fit in nicely to a shark tank.;)

[Akash Rastogi]

Me want to see this happen in Atlanta

http://www.technokats.org/gallery2/d/4885-2/natls11a.jpg

:D

[engunneer]

Looking forward to connecting with you all and sharing secrets of the trade.

I am the lead engineering mentor for Bacon, love to connect with other mentors in the same role and compare notes.

I look forward to meeting the other mentors as well, please stop by our pit and say hi!

Our robot will be easier to see this year, too. (it's clear, but it's a lot bigger then our 2008 rabbit).

Also, We have at least one WA team on each of the four fields. Be sure to check out 1983 (Curie), 488 (Archimedes), and 360 (Newton), IMHO three of the top WA teams.

Shout out to 359, glad to see you again after a fun time in Oregon.

[Alivia]

I'm not going to be in ATL this year (I guess there's something called college that's semi-important and I can't manage to get out of it...hahah) but I am SOOO excited to watch all of you teams on the webcast! This is an amazing group of teams, and I can't wait to see you all raise the bar of competition.

I'm already planning a Galileo watch party with friends...so stoked! :D

[smurfgirl]

I'm not going to be in ATL this year (I guess there's something called college that's semi-important and I can't manage to get out of it...hahah) but I am SOOO excited to watch all of you teams on the webcast! This is an amazing group of teams, and I can't wait to see you all raise the bar of competition.

I'm already planning a Galileo watch party with friends...so stoked! :D

Me too! I have good friends from 115 and 1208, and somehow all of our teams are in the same division, so it's going to be really easy to plan a webcast party. :D

[Barry Bonzack]

For those that didn't see my predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=847945&postcount=63)

here is how I believe Galileo will turn out

Galileo
1. 67, 71, 1646
2. 45, 987, 1902
3. 111, 1717, 418
4. 1250, 744, 2775
5. 40, 25, 20
6. 179, 56, 1923
7. 359, 65, 1332
8. 1208, 494, 1742

Backup bots will be 973, 1195, 11, and 932. 230 will continue giving everyone a lightshow.

1 2
\ 2 /
1-|-2
/ \
4 6


Feel free to make predictions of your own. The only thing I have learned about making predictions is that one can gaurantee they'll be incorrect.

GALI-

[waialua359]

For those that didn't see my predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=847945&postcount=63)

here is how I believe Galileo will turn out

Galileo
1. 67, 71, 1646
2. 45, 987, 1902
3. 111, 1717, 418
4. 1250, 744, 2775
5. 40, 25, 20
6. 179, 56, 1923
7. 359, 65, 1332
8. 1208, 494, 1742

1 2
\ 2 /
1-|-2
/ \
4 6


Feel free to make predictions of your own. The only thing I have learned about making predictions is that one can gaurantee they'll be incorrect.

GALI-

I would have prefered to not be an alliance captain and selected with the 16th pick (24th team). :D :D
Or be on the 5th alliance team with the middle team.
And another note: We have never been with any of these teams at CMP, only AGAINST most of them. Because Galileo has so many low-numbered teams compared to the other divisions, assuming veteran presence makes a difference, some teams will luck out with scheduling. I'd bet on it with only 7 matches to play in a field of 87.

[Akash Rastogi]

For those that didn't see my predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=847945&postcount=63)

here is how I believe Galileo will turn out

Galileo
1. 67, 71, 1646
2. 45, 987, 1902
3. 111, 1717, 418
4. 1250, 744, 2775
5. 40, 25, 20
6. 179, 56, 1923
7. 359, 65, 1332
8. 1208, 494, 1742

Backup bots will be 973, 1195, and 932. 230 will continue giving everyone a lightshow.

1 2
\ 2 /
1-|-2
/ \
4 6


Feel free to make predictions of your own. The only thing I have learned about making predictions is that one can gaurantee they'll be incorrect.

GALI-

I'd put 973 up there as a first selection. And maybe replace 1646 with..oh let's say..11:rolleyes: (Hey I can see that happening)


There's so many good teams in this division that it's going to end up like the MSC with A LOT of good teams going unselected. I'm just hoping we're not one of those in such a deep field.

[wcamp1742]

[QUOTE=Barry Bonzack;847946]For those that didn't see my predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=847945&postcount=63)

here is how I believe Galileo will turn out

Galileo
1. 67, 71, 1646
2. 45, 987, 1902
3. 111, 1717, 418
4. 1250, 744, 2775
5. 40, 25, 20
6. 179, 56, 1923
7. 359, 65, 1332
8. 1208, 494, 1742

Backup bots will be 973, 1195, and 932. 230 will continue giving everyone a lightshow.]

That sounds perfect to me. I'm just happy we got a mention :D

[dodar]

all I have to say about this is that 20 will not be a 2nd pick, they are a first round team or an alliance captain lol

[Ryan Dognaux]

here is how I believe Galileo will turn out

1. 67, 71, 1646

The only thing I have learned about making predictions is that one can guarantee they'll be incorrect.

GALI-

I hope your predictions are the most accurate ones ever made :)

It's really going to be a cut throat battle to the finish in Galileo. FIRST GP style, of course.

-LEO

[JaneYoung]

I think the one thing that can be predicted accurately is that the teams who make it to Einstein will have earned it. I look forward to the competition on Galileo and watching all of the teams compete together. I also look forward to trying to follow what is going on in the other divisions with all of those incredible and intense team efforts in play. Einstein is going to be spectacular, 2009-style.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Prediction: 67 will not seed in the top 3.

[smurfgirl]

Prediction: 67 will not seed in the top 3.

Who will then?

[JesseK]

1. 67, 71, 1646
2. 45, 987, 1902
Hmm, interesting that the #2 seed in the prediction would beat out the #1 seed. I'd agree with you because statistically #2 has a 3.94% advantage OPR and SoS-adjusted CCWM-wise, however ... it's team Hammand and team HOT ... somehow those guys just know how to get a W at the end of the day on Einstein.

[Michael Corsetto]

No love for the west coast huh? Along with 1717 and 987, 971 and 973 are two devastating dumpers who each have a banner under their belt already. I wouldn't be surprised if two of these four teams seed in the top 8.

[Zyik]

Prediction: 67 will not seed in the top 3.

Hmm, that's a possibility. HOT is going to be one of the main "teams to beat" so they're going to face a lot of defense and get a lot of attention to be blocked. This might end up in the opposing alliance ignoring a slightly higher scoring robot to defend against and dooming them, allowing HOT to triumph.

[Adam Freeman]

No love for the west coast huh? Along with 1717 and 987, 971 and 973 are two devastating dumpers who each have a banner under their belt already. I wouldn't be surprised if two of these four teams seed in the top 8.

I love West Coast robots. The designs that come from the west coast are some of my favorites of all time. In the past we have worked well with both 330 and 987 (ex. 2005 Champs and 2008 IRI).

I have not seen many of these robots, since we have been competing for the last 4 weeks straight....but I know that 1717 is very similar to 217...and we have had a lot of success with that style of robot watching our backs.

I am very interested to see how well we will do outside of Michigan. It appears the style of play varies throughout the country.

Looking forward to Friday morning!

[Akash Rastogi]

I am very interested to see how well we will do outside of Michigan. It appears the style of play varies throughout the country.


What would you classify/describe Michigan's style of play as? I only know that the north east is notorious for lots of defensive play although this year lot of teams broke out of that as killer offensive robots. But even still, all us :D northeast teams have that defensive skill inherent in our drivers, hehe.

[mjgard]

Well I sponsor a rookie team and we are excited to be part of Galileo. We are a small team, only 6 members. So we are looking for a team that would like some extra help with scouting, since we cant do much alone.

[waialua359]

No question that if 67 and 71 team up, they will be hard to beat.
However, lets not forget 71 and 1114 at Midwest this year, beaten by a well-rounded 8 seed. I think what's more important is who they would pick as the 3rd alliance member. 1646 in that scenario would be the key to that alliance.
With a deep field this year, I'm not so sure an 8 seed will be as successful like in the past, 7 vs 2, etc. #1 seed can still create a well-rounded alliance.
I dont think defense will prevail as much as in regional play. There are just too many offensive scoring machines in this division.
During seeding matches, scouters will have to identify those machines that dont really score and adjust their strategy then.

In '08 you only had 2 trackballs for 3 teams and no one really shared the trackball in hurdling.
In '07 you had the deadly bonus rampbots and an 8 seed could pick the best one out there.

[Ryan Dognaux]

1646 in that scenario would be the key to that alliance.

Did somebody say defense? I heard someone say defense.

But in all honesty we do have the ability to score & do super cells. We've had better luck in a defensive role vs. an offensive one in most matches.

[AdamHeard]

I love West Coast robots. The designs that come from the west coast are some of my favorites of all time. In the past we have worked well with both 330 and 987 (ex. 2005 Champs and 2008 IRI).

I have not seen many of these robots, since we have been competing for the last 4 weeks straight....but I know that 1717 is very similar to 217...and we have had a lot of success with that style of robot watching our backs.

I am very interested to see how well we will do outside of Michigan. It appears the style of play varies throughout the country.

Looking forward to Friday morning!

Oh, nothing to worry about over here on the West Coast....

[Wayne C.]

I'll think we'll fit in nicely to a shark tank.;)

got that right...shades of Orlando !!

[DarkFlame145]

This is going to be the most exciting division, In my opinion, not just because 1902 is it in. But because to the depth of teams. I will be here in Orlando rooting and cheering my heart out.

OINK OINK BOOM

[nlknauss]

NJ looks VERY well represented....11, 25, 56, 1676, 1923...Oh my.:cool:

And 2729, we're a part of the new kids on the block! We hope to learn a lot from all of these awesome teams. Can't way to see this...

Start another one!

GALI-!

[Travis Hoffman]

And 2729, we're a part of the new kids on the block! We hope to learn a lot from all of these awesome teams. Can't way to see this...

