[FF]: IRI Auction League

[JackN]

I am proposing a 10 owner auction style draft with each member having 7 teams. Scoring will be based on draft position, elimination finish and qualifying record (If available). Each owner will have 100 points to use to buy teams in an auction style. The draft will take place on a day and time agreed upon by the owners after the team list has been formalized for IRI. It will also take place via AOL Instant Messenger in a chat room.

1. JackN

[Ericgehrken]

I'm in

1. JackN
2. firstbots195

[Alex Cormier]

in.

[Joe G.]

in.

[Ericgehrken]

2009 FF IRI Auction League Current Roster

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44

[IndySam]

Current Roster

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam

in.

[ATannahill]

i'll take a whack at it

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow

[Akash Rastogi]

In.

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi

[Travis Hoffman]

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman


Darn it, now I want fantasy football season to start again. :)

[Chris is me]

in, if possible ^_^


1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me

[XaulZan11]

in.

Love fantasy auction leagues...

[Akash Rastogi]

Darn it, now I want fantasy football season to start again. :)

My first pick is team 46. :p

I just won.

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me
10. XaulZan11

[Chris is me]

I will offer 100 points for Team 46! Who could let such legends get into your hands!

On a serious note this would make more sense being done in IRC, but AIM works too.

[JackN]

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me
10. XaulZan11

The league is closed

[Barry Bonzack]

this sounds like a cool twist to FF. let me know how it pans out, I'm disappointed I've been too busy to be on CD lately

[Barry Bonzack]

Sounds like there is an opening afterall. If so, I'm in.

[Barry Bonzack]

I would like to make a suggestion, I know we are planning on doing live bidding, but i'm wondering if there is a way to do bidding through posts, and set a final call date.

Example. I bid the following amount of points, for the following teams listed in order by lowest number team.



67--------Barry Bonzack---15
68--------Barry Bonzack---14
71--------Barry Bonzack---14
111-------Barry Bonzack---14
217-------Barry Bonzack---15
1114------Barry Bonzack---14
1625------Barry Bonzack---14

If someone wants them more than I do, they replace their name with mine and the new high bid, and add any other bids in numeric order.

Rules:
You can not bid for more than 7 teams at one time.
You can not bid for more than 100 points at one time.
No decimal points - bid in whole numbers only


This is not kicking off this bidding system, I just wanted to discuss the option. If the point of this league was to involve real-time bidding in a chat room format, then this system will not work. If the goal of the league is to innovate a new way to select teams for FF, then its worth discussion.

[Ericgehrken]

Just to let the league know, my CD username has been changed to Ericgehrken.

[XaulZan11]

Will we still be drafting tommorrow even though the final team list hasn't been posted?

I would prefer we wait until we get the final team list. I think if the draft is before, the results may be determined by who has insider information or who is faster to snatch up the new team, instead of actually knowing the teams.

[JackN]

I agree, I would like to postpone the draft until next tuesday (if the list is posted soon). I apologize for the inconveniences this may cause. Either PM me or respond here if that is ok.

@Barry I would like this to be a live draft, to have a more social aspect to this league.

[Ericgehrken]

I'm fine with waiting until next week.

[IndySam]

I'm easy, next week is fine.

[Chris is me]

As long as it's not Wednesday or Thursday (RPI Orientation) I'm good.

[Joe G.]

Unfortunately, due to a change in travel plans, I will be unable to participate in the draft this week. My spot is up for grabs

I apologize for the last-minute notice.

[Akash Rastogi]

Unfortunately, due to a change in travel plans, I will be unable to participate in the draft this week. My spot is up for grabs

I apologize for the last-minute notice.

Can I call dibs?

[Joe G.]

Sure, you can have it

[Chris is me]

I wish I didn't tell Akash all my favorite picks now ._.

Anyway, correction to the PM: My AIM is actually wikichrisisme .

[XaulZan11]

I have one suggestion and one question.

For the suggestion: I've done a couple of auction fantasy football leagues and for those once a person nominates a player/team, an open auction is began. Here anyone can bid at anytime and it ends when no one wants to bid, instead of going in order having each person bid or pass. I fear that by going in order, the draft may take hours and may be overly confusing ("Am I next? I thought I was after...?"). Just a suggestion, I've never done it this way, so it may be easier.

For the question: If we keep it the bidding/passing in order, can you pass one 'round' and then bid the next time around?

[Akash Rastogi]

Unfortunately, I'll have to drop for tonight for something important. Sorry.




girl+move>robots

[ATannahill]

Does that mean we need a new person or you are going to take from what is left over?

[Aren_Hill]

girl+move>robots
wait im confused....:confused: :eek:


had to

[Travis Hoffman]

I would proceed with what we have.

[JackN]

I am just planning on going ahead as scheduled.

[IndySam]

I am just planning on going ahead as scheduled.

can I have his 100 points?

[JackN]

can I have his 100 points?

