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And remember, there are two more drafts during the competition season.
MI State Championship: Draft is held a day or two before the event.
FRC Championship: During the break between regionals and the Championship.
I wouldn't let those slide, as there are some really good points to be had in the MI State event.
I'll be sending out PM polls to find out how many picks people thing we should have for the championships(I'm not doing 10 rounds).
I've got an idea, but I'll respond later via PM.
You want me to go ahead and plan on doing MI the Wednesday of that week, like happened last year?
I've got an idea, but I'll respond later via PM.
You want me to go ahead and plan on doing MI the Wednesday of that week, like happened last year?
I won't have to travel as far this year but I could use a break, so yeah you can take it this time.
I'll be sending out PM polls to find out how many picks people thing we should have for the championships(I'm not doing 10 rounds).
what do you mean by 10 rounds? wouldnt we just do the same things for these championships as we do normal regionals?
what do you mean by 10 rounds? wouldnt we just do the same things for these championships as we do normal regionals?
There's 300+ teams to be divided amongst 22 league members.
There's more than enough teams for more rounds.
well what id think in that situation what we should do would be just do rounds for each division and just make the leagues like 11 people deep so then that would make just 8 divisions for Nationals
well what id think in that situation what we should do would be just do rounds for each division and just make the leagues like 11 people deep so then that would make just 8 divisions for Nationals
Nah, this is the one draft where everyone competes against everyone. There's also a slightly different point structure, which happens to include the Einstein matches. So it kind of isn't fair to some folks to go by division.
And if we did go by divisions, we'd just do the full round. All of us together is 66 teams in a 3-round draft, and there are 70-80 in a division. There are 300+ teams in the event, so we can do quite a few. Last year, we did 4 rounds, and there were good teams left over.
I was just thinking if we did it by each person getting 3 robots from each division, everyone would get a look at every division, more points to be had, and everyone would get more picks
Vikesrock
06-01-2010, 21:52
I think doing a league for each division for Champs is an interesting idea. By selecting more teams I think it adds a bit more skill in trying to pull some diamonds in the rough. Also, the increase in the number of possible Champs points will likely keep more players in contention for the overall championship up through Champs.
If the issue is running 4 separate drafts I will gladly run 1 or even 2 of them at the same time. If the issue is people not wanting to make lists/picks for 4 separate drafts then I have no problem with the way we did it last year.
Barry Bonzack
06-01-2010, 22:03
there are PLENTY of good teams in Atlanta. I usually have no problem picking a 4th robot.
Jamie Kalb
06-01-2010, 22:46
there are PLENTY of good teams in Atlanta. I usually have no problem picking a 4th robot.
I totally agree. I'm down for more rounds - it's such a deep field that my list would have enough teams to go multiple rounds for once!
Here's how it's been done in the past:
2 years ago: 3 rounds due to running out of time. We were, shall we say, much less organized that year.
Last year: 4 rounds over a few days. Still some good teams left.
This year, if we could do two rounds per day, we could probably get 5-6 rounds in, and still have some decent teams left over.
Let's do the math: 22 players, 320 teams as a decent estimate. That's enough to do 14 rounds at the outside and still have a few teams left. That's also a lot of time to take, so let's not have that many. I'd be just fine with 5-6 rounds spread over 2-3 days.
I admit I am quite fascinated with the concept of doing four drafts for each divisions. I must point out the winner of the Elgin Clock would have HUGE ADVANTAGE getting a first shot at apparently the best team available in each division. The drafts would have to be done on the weekend of April 10th and 11th with dual drafts each night. I will be traveling by car towards Atlanta but I should be available to run a draft.
So you guys down with this idea?
I'll probably be available to run drafts then.
Side note: if everyone has a list in, the drafts run MUCH faster. Also note that exact format--1-tier or 2-tier would have to be chosen.
Also, FYI, the Championship scoring modifications are typically as follows:
5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners
40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field
80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
These might need tweaking to account for a different system, or might not.
I'll probably be available to run drafts then.
Side note: if everyone has a list in, the drafts run MUCH faster. Also note that exact format--1-tier or 2-tier would have to be chosen.
Also, FYI, the Championship scoring modifications are typically as follows:
5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners
40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field
80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
These might need tweaking to account for a different system, or might not.
Don't fix it if it aint broken.
We will have to be on top of our game and be ready to have the final standings a few days after the end of week 5 so we can have both the final standings and team rankings ready for the championships.
Don't fix it if it aint broken.
We will have to be on top of our game and be ready to have the final standings a few days after the end of week 5 so we can have both the final standings and team rankings ready for the championships.
If this year goes anything like last year, scores will be out right after the end of Week 5. The teams list should be going out as soon as the last drafts are finished.
1703
1266
1457
1661
1572
473
1836
812
2659
2486
2102
2520
3011
973
2139
1013
2484
988
3156
39
2543
3041
2037
3009
254
2496
3019
1780
1622
585
2057
2485
1641
3155
2984
1631
1726
1669
2813
509
1251
4
842
25
987
So just so I know I am getting this right, we are gonna do one draft for each division?
So just so I know I am getting this right, we are gonna do one draft for each division?
Sounds good to me.
49
2023
1051
1261
1772
281
1758
1026
1539
2430
3371
1293
1102
1553
2815
1225
1616
337
1379
2974
343
1398
1287
1915
2751
1319
1563
1811
3270
1959
342
2187
804
He showed.
but he ditched tonight's draft while online.
My mind is made up. He aint coming back next year.
I'm tired of his act. And there's a few other members who are making my naughty list as well.
You guys better straighten up!
Barry Bonzack
08-01-2010, 21:34
man it feels good to be done with drafting until next November. I'm sure Ed, Eric, Kevin, and Alex would agree. Thanks all for running the drafts! Best of luck.
I'm curious, how many other players had perfect attendance in the drafts? I know I sent in picks for all drafts, I'm going to say roughly 4 drafts I either rushed my list, or made lists with incomplete information.
Also, make your prediction on the outcome of the season, here's mine
1. Alex
2. Kevin
3. Barry
4. Bethany
5. Sunger
Vikesrock
08-01-2010, 21:51
I missed Hawaii. I even had a list made well in advance, I just didn't send it in for some reason :o
From watching the drafts I would guess there are very few players that showed up for every draft.
Your predicted order of finish seems pretty good. There are definitely a couple other players that have some decent picks and may end up in the top 5 or even the Elgin Clock.
Also, there's still MI State Champs and Champs left to draft so we're not done quite yet.
Kellen Hill
08-01-2010, 23:20
I only missed one draft. There were a few other ones where I didn't send in lists because I wasn't familiar with the teams and just really didn't care who I ended up with. Last year I actually went through and found who had won awards/the most awards to decide who I drafted, but this year my lists consisted of teams I knew would do well and let luck and the randomizer determine the rest for me. We'll see how this strategy pans out for me down the line.
I had at least a list in for every draft. Sorry, no predictions from me, but I do have the full list ready to go. It is located at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317
All players would be well-advised to check their teams for all the drafts to make sure there are no issues with the sheet.
Chris is me
09-01-2010, 00:52
My best laid plans were to make a list for every draft based on past history and research, but time and other commitments got to me over break. I was in about 3/4s of drafts, the rest because I didn't know any teams, business, or carelessness. I'll do better next year!
I decided to have some fun with a few statistics over the history of Season Long. Specifically, the drop/boot rate.
2008: 65 participants, no boots, one or two drops (and a late add). Active participants: maybe about 20-30. Hence the miss 5 and out rules.
2009: 42 participants, 2 withdrawals, 12 boots. 33% of the league didn't finish. Of the 12 boots, fully 75% disappeared after the first 5 drafts.
2010: 31 participants, 3 withdrawals, 6 boots. 29% non-finishers. Of the boots, 67% or 2/3 were gone after the first 5 drafts.
So, we've been losing fewer people, but playing with fewer.
Of particular note is that it looks like the vast majority of boots happen after the first 5 drafts. Withdrawals (voluntary boots) typically happen after 1-2 drafts.
Just some food for thought.
I decided to have some fun with a few statistics over the history of Season Long. Specifically, the drop/boot rate.
2008: 65 participants, no boots, one or two drops (and a late add). Active participants: maybe about 20-30. Hence the miss 5 and out rules.
2009: 42 participants, 2 withdrawals, 12 boots. 33% of the league didn't finish. Of the 12 boots, fully 75% disappeared after the first 5 drafts.
2010: 31 participants, 3 withdrawals, 6 boots. 29% non-finishers. Of the boots, 67% or 2/3 were gone after the first 5 drafts.
So, we've been losing fewer people, but playing with fewer.
Of particular note is that it looks like the vast majority of boots happen after the first 5 drafts. Withdrawals (voluntary boots) typically happen after 1-2 drafts.
Just some food for thought.
Usually it's people who have never played before and are the kind of people who don't read the manual and thus don't read my first post saying if you're not going to participate don't join and they hit reply and are never heard from again. I could care less if I have only ten dedicated players over a hundred who show up every once in a while. I want people who want to participate because they enjoy playing the game and getting some sort of challange from playing it not people who are either looking for something to pass the time like some Facebook app that they can play with every once in a while or something to fit in with the veterans.
The new seeding system certainly turns things upside down not only for FRC but for us as well since they are not using W-L-T anymore (this better be a one year thing). Should we go by whatever points the team accumulates during the regional and add that to their score?
Barry Bonzack
10-01-2010, 15:36
The new seeding system certainly turns things upside down not only for FRC but for us as well since they are not using W-L-T anymore (this better be a one year thing). Should we go by whatever points the team accumulates during the regional and add that to their score?
we could do that, or just give more points based on what seed the team ends up. The final result is that both points are tracking the same thing.