Start another one!

GALI-!

-MEDES!

("Quick! An interloper! Chase him away!") :)

[ttldomination]

I agree. The depth of this division is simply fascinating. I'm not interested in the 2nd picks this year than I am about the 1st picks, simply because there are so many teams to pick from.

[smurfgirl]

("Quick! An interloper! Chase him away!") :)


We won't chase you away if you can get more cool Bob Jadloski for us. :)

[Travis Hoffman]

We won't chase you away if you can get more cool Bob Jadloski for us. :)


Bob used to take team pics for everyone outside in the plaza, but I believe he told me FIRST was doing something else this year. If he attends the Championship (not a given), he isn't sure what he'll be doing.

[Huskie65]

Do you have a suggestion as to which team it might be?

I'm kinda biased, but I'd really like to see 236 win... so I'm rooting for Curie.

Wouldn't mind seeing someone from our division but I'm pullin for 217. Go Thunder Chickens!

[Akash Rastogi]

Anyone wanna trade a shirt for a MORT bandana? Ellen I believe you owe me an uberbots shirt from last year;) I gave one of your members the bandana last year to hand to you, don't know if it ever got there.

[smurfgirl]

Anyone wanna trade a shirt for a MORT bandana? Ellen I believe you owe me an uberbots shirt from last year;) I gave one of your members the bandana last year to hand to you, don't know if it ever got there.

Yeah, somehow we never ended up crossing paths at all. I never ended up with the bandana either... I'll have to find out who the bandana bandit is! I'm already making people do my t-shirt trading dirty work since I'm not going to be at the Championship this year... maybe I can coerce them into getting you a shirt at long last.

[AlexD744]

I would have prefered to not be an alliance captain and selected with the 16th pick (24th team). :D :D
Or be on the 5th alliance team with the middle team.
And another note: We have never been with any of these teams at CMP, only AGAINST most of them. Because Galileo has so many low-numbered teams compared to the other divisions, assuming veteran presence makes a difference, some teams will luck out with scheduling. I'd bet on it with only 7 matches to play in a field of 87.

Agreed! In a division like this the level of competition will be fair but with the number of "average" teams the qualifiers won't be extremely difficult (unless you're really unlucky). Eliminations will be drastically different and much harder.

[Joe Ross]

Similar to what I did last year (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=735425&postcount=165), I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=76618) for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Team Avg Seed Median Mode StDev Min Max #1 seed Top 8
67 6.0 4 1 5.7 1 28 42 153
71 7.5 4 1 8.3 1 50 46 138
1195 13.6 11 5 10.9 1 63 11 83
971 14.0 11 2 12.2 1 63 8 82
40 14.8 12 4 11.6 1 52 8 75
716 15.7 13 13 12.4 1 68 10 64
1717 15.9 12.5 9 12.9 1 74 6 70
111 17.6 13 3 14.2 1 61 8 67
207 17.7 14.5 4 14.4 1 80 8 61
987 18.9 15 10 13.7 1 63 7 55
45 19.6 16 11 15.4 1 70 5 57
25 20.4 17 13 14.0 1 66 2 43
1923 21.4 19 4 15.0 1 63 6 52
179 21.8 19 18 15.1 1 78 2 42
704 21.9 19 15 14.6 1 75 3 36
870 22.9 18.5 8 16.1 1 77 3 39
744 23.2 19 16 15.8 1 76 4 41
151 25.7 23 32 16.2 1 85 1 28
1318 25.8 21.5 14 16.5 1 81 2 22
2741 25.8 22 17 16.5 1 73 4 28
1332 27.0 25 10 16.7 1 76 4 30
2348 27.6 27.5 16 16.5 2 76 0 27
1742 28.7 26.5 31 18.3 1 79 1 30
56 29.3 28 14 18.1 1 79 1 24
115 29.7 28 12 16.0 2 68 0 17
2775 31.1 29.5 29 16.1 2 76 0 15
20 31.5 30 44 18.4 1 84 2 23
1208 32.0 29.5 22 18.3 2 84 0 16
1250 32.7 31 26 19.7 1 80 1 22
1477 33.1 31 36 19.1 3 86 0 19
973 35.4 32 14 19.8 2 85 0 13
47 38.6 37 46 18.1 5 82 0 5
708 38.7 36 34 20.1 1 81 1 12
2844 39.1 38.5 39 18.4 3 80 0 9
1745 39.3 37 36 18.4 4 85 0 9
418 39.9 40 27 18.8 1 81 1 6
359 41.0 40.5 45 18.6 2 82 0 6
1941 41.9 40 24 19.8 4 85 0 6
435 42.2 41.5 52 18.9 2 82 0 9
2729 42.4 42.5 34 19.3 3 87 0 2
226 42.5 44 48 18.3 6 85 0 4
555 43.4 44 65 20.2 1 86 1 8
1261 46.1 46 68 19.9 7 85 0 1
2936 46.3 47.5 53 19.1 2 87 0 5
1902 46.6 46 34 19.7 3 87 0 4
2230 47.4 49.5 50 18.4 8 86 0 1
281 48.6 51 69 19.6 4 87 0 3
494 49.1 51.5 70 20.0 1 84 1 5
279 49.4 51 50 19.1 6 87 0 3
1872 49.5 52 57 19.0 6 87 0 3
2214 50.2 51 53 18.2 1 86 1 1
967 50.3 50.5 68 19.5 2 87 0 2
1124 51.2 52 57 17.7 3 86 0 4
1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3
11 51.6 53.5 53 19.0 5 87 0 1
1540 53.0 54 43 17.9 4 87 0 3
65 53.0 55 54 18.3 6 86 0 3
168 53.8 55.5 52 19.6 6 87 0 1
3059 54.2 55 37 18.3 5 87 0 1
815 54.8 55 52 18.1 7 85 0 1
2638 55.9 56 54 19.3 6 87 0 1
303 56.0 57 57 18.0 8 86 0 2
1829 56.4 58 62 18.3 11 87 0 0
1551 56.6 59 69 17.4 8 87 0 1
932 57.5 59 72 18.3 11 87 0 0
1270 57.7 59 78 17.9 9 86 0 0
230 57.7 63 67 19.2 9 87 0 0
1662 59.1 62 73 18.3 7 87 0 1
461 60.0 64 78 19.1 8 87 0 1
2642 61.4 62 81 17.1 6 87 0 1
999 61.8 65 79 16.7 9 87 0 0
1646 62.3 66 66 17.3 11 87 0 0
1598 63.2 66.5 83 16.4 19 87 0 0
440 64.2 69 81 16.7 15 87 0 0
2910 65.0 71 82 16.7 19 86 0 0
1710 67.7 72 86 15.7 9 87 0 0
1601 69.5 73.5 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
1450 70.2 74 85 14.4 18 87 0 0
753 70.2 74 83 14.1 11 87 0 0
2579 70.6 75 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
2234 70.9 75 86 14.5 20 87 0 0
1772 71.9 75.5 85 13.8 11 87 0 0
1836 72.1 75 83 13.6 22 87 0 0
1058 72.5 76 84 13.6 10 87 0 0
1885 76.4 79 87 10.8 23 87 0 0
2550 77.8 82 87 10.4 40 87 0 0
203 80.2 84 87 8.2 44 87 0 0

[redbarron]

Similar to what I did last year (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=735425&postcount=165), I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=76618) for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Team Avg Seed Median Mode StDev Min Max #1 seed Top 8
67 6.0 4 1 5.7 1 28 42 153
71 7.5 4 1 8.3 1 50 46 138
1195 13.6 11 5 10.9 1 63 11 83
971 14.0 11 2 12.2 1 63 8 82
40 14.8 12 4 11.6 1 52 8 75
716 15.7 13 13 12.4 1 68 10 64
1717 15.9 12.5 9 12.9 1 74 6 70
111 17.6 13 3 14.2 1 61 8 67
207 17.7 14.5 4 14.4 1 80 8 61
987 18.9 15 10 13.7 1 63 7 55
45 19.6 16 11 15.4 1 70 5 57
25 20.4 17 13 14.0 1 66 2 43
1923 21.4 19 4 15.0 1 63 6 52
179 21.8 19 18 15.1 1 78 2 42
704 21.9 19 15 14.6 1 75 3 36
870 22.9 18.5 8 16.1 1 77 3 39
744 23.2 19 16 15.8 1 76 4 41
151 25.7 23 32 16.2 1 85 1 28
1318 25.8 21.5 14 16.5 1 81 2 22
2741 25.8 22 17 16.5 1 73 4 28
1332 27.0 25 10 16.7 1 76 4 30
2348 27.6 27.5 16 16.5 2 76 0 27
1742 28.7 26.5 31 18.3 1 79 1 30
56 29.3 28 14 18.1 1 79 1 24
115 29.7 28 12 16.0 2 68 0 17
2775 31.1 29.5 29 16.1 2 76 0 15
20 31.5 30 44 18.4 1 84 2 23
1208 32.0 29.5 22 18.3 2 84 0 16
1250 32.7 31 26 19.7 1 80 1 22
1477 33.1 31 36 19.1 3 86 0 19
973 35.4 32 14 19.8 2 85 0 13
47 38.6 37 46 18.1 5 82 0 5
708 38.7 36 34 20.1 1 81 1 12
2844 39.1 38.5 39 18.4 3 80 0 9
1745 39.3 37 36 18.4 4 85 0 9
418 39.9 40 27 18.8 1 81 1 6
359 41.0 40.5 45 18.6 2 82 0 6
1941 41.9 40 24 19.8 4 85 0 6
435 42.2 41.5 52 18.9 2 82 0 9
2729 42.4 42.5 34 19.3 3 87 0 2
226 42.5 44 48 18.3 6 85 0 4
555 43.4 44 65 20.2 1 86 1 8
1261 46.1 46 68 19.9 7 85 0 1
2936 46.3 47.5 53 19.1 2 87 0 5
1902 46.6 46 34 19.7 3 87 0 4
2230 47.4 49.5 50 18.4 8 86 0 1
281 48.6 51 69 19.6 4 87 0 3
494 49.1 51.5 70 20.0 1 84 1 5
279 49.4 51 50 19.1 6 87 0 3
1872 49.5 52 57 19.0 6 87 0 3
2214 50.2 51 53 18.2 1 86 1 1
967 50.3 50.5 68 19.5 2 87 0 2
1124 51.2 52 57 17.7 3 86 0 4
1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3
11 51.6 53.5 53 19.0 5 87 0 1
1540 53.0 54 43 17.9 4 87 0 3
65 53.0 55 54 18.3 6 86 0 3
168 53.8 55.5 52 19.6 6 87 0 1
3059 54.2 55 37 18.3 5 87 0 1
815 54.8 55 52 18.1 7 85 0 1
2638 55.9 56 54 19.3 6 87 0 1
303 56.0 57 57 18.0 8 86 0 2
1829 56.4 58 62 18.3 11 87 0 0
1551 56.6 59 69 17.4 8 87 0 1
932 57.5 59 72 18.3 11 87 0 0
1270 57.7 59 78 17.9 9 86 0 0
230 57.7 63 67 19.2 9 87 0 0
1662 59.1 62 73 18.3 7 87 0 1
461 60.0 64 78 19.1 8 87 0 1
2642 61.4 62 81 17.1 6 87 0 1
999 61.8 65 79 16.7 9 87 0 0
1646 62.3 66 66 17.3 11 87 0 0
1598 63.2 66.5 83 16.4 19 87 0 0
440 64.2 69 81 16.7 15 87 0 0
2910 65.0 71 82 16.7 19 86 0 0
1710 67.7 72 86 15.7 9 87 0 0
1601 69.5 73.5 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
1450 70.2 74 85 14.4 18 87 0 0
753 70.2 74 83 14.1 11 87 0 0
2579 70.6 75 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
2234 70.9 75 86 14.5 20 87 0 0
1772 71.9 75.5 85 13.8 11 87 0 0
1836 72.1 75 83 13.6 22 87 0 0
1058 72.5 76 84 13.6 10 87 0 0
1885 76.4 79 87 10.8 23 87 0 0
2550 77.8 82 87 10.4 40 87 0 0
203 80.2 84 87 8.2 44 87 0 0


