DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

[Greg Needel]

http://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/

To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA has announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that will explore the role the Internet and social networking plays in the timely communication, wide area team-building and urgent mobilization required to solve broad scope, time-critical problems.

The challenge is to be the first to submit the locations of ten moored, 8 foot, red weather balloons located at ten fixed locations in the continental United States. Balloons will be in readily accessible locations and visible from nearby roadways.


With the network of Team in the US I think there is a very easy chance we could win this. 40k, Perhaps if we win we could give the money to FIRST to re-grant to some teams in need. Or split it amongst the teams that helped find the balloons.

Announcement October 29, 2009
Registration Opens December 1, 2009
Balloons Launched December 5, 2009
Submission Deadline December 14, 2009

[rsisk]

If we can figure out the Game Hints each year, this should be a cake walk.

[ATannahill]

I am game, it seems that there will be ten red balloons displayed for one day that we have to find. I wonder how good the satellite setting of google maps would be? Do they update daily?

[big1boom]

Sounds pretty cool.

Balloons will be in the air for 1 day only.

[Travis Covington]

What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?

[Eugene Fang]

I wonder how good the satellite setting of google maps would be? Do they update daily?

I believe they don't update images even close to daily.

[dqmot17]

I believe they don't update images even close to daily.
I believe they don't even update them once their done. They're still trying to get it finished.

[Travis Hoffman]

Where's Tyler Hansbrough when you need him? He's good at using social networks to find dogs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEInSyTHcpc); stationary balloons would be a piece of cake. :)

[Greg Needel]

Join the facebook group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163627713147

[keehun]

What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?

I think this is a very important question..

[BrendanB]

What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?

They might have already thought of this in some respects. Like they have certain balloons with some symbol on them. They could probably sue you if they found out that you did this. As much as $40,000 sounds like fun, I don't think I'll risk it.

Wouldn't it be funny if they put one in the Manchester millyards.;)

[dtengineering]

If we can figure out the Game Hints each year, this should be a cake walk.

I agree 100%. Mind you, I mostly agree because of the success rate on figuring out game hints.

This is a hugely complex challenge... satellite survelliance isn't likely to be enough, as a tethered balloon can easily disappear under cloud cover... so even if you were to have daily updated images you'd likely still have a challenge ahead of you.

But that's kind of the point, isn't it?

Jason

[David Brinza]

If we can figure out the Game Hints each year, this should be a cake walk.

I agree 100%. Mind you, I mostly agree because of the success rate on figuring out game hints.

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Jason
Oh yeah, the "Opah" game hint was SO obvious (as soon as we saw the regolith), right?

What about this: enlist FedEx Ground truck drivers to participate. If Team FedEx wins, proceeds go towards FIRST robot shipping?

**Duh! Per the rules: Corporations or other organizations may not submit entries.

[rsisk]

`What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?

It's in the rules

Balloons will be in readily accessible locations, visible from nearby roadways and accompanied by DARPA representatives.

So they would have to spoof the DARPA rep as well :eek:

[David Brinza]

What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?Hey, those kind of thoughts lead to thick rulebooks!;)

I believe the "updates" will expand the 2-page rulebook to handle this sort of behavior.

Maybe you will need to signal the DARPA rep somehow?? Will the DARPA rep be wearing a DARPA "uniform"?

[kevincrispie]

http://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/

To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA has announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that will explore the role the Internet and social networking plays in the timely communication, wide area team-building and urgent mobilization required to solve broad scope, time-critical problems.

The challenge is to be the first to submit the locations of ten moored, 8 foot, red weather balloons located at ten fixed locations in the continental United States. Balloons will be in readily accessible locations and visible from nearby roadways.


With the network of Team in the US I think there is a very easy chance we could win this. 40k, Perhaps if we win we could give the money to FIRST to re-grant to some teams in need. Or split it amongst the teams that helped find the balloons.

Announcement October 29, 2009
Registration Opens December 1, 2009
Balloons Launched December 5, 2009
Submission Deadline December 14, 2009

That's a ton of money. I agree, with a bunch of people from teams, there is a ton of great thinkers all around the nation.

[caffel]

Team 423 proposes a collective effort on the part of FIRST teams.
Report a balloon location to us.
The first team to report each good one gets one share in the $.
If I get a few responses, I will make a team entry with DARPA: 'FIRST Consortium for DARPA'

Charlie Affel, Mentor, 423
caffel@aol.com

[SamC]

Team 423 proposes a collective effort on the part of FIRST teams.
Report a balloon location to us.
The first team to report each good one gets one share in the $.
If I get a few responses, I will make a team entry with DARPA: 'FIRST Consortium for DARPA'

Charlie Affel, Mentor, 423
caffel@aol.com

I think this is the basic idea originally proposed by Greg...