XaulZan11
10-01-2010, 16:45
I had at least a list in for every draft. Sorry, no predictions from me, but I do have the full list ready to go. It is located at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317
All players would be well-advised to check their teams for all the drafts to make sure there are no issues with the sheet.
I think you mixed up my teams for the person above me in Florida. I should have 118, 1523 and 2757.
I made all my lists before the first draft. I only ranked teams by my memory of them, so I'm sure they are not perfect and I probably missed some good teams. I think I missed two drafts because I just missed making the list for those regionals. Twice my lists were not used, resulting in me not getting 71 or any teams from Midwest, for which I had a very deep list for. Anyway, it should be exciting to see how it turns out.
I've updated the sheet to reflect the stuff I've been informed about as well as the rerun of Northstar 1.
As for the new seeding, it should be possible, though more difficult, to get W-L-T scores. After all, you have to win or tie to get the Coopertition bonus, and in the eliminations you have to win. It shouldn't be too hard (hypothetically) to go through and get W-L-T from the FIRST website or TBA.
I think, though, that if we do go the points scored route, it should be the average, rounded down (or up) to the nearest whole number.
There have been a bunch of issues and trades cropping up, so I've put out an updated team list. Same place: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317
If you have a team that is in bold, there is an issue--either they aren't attending, or somebody got them first. If there is a missing/double-picked team when an event is scored, whoever has that team gets the first random team available. If you're lucky, they get a decent score. If you aren't, they got a negative score.
A word of advice for those looking at this, it might help to change the font. Times New Roman worked well for me. At least for me, it is hard to catch bold with Calibri font. Thanks for going through this all Eric.
I've changed the font; it'll be reflected in the next update, which should be right after ship.
Meanwhile, I've been going through Week 1 events looking for missing teams, and there are a lot. (Note: in most cases, not checked against actual picks. If you have a different team that has already replaced the missing one, remind me about it.)
So, here's the list I have so far. If you're on it, it is your job to fix the teams listed by the Week 1 trade deadline. Once that deadline passes, I get the "fun" of going through the random list and figuring out what team you get instead, if you don't do it for me.
Format: Player; Event1, Team1; Event2, Team2; ... EventX, TeamX
Sunbun; D.C., 2885; Peachtree, 538
jmanela; Bayou, 2983
Akash; Peachtree, 3254; New Jersey, 371
hill; San Diego, 125; Bayou, 2983
Chris is me; San Diego, 3178; Peachtree, 3254
Alex Cormier; Kettering, 453; Peachtree, 281
rocketperson44; New Jersey, 371
Barry Bonzack; D.C., 2884; Bayou, 1985
jblay; Traverse City, 2054; Bayou, 2936
bobwrit; San Diego, 125
XaulZan11; Bayou, 1985
Dargel1625; San Diego, 125
TheLoneAsian; Granite State, 1958
Bethany Mc.; Bayou, 2292
Jamie Kalb; Peachtree, 538 & 3139
I will be updating this list over time, as I go through more events.
All right, so I finished going through the list of teams and comparing it with FIRST's lists, and I've posted the results at the usual place. If one or more of your teams are in bold, you need to change them. If they're also in italics, it's a double-pick.
And yes, we do have one player who lost an entire alliance. Happens every year...
ATannahill
06-02-2010, 23:13
Eric, please read http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=906018&postcount=35 and update your file.
Got it. It'll show up in the version I post with the pre-Week 1 updates.
By the way, remember that the drafts lock the day before they begin, at midnight. In other words, you have until the midnight right before an event to change any picks in that draft.
All right, with build season winding down to its final few hours, I figure that this is a good time to remind everyone that the sheet with all the teams that you have is at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317. You have until midnight, Wednesday, 3/1, to change your picks in Week 1. A fair number of teams have dropped out of events (125 in San Diego, for example), or I may have simply missed a change. Hey, maybe I entered the team wrong, and the number has transposed digits or something like that. They'll count as not there unless I know about the mistake...
Any teams that are still in bold (not there) on the sheet when the drafts are locked get replaced with random teams.
Also, a couple of general scoring-type questions:
1) Did we ever decide what to do with W-L-T record? It shouldn't be too hard to track, assuming that FIRST has to track it anyway to decide the Coopertition bonus in a given round. Options are Keep, Remove, or Change the point values.
2) What kind of point value do we want to give the Coopertition Award? I personally think it should be worth more than the 2 points it would be worth under the current system; maybe 10 points?
All right, with build season winding down to its final few hours, I figure that this is a good time to remind everyone that the sheet with all the teams that you have is at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317. You have until midnight, Wednesday, 3/1, to change your picks in Week 1. A fair number of teams have dropped out of events (125 in San Diego, for example), or I may have simply missed a change. Hey, maybe I entered the team wrong, and the number has transposed digits or something like that. They'll count as not there unless I know about the mistake...
Any teams that are still in bold (not there) on the sheet when the drafts are locked get replaced with random teams.
Also, a couple of general scoring-type questions:
1) Did we ever decide what to do with W-L-T record? It shouldn't be too hard to track, assuming that FIRST has to track it anyway to decide the Coopertition bonus in a given round. Options are Keep, Remove, or Change the point values.
2) What kind of point value do we want to give the Coopertition Award? I personally think it should be worth more than the 2 points it would be worth under the current system; maybe 10 points?
We should reward 2 points for the co-opertition bonus and 0 points for the loss.
Also the co-opertition award is fine at 10 points for winning it.
Chris is me
25-02-2010, 03:37
I wanna go with whomever gets the most RP + CP for each match is effectively the "winner" for the two points, but I wouldn't mind that the alliance with the CP is the "winner" either.
I wanna go with whomever gets the most RP + CP for each match is effectively the "winner" for the two points, but I wouldn't mind that the alliance with the CP is the "winner" either.
Have I mentioned how much I hate this ranking system?
Akash Rastogi
26-02-2010, 21:47
Are we adding point values for the randomly announced Dean's List award?
I was thinking about that, too...
Why not, say somewhere in the range of 4-6 points/student winner? (Considering that it may be possible to have 2 winners from the same team...)
Reasoning: It's the student version of the WFFA (8 points), but there are 2 winners per event this year, so cut the value a bit to reflect that.
Vikesrock
26-02-2010, 22:18
4 sounds good. Make it half of WFFA as there are two winners.
Akash Rastogi
26-02-2010, 22:20
4 sounds good. Make it half of WFFA as there are two winners.
Agreed.
Jamie Kalb
26-02-2010, 23:47
Agreed.
Seconded.
I'd say, barring Ed's complete disapproval, that we have a general consensus.
Dean's List, 4 points.
The complete regular season scoring, updated:
Coopertition Bonus, 2 points (formerly Win)
Tie, 1 point
No bonus, 0 points (formerly Loss and -2)
Win, 30 points
Finalist, 20 points
Semifinalist, 10 points
Quarterfinalist, 4 points
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points
WFFA, 8 points
RCA, 42 points
EI, 36 points
RAS, 20 points
Rookie Inspiration, 15 points
Coopertition Award, 10 points (new)
Highest Rookie Seed, 5 points
High score, 5 points
Judges Award, 5 points
Robot-based award (Delphi, Xerox, GM, Rockwell), 15 points
Dean’s List, 4 points (new)
Any award not previously mentioned, 2 points
(Oh, and Jamie--you're missing 1642 in Dallas.)
Jamie Kalb
27-02-2010, 01:06
The points system sounds good! Can't wait for Week 1!
(Oh, and Jamie--you're missing 1642 in Dallas.)
And thanks for the heads-up. I fixed it.
The following players still have missing teams in Week 1. Remember, the deadline to switch them out is Wednesday at midnight if you don't want a random team!
jmanela: Bayou, 2983
Akash: Peachtree, 3254
rocketperson44: New Jersey, 371
Barry B.: Washington D.C., 2884; Bayou, 1985
jblay: Traverse City, 2054; Bayou, 2936
bobwrit: San Diego, 125
TheLoneAsian: Granite State, 1958 (apparently a mistype when the team was assigned--1058 instead of 1958)
Bethany Mc.: Bayou, 2292; New Jersey, 422
(And just because you don't have a missing team in Week 1 doesn't mean you don't have one in a later week...)
Week 1 drafts are locked at this point in time. Random teams are being issued.
Week 2 has a lot of holes, especially in WPI and Chesapeake. A full listing will some when I have some time. Meanwhile, check your picks on the list and see if you have any issues. Week 2 locks at this time next Wednesday...
Week 1 drafts are locked at this point in time. Random teams are being issued.
Week 2 has a lot of holes, especially in WPI and Chesapeake. A full listing will some when I have some time. Meanwhile, check your picks on the list and see if you have any issues. Week 2 locks at this time next Wednesday...
Thanks for all the hard work you've done, Eric.
After combing through the sheet for Week 2, I find that the following events have missing teams selected:
Cass Tech: dodar, 3095; jblay, 3095
Ann Arbor: XaulZan11, 1015
Arizona: Koko Ed, 597; Alex Cormier, 2254; bobwrit, 580; XaulZan11, 580
Florida: jmanela, 1341; Barry Bonzack, 3025
WPI: Alex Cormier, 353; sunger92, 177; RMiller, 2626; TheLoneAsian, 177; Bethany Mc., 353
Chesapeake: Chris is me, 379; Alex Cormier, 3340; Barry Bonzack, 339; XaulZan11, 339; TheLoneAsian, entire alliance
New York City: Barry Bonzack, 3304
Israel: Sunbun, 3420; RMiller, 2231 double-pick
Yes, we do have someone who had his entire alliance drop out of an event. Not good. Chesapeake and WPI are the hardest hit.
give me a random for Cass Tech
Vikesrock
06-03-2010, 00:37
So the easiest way to find winners and losers is by using the final match score. This is what TBA does and I was hoping to just take the win/loss data from there.