I'm hoping to not be seated that far down ;) 1270 is hoping to turn a few heads. We have been working very hard on everything we could, we got the bot working at the end of the Buckeye so our averages are way down from where we are hoping to be. This is a stacked division this year, I haven't been on Galileo since 2003.......... Good luck to everyone!! I know I'm looking forward for some intense matches.:cool:

Team 1270
Red Dragons

Shooter 0-10' range
Shooter pivots 45 degrees left and right 90 degrees total
Hold 15-18 Orbit balls
We have been working on a scoring autonomous mode

[Brad Voracek]

Similar to what I did last year (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=735425&postcount=165), I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=76618) for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.
...


Joe, would you be so kind as to do this for Curie also? And I'm sure the other divisions wouldn't mind.

[Burmeister #279]

Similar to what I did last year (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=735425&postcount=165), I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=76618) for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Team Avg Seed Median Mode StDev Min Max #1 seed Top 8
67 6.0 4 1 5.7 1 28 42 153
71 7.5 4 1 8.3 1 50 46 138
1195 13.6 11 5 10.9 1 63 11 83
971 14.0 11 2 12.2 1 63 8 82
40 14.8 12 4 11.6 1 52 8 75
716 15.7 13 13 12.4 1 68 10 64
1717 15.9 12.5 9 12.9 1 74 6 70
111 17.6 13 3 14.2 1 61 8 67
207 17.7 14.5 4 14.4 1 80 8 61
987 18.9 15 10 13.7 1 63 7 55
45 19.6 16 11 15.4 1 70 5 57
25 20.4 17 13 14.0 1 66 2 43
1923 21.4 19 4 15.0 1 63 6 52
179 21.8 19 18 15.1 1 78 2 42
704 21.9 19 15 14.6 1 75 3 36
870 22.9 18.5 8 16.1 1 77 3 39
744 23.2 19 16 15.8 1 76 4 41
151 25.7 23 32 16.2 1 85 1 28
1318 25.8 21.5 14 16.5 1 81 2 22
2741 25.8 22 17 16.5 1 73 4 28
1332 27.0 25 10 16.7 1 76 4 30
2348 27.6 27.5 16 16.5 2 76 0 27
1742 28.7 26.5 31 18.3 1 79 1 30
56 29.3 28 14 18.1 1 79 1 24
115 29.7 28 12 16.0 2 68 0 17
2775 31.1 29.5 29 16.1 2 76 0 15
20 31.5 30 44 18.4 1 84 2 23
1208 32.0 29.5 22 18.3 2 84 0 16
1250 32.7 31 26 19.7 1 80 1 22
1477 33.1 31 36 19.1 3 86 0 19
973 35.4 32 14 19.8 2 85 0 13
47 38.6 37 46 18.1 5 82 0 5
708 38.7 36 34 20.1 1 81 1 12
2844 39.1 38.5 39 18.4 3 80 0 9
1745 39.3 37 36 18.4 4 85 0 9
418 39.9 40 27 18.8 1 81 1 6
359 41.0 40.5 45 18.6 2 82 0 6
1941 41.9 40 24 19.8 4 85 0 6
435 42.2 41.5 52 18.9 2 82 0 9
2729 42.4 42.5 34 19.3 3 87 0 2
226 42.5 44 48 18.3 6 85 0 4
555 43.4 44 65 20.2 1 86 1 8
1261 46.1 46 68 19.9 7 85 0 1
2936 46.3 47.5 53 19.1 2 87 0 5
1902 46.6 46 34 19.7 3 87 0 4
2230 47.4 49.5 50 18.4 8 86 0 1
281 48.6 51 69 19.6 4 87 0 3
494 49.1 51.5 70 20.0 1 84 1 5
279 49.4 51 50 19.1 6 87 0 3
1872 49.5 52 57 19.0 6 87 0 3
2214 50.2 51 53 18.2 1 86 1 1
967 50.3 50.5 68 19.5 2 87 0 2
1124 51.2 52 57 17.7 3 86 0 4
1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3
11 51.6 53.5 53 19.0 5 87 0 1
1540 53.0 54 43 17.9 4 87 0 3
65 53.0 55 54 18.3 6 86 0 3
168 53.8 55.5 52 19.6 6 87 0 1
3059 54.2 55 37 18.3 5 87 0 1
815 54.8 55 52 18.1 7 85 0 1
2638 55.9 56 54 19.3 6 87 0 1
303 56.0 57 57 18.0 8 86 0 2
1829 56.4 58 62 18.3 11 87 0 0
1551 56.6 59 69 17.4 8 87 0 1
932 57.5 59 72 18.3 11 87 0 0
1270 57.7 59 78 17.9 9 86 0 0
230 57.7 63 67 19.2 9 87 0 0
1662 59.1 62 73 18.3 7 87 0 1
461 60.0 64 78 19.1 8 87 0 1
2642 61.4 62 81 17.1 6 87 0 1
999 61.8 65 79 16.7 9 87 0 0
1646 62.3 66 66 17.3 11 87 0 0
1598 63.2 66.5 83 16.4 19 87 0 0
440 64.2 69 81 16.7 15 87 0 0
2910 65.0 71 82 16.7 19 86 0 0
1710 67.7 72 86 15.7 9 87 0 0
1601 69.5 73.5 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
1450 70.2 74 85 14.4 18 87 0 0
753 70.2 74 83 14.1 11 87 0 0
2579 70.6 75 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
2234 70.9 75 86 14.5 20 87 0 0
1772 71.9 75.5 85 13.8 11 87 0 0
1836 72.1 75 83 13.6 22 87 0 0
1058 72.5 76 84 13.6 10 87 0 0
1885 76.4 79 87 10.8 23 87 0 0
2550 77.8 82 87 10.4 40 87 0 0
203 80.2 84 87 8.2 44 87 0 0


I think we're gonna sneak up on you guys =) GOOD LUCK!!
GALI-

[engunneer]

1318 25.8 21.5 14 16.5 1 81 2 22

(Re 1->81) So basically, we could be anywhere. Looking forward to it!

Short description:
IRS Team 1318
Power Dumper, serpentine ball path
OR 7-0-0 in Quals, 1st Seed, Champions
WA 8th Overall Selection - Semifinalist, 13th seed

We scored in autonomous at least 3 times, and have lined up enough to score in the first 5 seconds at least 3 other times.

Please describe your robot. :)

-LEO

[David Sherman]

It has already been said but wow this is going to be an amazing field! Can't wait! To be honest I think this division is so deep with quality that making predictions of elimination outcomes is just going to go out the window. I suspect epic matches, and predict amazing plays.

[Akash Rastogi]

With so many good teams playing during qualifications, you guys think that this year especially, that there's a chance for a mediocre robot who got paired up with great partners each match to be ranked #1? I don't know if its happened before at the Championship, I know it happens at regionals, but how bout at the big show?

[AlexD744]

With so many good teams playing during qualifications, you guys think that this year especially, that there's a chance for a mediocre robot who got paired up with great partners each match to be ranked #1? I don't know if its happened before at the Championship, I know it happens at regionals, but how bout at the big show?

I'd say it's possible, however, I've never been to a championship before (I'm a freshman). But I bet it could happen. I doubt it would bring them to #1 but i can imagine the top 8. It's still unlikely.

[Akash Rastogi]

I'd say it's possible, however, I've never been to a championship before (I'm a freshman). But I bet it could happen. I doubt it would bring them to #1 but i can imagine the top 8. It's still unlikely.

Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?

[XaulZan11]

Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?