[edit]
From the Facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163627713147) previously posted
The way I propose dealing with the prize money is we split it by how ever many people find the balloons at a specific location. So since the prize is $40k Divide that by 10 locations, Each location is worth 4k. So if 4 people find a specific balloon each one gets $1k etc. I am all for donating this money to charity but those people involved should get to choose what they use it for.

[sanddrag]

Not to deflate the excitement here, but I would be quite surprised if anyone in FIRST actually found any of the balloons at all. Think about it. Yes, FIRST is big, but it's not THAT big. There are a lot more areas without FIRST than there are with it. And of all the people in FIRST, only a small fraction visit this site regularly. Think about this too: The balloon could be one block from your house, and if it was a block in the direction you never drove, you'd never know it was there.

The balloons will be found by the entire informed and online population of the US as a whole. The person to claim the prize will be the one with the best real-time monitoring and verification of reports of these balloons. I doubt even if you had one million people specifically on the lookout for these all day long, that they alone would find more than 5. The country is just too large.

As we speak, sophisticated code is probably being written to track, analyze, and log any mention of a red balloon on ALL of the internet's most popular real-time places (such as this forum). The winner will be the person/group that is able to obtain, organize, and verify the results of their massive web-crawl the fastest, while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.

[Fe_Will]

As we speak, sophisticated code is probably being written to track, analyze, and log any mention of a red balloon on ALL of the internet's most popular real-time places (such as this forum). The winner will be the person/group that is able to obtain, organize, and verify the results of their massive web-crawl the fastest, while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.

And that's why it's a network challenge...

[Eugene Fang]

...while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.

Now that wouldn't be graciously professional! :p

But unfortunately, most of the world out there wouldn't know that... :(

[Ted Weisse]

Another thread in th Chit-Chat discussion just started on this subject:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=79188

[John G]

you weren't supposed to tell anyone else. now I might not win. haha
http://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/

To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA has announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that will explore the role the Internet and social networking plays in the timely communication, wide area team-building and urgent mobilization required to solve broad scope, time-critical problems.

The challenge is to be the first to submit the locations of ten moored, 8 foot, red weather balloons located at ten fixed locations in the continental United States. Balloons will be in readily accessible locations and visible from nearby roadways.


With the network of Team in the US I think there is a very easy chance we could win this. 40k, Perhaps if we win we could give the money to FIRST to re-grant to some teams in need. Or split it amongst the teams that helped find the balloons.

Announcement October 29, 2009
Registration Opens December 1, 2009
Balloons Launched December 5, 2009
Submission Deadline December 14, 2009

[Wiz]

Join the facebook group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163627713147
So where is the money going? I'd suggest $1000 to each team that kicks in a location, and the balance to FIRST to use as they see fit.

[BrendanB]

I'll cover manchester...;)

I have SAT's tomorrow:mad: so I might just swing by the millyard to check if there are any red balloons/odd deliveries to the FIRST building.:rolleyes:

[ATannahill]

I disagree. We are all FIRST participants but are doing this outside of FIRST, don't get confused. We are using CD and Facebook for this mission, so if any goes to support an entity besides the people working to find the ballons, it should be those two.

[johnr]

So the winner recieves 40 grand and the tax man gets,what, 25% on gambling winnings. Oh, and the winner gets bumped up to a higher tax bracket. I'm just guessing but the winner is going to be busy on april 15th looking for tax shelters.

[Ted Weisse]

A MIT Team has won.

https://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/
https://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/images/BalloonMap.jpg

Found this in another thread...

[John G]

Of course, a group of kid's at MIT won the 40 k. kinda sad for the rest of us. Oh well.

[Ian Curtis]

It didn't necessarily have to be sad. If you reported a balloon you got $2,000 bucks, and if you referred a balloon reporter you got $1,000 bucks, and if you referred the referrer of the reporter you still got $500 bucks, so on and so forth. Pretty neat idea, obviously effective. :D

MIT's Red Balloon Team (http://balloon.media.mit.edu/)

[1986titans]

Yeah, if everyone was referred down the chain completely, $37500 goes to the people who found the balloons, and $2500 goes to charity. MIT just provided the website for 10 groups of people to meet up.

[GaryVoshol]

Centennial Park in Atlanta - is that a clue? :D