The problem with this is DQs. DQs are not directly reported by FIRST so they will still show up as a win using this method. Do we want to do anything about this? Can we?
So the easiest way to find winners and losers is by using the final match score. This is what TBA does and I was hoping to just take the win/loss data from there.
The problem with this is DQs. DQs are not directly reported by FIRST so they will still show up as a win using this method. Do we want to do anything about this? Can we?
Unless someone does top notch searching on the subject I don't think there's anything we can do.
Vikesrock
06-03-2010, 23:10
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 9 done so far, 2 more to go.
Here are the issues I've run into so far:
GA standings are missing.
SD is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
KC is missing team for WFFA
NJ will wait 'till tomorrow.
ROC is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
OR is missing team for WFFA
High score is a pain to determine as it is no longer listed as part of the standings.
Jamie Kalb
07-03-2010, 00:07
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 5 done so far, 6 more to go.
Thanks Kevin!
And darn you for calling 2 district winners at Kettering. :mad:
Vikesrock
07-03-2010, 00:33
I just posted a paper in CD-Media with the scores done for all events except Peachtree (missing standings) and New Jersey (not done yet) with the WFFA and Dean's List exceptions above (they are highlighted in red in the sheet).
This should allow people to have fun calculating their own scores and guessing where they will shake out.
I'm at 1043 so far this week I believe.
OMG! going into the final day of NJ my 3 picks are ranked 1, 2, 3!!!
and in my league, im the only one right now with alliance captains lol
Chris is me
07-03-2010, 08:28
I want to change the win / loss point system now that we've got the serious possibility of teams playing 6v0 matches.
Can the alliance with the most seeding points get the "win"? Tie is still 1 point? Or should I not pick colluders?
*shrugs*
I want to change the win / loss point system now that we've got the serious possibility of teams playing 6v0 matches.
Can the alliance with the most seeding points get the "win"? Tie is still 1 point? Or should I not pick colluders?
*shrugs*
I thought we already agreed to dump the W-L system because it wouldn't work this year.
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 9 done so far, 2 more to go.
Here are the issues I've run into so far:
GA standings are missing.
SD is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
KC is missing team for WFFA
NJ will wait 'till tomorrow.
ROC is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
OR is missing team for WFFA
High score is a pain to determine as it is no longer listed as part of the standings.
At FLR the WFA was from 1241
The two Dean's List winners were from 578 and 3015.
Chris is me
07-03-2010, 09:46
I thought we already agreed to dump the W-L system because it wouldn't work this year.
Well, I thought we were giving 2 points to whoever gets the Coopertition Bonus. Since there are 6v0 matches galore, the CB winner doesn't matter iether anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, I thought we were giving 2 points to whoever gets the Coopertition Bonus. Since there are 6v0 matches galore, the CB winner doesn't matter iether anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, we may have to change that.
You're most likely gonna see more 6 vs. 0 matches as the season goes on.
Chris is me
07-03-2010, 10:19
I'm trying to think of "creative" ways to preserve the current amount of points for "winners". Right now, 10 matches will get you a #1 seed with around 110 SP. Perhaps divide the SP by 11, multiply result by 2 to assign points? Or some similar algorithm for seed...
I'm trying to think of "creative" ways to preserve the current amount of points for "winners". Right now, 10 matches will get you a #1 seed with around 110 SP. Perhaps divide the SP by 11, multiply result by 2 to assign points? Or some similar algorithm for seed...
Oh geez your using math.
I never touched the stuff myself.:o
SD WFFA is from 696, if I recall.
Dargel1625
07-03-2010, 18:47
WFFA for KC was from 1777 if I remember correctly..
WFFA for OR was given to a mentor who works with both 1510 and their sister team 2898
WFFA for OR was given to a mentor who works with both 1510 and their sister team 2898
Do you know which team wrote the essay?
Vikesrock
09-03-2010, 00:31
I've added scores for NJ and the WFFA's posted int his thread and fixed a few errors I found.
Right now the Oregon WFFA is listed for both teams.
San Diego is still missing Dean's List
I've added scores for NJ and the WFFA's posted int his thread and fixed a few errors I found.Did you catch the double EI in Kansas City?
Vikesrock
09-03-2010, 00:59
Did you catch the double EI in Kansas City?
Yep, that was one that I noticed. I added a "totals" column at the bottom of each sheet that makes that type of error easy to catch.
GA is still empty and I'm pretty busy the rest of tonight and tomorrow, plus with no standings I'm not sure what we want to do with that one at the moment anyway.
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.
Without San Diego (Dean's List), Peachtree (standings), and Oregon (late and I need to be alert tomorrow morning), the current rankings are:
TheLoneAsian 921
Vikesrock 889
Jamie Kalb 854
RMiller 843
Akash Rastogi 818
Koko Ed 805
EricH 783
jblay 763
rocketperson44 753
Bethany Mc. 745
XaulZan11 735
hill 733
Chris is me 724
Alex Cormier 721
Dargel1625 721
dodar 709
Sunbun 664
bobwrit 661
rtfgnow 652
sunger92 620
jmanela 606
Barry Bonzack 557
Someone go tell Barry to get his missing teams figured out--and tell TheLoneAsian to fix that absent Chesapeake alliance, as well as reminding all the folks on that last list I posted that they've got missing teams.
I'll put the full spreadsheet up after I get back to school from the Arizona Regional.
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.
Without San Diego (Dean's List), Peachtree (standings), and Oregon (late and I need to be alert tomorrow morning), the current rankings are:
TheLoneAsian 921
Vikesrock 889
Jamie Kalb 854
RMiller 843
Akash Rastogi 818
Koko Ed 805
EricH 783
jblay 763
rocketperson44 753
Bethany Mc. 745
XaulZan11 735
hill 733
Chris is me 724
Alex Cormier 721
Dargel1625 721
dodar 709
Sunbun 664
bobwrit 661
rtfgnow 652
sunger92 620
jmanela 606
Barry Bonzack 557
Someone go tell Barry to get his missing teams figured out--and tell TheLoneAsian to fix that absent Chesapeake alliance, as well as reminding all the folks on that last list I posted that they've got missing teams.
I'll put the full spreadsheet up after I get back to school from the Arizona Regional.
Everybody better enjoy the view of Barry at the bottom of the standings.
He won't be there very long.
You're right about that, Ed. He's now 2nd from the bottom after I got Oregon scored.
Also, some folks are going to be hurting if they don't change teams out for Week 2.
TheLoneAsian 945
Vikesrock 937
RMiller 934
EricH 930
Jamie Kalb 906
Akash Rastogi 869
Koko Ed 856
Dargel1625 836
jblay 817
hill 815
Bethany Mc. 815
Alex Cormier 809
XaulZan11 791
bobwrit 782
rocketperson44 779
Chris is me 776
dodar 740
Sunbun 729
sunger92 708
rtfgnow 700
Barry Bonzack 653
jmanela 639
Jamie Kalb
09-03-2010, 23:51
Dang. If I had picked 100 when I had the chance and not dropped my last-round pick 2543 at SD, I'd be 109 points higher right now and solidly in 1st place. :mad: 100 and 2543 went for 62 and 85 points, respectively, and my replacements only brought in 38 points total.
Dang. If I had picked 100 when I had the chance and not dropped my last-round pick 2543 at SD, I'd be 109 higher right now and solidly in 1st place. :mad: 100 and 2543 went for 62 and 85 points, respectively, and my replacements only brought in 38 points total.
I still haven't gone through SD yet--we're missing the Dean's List teams. If someone was there, and knows which teams the students were on, we'd kind of appreciate it if they could post the teams.
And I've got 1538, 1622, and 668, better known as 146 points.:D
Jamie Kalb
10-03-2010, 00:19
And I've got 1538, 1622, and 668, better known as 146 points.:D
Um, I have 668 ... and you're in my league. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=931238#post931238
But I'd be glad to take your 115 instead - they scored 37 points to 668's 24. :rolleyes:
Um, I have 668 ... and you're in my league. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=931238#post931238
But I'd be glad to take your 115 instead - they scored 37 points to 668's 24. :rolleyes:
Doggone it, you're right. Means that I've got about 13 more points than I thought in SD...
Vikesrock
10-03-2010, 00:25
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The standings from Peachtree last year were never reposted after they disappeared at the end of the event. We managed to get them because SOAP Gameday had them cached (they were up when the event was happening each year).
Jamie Kalb
10-03-2010, 00:27
Doggone it, you're right. Means that I've got about 13 more points than I thought in SD...
Does this move you up into 2nd place? Wow... and you're only trailing by 2 points? Me and my big mouth... :rolleyes:
I wouldn't hold my breath. The standings from Peachtree last year were never reposted after they disappeared at the end of the event. We managed to get them because SOAP Gameday had them cached (they were up when the event was happening each year).
If we have to, we might be able to recreate them from TBA. Or put the word out to the folks who were there to see if they can get us the info. (Makes note to self to get someone to note the stuff for Arizona.)
Alex Cormier
10-03-2010, 08:39
If I have a problem with my lists, I'll take a random from here on out.
XaulZan11
10-03-2010, 14:31
If I have a problem with my lists, I'll take a random from here on out.
Me too, unless I post something (which is doubtful).
Do you know which team wrote the essay?
I do not know off the top of my head, but I will try to figure that out in the next couple of days and pass the information on once I know.
Carrington
11-03-2010, 15:53
Unless I post anything i'll take random.
Bethany Mc.