Sorry No, instead you have to start with 90 points

[ATannahill]

Can I have his 10 points?

[Alex Cormier]

All your points is mine.

[Chris is me]

All your points are belong to us. I have a pick list and everything ready, no invite yet.

[Alex Cormier]

AIM chat room is iriffauctiondraft

[Chris is me]

My final pix:

1625
47
1503
1771
461
48

[Akash Rastogi]

My final pix:

1625
47
1503
1771
461
48

That's a great set of teams Chris..wish I hadn't missed out =/

[ATannahill]

I got 2970 399 70 1646 2826 and 868.

[Barry Bonzack]

1114, 234, 71, 1732, 910, and...errr... was it 1714?

[Travis Hoffman]

Here is the final IRI Auction League draft board.

Position is the order in which teams were selected for bidding. Bid is the final winning bid the Owner paid for the team. Each of the 9 owners had a budget of 100 points to spend on 6 teams.

I definitely enjoyed this more than the typical pick your team directly draft. The only caveat is that an auction draft takes more time to complete.



Team Name Position Bid Owner
1625 Winnovation 1 31 Chris is Me
67 Heroes of Tomorrow 2 40 Alex Cormier
217 ThunderChickens 3 34 IndySam
222 Tigertrons 4 23 Ericgehrken
148 Robowranglers 5 21 Travis Hoffman
254 The Cheesy Poofs 6 26 Alex Cormier
45 TechnoKats 7 25 IndySam
365 Miracle Workerz/MOE 8 17 JackN
79 Krunch 9 20 Alex Cormier
2970 eSchool eBots 10 22 rtfgnow
503 Frog Force 11 15 Xaulzan11
111 Wildstang 12 34 IndySam
1114 Simbotics 13 28 Barry Bonzack
1503 Spartonics 14 21 Chris is Me
2753 Team Overdrive 15 27 Travis Hoffman
68 Truck Town Thunder 16 32 JackN
2775 Liberty-DeWALT Robotics 17 19 Xaulzan11
47 Chief Delphi 18 19 Chris is Me
2056 OP Robotics 19 33 Xaulzan11
1902 Exploding Bacon 20 16 Ericgehrken
1538 The Holy Cows 21 17 Travis Hoffman
234 Cyber Blue 22 22 Barry Bonzack
71 Team Hammond 23 31 Barry Bonzack
33 Killer Bees 24 17 Ericgehrken
330 Beach Bots 25 16 JackN
48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E. 26 4 Chris is Me
399 Eagle Robotics 27 26 rtfgnow
245 Adambots 28 24 JackN
1923 The MidKnight Inventors 29 12 Ericgehrken
341 Miss Daisy 30 11 Xaulzan11
16 Bomb Squad 31 17 Travis Hoffman
179 Children of the Swamp 32 12 Alex Cormier
70 More Martians 33 13 rtfgnow
469 Las Guerrillas 34 12 Xaulzan11
1646 Boiler Precision Guessworks 35 2 rtfgnow
1771 North Gwinnett Robotics 36 19 Chris is Me
2826 Wave Robotics 37 7 rtfgnow
135 Black Knights 38 19 Ericgehrken
1038 Thunderhawks 39 7 Travis Hoffman
1747 HBR 40 13 Ericgehrken
1649 EMS 41 11 Travis Hoffman
461 Westside Boiler Invasion 42 6 Chris is Me
1741 Red Alert Robotics 43 1 IndySam
1714 More Robotics 44 2 Barry Bonzack
868 TechHOUNDS 45 30 rtfgnow
910 The Foley Freeze 46 11 Barry Bonzack
292 PantherTech 47 2 IndySam
832 Chimera 48 1 Alex Cormier
1675 Ultimate Protection Squad 49 1 Xaulzan11
107 Team R.O.B.O.T.I.C.S 50 6 JackN
1732 Hilltoppers 51 6 Barry Bonzack
1024 Kil-A-Bytes 52 5 JackN
829 The Digital Goats 53 4 IndySam
118 The Robonauts 54 1 Alex Cormier

[Akash Rastogi]

Dang some of those were such steals!:yikes:

[Chris is me]

I'm still shocked I got the new and improved 47 for only 19 points. And still upset that rtfgnow outbid me on all my favorite rookies. Still can't complain with 6 very solid teams though.

[XaulZan11]

Yeah, I agree with Travis. The auction style was a lot more enjoyable. It also gives more freedom to the person: do they want 3 elite teams and 3 scrubs or 6 very solid teams? It does take longer and does require everyone to be at the draft, but I think it is worth it.

I'm fairly pleased with my team. 5/6 of them made eliminations in Atlanta. Only Eric has more, but I don't think he has an elite team, like 2056.

I think Barry and JackN have the two best teams, though.

[Barry Bonzack]

I'm giving Indysam the nod on this one.

I'm wishing I would have bitten the bullet and bid for 222. I am very pleased with my team though.