It has happened before. I know some will say 1732 in 2007 that got lucky and seeded #1 on Curie. One would be crazy to say we were on the same level of 1114 and 330, but I feel we were one of the better tube scorers and with only seven qualfication matches and an easier schedule, a lot can happen. I'm not sure its a good idea to call out various teams and say their achievements were lucky, though. But yeah, it has happened before a couple of times.

[Magnechu]

Our robot:
Team RICE 870
Power Dumper, conveyor belt to hopper
Holds 12 balls comfortably, 16 or so max
Us and 102 were by far the best robots at Long Island, and we seeded 1 and 3 accordingly, losing in semi finals together to unfortunate circumstances

It's cool to see us (fairly) far up in that rankings sheet! It'd be awesome just to make eliminations.

[prettycolors91]

Similar to what I did last year (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=735425&postcount=165), I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=76618) for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Team Avg Seed Median Mode StDev Min Max #1 seed Top 8
67 6.0 4 1 5.7 1 28 42 153
71 7.5 4 1 8.3 1 50 46 138
1195 13.6 11 5 10.9 1 63 11 83
971 14.0 11 2 12.2 1 63 8 82
40 14.8 12 4 11.6 1 52 8 75
716 15.7 13 13 12.4 1 68 10 64
1717 15.9 12.5 9 12.9 1 74 6 70
111 17.6 13 3 14.2 1 61 8 67
207 17.7 14.5 4 14.4 1 80 8 61
987 18.9 15 10 13.7 1 63 7 55
45 19.6 16 11 15.4 1 70 5 57
25 20.4 17 13 14.0 1 66 2 43
1923 21.4 19 4 15.0 1 63 6 52
179 21.8 19 18 15.1 1 78 2 42
704 21.9 19 15 14.6 1 75 3 36
870 22.9 18.5 8 16.1 1 77 3 39
744 23.2 19 16 15.8 1 76 4 41
151 25.7 23 32 16.2 1 85 1 28
1318 25.8 21.5 14 16.5 1 81 2 22
2741 25.8 22 17 16.5 1 73 4 28
1332 27.0 25 10 16.7 1 76 4 30
2348 27.6 27.5 16 16.5 2 76 0 27
1742 28.7 26.5 31 18.3 1 79 1 30
56 29.3 28 14 18.1 1 79 1 24
115 29.7 28 12 16.0 2 68 0 17
2775 31.1 29.5 29 16.1 2 76 0 15
20 31.5 30 44 18.4 1 84 2 23
1208 32.0 29.5 22 18.3 2 84 0 16
1250 32.7 31 26 19.7 1 80 1 22
1477 33.1 31 36 19.1 3 86 0 19
973 35.4 32 14 19.8 2 85 0 13
47 38.6 37 46 18.1 5 82 0 5
708 38.7 36 34 20.1 1 81 1 12
2844 39.1 38.5 39 18.4 3 80 0 9
1745 39.3 37 36 18.4 4 85 0 9
418 39.9 40 27 18.8 1 81 1 6
359 41.0 40.5 45 18.6 2 82 0 6
1941 41.9 40 24 19.8 4 85 0 6
435 42.2 41.5 52 18.9 2 82 0 9
2729 42.4 42.5 34 19.3 3 87 0 2
226 42.5 44 48 18.3 6 85 0 4
555 43.4 44 65 20.2 1 86 1 8
1261 46.1 46 68 19.9 7 85 0 1
2936 46.3 47.5 53 19.1 2 87 0 5
1902 46.6 46 34 19.7 3 87 0 4
2230 47.4 49.5 50 18.4 8 86 0 1
281 48.6 51 69 19.6 4 87 0 3
494 49.1 51.5 70 20.0 1 84 1 5
279 49.4 51 50 19.1 6 87 0 3
1872 49.5 52 57 19.0 6 87 0 3
2214 50.2 51 53 18.2 1 86 1 1
967 50.3 50.5 68 19.5 2 87 0 2
1124 51.2 52 57 17.7 3 86 0 4
1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3
11 51.6 53.5 53 19.0 5 87 0 1
1540 53.0 54 43 17.9 4 87 0 3
65 53.0 55 54 18.3 6 86 0 3
168 53.8 55.5 52 19.6 6 87 0 1
3059 54.2 55 37 18.3 5 87 0 1
815 54.8 55 52 18.1 7 85 0 1
2638 55.9 56 54 19.3 6 87 0 1
303 56.0 57 57 18.0 8 86 0 2
1829 56.4 58 62 18.3 11 87 0 0
1551 56.6 59 69 17.4 8 87 0 1
932 57.5 59 72 18.3 11 87 0 0
1270 57.7 59 78 17.9 9 86 0 0
230 57.7 63 67 19.2 9 87 0 0
1662 59.1 62 73 18.3 7 87 0 1
461 60.0 64 78 19.1 8 87 0 1
2642 61.4 62 81 17.1 6 87 0 1
999 61.8 65 79 16.7 9 87 0 0
1646 62.3 66 66 17.3 11 87 0 0
1598 63.2 66.5 83 16.4 19 87 0 0
440 64.2 69 81 16.7 15 87 0 0
2910 65.0 71 82 16.7 19 86 0 0
1710 67.7 72 86 15.7 9 87 0 0
1601 69.5 73.5 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
1450 70.2 74 85 14.4 18 87 0 0
753 70.2 74 83 14.1 11 87 0 0
2579 70.6 75 81 14.8 12 87 0 0
2234 70.9 75 86 14.5 20 87 0 0
1772 71.9 75.5 85 13.8 11 87 0 0
1836 72.1 75 83 13.6 22 87 0 0
1058 72.5 76 84 13.6 10 87 0 0
1885 76.4 79 87 10.8 23 87 0 0
2550 77.8 82 87 10.4 40 87 0 0
203 80.2 84 87 8.2 44 87 0 0



I must say, I am not opposed to these predictions :p

[jtdowney]

To quote Han Solo in Empire Strikes Back: "Never tell me the odds!" But thanks Joe this is a very interesting analysis.

[ttldomination]

This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.

[smurfgirl]

This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.

I've seen this happen before at regionals and the Championship, but not very often. If they really lucked out by seeding where they did, usually their alliance does not go very far, because often the best they can have on their alliance is one good team total(their first pick), because by the time they go again on the serpentine all the other top-notch bots have already been selected. Here, while the division is deep enough that they could still have two good teams on their alliance, there is also the potential for there be some superalliances of three great robots. So again, it isn't that likely for one "lucky" team to have a huge net effect on the outcome of the field.

On another note, the Galileo thread has the most posts in it out of the four divisions- is this a sign that it will be the most spirited field at the Championship?

[ErikEdhlund]

Amen to that, now lets not forget about the ever so colorful WildStang. We still have a few tricks up our sleeves.

[DonRotolo]

1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3
(whew) at least we're unlikely to end up dead last, with our max at 86 out of 87.
is this a sign that it will be the most spirited field at the Championship?
Absolutely! EVERYone knows that Galileo is the best division, and that's why they put so many of the very best teams there. Just that, like Wayne said, there's gonna be a lot of blood from all the thrashing....

Sad to say, while 1676 will be there in force, I won't.:mad: Work beckons. Sorry to be missing it.

Don

[ttldomination]

Galileo is easily the best spirited. I wouldn't say that it's because we're talking the most here, I just believe that Galileo got the most avid Chief Delphi users. :D.

[prettycolors91]

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!! :D

[AlexD744]

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!! :D

I guess the pride in the sucess of your team helps, but then again you're always successful. Or maybe the cheering brought success, that means in order to beat 67 you have to take down their cheering section (graciously of course), a whole new strategy of game play.

[jholman]

Well it's nice to to know that we'll probably finish around 79th. But hey there's a .5% chance at finishing at #11! Who knows though I've seen (and experiaced) wiered things at FIRST competitions.

Team 753 robot description:
Holds 5 balls comfortably and up to 7 total.
Consistaly collects balls.
Quick one ball dumper-cannon.
Good defense.

Good Luck everyone!

[Nick Orlando]

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!! :D

Yes I have to agree with Megan on this one. Our team has surprised me as well, normally our team is quite reserved because of all the amazing scouting our teams does. I think our repeated success this year has been a catalyst for such a change. I feel the great cheering has greatly impacted our drive team and kept morals up even when it seemed we would lose, which helped us turn around and win :D. We have some new cheers that have helped us compete with the great teams like rush(27), killer bees(33) and the thunderchickens(217). I hope we can keep it all up in Atlanta :D

[Nuttyman54]

Team 971 robot specs:

Wide 6wd, 1 CIM per side, traction control via follower wheels
Open hopper with ground collection, ~20 ball capacity
Dumper, 2 balls wide, fast and high accuracy

Video available here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4237263873372507793&ei=5E7hSajcL4qIqwKlh8DpAw&q=971+silicon+valley), high quality download here (http://users.wpi.edu/~esm/SVR_09.avi).

[BandChick]

For anyone interested I posted some fun signature userbars over here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=849348#post849348

Support Galileo, or, if you can't pick, there's even one for every division!

[Spiffizzle]

Sad to say, while 1676 will be there in force, I won't.:mad: Work beckons. Sorry to be missing it.

Don

:( Don! I am so upset to hear you won't be in Atlanta!
Alas, the show must go on. You teams better not give any funny business on the field because Paul and I will be your scorekeepers for GALILEO and penalties give us more to do. :p Also, please check all connections on your robots!

Personally, I want to see good play and high energy! Clearly, GALILEO is the best field this year but I want everyone to know it! :D Can't wait to start!

[Burmeister #279]

Forgot the robot specs:

279
Powerful ground pickup conveyor
pneumatic elevator/hopper
~7 balls w/ 9 being dangerous
Close-up shooter

new and improved, dynamic autonomous with multiple directions/speeds
guarenteed to score within 10 seconds of teleoperated with 6/7 balls scored everytime.

I took a look at 971's video...wow. must find HOT's video/pics. [link?]