14-03-2010, 12:01
I would also like to take a random team if I am missing one.
ATannahill
14-03-2010, 17:00
Whoever is sorting out the points, I don't think the Rookie Inspiration Award at Cass Tech went to 1718. Do we have any better information?
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 00:46
Whoever is sorting out the points, I don't think the Rookie Inspiration Award at Cass Tech went to 1718. Do we have any better information?
Imagery is also wrong for Cass Tech, for now I've guessed that Imagery was supposed to be 3119.
I've posted the sheet for this week with Israel missing and the two issues listed above.
Imagery is also wrong for Cass Tech, for now I've guessed that Imagery was supposed to be 3119.
I've posted the sheet for this week with Israel missing and the two issues listed above.
Kevin, 3362 was a finalist, not winner at Wisconsin and 2506 was a finalist as well (they subbed in for 3362 when they broke down).
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 01:07
Kevin, 3362 was a finalist, not winner at Wisconsin and 2506 was a finalist as well (they subbed in for 3362 when they broke down).
Whoops! Fixed that, I'll post the update sheet now.
Akash Rastogi
15-03-2010, 01:11
Whoops! Fixed that, I'll post the update sheet now.
Does the sheet include the total score of each player?
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 01:13
Does the sheet include the total score of each player?
Nope, all I did (and what I did last year as well) was go through each event and tabulate scores for each team.
Eric has been the one taking that data and calculating scores for each player. I plan on adding up my score for the week shortly, I can edit into this post if you want to add up yours and have something to compare it to (note that I was way off when I calculated my score last week)
EDIT: I get 1178 for my score this week with every event but Israel
Does the sheet include the total score of each player?
That's my job... I'll have that up tomorrow, hopefully. Along with the current crop of who has stuff to replace in Week 3... (Like your third St. Louis pick, Akash.)
Akash Rastogi
15-03-2010, 01:17
That's my job... I'll have that up tomorrow, hopefully. Along with the current crop of who has stuff to replace in Week 3... (Like your third St. Louis pick, Akash.)
Ah thanks.
I think the reason you were way off last week was that I didn't run the numbers for the regionals that we're missing data in. That results in everyone's score being lower.
When I get time, I'll try to run down some of that data (SD Dean's List teams; Peachtree standings), unless someone beats me to it.
Edit: With Pitt, Wisconsin, and NYC scored (as the only events without missing teams that I'll have to replace), the scores are:
Player Grand total
Vikesrock 1227
Koko Ed 1212
EricH 1203
TheLoneAsian 1203
Chris is me 1177
dodar 1158
Jamie Kalb 1149
Akash Rastogi 1143
jblay 1137
Dargel1625 1125
RMiller 1108
Bethany Mc. 1106
XaulZan11 1077
Sunbun 1044
Alex Cormier 1019
Barry Bonzack 1018
rocketperson44 1012
sunger92 1007
hill 1002
rtfgnow 975
bobwrit 972
jmanela 784Also, I forgot to tell Vikesrock that the Arizona Regional had 2 12-point matches, both involving 359. The qual match is counted right now (Q42, 12-4, 359, 1798, 3194); QF1-2 ended up 12-4 with 330, 359, and 2403 on the high end, and will be counted for the teams on that alliance that don't already have it as well.
Edit 2: 359 won RCA at Arizona, not 3170. This makes 359 worth 140 for that event...
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 12:40
Also, I forgot to tell Vikesrock that the Arizona Regional had 2 12-point matches, both involving 359. The qual match is counted right now (Q42, 12-4, 359, 1798, 3194); QF1-2 ended up 12-4 with 330, 359, and 2403 on the high end, and will be counted for the teams on that alliance that don't already have it as well.
Edit 2: 359 won RCA at Arizona, not 3170. This makes 359 worth 140 for that event...
I have been counting High Score as quals only, that is the way it was done last year as well as it was taken directly off the standings last year.
I can go back and redo things if we want to include elims for figuring out the high score.
Also, Peachtree standings reappeared at some point so I will score that up and post back when I have the sheet updated.
Nah, let's leave eliminations out of it if you've been leaving them out. It's only 5 points/team.
Looking forward to getting more events scored...
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 13:17
Peachtree scoring is done and posted. I posted in the SD regional thread to see if anyone can help with the Dean's List teams, other than that all we are missing is Rookie Inspiration and a confirmation on Imagery from Cass Tech.
I've seen the teams for SD Dean's List, so I'll put those into the sheet I have downloaded and finish up (other than Cass Tech) ASAP. Probably later tonight, hopefully not too late.
Week 2 scores without Israel and Cass Tech:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Grand total
Vikesrock 1151 1112 2263
Akash Rastogi 1199 782 1981
Chris is me 919 1040 1959
TheLoneAsian 1121 810 1931
EricH 1150 743 1893
hill 950 940 1890
Sunbun 1001 835 1836
Jamie Kalb 1116 715 1831
rtfgnow 1013 775 1788
Dargel1625 986 758 1744
bobwrit 918 817 1735
RMiller 1074 661 1735
dodar 903 822 1725
Barry Bonzack 912 809 1721
sunger92 868 846 1714
Bethany Mc. 1009 698 1707
XaulZan11 1025 626 1651
Koko Ed 1010 612 1622
jblay 1048 567 1615
Alex Cormier 943 588 1531
rocketperson44 915 486 1401
jmanela 707 508 1215
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 20:00
I just caught some errors in at least one event this week. I'll be looking through the others to make sure there aren't more.
At Chesapeake I accidentally marked both 1626 and 1748 as quarterfinalists.
At Wisconsin, I didn't credit 1018 as 13th seed.
At Cass Tech, 2851 was not credited as a semifinalist.
I apologize for the large number of errors this week, I implemented the totals row last week to help me check for things like this, but neglected to actually use it for many of the events as I scored them this week.
I've removed the errors from scoring. Have you found out the Cass Tech Imagery and Rookie Inspiration winners yet?
Vikesrock
15-03-2010, 21:04
I've removed the errors from scoring. Have you found out the Cass Tech Imagery and Rookie Inspiration winners yet?
I haven't even asked anyone/posted anywhere about that one yet.
Week 3 issues, which y'all have 2 days and a bit to fix:
Detroit: 2145 is not attending (rocketperson44, jblay)
Midwest: 1725 (jmanela) and 3032 (Jamie Kalb, Alex Cormier) are not attending
Boilermaker: 3127 is not attending (Sunbun, Chris is me)
St. Louis: The mess of the week. 1826 (rtfgnow), 1488 (dodar), 1658 (hill, rocketperson44), and 1805 (Alex Cormier) are not attending.
Dallas: 3417 (Ed), 2583 (rocketperson44), and 1642 (Alex Cormier) are not attending
Utah: dodar has a missing 2nd pick, the result of a double-pick.
If you think this week is bad, wait until you see Week 4 and Palmetto...where a double-picked team is not attending.
Oh, and to all participants: Please remember that the Michigan State Championship will be drafting the Wednesday between Week 4 and Week 5.
Boilermaker: 3127 is not attending (Sunbun, Chris is me)
2856 for 3127.
ATannahill
17-03-2010, 19:35
Did we ever get a list of awards for the Isreal Regional?
ATannahill
17-03-2010, 19:40
St. Louis: 1826 (rtfgnow)
Someone messed up somewhere, I have 1806 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79410&page=2). My picks are good.
Chris is me
17-03-2010, 19:41
I'd like to petition to completely remove the Israel Regional from the draft, considering how it went down.
Vikesrock
17-03-2010, 19:44
I'd like to petition to completely remove the Israel Regional from the draft, considering how it went down.
I actually had the same thought. If an accurate Awards list appears it may be usable, but I think seeding and tournament results are junk and W-L-T probably is as well.
I actually had the same thought. If an accurate Awards list appears it may be usable, but I think seeding and tournament results are junk and W-L-T probably is as well.
I think the same thing. Let's ditch the Israel draft for FF points. Unless Ed thinks otherwise, of course. They threw out an entire day of results...
Alex, I've got the pick changed.
I think the same thing. Let's ditch the Israel draft for FF points. Unless Ed thinks otherwise, of course. They threw out an entire day of results...
Alex, I've got the pick changed.
They haven't even listed the awards for Israel yet.
Who knows if they ever will?
I say drop it.
This is your announcement that all Week 3 drafts are locked.
Week 4 issues:
Troy: 3175 (Chris is me, rocketperson44) is missing.
Los Angeles: 3395 (Koko Ed) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92, bobwrit) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar, jblay) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2445.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela, bobwrit) are missing.
Long Island: 806 (sunger92) and 3017 (jmanela, Chris is me) are missing.
Buckeye: 340 (bobwrit) and 2331 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 3188 (bobwrit) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2471.
Palmetto: 1563 (Chris is me, bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (Koko Ed, sunger92), and 2023 (Chris is me, XaulZan11, and TheLoneAsian) are missing.
It's going to be a long week on the randomizer next week, unless some of the above issues are taken care of. (I know who wants random; I'm just giving them time to respond if they want a non-random team.)
i cant find my Hawaii league
i cant find my Hawaii leaguehttp://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79498
Week 4 issues remaining:
Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92, bobwrit) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2445.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela, bobwrit) are missing.
Long Island: 806 (sunger92) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Buckeye: 340 (bobwrit) and 2331 (Alex Cormier) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 3188 (bobwrit) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2471.
Palmetto: 1563 (Chris is me, bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (sunger92), and 2023 (Chris is me, XaulZan11, and TheLoneAsian) are missing.
sunger92
19-03-2010, 00:15
From now on I'll just replace mine with the next team on the randomizer. Thanks.