[IndySam]

I took the go big or go home approach and spent 93 on my first three picks.
There were a couple of real good teams that I thought would sneak under peoples radar but that didn't happen the way I hoped.

We will see if lack of depth hurts me.

217, 45, 111, 1741, 292 and 829.

[Chris is me]

I was going to go for 1 superpower, 3 under the radar, 2 whatever else I can get, and it worked out alright for me. I wish 2970 went for less, but I've got 47 for less than I expected 2970 so I can't complain.

2826 was going to be my sleeper since all they really need to do in order to be competitive at IRI is human load and / or modify their intake (they even have an autonomous that takes them close enough to a human player, so it's literally just a strategy change). But silly rtfgnow had to nab them and 2970 in the Spree of Wisconsin Rookies.

I like the auction style because it allowed for a lot of strategy discussion, closest thing I'll get to FIRST IRC :)

[Travis Hoffman]

With 2826's exit from the IRI team list, rtfgnow must make another selection from the remaining list of teams.

[ATannahill]

How long can I procrastinate deliberate before choosing?

[Chris is me]

Do it long enough for me to bribe them into going again ?

I don't see why you shouldn't have all the time you need.

[Akash Rastogi]

How long can I procrastinate deliberate before choosing?

May I suggest 2199?

[JackN]

You can switch up until the Thursday of IRI, just make sure to post it here or PM me.

[ATannahill]

Right now I am going to take 2194.

[Barry Bonzack]

I have been wrestling with this since the draft, and I am not sure what the rules are on switching teams in this league, but is it possible to drop 1732 and pick up 2199?

[XaulZan11]

I have been wrestling with this since the draft, and I am not sure what the rules are on switching teams in this league, but is it possible to drop 1732 and pick up 2199?


If it is possible, I would like to drop 1675 and pick up 1732.

[JackN]

All these changes are fine, I will update the scoring sheet.

[Barry Bonzack]

I uploaded a whitepaper. So far...

Chris 25-10-0
Indysam 23-12-0
Alex 23-13-0
Xaul 19-17-0
Barry 18-17-0
Travis 16-20-0
Eric 16-20-0
rtfgnow 15-19-0
JackN 12-22-0

[Chris is me]

I told you guys that 47 for 19 points was a MASSIVE steal. They are absolutely awesome. I'm really happy with all my picks, actually. They're all doing pretty well. Once we get to eliminations I suspect stuff will happen.

[JackN]

I'll try to score it this week, expect it up by Wednesday probably. If I had to bet, I would think XaulZan or Chris is Me probably won.

[JackN]

And we have scores

Chris Is Me 174
IndySam 153
XaulZan 143
Alex Cormier 138
JackN 133
Barry Bonzack 128
Travis Hoffman 102
ErichGehrken 89
rtfgnow 73

[XaulZan11]

Darn, I thought I had a good chance with 5 of my 6 teams making the eliminations (the most by anyone). Congrats to Chris!

Jack, could you post the scoring that you used? I'm doing a season long fantasy FIRST (similar to football where you keep teams throughout the year and choose which ones to start) with some people on my team and working on a fair scoring system for robot preformance only.

[Chris is me]

I don't really know the scoring system but I bet I got lucky with a lot of the awards. 1771 getting a Judge's Award, 47 getting Best Scoring Robot, and 461 getting one on top of 1625 winning probably gave me a huge boost. I didn't pick based on awards.

[Alex Cormier]

At least I beat Jack...

[Koko Ed]

At least I beat Jack...

You live for the small victories, don't you?

[JaneYoung]

I didn't pick based on awards.

Just a little food for thought for a moment...

With the depth of the field in so many different areas besides and alongside of the robot competition - it would have given you all a run for your money and an excellent use of your time to think about all of the teams involved in IRI 2009 and what they each brought to the table. It was a cornucopia of talent, expertise, passion, knowledge, commitment, inspiration, attitude, and teamwork. Given the times and realities that we are living in, the teams and everything that they believe in and stand for, made IRI even more significant and powerful in 2009.

.02
Jane

[Aren_Hill]

Jane, its alot harder to pinpoint a team which will get a certain award such as the imagery award and so on, than it is to pick out teams you know will perform on the field well. As such it is typically an intelligent choice to pick by robot capability for a small mini competition FF based around such.

[JaneYoung]

Jane, its alot harder to pinpoint a team which will get a certain award such as the imagery award and so on, than it is to pick out teams you know will perform on the field well. As such it is typically an intelligent choice to pick by robot capability for a small mini competition FF based around such.

Yup.

And, congratulations to you and the team on a job well done.

[IndySam]

My best ever finish in a FRC fantasy league. I would really like to see how the scoring went, Jack and I have a history together and .........







:)

[XaulZan11]

Actually, scoring was not based on awards--only on the field preformance. But I do agree that trying to predict awards winners (especially in such a deep field where nearly every team is deserving) is very difficult.