[waialua359]

I didnt even realize 971 was in this division.
The robot is awesome and will do some damage in this competition.
We had a good match together at SVR in a very heated match and look forward to teaming up again. :D

[Nick Orlando]

I took a look at 971's video...wow. must find HOT's video/pics. [link?]

Videos are on youtube... search FRC67 (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=FRC67&aq=f)

[JABot67]

must find HOT's video/pics. [link?]

Videos are on youtube... search FRC67 (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=FRC67&aq=f)

Pictures of our robot can be found here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/tags/frc67

Team 245's Michigan State Championship videos (http://www.adambots.com/wiki/2009_Michigan_State_Championship_Video_Archive) don't seem to be on TBA yet, but you can see us in Quarterfinals 1, Semifinals 1, and the Finals. If you try to watch the videos in the browser, they will take forever to buffer, so right click and Save As to download to your computer.

The camera at MSC sure liked to follow us a lot :D

Team 67 Robot Specs:

Floor Loaded with a wide collection swath
Can hold around 16 balls
Double-wide accurate powered "spitter"
Wide 6wd with traction control
We go for human floor loading in autonomous, but also have many other auton programs up our sleeve...

[Burmeister #279]

thanks for the link but i couldn't actually see which one was your robot in the matches. oh well.

[Josh Murphy]

thanks for the link but i couldn't actually see which one was your robot in the matches. oh well.

Here is a picture, hope this helps out. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/33435

[Matt704]

I wish NASA would archive the Lone Star Regional. Y'all should check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtp2s5F9uAc This was the Dallas regional we greatly improved our robot for the lone star regional.:)

[Akash Rastogi]

I'm excited as hell about this year for Atlanta. My dream alliance is 67, 71 (or 111) and us as a third partner.

GALI-!

[smurfgirl]

A lot of people want to be that third partner, I'm sure.
I'm really looking forward to the webcasts!

-LEO!

[Nica F.]

On the Galileo prediction;


Galileo is a feast of famine division, with a very loaded top tier, but the weakest bottom of the field as well. That will result in many top machines having a loss of two due to bad qualification pairings, as well as open the door for a chance at a new high score. Even more than any other division, Galileo will be won during alliance selections.

I actually have to agree with Looking Forward in a sense that pairings are going to be super crucial. I myself put together an excel sheet and noticed that ~25 teams have a higher match loss total than match win total and didn't make it into eliminations in at least one event.

But at the same time, I believe that Galileo won't be won during alliance selections and I won't be surprised if there are upsets in Eliminations. I think its going to be very very intense. I am predicting a lot of dark horses in our division and a lot of break ups in alliance pairing....

ATL in 2 days guys, GET EXCITED!

[smurfgirl]

But at the same time, I believe that Galileo won't be won during alliance selections and I won't be surprised if there are upsets in Eliminations. I think its going to be very very intense. I am predicting a lot of dark horses in our division and a lot of break ups in alliance pairing....

All I'm sure of is that everything on Galileo will be fun to watch, especially the eliminations!

[Legator91]

Its Going to be crazy in Galileo this year. I can't wait.

Leaving for Atlanta in 10 hours :)

[goodsky]

t - 12 hours and counting till bacon leaves from Florida!

I'm really excited! Anyway it goes this should be amazing! I can't wait to see everybody in just a day or so!

GALI-

[Akash Rastogi]

Leaving for the airport in 12 hours. =) Hope to see many of you at the Omni.:)

[sundancekid92]

HEy Team 11 Team 56 will be at the Omni as well. We'll be glad to see you guys .too bad we couldn't be an alliance in PHilly. Hope we can partner up in a match you guys have a great robot.


check 56 out at http://www.team56.com/gallery.html


LEO

[Akash Rastogi]

HEy Team 11 Team 56 will be at the Omni as well. We'll be glad to see you guys .too bad we couldn't be an alliance in PHilly. Hope we can partner up in a match you guys have a great robot.


check 56 out at http://www.team56.com/gallery.html


LEO

Thanks a lot man! You guys will be tough competition in Galileo. Hopefully we can get an NJ alliance going this year haha. Us, 25 and 56 - what awesome pit neighbors! Cya Thursday. :D

[smurfgirl]

Akash- my team is staying in the omni as well. Maybe you can track one of them down to give you a long-overdue 1124 shirt. :) (If not I will find some other way to get you one, either an offseason or I will ship you one.)

[DarkFlame145]

Good luck to everyone!!!! Have fun and lets make this one of the most exciting Champs ever.

[AlexD744]

On the Galileo prediction;



I actually have to agree with Looking Forward in a sense that pairings are going to be super crucial. I myself put together an excel sheet and noticed that ~25 teams have a higher match loss total than match win total and didn't make it into eliminations in at least one event.

But at the same time, I believe that Galileo won't be won during alliance selections and I won't be surprised if there are upsets in Eliminations. I think its going to be very very intense. I am predicting a lot of dark horses in our division and a lot of break ups in alliance pairing....

ATL in 2 days guys, GET EXCITED!

I completely agree with this, in elimination pairing many teams that rank higher than 67 and 71 and even 111 will be looking to split them up in any way that they can. And no I don't think any of those three will rank first, I think the #1 seed could go to anyone who had a good line of matches, there will be a lot of qualifyers where teams that have been amazing lose due to a no show partner. And because of the upsets that will most likely happen, eliminations are going to be extremely close and almost anyones game. But then again 67, 71 or 111 could seed 1st and make a dream team alliance. But then again, there are so many other alliances that could be formed in this division that could eliminate 67/71 alliance, just look at 1114 and 71 at midwest. And this feild will be just about as deep in eliminations dues to the heavy top tier.

And 744 will begin flying in 20 hours, give or take.

[BT987]

987 is taking off from Las Vegas in 5 hours!!!!

see you guys there:)

[dodar]

Wow, leaving arouund 3:30 lol
how long is the flight?

[Doug Leppard]

Jon Catt made this great video of our team.

http://vimeo.com/4160588

[Dan Richardson]

GALI

Sorry I had too.. I can't wait to get there and cheer everyone on Saturday. I'm really looking forward to some tough competition and see what strategies win out on Saturday.

Good Luck Everyone! And Safe Journeys!

[Greg Needel]

LEO!!!!


We can't wait to see everyone. Good luck, and don't forget to stop by and say HI!

[swamp_child]

GALI-

[Jetweb]

LEO

I wish our team left earlier like everyone else. We dont leave until 8:30 tonight. :(

[swamp_child]

MADAM

[JDeCola]

first time there this is going to be lots of fun
team 1332 lets play
GO Swift!! :):)

[Joe Ross]

I used the average opr and the actual match schedules to predict each match and determine the seeding.

Match Red 1 Red 2 Red 3 Blue 1 Blue 2 Blue 3 R Score B Score
1 1195 2936 973 1710 207 1208 86 73
2 2579 1902 1261 2550 1941 971 45 65
3 203 1598 3059 230 1332 168 24 63
4 71 1477 56 281 999 1742 110 60
5 359 1745 870 2910 2642 179 82 57
6 987 11 716 1829 2234 1836 92 24
7 1270 1058 2775 461 1646 279 48 42
8 1662 753 2844 1318 1450 708 44 64
9 47 1250 1601 440 2348 2214 58 61
10 40 1551 111 2741 418 2638 93 69
11 67 1676 435 1124 932 1885 90 33
12 303 1717 226 1540 494 115 76 67
13 967 744 815 20 1772 2230 66 54
14 555 65 45 151 1923 25 74 101
15 2729 168 1195 704 2579 359 80 65
16 999 2910 1598 1662 207 2214 31 69
17 47 2638 2844 230 1745 56 61 68
18 279 281 973 2642 1551 1836 63 31
19 111 1208 1261 435 303 1270 87 50
20 418 2550 179 440 20 1318 59 72
21 555 3059 753 67 815 1829 45 79
22 1450 1601 704 226 65 1742 47 69
23 716 151 2775 1902 203 1676 99 36
24 25 461 1717 2230 2348 987 88 88
25 932 708 2936 1941 45 1772 58 64
26 2741 1124 1332 967 870 971 81 94
27 1710 40 744 1250 1646 1540 82 58
28 2729 1923 494 11 1477 1885 78 48
29 1058 115 815 2234 71 359 49 81
30 1208 704 2910 2550 2844 1551 73 36
31 56 179 2230 1601 2775 1261 86 55
32 1772 1676 987 1662 2642 230 59 40
33 2638 971 3059 2936 1836 151 72 57
34 1270 226 168 1941 999 1318 53 67
35 1332 1710 440 753 716 279 51 62
36 1058 1195 1717 870 1250 11 86 80
37 932 2741 1540 65 1477 47 62 69
38 494 435 1829 71 40 1902 56 111
39 2579 20 2234 1923 1742 1598 39 74
40 461 967 708 555 2214 2729 56 63
41 25 303 1745 1885 973 744 72 61
42 2348 1450 1646 45 67 111 50 125
43 115 203 207 1124 281 418 63 61
44 1540 279 971 1195 1318 815 78 88
45 2910 230 1477 1261 1250 1836 52 53
46 1676 1941 1598 1829 56 65 51 62
47 716 168 967 1601 1717 71 73 97
48 973 226 2844 2579 435 2214 71 46
49 555 1551 1742 11 303 2936 64 52
50 25 2729 179 1646 3059 1662 93 42
51 440 744 2234 111 2775 1124 48 86
52 753 281 1745 1208 2741 1058 49 64
53 870 2230 1923 203 932 2638 88 25
54 1710 1885 2642 2550 115 2348 23 61
55 67 1332 40 207 1772 704 122 76
56 151 359 418 708 1270 987 81 75
57 461 47 999 494 20 45 48 85
58 1450 1598 279 1902 25 967 34 73
59 1742 1646 230 435 2741 716 56 90
60 440 281 65 2936 870 2844 46 77
61 1836 2550 555 2230 1540 1676 26 56
62 226 71 971 1745 111 2729 115 85
63 1941 2214 753 203 1885 359 49 25
64 1124 1208 494 987 179 2638 66 85
65 2579 1477 1450 3059 1710 1058 39 30
66 1829 207 1250 2775 303 1923 78 78
67 168 2348 1772 2234 151 1261 54 57
68 999 708 67 115 1551 744 86 75
69 461 1318 1902 1601 2642 1332 66 50
70 11 704 815 47 973 418 68 74
71 20 1270 932 40 2910 1717 56 90
72 1662 56 967 45 1195 226 63 98
73 494 111 716 359 207 2550 96 61
74 2214 1208 870 25 1676 71 81 104
75 303 2234 999 971 1710 179 30 86
76 440 1551 435 168 461 1450 46 36
77 2642 151 1058 2729 47 1941 49 70
78 2230 230 1885 279 708 40 36 83
79 1646 115 2910 56 1772 1923 51 70
80 1332 932 1250 2844 815 1742 73 68
81 2741 45 1902 973 987 3059 87 78
82 2638 281 1540 1601 1829 2579 51 25
83 20 1662 65 67 11 203 59 66
84 2936 2775 1477 1717 418 753 77 71
85 1318 744 1261 1598 704 555 86 66
86 2348 1836 1124 1270 1195 1745 55 77
87 1208 971 2642 1646 2230 440 82 42
88 1742 25 111 2910 47 1710 104 43
89 207 1551 987 1540 56 1058 86 54
90 2729 65 2550 973 999 1332 40 69
91 1923 179 2214 815 168 2936 88 52
92 1601 279 1941 435 115 3059 47 68
93 11 281 151 932 967 230 69 45
94 45 71 1250 753 1124 1598 115 35
95 708 1717 1676 704 2234 1745 83 63
96 418 1836 1772 303 2844 1902 34 57
97 359 67 1261 2638 226 461 95 49
98 2348 2579 2741 494 2775 1318 68 82
99 1885 716 1195 555 1450 20 80 56
100 1829 1662 870 744 1477 1270 62 75
101 203 2550 56 40 1208 1601 29 74