Updated list of Week 4 issues remaining:
Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela) are missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay), 806 (sunger92), and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Buckeye: 2331 (Alex Cormier) is missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 2890 (TheLoneAsian) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (sunger92), and 2023 (XaulZan11 and TheLoneAsian) are missing.
Vikesrock
21-03-2010, 02:04
Initial scoring sheet for this week is up.
Here's what's missing right now:
Boilermaker Day 2 awards
St. Louis WFFA and Dean's List teams
Dallas WFFA Team 1108
Utah WFFA
In Detroit I assumed that the Excellence in Design listed for 67 was supposed to be the Industrial Design. The MI Districts don't give out the Excellence in Design and Industrial Design is blank.
Also, it looks like some teams didn't show up for Detroit that were on the team list.
The scores without Utah or St. Louis (missing awards info--WFFA, Dean's List):
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Grand total
Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1110 2972
Akash Rastogi 1199 872 813 2884
Vikesrock 1151 1178 511 2840
Chris is me 919 1163 673 2755
EricH 1150 873 699 2722
TheLoneAsian 1121 864 734 2719
hill 950 1083 652 2685
RMiller 1074 818 770 2662
Barry Bonzack 912 891 845 2648
Jamie Kalb 1116 826 651 2593
rtfgnow 1013 834 687 2534
Koko Ed 1010 724 798 2532
dodar 903 948 618 2469
XaulZan11 1025 761 678 2464
Dargel1625 986 835 571 2392
sunger92 868 933 513 2314
Sunbun 1001 882 426 2309
bobwrit 918 861 510 2289
jblay 1048 632 558 2238
Alex Cormier 943 630 550 2123
jmanela 707 547 677 1931
rocketperson44 915 595 383 1893
List of Week 4 issues remaining:
Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 2849 (jmanela) is missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), and 2023 (XaulZan11) are missing.
The current list is in the usual place at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317
Also, as a reminder: The Wednesday after Week 4 has the MI State Championship Draft. Start thinking about who you'd like...
Chris is me
21-03-2010, 15:53
I think we should double the value of Week 2 events. :D
148 saved me this week... Hope my Week 4 picks turned out okay. I forgot what events are going on, and without Looking Forward to tell me what's going on, it's a lot harder to keep up this year!
I think we should double the value of Week 2 events. :D
You don't want me catching you when Utah is scored?:p I've only got 97 points in there, and a pretty devastating 181 in St. Louis...Without the WFFA counted in either, or the St. Louis Dean's List...
BTW, if anybody knows the St. Louis or Utah WFFAs, or the St. Louis Dean's List, say something so I can score those events.
Vikesrock
22-03-2010, 00:00
Utah WFFA was from team 1566
One of the Dean's List teams in St. Louis was on 931.
List of Week 4 issues remaining:
Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 2849 (jmanela) is missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), and 2023 (XaulZan11) are missing.
Week 4 drafts lock tomorrow night.
Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)
Vikesrock
24-03-2010, 01:04
Toronto: 1310 (Vikesrock)
They still appear on the official team list....
They still appear on the official team list....
Woops! I missed 3190, held by Dargel1625, and got 1310 instead. Editing appropriately.
Week 4 drafts are now locked. Not happy with getting random teams? Look at the list below, and see which teams you need to replace.
Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)
Barry Bonzack
25-03-2010, 00:17
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)
I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?
Chris is me
25-03-2010, 00:56
I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?
Pick 6-7 and 4-6-9...
I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?
Is the sky blue? Also see the teams whose strategy raises an uproar: Las Guerrillas and Wings of Fire (469 and 51).
Vikesrock's score sheet is posted at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2344; I've been using it a LOT for multi-event teams to see if I want to keep them or not. It'll tell you at a glance which team won what...
Week 4 is done, so it's time to look forwards to Week 5. I'll be doing the random thing tomorrow or Monday, so if you want a specific replacement, get that in before I go to the lists.
Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)
Vikesrock
28-03-2010, 01:44
I really don't feel like doing any of the team scoring tonight, I should be able to get it done by tomorrow afternoon sometime.
I really don't feel like doing any of the team scoring tonight, I should be able to get it done by tomorrow afternoon sometime.
Maybe Colorado will be up by then.
I've also found the following missing info: Waterloo Dean's List, Buckeye WFFA and Dean's List, Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List, Palmetto Dean's List , and we're still missing WFFA and 1 Dean's List from St. Louis.
Vikesrock
28-03-2010, 18:57
I'll be uploading the preliminary sheet for this week in just a moment.
Colorado is missing as final standings and Day 2 awards aren't up. The only other issue that Eric hasn't already pointed out is no Autodesk award for LI, but it may be that is was actually not awarded.
Colorado is missing as final standings and Day 2 awards aren't up. The only other issue that Eric hasn't already pointed out is no Autodesk award for LI, but it may be that is was actually not awarded.
I spotted the LI missing award, but figured the same thing.
CO standings are in the regional thread (unofficial, but close enough), along with some of the selections and results. Not nearly enough to do much with, for now.
Week 5 issues remaining:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian) are missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)
Scoring status: All the regionals we've got full data on are scored, as is Long Island. We're working on some of the Colorado information.
Palmetto Dean's List: 2430 and 281 are the teams that got that.
Waterloo Dean's List: 1310 and 1535 are the teams for this event.
Week 5 issues remaining after the known random team assignments:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar) is missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) is missing.
10K Lakes: 3197 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) is missing.
MI State Championship draft: Wednesday, 7:00PM Eastern. Team list is on the FIRST site and still being filled. If it's full tomorrow night, I'll get the random list out then. (Last I checked, 49/64 slots were full.)
Scoring status: I've gotten Dean's List info for Palmetto and Waterloo; still waiting on Buckeye and Oklahoma City Dean's List and WFFA. I've also got a request in for that in St. Louis. Will post the sheet when I've got another couple events or so.
Palmetto Dean's List: 2430, 281
Waterloo Dean's List: 1310, 1535
Special Note: Sacramento starts earlier than the other events, so it'll lock tomorrow night at midnight. All other events will lock at the normal time.
MI State Championship draft: Wednesday, 7:00PM Eastern. Team list is on the FIRST site and still being filled. If it's full tomorrow night, I'll get the random list out then. (Last I checked, 49/64 slots were full.)
I think there are only supposed to be 49 teams for the Michigan State championships this time around (much more reasonable in my opinion. There wasn't enough room in that building for 64 teams).
ATannahill
30-03-2010, 10:08
I'm guessing Colorado is still missing.
I'm guessing Colorado is still missing.
Yep. All we've got is a partial eliminations list, the standings, and the Day 1 awards. (See the Colorado Regional thread.)
Ed, I looked up the number that was supposed to be there according to FiM. It's 64 in their documentation. Unless they're largely operating under last year's, I'll expect 64 teams to be there--49 barely covers winners at the district events. (As in, 42 win-your-way and 7 points qualifiers, if there are no repeats.)
Edit: I just looked, and MSC is up to 59 teams. 5 more, and the tiers and random list get released.
ATannahill
30-03-2010, 17:57
The Colorado information is now up.
Unless you count the elimination rounds, that is...
All right, folks, here's the lowdown for the rest of the week:
Sacramento locks in half an hour. (Matches start tomorrow.)
Michigan State Championship drafts tomorrow night at 7 PM Eastern. I'll be running it, so get your lists in when you get the time. I'll get the tiers and stuff like that out tomorrow morning sometime. (Currently, only 61/64 teams are signed up.)
All other lists (including Michigan) lock tomorrow night at midnight Eastern. The remaining issues are:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar) is missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) is missing.
10K Lakes: 3197 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) is missing.
Scoring is still waiting on Dean's List and/or WFFA teams from Buckeye, Oklahoma, and St. Louis, and the eliminations/Day 2 match scores from Colorado. If you know someone who was at those events, please see if they remember those kinds of things--we'd like to make sure that all the teams get the points they deserve. (And, for those of you at events this weekend, please note down that info just in case FIRST doesn't.)
Barry Bonzack
31-03-2010, 00:03
in DT1 2851 is being scored for both Finals and Semi
Fixed the score.
Sacramento is now locked.
Vikesrock
31-03-2010, 00:08
in DT1 2851 is being scored for both Finals and Semi
:ahh:
I'll go through and check scoring for all the events, that was an error I should have caught.
Vikesrock
31-03-2010, 01:09
So apparently the Totals row works better when I actually use it :rolleyes:
Washington DC: 116 not credited for Autodesk award
Bayou: 364 not credited for Quarterfinals
Wisconsin: 2506 incorrectly credited with Quarterfinals
Dallas: 2864 should be Semifinalist not Quarterfinalist
Detroit: 903 not credited for Quarterfinalist
With 62 teams out of 64, I figure that if someone finds a team they want that isn't shown as attending, link to their team info page to say they're there.
Random list:
70
3234
2145
33
1528
2337
245
815
3302
123
51
2834
2612
2771
217
2075
548
573
397
226
1243
894
85
830
1023
2960
910
288
2048
2137
27
469
2851
2246
703
247
2054
2474
Clang. Click.
That was the Week 5 drafts locking. So, we're home free, right?
Wrong. Once the events are done and the last WFFA/Dean's List winner is tracked down, we'll post up the scores and standings. Then it's time for the big one: The Championship. Date/Time: TBD. Stay tuned
Now, I've got a question on format, and some other folks here do too. Are we going to do:
One big 4-round draft, all teams up for grabs, or
4 divisional drafts, going to 4 rounds (we can do it, provided that there isn't a sub-88-team division).This obviously has implications on time set aside and how the random teams list is done.
i think we should go by divisions
Akash Rastogi
01-04-2010, 11:53
Divisional
I want four divisional drafts please.