Rank Team Wins Losses Ties Matches QP RS MP
1 1195 7 0 0 7 14 67.14 98
2 71 7 0 0 7 14 62.71 115
3 1318 7 0 0 7 14 59.71 88
4 67 7 0 0 7 14 55.29 125
5 40 7 0 0 7 14 54.29 122
6 25 6 0 1 7 13 60.43 104
7 1923 6 0 1 7 13 52.43 101
8 971 6 1 0 7 12 59.71 115
9 111 6 1 0 7 12 58 125
10 45 6 1 0 7 12 58 125
11 716 6 1 0 7 12 51 99
12 1717 5 1 1 7 11 71.14 97
13 2775 5 1 1 7 11 56.86 99
14 226 5 2 0 7 10 58.57 115
15 973 5 2 0 7 10 56.71 86
16 151 5 2 0 7 10 55.71 101
17 1477 5 2 0 7 10 55 110
18 2729 5 2 0 7 10 55 93
19 1261 5 2 0 7 10 53 95
20 179 5 2 0 7 10 51.57 93
21 2214 5 2 0 7 10 49.86 88
22 1902 5 2 0 7 10 47.57 111
23 1676 5 2 0 7 10 47.14 104
24 1941 5 2 0 7 10 46.86 70
25 987 4 2 1 7 9 60.71 92
26 870 4 3 0 7 8 61.71 94
27 1745 4 3 0 7 8 61.57 85
28 744 4 3 0 7 8 60.57 86
29 494 4 3 0 7 8 59.14 96
30 708 4 3 0 7 8 58.14 86
31 1332 4 3 0 7 8 55.71 122
32 1208 4 3 0 7 8 55.71 87
33 359 4 3 0 7 8 54.43 95
34 56 4 3 0 7 8 52.71 110
35 1742 4 3 0 7 8 52.14 104
36 1551 4 3 0 7 8 50.43 93
37 435 4 3 0 7 8 46.29 90
38 207 3 3 1 7 7 62 86
39 1250 3 3 1 7 7 61.29 115
40 303 3 3 1 7 7 53.14 78
41 2230 3 3 1 7 7 46.57 88
42 2741 3 4 0 7 6 66.14 90
43 815 3 4 0 7 6 59.14 88
44 2936 3 4 0 7 6 58.43 86
45 967 3 4 0 7 6 58 94
46 1270 3 4 0 7 6 56.14 77
47 47 3 4 0 7 6 55.57 74
48 65 3 4 0 7 6 54.14 74
49 11 3 4 0 7 6 53.71 92
50 115 3 4 0 7 6 53.29 75
51 1772 3 4 0 7 6 52.43 76
52 1058 3 4 0 7 6 50.43 86
53 2638 3 4 0 7 6 50.29 85
54 440 3 4 0 7 6 48.57 72
55 999 3 4 0 7 6 48.14 86
56 2844 3 4 0 7 6 47.86 77
57 279 3 4 0 7 6 45.57 83
58 281 3 4 0 7 6 45.29 69
59 2348 2 4 1 7 5 56.57 88
60 1829 2 4 1 7 5 48.71 79
61 418 2 5 0 7 4 62.43 81
62 555 2 5 0 7 4 53.57 74
63 20 2 5 0 7 4 53 85
64 1540 2 5 0 7 4 52.86 78
65 168 2 5 0 7 4 51 80
66 1601 2 5 0 7 4 47 97
67 2910 2 5 0 7 4 46.57 90
68 3059 2 5 0 7 4 46.14 78
69 753 2 5 0 7 4 45.71 71
70 230 2 5 0 7 4 44.86 68
71 1710 2 5 0 7 4 44 86
72 2234 2 5 0 7 4 43.86 81
73 1450 2 5 0 7 4 42.43 64
74 2550 2 5 0 7 4 40.43 65
75 203 2 5 0 7 4 37 66
76 461 1 5 1 7 3 52.71 88
77 704 1 6 0 7 2 60.14 76
78 1124 1 6 0 7 2 54.14 86
79 932 1 6 0 7 2 49.57 73
80 1662 1 6 0 7 2 48.71 69
81 2579 1 6 0 7 2 45.43 68
82 2642 1 6 0 7 2 41.71 82
83 1885 1 6 0 7 2 40.29 80
84 1598 1 6 0 7 2 40 74
85 1836 1 6 0 7 2 39.86 57
86 1646 0 7 0 7 0 48.71 58

If you don't like the way you seeded in the simulation, don't worry, OPR hasn't proven to be much more effective at predicting matches then flipping a coin.

[Dan Richardson]

wow, 7 undefeated teams ( 2 with ties ) that will be interesting.

Thanks for running this simulation Galileo will be fun, the match schedule will make it even more exciting!

[DonRotolo]

:D Hopefully we can get an NJ alliance going this year haha. Us, 25 and 56 - what awesome pit neighbors! <snif> I guess we just got too many numbers in our team number. :rolleyes:
I used the average opr and the actual match schedules to predict each match and determine the seeding.
Very nice Joe, even if it's about as real as a wooden nickel, it is still COOL.

Sorry to be missing it, but will be consuming work's bandwidth tomorrow...

[sundancekid92]

Playing with any other Nj team would be awesome.Go galileo Go East. Go New Jersey.W00t


Gali-

[DarkFlame145]

Is it just me or is the music............. not very fitting? Too slow and mellow.

[IKE]

If Joe's predictions are accurate, the selection process for Galileo could be legendary....

[ttldomination]

Exploding bacon, we owe you one.

In match 2, we were with exploding bacon and against 971. Immediately two robotics, one on either alliance, had issues and would not work and were scored upon. Our robot scored on the disabled robot and then moved to push it out of the way so that we could pick up an emtpy cell.

1902 did an AMAZING job scrambling from 971 and even scored a few times, and then when we got free, we proceeded to help 1902 take down 971. 971 did catch up to us once but we escaped with minimal damage.

It was among the best match of the day for us.

[nlknauss]

Good luck during the last day tomorrow everyone! My students have really enjoyed working with and meeting all of you over the past two days. Saturday will definitely be an awesome day.

Bravo to all! Let us know if you need anything.

[kirtar]

Argh first alternate again. This is the same position we got put in at Buckeye.

[Beth Sweet]

Argh first alternate again. This is the same position we got put in at Buckeye.

Well, the good thing is, HOT seems to have grabbed the first alternate at least once, I think twice this season! You might get to see some field time!

[smurfgirl]

Good luck to all alliances! Some of them look beastly... we'll be in for some exciting elims. (:

[kirtar]

Well, the good thing is, HOT seems to have grabbed the first alternate at least once, I think twice this season! You might get to see some field time!
Maybe so but in this case Wildstang makes the final decision since they're the alliance captain.

[Steven Sigley]

1717 2775 870 vs. 111 67 971

Talk about some great finals......

[sgreco]

Congrats to teams 111, 67 and 971.

That was awesome, second straight Galileo victory.

[Akash Rastogi]

WildStang, HOT, and Spartan Robotics, congratulations on those insanely impressive matches both in Galileo and on Einstein. It is the first time I've seen the game played with such stacked alliances. Galileo was so packed with good teams that friggin 25 was second to last pick!! I mean, that never happens! 971 last pick??!!?!?! Crazy division.

We were honored to watch and cheer on our NJ friends 56, 25, and 1923. Just too bad we couldn't join you down on the field in eliminations:( , but we had a good 5-2-0 and had fun playing with the teams we look up to most. See you all next year.

[Magnechu]

Awesome, awesome time. We couldn't have picked better alliance partners than 1717 and 2775. We gave the dream team a definite run for their money. Don't know how many people saw it, but with a few seconds left in the 2nd match, our human player threw a Super Cell and rolled over at least 4 prongs before dropping out. That would have put us 1 point behind still, but it would have been really cool. :P

We did just as good, if not better, than the Newton and Curie Champions did vs them, and we are extremely proud of that. I feel that in any other division our alliance could have made it to Einstein, but so it goes!

Congratulations 111, 67, and 971!

[Doug Leppard]

Congratulations 111, 67, and 971!

The last 3 out of 4 years we have been beaten by the World Champs, so it was a privilege to once again loose to the champs, you are a great alliance.

Thank you 40 and 1332 for choosing us.

[Kingofl337]

Team 40 would like to thank 1902 for exceptional defense and 1332 for outstanding offense.

Congratulations 111, 67, and 971

[Matt704]

Great job to everyone involved and congratulations to 111, 67, and 971 y'all deserved the win(:

[Wayne C.]

Ditto to the below-

the #1 alliance WAS the one to beat- 111 and 67 especially really had the right design this year!! Congratulations.

Our team (25) fought hard and we had a great time competing. Galileo was really stacked and every round was a challenge- That's the way it should be.

Now consider this- suppose you played this game on carpet with LAST years track with everyone going counterclockwise at high speed. Hmmmm....

:cool: WC

[nlknauss]

Great job 111, 67 and 971. It was a lot of fun watching you on Einstein.

[Kyle Love]

I have a couple thoughts.

A huge congrats to 111, 67 and 971, you guys performed great all competition long and were truly the best alliance there.

Second, maybe not so cheerful comment.
For teams who competed on Galileo, did you notice that the blue alliance station seemed to lose communication throughout the weekend? At first I thought "oh we must have something loose", but after hearing of it happening to team after team, I raised an eyebrow. Did any of you also notice this?

[ErikEdhlund]

I just wanted to thank every team on behalf of WildStang for making this division as thrilling and intense as it was. I couldn't have been happier to have seen the teams I did and the opportunities we had to be with several great teams. I hope to see many of you guys in the future. Great Job everyone!

[Libby K]

Congrats to 67, 111, and 971. Y'all played really well.

708 & 45, you were great alliance partners. For a team that had never made elims before 2009, being selected at all three of our events this season was a dream come true. Thanks for being a part of that.

I miss the Championship already! :)

[ezygmont708]

Congrats to 67, 111, and 971. Y'all played really well.

708 & 45, you were great alliance partners. For a team that had never made elims before 2009, being selected at all three of our events this season was a dream come true. Thanks for being a part of that.

I miss the Championship already! :)

Libby,

It was honor to compete with both 1923 and 45. You were both great teams, and unfortunately we couldn't take it any farther.

Thanks for the great alliance, and congrats to 11, 67, and 971!!!

Side Note:
As this was my first experience traveling to Atlanta, I am thoroughly enthusiastic for next year!!! 708 will be back!!!

[Akash Rastogi]

Thanks for the great alliance, and congrats to 11, 67, and 971!!!


This just made me Lol. XD If we were that partner....I don't think that alliance would've made it past QFs lol.

anyone have close up pics of 973's Raptor, that thing was such a beast, I only got distanced fuzzy shots of it in action. Thanks.

[Ryan Dognaux]

I just wanted to say how amazingly competitive and just plain BEASTLY this division was. You know when you have teams like 179, 20, 11, 461, etc. being passed up in the draft that there are just so many quality teams to choose from. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Atlanta is an entirely different game. Everyone should be extremely proud to say they played in the division that won it all in 2009.

I think one of the highlights for us was going out and playing in qualification match 42 against 45, 67, and 111. Just being in that match made our day.

Thanks to all the teams we talked to and played with. If any of you who swung by our pit and saw our sweet t-shirts are interested in purchasing one, head on over to the PG Store at http://pg1646.spreadshirt.com

Again, thanks and congratulations to all the teams from Galileo.

[Magnechu]

Not sure if you guys realize how amazing Galileo was-both the GM Industrial Award AND the Motorola Quality Award were won by Galileo teams (67 and 1717 respectively) as well as the World Champions coming from Galileo. Amazing guys, simply amazing.

[JaneYoung]

I would like to extend a heartfelt congratulations to FRC Team 2775, lead through a terrific competition experience by Greg Needel. There are moments in our personal histories with FIRST that are stand-outs for us. Watching 2775 was a stand-out moment for me, knowing that so many teams have been inspired by these rookies and how some helped them along the road to Championship. Also knowing that there is great opportunity for growth and development of FIRST teams in Tennessee and the impact that this rookie team is having and will continue to have by inspiring the people they meet, encourage, and help in their region. It was really something special to be able to follow you guys through the season. Congratulations on a job well done. :)

I would also like to give a shout out to Gatorzilla out of Dickinson, Texas. You made us proud! I can't wait to see what you do next year. Seriously.

Rookies rocked this year in FRC. That's the truth.

[Wayne C.]

I would like to extend a heartfelt congratulations to FRC Team 2775, lead through a terrific competition experience by Greg Needel. There are moments in our personal histories with FIRST that are stand-outs for us. Watching 2775 was a stand-out moment for me, knowing that so many teams have been inspired by these rookies and how some helped them along the road to Championship. Also knowing that there is great opportunity for growth and development of FIRST teams in Tennessee and the impact that this rookie team is having and will continue to have by inspiring the people they meet, encourage, and help in their region. It was really something special to be able to follow you guys through the season. Congratulations on a job well done. :)

I would also like to give a shout out to Gatorzilla out of Dickinson, Texas. You made us proud! I can't wait to see what you do next year. Seriously.

Rookies rocked this year in FRC. That's the truth.

I agree Jane- Greg kept telling me all weekend how he was reallty happy to play us in division. And he did- and kicked our butts!!!

well at least we were beaten by friends-- if your friends cant beat you then who should? (wait- that sounds wrong?)

They did great (but we'll get em next time ; ) )

WC :cool:

[David Sherman]

I must say that the finals on Galileo were amazing and the finals on Einstein were epic! I'd like to send a thank you to our fellow teams in Galileo, that was an amazing division to be a part of! Congrats to 111, 67, 971! Way to go 971 for representing the West Coast and even better representing California! Hope we get to see a lot of you at IRI.

[Zyik]

anyone have close up pics of 973's Raptor, that thing was such a beast, I only got distanced fuzzy shots of it in action. Thanks.

There's some pictures of Raptor on CD. They aren't the most up to date though, as we changed things up a little and gave it a hopper. This made it even more dangerous to get cornered by.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/33501
is one photo.

[Akash Rastogi]

Just want to apologize to the people who came by our pit asking for me, I didn't get a chance to see a lot of people who I had promised I'd say hello to (45, 27, 1511, and 766's students). Just hectic out there.

[NRfromCA]

We did just as good, if not better, than the Newton and Curie Champions did vs them, and we are extremely proud of that. I feel that in any other division our alliance could have made it to Einstein, but so it goes!

It's true, though the scores were nearly identical--certainly not enough better to definitively claim "second best alliance" status.

1717, 870, 2775 lost by 30 and 16 in Galileo Finals.
217, 98, 247 lost by 32 and 17 in Einstein Finals.

Those were the best performances against the winning alliance. Props to 67, 111, 971 for a very sweet run to the Championship!

[AlexD744]

I have a couple thoughts.

A huge congrats to 111, 67 and 971, you guys performed great all competition long and were truly the best alliance there.

Second, maybe not so cheerful comment.
For teams who competed on Galileo, did you notice that the blue alliance station seemed to lose communication throughout the weekend? At first I thought "oh we must have something loose", but after hearing of it happening to team after team, I raised an eyebrow. Did any of you also notice this?

If that was on the side closest to the tunnel then yes our robot, had a feild issue in our first qualifier. We had comms, we tested before and after and it worked fine. We concluded a feild issue, but o well, what happened happened.

[Akash Rastogi]

Haha, when I went over to Greg, 2775 seemed a bit upset about pairings during qualifications, but I think we all knew that they would be in eliminations on Saturday afternoon. ;) I still think team DeWALT is the most impressive rookie of the season. I take into account their partnership with their main sponsor instead of just pure robot accomplishments which by the way include St. Louis Finalists along with being Galileo division Finalists ;)

2775, your future is very bright, and I'm proud to have another yellow and black team in FIRST that can say that.

[Kristian Calhoun]

If that was on the side closest to the tunnel then yes our robot, had a feild issue in our first qualifier. We had comms, we tested before and after and it worked fine. We concluded a feild issue, but o well, what happened happened.
The red player station was closest to the tunnel.

We, 25, were on the blue alliance exactly three times, each at a different player station. We experienced no issues.

[Ryan Dognaux]

Did any of you also notice this?

I'll echo Kyle's curiosity on this. Both 1646 & 461 had communication issues when we were in the Blue 1 player station spot. The robot would become unresponsive for about 10 seconds and then would become responsive again and act normally. This happened in our match against 25 and 179 at the start and end of the match seen here. (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2009gal_qm50)

After checking the robot, everything was fine and we never had the problem again but I seemed to notice other times when it looked like the same thing was happening to other teams.

[Wayne C.]

I'll echo Kyle's curiosity on this. Both 1646 & 461 had communication issues when we were in the Blue 1 player station spot. The robot would become unresponsive for about 10 seconds and then would become responsive again and act normally. This happened in our match against 25 and 179 at the start and end of the match seen here. (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2009gal_qm50)

After checking the robot, everything was fine and we never had the problem again but I seemed to notice other times when it looked like the same thing was happening to other teams.

Looking at the video it almost looks like the contact jarred a connection somewhere. It eventually reset?

WC

[The Cyborg]

Congratulations to 111, 67, and 971 for being national champs. Your alliance was incredible to watch.

I also want to give my deepest thanks teams 71 and 987 for choosing us (65) as an alliance partner. Even though we didn't get very far, I felt that it was a high honor to work with the legendary Beast.

I did notice that there were lots of field issues on our division. I know of a couple of matches that had to be restarted, and there were sometimes long pauses between matches.