I think it'll be so cool!
Dargel1625
01-04-2010, 18:49
I think divisional drafts would be much better than one big draft.
All of the data for Colorado is now up on FIRST's website.
All of the data for Colorado is now up on FIRST's website.
Yeah, I got it. Should have that one scored in a couple of hours.
Consensus: 4 divisional drafts, 3-4 rounds apiece.
Next question: How many days do we want this to take? We can do 2/day for 2 days, all of them on the same day, or spread them out at 1/day for 4 days, or some other combination. Anybody want to comment on a preferred method?
Jamie Kalb
01-04-2010, 21:40
Next question: How many days do we want this to take? We can do 2/day for 2 days, all of them on the same day, or spread them out at 1/day for 4 days, or some other combination. Anybody want to comment on a preferred method?
I kind of like spacing them out and having 1 per day for 4 days, but I'm fine with the other options, too.
anything but all 4 in one day lol
If the divisions are up I say do a draft on Friday. Two on Saturday and one on Sunday next week and get them over with. Divisions are nothing more than large regionals anyways. It's no big deal.
All we need to do before then is establish the final rankings for the Elgin Clock award and draft order and also rank the teams going to Atlanta before the drafts.
All we need to do before then is establish the final rankings for the Elgin Clock award and draft order and also rank the teams going to Atlanta before the drafts.
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1 Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut, 1 Dean's List.
(St. Louis, 931 has 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1014 has 1 Dean's List; CT, 230 has 1 Dean's List).
If anyone knows any of those, please share!
Chris is me
04-04-2010, 13:34
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and Dean's List; Buckeye Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut Dean's List.
If anyone knows any of those, please share!
CT's Dean's List winners were announced, but the teams the students were from were not announced.
CT's Dean's List winners were announced, but the teams the students were from were not announced.
Can you ask around a bit and find the other one? I found the one from 230 just by poking around CD (ditto for the WFFA at that event).
Jamie Kalb
04-04-2010, 16:29
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1 Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut, 1 Dean's List.
I believe OKC WFFA went to 1750. Still trying to confirm that...
Vikesrock
04-04-2010, 21:43
I believe OKC WFFA went to 1750. Still trying to confirm that...
Not sure if this is where you got it from, but this post seems to link Ron to 1750:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=723328&postcount=24
Sheet for this week will be up very shortly.
Missing info for all weeks is what Eric posted a few posts above.
Jamie Kalb
04-04-2010, 23:26
Not sure if this is where you got it from, but this post seems to link Ron to 1750:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=723328&postcount=24
I asked some people who were there, who gave me Ron Markum's name and thought he was with 1750. I then tried the CD member search for 1750, hoping to find someone who listed team awards in their signature. Instead, I found a certain "ronmarkum." :)
I can now confirm:
OKC WFFA: Ron Markum team 1750
OKC Deans list: Ty Prather team 1750, Johnathan Yarbrough team 2431
Thanks, Jamie.
I'm working on St. Louis through a 931 alumnus at my college. We'll see what he comes up with in a couple of days.
All right, so here's the deal.
I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing) and Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.
However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.
As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Grand total
1. Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1246 1230 1302 5640
2. Barry Bonzack 912 891 991 1352 1135 5281
3. Vikesrock 1155 1178 599 1260 814 5006
4. RMiller 1076 818 872 1194 902 4862
5. Akash Rastogi 1199 868 937 950 808 4762
6. hill 950 1083 806 850 935 4624
7. 1121 864 819 786 968 4558
8. 1150 873 796 935 787 4541
9. 1118 826 792 1009 760 4505
10. 903 948 708 1185 710 4454
11. 919 1143 791 1022 536 4411
12. 1025 761 729 1047 735 4297
13. 1013 834 785 932 689 4253
14. 1012 724 898 938 676 4248
15. 986 835 726 962 735 4244
16. 918 861 545 897 953 4174
17. 868 933 656 1016 626 4099
18. 1001 882 560 914 720 4077
19. 943 630 636 1143 644 3996
20. 1048 628 635 1014 669 3994
21. rocketperson44 915 595 467 811 578 3366
22. jmanela 707 547 834 738 447 3273I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.
Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.
Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...
Edit: Scoring CT produced little to no change in rankings. 2 drafts left...
Chris is me
05-04-2010, 17:26
The other CT Dean's List winner was from 177.
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?
Vikesrock
05-04-2010, 17:37
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?
Everyone is still part of the Champs drafts, the removed names are the ones that Eric thinks are likely to shift up or down in the rankings when the last 3 events are added in.
Chris is me
05-04-2010, 17:40
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?
The others are "too close to call".
All right, so here's the deal.
I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing), Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing), and Connecticut (1 Dean's List missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.
However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.
As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Grand total
1. Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1246 1230 1175 5513
2. Barry Bonzack 912 891 991 1352 1039 5185
3. Vikesrock 1155 1178 599 1260 762 4954
4. RMiller 1076 818 872 1194 814 4774
5. Akash Rastogi 1199 868 937 950 731 4685
6. 950 1083 806 850 779 4468
7. 1150 873 796 935 696 4450
8. 1118 826 792 1009 702 4447
9. 1121 864 819 786 846 4436
10. 903 948 708 1185 661 4405
11. 919 1143 791 1022 454 4329
12. 1025 761 729 1047 681 4243
13. 1012 724 898 938 633 4205
14. 1013 834 785 932 542 4106
15. 986 835 726 962 594 4103
16. 868 933 656 1016 579 4052
17. 1001 882 560 914 667 4024
18. 918 861 545 897 789 4010
19. 1048 628 635 1014 625 3950
20. 943 630 636 1143 579 3931
21. rocketperson44 915 595 467 811 509 3297
22. jmanela 707 547 834 738 393 3219
I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.
Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.
Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...
Congrats to Bethy!
I think we may now know who the real brains of the outfit are between Barry and Bethy though Barry closed in fast after a slow start as I had predicted. Who knows what would have happened if there was a sixth week of regionals?
Who knows what would have happened if there was a sixth week of regionals?
Bethany by 300 or more, still. That's my guess. Her low lead over him was 60 points after Week 2...
Also, confirming that everyone participates in the Championship draft, but exact order varies by as little as 2 points. 2 points is easy to gain or lose...
The rankings have been updated to reflect CT.
All right, so here's the deal.
I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing) and Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.
However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.
As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Grand total
1. Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1246 1230 1302 5640
2. Barry Bonzack 912 891 991 1352 1135 5281
3. Vikesrock 1155 1178 599 1260 814 5006
4. RMiller 1076 818 872 1194 902 4862
5. Akash Rastogi 1199 868 937 950 808 4762
6. hill 950 1083 806 850 935 4624
7. 1121 864 819 786 968 4558
8. 1150 873 796 935 787 4541
9. 1118 826 792 1009 760 4505
10. 903 948 708 1185 710 4454
11. 919 1143 791 1022 536 4411
12. 1025 761 729 1047 735 4297
13. 1013 834 785 932 689 4253
14. 1012 724 898 938 676 4248
15. 986 835 726 962 735 4244
16. 918 861 545 897 953 4174
17. 868 933 656 1016 626 4099
18. 1001 882 560 914 720 4077
19. 943 630 636 1143 644 3996
20. 1048 628 635 1014 669 3994
21. rocketperson44 915 595 467 811 578 3366
22. jmanela 707 547 834 738 447 3273I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.
Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.
Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...
Edit: Scoring CT produced little to no change in rankings. 2 drafts left...
St Louis WFFA looks to be team 1444. See team website/google search of "Roger Seifert" robotics.
Which Dean's List winners are you unsure of? At St. Louis, Elena Wylie is from team 931 and Andrew Amburgey is from team 1094.
St Louis WFFA looks to be team 1444. See team website/google search of "Roger Seifert" robotics.
Which Dean's List winners are you unsure of? At St. Louis, Elena Wylie is from team 931 and Andrew Amburgey is from team 1094.
I knew about Elena from a 931 alumnus at my college. Didn't know which team Andrew was from, though.
Off to score the event...
Still missing who from Ohio? Mr. Bliss?
Still missing who from Ohio? Mr. Bliss?
I've got WFFA (Joe Jeswald, 379) and team 1014 having one of the Dean's List finalists. I don't have the other team.
Barry Bonzack
06-04-2010, 14:18
Worst to (almost) first!
Congrats Bethany, why on earth did I convince you to play?
Just had a thought. Does this mean there is no MVP Rookie award this year?
Does everyone feel that letting the top scorers pick first for all 4 championship divisions is fair? What if one division was reverse order, this division could be decided by Bethany.
I've got WFFA (Joe Jeswald, 379) and team 1014 having one of the Dean's List finalists. I don't have the other team.
Hmm... I am not finding anything at the moment. More looking later. Can you score the event without that Dean's List finalist and see if it could potentially change anything?
Hmm... I am not finding anything at the moment. More looking later. Can you score the event without that Dean's List finalist and see if it could potentially change anything?
I'll give it a runthrough in a little while and we'll see how the scores fall.
Kellen Hill
06-04-2010, 15:22
I also kinda think it's goofy to have one person get the top choice for every single division. Bethany deserves some sort of advantage for kicking butt during the regional season, but I feel like the top 4 choices might be a little much.
Of course, I won't complain too much if it does work that way since I am somewhat towards the top of the rankings...
All right, still missing that Dean's List in Buckeye, but it isn't going to make a difference--nobody's within 4 points of anybody else.