[rspurlin]

I have a couple thoughts.

A huge congrats to 111, 67 and 971, you guys performed great all competition long and were truly the best alliance there.

Second, maybe not so cheerful comment.
For teams who competed on Galileo, did you notice that the blue alliance station seemed to lose communication throughout the weekend? At first I thought "oh we must have something loose", but after hearing of it happening to team after team, I raised an eyebrow. Did any of you also notice this?First let me echo the congrats, not only to our division champions, shortly thereafter world champions, but to all the teams that competed on Galileo. It was an honor to work this field for the week.

Your scorekeeper team kept records of the match turns as well as records of which robots had issues. We did not see a pattern that followed one alliance station or either alliance. We did see that certain teams consistently had trouble with their robots, regardless of which alliance or station position they were assigned. This normally indicates the problem is on the robot side instead of the field side. I was watching the status displays most of the time and often knew there was a problem before the team did. In such instances we alerted the FTA and FTAA to try to see if they could identify and correct the problem. Most often the radio links would drop at the same time as a robot suffered a collision. I did notice that the robots having the most trouble syncing with the field tended to have the radio buried inside the robot. Metal can interfere with radio reception, as can large motors and their magnetic fields. We also had chat open to the NI booth and would alert them to check out robots we thought might need an experienced eye to find a subtle or hidden issue.

In 101 qualification matches we aborted two matches during play, one because an E-stop was hit when it should not have been. One other was replayed when multiple teams showed simultaneous communication issues during the match, leading us to believe that there could have been a field fault. There were many times when I'd see robots stop moving, yet status indicators would show no problems. Sometimes we could see parts of the robot moving (like an intake roller) but no drive capability. Draw your own conclusion as to where the problem resides. Perhaps that seems to some as if there were massive field problems, but having weathered many seasons at FIRST, it seemed everything ran pretty smoothly to me. Overall, we cycled qualification matches every 6 minutes and 16 seconds.

If someone has some evidence of a problem I missed, I'd sure like to pass it back up the chain to improve future competitions.

[engunneer]

There's some pictures of Raptor on CD. They aren't the most up to date though, as we changed things up a little and gave it a hopper. This made it even more dangerous to get cornered by.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/33501
is one photo.

That photo doesn't show the damage to the right front vertical support that 973 sustained in elims. It was fun working with the raptor. We had a good shot at finals and didn't quite make it. Also thanks to 25 for rounding out alliance #2.

I haven't gone through them yet, but i may have some good photos of 973 and 25 to hand over. PM me an email address if you want Galileo elim pictures.

[AdamHeard]

That photo doesn't show the damage to the right front vertical support that 973 sustained in elims. It was fun working with the raptor. We had a good shot at finals and didn't quite make it. Also thanks to 25 for rounding out alliance #2.

I haven't gone through them yet, but i may have some good photos of 973 and 25 to hand over. PM me an email address if you want Galileo elim pictures.

It also shows our pre-champ configuration.

The upper conveyor belts were removed, resulting in never storing balls in conveyor runs, and a dumping roller that was geared ridiculously fast.

I'll PM you an email, thanks for the pics.

And about that support, we were debating not even putting it in (we were sooooo close on weight).... but later decided to just to take the hit. Well, I can say we're glad we did.

[fritzdejongh]

If someone has some evidence of a problem I missed, I'd sure like to pass it back up the chain to improve future competitions.

Our rookie team had a blast in the Galileo division. It was great to have them compete against Wildstang in their first qual match, get beaten, and then watch Wildstang and their alliance win the whole thing.

One disappointment was also for us when the robot didn't move at all in a match, even though it had communication with the field. It only happened once the whole season, and we couldn't find any problem with our robot afterward. I talked with 1646 (I think) and it happened to them twice and they couldn't find any cause either.

One of our coaches was talking with a veteran team who apparently knew about a bug where if you turn on the robot before the DS had booted that there's a race condition that can occasionally result in this symptom. If true, it might be what happened to us. Normally we turn on the DS first, but there was time pressure to get the bots going for that match, and someone might have turned the bot on early. It fits better than any other theory I have. It could also explain why the problem occurred more for some teams: They might just be in the habit of turning their robot on early.

I can't find any info or posts about this though. Does anyone know about it? Is it really a problem? Is there a source of info us rookies should learn about?

I know this isn't really a field issue, and the fields did work amazingly well. It would have been nice to know that we have to be careful about this problem, and for the field managers to know as well (if true), so that they don't urge the kids to turn their bots on without being sure the DS is on.

In any case, we'll have a more strict turn-on procedure next year!

[Adam Freeman]

I just wanted to say it was great competing in Galileo this year. 67 was happy to represent the division, and we are glad that that we were able to help bring the Championship back to Galileo for a second season.

Thank you to all the teams that we alligned with throught the weekend.

It was great to meet all the new people I talked to. Especially talking with Shawn from 25, Andy Baker, Adam from 973, and Amir from 1717.

1717: I really admired your robot and your team. I was watching you guys work on autonomous modes on the practice field and the intensity and urgency that was displayed was incredible. For such a great robot, you guys were hustling around like crazy. It put a smile on my face to see how hard you were working to continue to improve. It was great to discuss game strategy with you. I wish we had a chance to play with you in a match, just to see how it would have gone. Maybe next year......

To everyone on 111 thank you for picking us and allowing us to have some input on the alliance selection list and strategy. You guys have an amazing team. It was a pleasure to coach with Raul and work with one of the best in FIRST. Your robot is amazing and your game play strategy is incredible.

To 971, you have a great robot. It started out rough for you in your first match, but you kept competing and working hard and we definitely noticed. There was no way that I expected you to be there at the end of the draft. I also had you guys in my pre-championship top 5, and you proved that observation correct in the end. Great job!

I am not sure we have had as smooth of matches this season, as we did this weekend. That is a credit to the great teamwork that we experienced during all of our matches together.

Thank you all for a great weekend!

Adam

[Mike Soukup]

To everyone on 111 thank you for picking us and allowing us to have some input on the alliance selection list and strategy. You guys have an amazing team. It was a pleasure to coach with Raul and work with one of the best in FIRST. Your robot is amazing and your game play strategy is incredible.
How could we not pick the most dominant team during the regional season? Your robot lived up to its expectations on Galileo, so it was an easy decision. I'm glad you and your scouting team gave us input on the alliance selection list, it helped a bunch to hear another team's opinions of who they thought was good and why. It was also a huge benefit to have to justify why we wanted team X over team Y, it really made us think. The give & take between the two teams to come up with the final list helped make it better.

[Thelilpluck461]

I'm glad that the world champs could come out of Galileo! Congrats to all teams it was a lot of fun.

[AdamHeard]

This just made me Lol. XD If we were that partner....I don't think that alliance would've made it past QFs lol.

anyone have close up pics of 973's Raptor, that thing was such a beast, I only got distanced fuzzy shots of it in action. Thanks.

Pat Fairbank took a whole bunch of pics, and here's a decent one as we were configured at champs.

http://picasaweb.google.com/patfair/Championship2009#5328434360290482482

[waialua359]

I agree with some of the last few posts that:
Something was up with driver station blue 1. Our robot kept losing communication on practice day both times we were in that position on the field, and then occasional resets.

And I was most impressed by 1717. Personally, I thought they had the best robot. Its ability to score was very consistent.
67 and/or 111 would have done equally well had 1717 been their alliance partner instead throughout the weekend. As a team started in 2006? they are a seasoned veteran presence.

[delsaner]

Do you have a suggestion as to which team it might be?

I'm kinda biased, but I'd really like to see 236 win... so I'm rooting for Curie.

Excellent Prediction.
:D

[Nica F.]

As a team started in 2006? they are a seasoned veteran presence.

Just confirmed with the FIRST site, and they were started in 2006. I agree with you completely with them having that presence. Every year I was able to see their robot at the Los Angeles Regional I was never less than impressed.

In addition, it was really great to see so many teams from California perform so well. Usually many can only name 330, 254, 968 when asked to name "great" teams from CA when there is so much potential elsewhere as well. 971, 1717, 973, & 207 all put up a tough fight in eliminations, hats off to you.

[smurfgirl]

Excellent Prediction.
:D

It was coming one of these days. (: I'm really happy for them!

[Matt_Kaplan1902]

I had a chance to talk with the coach of 1717 after the eliminations and he told me how his team every season is made up primarily of seniors, so every new school year he has an entirely new group of kids that are total rookies. That makes how competitive they have been every year even more impressive.

[Magnechu]

Yeah, since we allianced with them, we got the rundown (if I remember incorrectly LMK): Each year they take 32 kids from each grade level (32 freshmen, 32 sophomores, 32 juniors, 32 seniors) and only the 32 seniors attend the Championshp, with the others also attending the regionals. Because of this, their drivers every single year are "rookies" but I'm sure they practice quite a bit back home. ;)

[waialua359]

Yes,
after talking with Amir from 1717 and his students, I mentioned how they teamed up with our friends 368 in San Diego in 2007 to get to the finals.
The students had no idea what I was talking about, hence, they have new students every year.

[andrewhsu]

Thanks again for all the recognition. Our team really appreciates it, and is extremely proud about getting mentioned by all these great teams! Anyway, a short breakdown on how our team works-- we pretty much have a four year program, with the freshmen to junior classes learning some basic concepts (namely basic compsci, AP Physics, and some hands-on engineering stuff) and then we're pretty much "thrown in the [FIRST] fire" when it comes to senior year. The team usually just takes along a total of 10 or so juniors across two regionals to experience what it's like to be at one, leaving the majority pretty clueless when it comes down to it(including me this year!) It does make for a great year, though. :D
And sorry about not having a clue about past events! I wish we could have experienced some of the comps last year... But it definitely happened to us a couple times this year-- one of our favorite teams was extremely distressed when "our team acted like we had no idea who they were"... we didn't :P