That said, here are the rankings, weekly scores, and total score:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Grand total
Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1402 1278 1302 5844
Barry Bonzack 912 891 1159 1380 1135 5477
Vikesrock 1155 1178 712 1388 814 5247
RMiller 1076 818 977 1353 902 5126
Akash Rastogi 1199 868 1007 1071 808 4953
hill 950 1083 920 970 935 4858
EricH 1150 873 981 1023 787 4814
TheLoneAsian 1121 864 908 810 968 4671
Jamie Kalb 1118 826 882 1070 760 4656
Chris is me 919 1143 967 1051 536 4616
rtfgnow 1013 834 927 1101 689 4564
dodar 903 948 765 1217 710 4543
XaulZan11 1025 761 869 1144 735 4534
Koko Ed 1012 724 969 1064 676 4445
Dargel1625 986 835 802 995 735 4353
bobwrit 918 861 638 953 953 4323
jblay 1048 628 810 1157 669 4312
sunger92 868 933 819 1059 626 4305
Sunbun 1001 882 650 983 720 4236
Alex Cormier 943 630 680 1173 644 4070
rocketperson44 915 595 545 893 578 3526
jmanela 707 547 936 770 447 3407
Now, the discussion of what advantage the regular-season winner gets: How about a top-5 pick in every division, except a reverse-order division determined by said winner?
All right, still missing that Dean's List in Buckeye, but it isn't going to make a difference--nobody's within 4 points of anybody else.
That said, here are the rankings, weekly scores, and total score:
Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Grand total
Bethany Mc. 1009 853 1402 1278 1302 5844
Barry Bonzack 912 891 1159 1380 1135 5477
Vikesrock 1155 1178 712 1388 814 5247
RMiller 1076 818 977 1353 902 5126
Akash Rastogi 1199 868 1007 1071 808 4953
hill 950 1083 920 970 935 4858
EricH 1150 873 981 1023 787 4814
TheLoneAsian 1121 864 908 810 968 4671
Jamie Kalb 1118 826 882 1070 760 4656
Chris is me 919 1143 967 1051 536 4616
rtfgnow 1013 834 927 1101 689 4564
dodar 903 948 765 1217 710 4543
XaulZan11 1025 761 869 1144 735 4534
Koko Ed 1012 724 969 1064 676 4445
Dargel1625 986 835 802 995 735 4353
bobwrit 918 861 638 953 953 4323
jblay 1048 628 810 1157 669 4312
sunger92 868 933 819 1059 626 4305
Sunbun 1001 882 650 983 720 4236
Alex Cormier 943 630 680 1173 644 4070
rocketperson44 915 595 545 893 578 3526
jmanela 707 547 936 770 447 3407
Now, the discussion of what advantage the regular-season winner gets: How about a top-5 pick in every division, except a reverse-order division determined by said winner?
I say number one all the way.
She earned it. Why take it away?
I say number one all the way.
She earned it. Why take it away?
Agreed.
How about she gets a 1, 2, 3, 4 vote like that in the 4 divisions but she can pick 1 division to switch the picking fofrom 1-8,8-1 to 1-8, 1-8
and the 1, 2, 3, 4 i mean like: Arch=1, Curie=2 Newton=3 Gal=4 or whatever
Kellen Hill
07-04-2010, 00:49
It would be odd to have anyone else have a first pick for any of the divisions I suppose, because Bethany was the only one to earn it. I agree with her getting first pick for each division. I am just scared of some of the picks the top players will get.
Bethany Mc.
08-04-2010, 07:05
Thank you thank you! I now feel justified in all those hours and late nights in front of the computer figuring out my pick list was going to be, and all the times I blew my family off for drafts.
Barry I do believe you asked me to join, so that we both did not have lives together. It was a way for us to have fun together. Score!
As for the draft picks I am down with one being in reverse ordr, and I can tell you which one I wouldnt mind switching. I know I earned it, but I would like to share my earnings with you all. I do not mind it one bit!
As this being my first season, I really enjoyed it! Thank you to everyone who has put in countless hours to make this event possible. I am sad to say I will not be in Atlanta, I recieved an award called the New Century Scholar, and I will be recieving the scholarship during Championships. Might I add, it is almost on the complete opposite side of the nation in Seattle, Washington.
I can not wait for next year!
Divisions are up!
Time to do a draft tomorrow night.
Archimedes looks like a good choice!
Divisions are up!
Time to do a draft tomorrow night.
Archimedes looks like a good choice!
From Bill's Blog (http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2010/04/too-good-to-wait.html)
THESE ASSIGNMENTS ARE NOT FINAL. Teams are still dropping out and signing up which continues to cause last minute changes. When the website goes live, you will be able to see the unofficial list here.
For those going to championships (I am not) when do you leave?
From past years, how fluid are the assignments? I guess that is an advantage for not doing all four divisions and rather one entire group.
I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.
I'm not going to CMP.
I would guess that the absolute latest a draft could be held would be Tuesday night, though--most teams/volunteers travel Wednesday. A few travel Tuesday.
If we run as late as possible, we'd be running two drafts on Sunday, one on Monday, and one on Tuesday. Still doesn't buy us much time.
Let's just go for it, with players checking their own teams on Tuesday night or Wednesday. If a team switches divisions, they'll have time to trade. All trades final Thursday AM when pits open (8:00 AM). (I'd say Thursday at noon, but that gives those that are there a slight advantage.)
From Bill's Blog (http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2010/04/too-good-to-wait.html)
For those going to championships (I am not) when do you leave?
From past years, how fluid are the assignments? I guess that is an advantage for not doing all four divisions and rather one entire group.
I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.
They're on the official site.
That's good enough for me.
I'm not going to CMP.
I would guess that the absolute latest a draft could be held would be Tuesday night, though--most teams/volunteers travel Wednesday. A few travel Tuesday.
If we run as late as possible, we'd be running two drafts on Sunday, one on Monday, and one on Tuesday. Still doesn't buy us much time.
Let's just go for it, with players checking their own teams on Tuesday night or Wednesday. If a team switches divisions, they'll have time to trade. All trades final Thursday AM when pits open (8:00 AM). (I'd say Thursday at noon, but that gives those that are there a slight advantage.)
I'm ;eaving Saturday morning and stopping for the night outside of Cincy then continuing to Atlanta Sunday morning.
I would like the drafts tackled during the weekend to give people time to trade or adjust their rosters as needed.
Vikesrock
08-04-2010, 17:47
I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.
How about if a team switches divisions, the player that owned them in the previous tier has 1st shot at them?
Maybe after one person posts a "claim" of the team, give the owner in the other division 24 hours or until teams lock, whichever comes first to "contest the claim". If the claim is contested the player that owned them in their original division gets the team?
How about if a team switches divisions, the player that owned them in the previous tier has 1st shot at them?
Maybe after one person posts a "claim" of the team, give the owner in the other division 24 hours or until teams lock, whichever comes first to "contest the claim". If the claim is contested the player that owned them in their original division gets the team?
I was thinking the same thing--owner gets shot #1 in the new tier, but if they decline to take it, the team is up for grabs.
Also, the CMP scoring is as follows:
Co-op bonus, 2 points
Loss, 0 points
Tie, 1 point
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points
5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners
40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field
80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
Dean's List: Unknown (at 10 winners, let's not do the WFFA / # recipients routine here.) Suggestion: 8 points
10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
Coopertition Award: Unknown Suggestion: 15 points
I was thinking the same thing--owner gets shot #1 in the new tier, but if they decline to take it, the team is up for grabs.
Also, the CMP scoring is as follows:
Co-op bonus, 2 points
Loss, 0 points
Tie, 1 point
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points
5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners
40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field
80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
Dean's List: Unknown (at 10 winners, let's not do the WFFA / # recipients routine here.) Suggestion: 8 points
10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
Coopertition Award: Unknown Suggestion: 15 points
Sounds good.
Can someone do me a favor and rank the Archimedes teams according to their FF scores this season?
Chris is me
08-04-2010, 18:55
Can we pretend the Coopertition Award doesn't exist? It's pretty redundant / stupid / not very different than #1 seed.
Sounds good.
Can someone do me a favor and rank the Archimedes teams according to their FF scores this season?
Average, total, or high?
Can we pretend the Coopertition Award doesn't exist? It's pretty redundant / stupid / not very different than #1 seed.
It's an award given out.
We'll keep it.
There's four number one seeds to choose from in Atlanta so someone will be the true number one seed.
Akash Rastogi
08-04-2010, 19:01
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?
Pretty sure Co-opertition is divisional. That's it.
Vikesrock
08-04-2010, 19:03
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?
Rookie Seed, Finalist and Winner are the only Division Awards listed in the Awards section of the manual
Ed, would you like that Archimedes team list sorted by average FF score, high FF score, or total FF score?
Ed, would you like that Archimedes team list sorted by average FF score, high FF score, or total FF score?
Average score please.
25
341
148
359
604
375
1987
1918
330
33
1124
254
1583
86
1519
118
71
997
1540
1629
1683
1772
3280
1612
2574
234
3256
1515
1111
45
3008
122
3411
3403
3157
1418
1730
1547
3357
2403
3360
190
103
70
1768
1647
1218
358
2062
1
3389
1503
201
3059
1817
180
176
3172
1622
3160
159
2753
1319
1153
2751
155
3196
233
326
527
2854
876
555
41
3025
329
236
1506
1596
2725
269
108
967
540
2420
25
341
148
359
604
375
1987
1918
330
33
1124
254
1583
86
1519
118
71
997
1540
1629
1683
1772
3280
1612
2574
234
3256
1515
1111
45
3008
122
3411
3403
3157
1418
1730
1547
3357
2403
3360
190
103
70
1768
1647
1218
358
2062
1
3389
1503
201
3059
1817
180
176
3172
1622
3160
159
2753
1319
1153
2751
155
3196
233
326
527
2854
876
555
41
3025
329
236
1506
1596
2725
269
108
967
540
2420
Thanks Eric!
Change in teams: Archimedes: 1241 in at #55 on the random list. 2725 not in any more (was #82). All other teams present and ready.
Akash Rastogi
09-04-2010, 17:29
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?
Archimedes is tonight.
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?
I'm going to do Curie tomorrow night at 7 which ought to be interesting since I'm starting my trip down to Atlanta but I'm stopping outside of Cincy. Unless my car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, My car or computer crashes or the hotel I booked lied to me and does not provide high speed internet I plan to run Curie tomorrow night.
Anyone care to do Galileo tomorrow and also provide me with the rankings for Curie?
Anyone care to do Galileo tomorrow and also provide me with the rankings for Curie?
Did I hear somebody calling me? I'll go ahead and do Galileo.
Curie rankings:
1114
2345
1732
2775
469
1538
1912
1511
1676
3284
27
624
2992
368
88
2410
171
111
1986
340
291
537
1421
2169
1306
296
931
1398
2612
1251
3186
2667
3405
3230
2557
2252
2337
115
191
573
141
2550
3234
1379
3142
2648
3271
830
3145
597
1764
3207
40
1334
126
138
1033
3299
75
386
832
231
692
816
192
2041
288
48
175
888
1649
2583
440
1126
1747
1980
223
1075
1391
237
388
1350
2865
2449
2630
3339
Note that 2630 and 3339 were in the Israel Regional and therefore had no score.
is it the same draft order in all 4 divisions?
is it the same draft order in all 4 divisions?
Yep.
Galileo sorted list:
1466
1086
2056
1714
230
1696
1717
2016
3138
188
217
2122
1735
1625
1771
694
78
271
100
63
1058
1305
433
2486
365
2130
503
1002
2036
3364
649
3006
2834
1983
228
79
1584
3352
2467
1517
2283
51
379
2990
2429
3204
263
2077
3164
548
56
1261
107
2437
1403
3158
3318
85
3310
2500
3132
1739
2839
348
3381
292
3335
744
2468
1259
1522
1816
900
648
702
2067
68
752
714
1446
2108
1474
1367
957
1577*
1657*
*Israel Regional--no score recorded
And here's the list for the last draft of the 2010 FF season, Newton:
1551
67
971
3123
343
1718
1902
1727
525
2377
706
1208
2465
2614
16
1073
2619
20
1592
2341
868
1922
294
910
2638
932
226
117
399
558
3038
1452
3306
585
2265
2506
2415
842
2771
3125
3161
829
801
461
612
337
342
308
1868
3168
102
125
3176
3231
1311
93
486
2102
647
281
3238
533
2164
177
2137
3128
1296
11
2534
668
151
178
116
772
2023
128
2424
2914
2757
120
2895
166
896
2497
2669*
3083*
*Israel--no recorded score
Tonight Ii will be in Atlanta at my sisters but I have no idea about their internet situation plus I have my computer killing nephew(if there's a virus to be found he will manage to download it to your computer) lurking about.
So who wants to take the hill?
I'll go for it, seeing as nobody else has stepped up.
Now that the last draft is over, this is your reminder: the divisional drafts lock Wednesday at midnight, so you have until then to make trades, figure out that your favorite team switched divisions and trade them, and all that sort of thing. Once the deadline passes, the only thing left is to wait for the scores...and watch the matches, of course!
I need to make awards for the MVP of Fantasy FIRST and the Rookie of the Year.
Can someone with access to the information let me know who was the top rated team and the highest rated rookie?
I need to make awards for the MVP of Fantasy FIRST and the Rookie of the Year.
Can someone with access to the information let me know who was the top rated team and the highest rated rookie?
1114 had 158 in Waterloo, 113 in Toronto, and 105 in Pittsburgh for the top rating (over 359).
Rookie is 3256, 96 in Sacramento (and another 28 in Silicon Valley), over 3123's 90 in DC.
1114 had 158 in Waterloo, 113 in Toronto, and 105 in Pittsburgh for the top rating (over 359).
Rookie is 3256, 96 in Sacramento (and another 28 in Silicon Valley), over 3123's 90 in DC.
I'm hardly surprised by 1114.
So long as they can get a Chairman's in Waterloo they're probably going to keep winning the FF MVP til they take the championship Chairman's home.
I'll have to look up 3256's website to find out what their logo is so I can get their award to them.
Matthew Bliss (missing Buckeye Dean's List winner) is from team 2172.
I think it's safe to say Barry ran away with the championship (341, 469. 217 and 67) but we should probably get it scored anyways to make sure.
Vikesrock
19-04-2010, 06:35
I think it's safe to say Barry ran away with the championship (341, 469. 217 and 67) but we should probably get it scored anyways to make sure.
I've got a ton of stuff going on right now, I will not be able to get this in a prompt manner. If anyone else wants to do it they are welcome to go for it. I've just been brute forcing the W-L-T by looking each team up on TBA and looking at their record for the event.
Vikesrock
26-05-2010, 00:00
Finally got a chance to do team scores for Champs. The new sheet will be posted in the usual place shortly.
After scoring Newton, Barry is indeed in first... but only by 20 points. Dargel1625 is in second; Chris is me is in third; nobody else has cracked 100 points.
More scoring to come over the next day or two...
FYI--Galileo, 1086 had Coopertition and 1577 picked up the second Judges' Award--neither was reflected in the results sheet.
If you think your teams got shortchanged on awards points, say something and we'll look it up to see if we missed something.
Oh, and with Galileo being scored, Barry's lead is down to 1 point--217, 1517, 1584 couldn't match up to Dargel's 1625, 503, 1403.
Vikesrock
26-05-2010, 15:25
Coopertition Awards were not listed anywhere on the website.
It looks like I did miss the judges award for both 1583 and 1577.
Coopertition Awards were not listed anywhere on the website.That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.
Current top 3: Barry, 221; Dargel, 220; Vikesrock, 187; Archimedes and Curie are unscored at this time.
ATannahill
26-05-2010, 16:00
That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.
Current top 3: Barry, 221; Dargel, 220; Vikesrock, 187; Archimedes and Curie are unscored at this time.
When I looked a few weeks ago there was only one and it was on the championship/einstein page.
Chris is me
27-05-2010, 00:41
That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.
They were definitely given out for each division. 1086, 2612, and then two others.
Vikesrock
27-05-2010, 00:51
They were definitely given out for each division. 1086, 2612, and then two others.
Based on the rankings it should be
Archimedes: 254
Curie: 2612
Galileo: 1086
Newton: 294
Based on the rankings it should be
Archimedes: 254
Curie: 2612
Galileo: 1086
Newton: 294
I'll go ahead and give those 4 the Coop Award points.
This also puts Barry in a 14-point hole, as Dargel had 294. But Barry has 469 and 341 still in his bag of tricks...
Well, that 14-point hole Barry was in has been eliminated; top 4 are now:
Barry, 342
Vikesrock, 334
Dargel1625, 302
Chris is me, 269
Nobody else is even breaking 200 at this point, with Curie scored. Archimedes should be scored tomorrow.
Chris is me
27-05-2010, 02:17
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.
When you have a world champion ahd a Chairman's award winner on our side you're pretty untouchable.
Vikesrock
27-05-2010, 12:24
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.
Yep, I quickly ran through scores for the top 4 and if I did it right, I did manage to keep it close though with less than 15 pts, between us for the Champs total.
Chris gained on Barry but not nearly enough.
Dargel got hammered by Archimedes and is in a distant 4th.
And the final results are:
Player CMP score After CMP score
Barry Bonzack 460 5937
Vikesrock 446 5693
Chris is me 412 5028
Dargel1625 348 4701
Bethany Mc. 291 6135
EricH 270 5084
dodar 259 4802
Akash Rastogi 247 5200
Jamie Kalb 233 4889
rocketperson44 215 3741
Sunbun 203 4439
TheLoneAsian 202 4873
RMiller 196 5322
rtfgnow 192 4756
jblay 191 4503
Alex Cormier 187 4257
sunger92 173 4478
bobwrit 172 4495
hill 165 5023
XaulZan11 160 4694
Koko Ed 156 4601
jmanela 141 3548I included the second column to show just how many points each player had through the entire season. Full sheet will be up shortly.
And the final results are:
Player CMP score After CMP score
Barry Bonzack 460 5937
Vikesrock 446 5693
Chris is me 412 5028
Dargel1625 348 4701
Bethany Mc. 291 6135
EricH 270 5084
dodar 259 4802
Akash Rastogi 247 5200
Jamie Kalb 233 4889
rocketperson44 215 3741
Sunbun 203 4439
TheLoneAsian 202 4873
RMiller 196 5322
rtfgnow 192 4756
jblay 191 4503
Alex Cormier 187 4257
sunger92 173 4478
bobwrit 172 4495
hill 165 5023
XaulZan11 160 4694
Koko Ed 156 4601
jmanela 141 3548I included the second column to show just how many points each player had through the entire season. Full sheet will be up shortly.
Wow.
I scored below rocketperson44 who didn't make a SINGLE PICK.
I am very depressed right now.:(
Chris is me
27-05-2010, 15:57
Wow.
I scored below rocketperson44 who didn't make a SINGLE PICK.
I am very depressed right now.:(
He got some shockingly good random picks in at least one of the drafts, most notably 3138. Plus you picked nearly every Chairman's threat who wasn't 341.
Barry Bonzack
29-05-2010, 18:04
Okay. I'm now going to say it. Worst (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=934272&postcount=326) to first (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=964160&postcount=487)!
Thanks everyone for another enjoyable season. Great work Eric and Ed for running the drafts, and Kevin for helping with the scoring.
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