How are they going to inspect for a 3" incursion

[Wayne Doenges]

Anyone know how they are going to determine that the soccer ball goes into your robot 3 inches? The ball is made up of sown together sections so it can vary in depth.
One of our engineers found that a regualtion bowling ball is the same size as the soccer ball. Hmmmmmmmm

[dlavery]

One of our engineers found that a regualtion bowling ball is the same size as the soccer ball. Hmmmmmmmm

Ssshhhhhhh! We are not supposed to worry about bowling ball incursion until next year.


-dave



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[Jon Stratis]

This is just my opinion, but it would be easiest to have a standard regulation ball at inspection so the inspectors can check that, on a flat ground just sitting there, a ball can't go more than 3 inches in. Yes, the ball won't be perfectly round, but it should be close enough... If the inspector sees any trouble spots, he can first warn the team, and second warn the refs. Then the refs just need to watch those trouble spots and for any obvious problems (like teams coming over a bump and landing on top of a ball).

It's going to be impossible for a ref to determine on the fly if your robot allows a 3 inch incursion under normal conditions - that determination almost has to be done off the field.

[Tom Line]

Usually they use a jig. I would guess a simple square tube with a 3 inch piece screwed to it. Then they'll slide the bar back and forth to check the areas.

[Racer26]

Ssshhhhhhh! We are not supposed to worry about bowling ball incursion until next year.


-dave



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aw crap. here we go again....

[Daniel_LaFleur]

This is just my opinion, but it would be easiest to have a standard regulation ball at inspection so the inspectors can check that, on a flat ground just sitting there, a ball can't go more than 3 inches in. Yes, the ball won't be perfectly round, but it should be close enough... If the inspector sees any trouble spots, he can first warn the team, and second warn the refs. Then the refs just need to watch those trouble spots and for any obvious problems (like teams coming over a bump and landing on top of a ball).

It's going to be impossible for a ref to determine on the fly if your robot allows a 3 inch incursion under normal conditions - that determination almost has to be done off the field.

Off the field becomes tricky. It is not against the rules for a ball to be able to roll more than 3" under your robot, it is only against the rules for a ball to roll 3" under your robot.

And I agree that the best way to do this is to have the inspectors notify the referees of the possibility of the ball rolling 3" or more under your robot.

[JaneYoung]

Don't worry, the game piece will never be a bowling ball. They are too hard to wear. :D

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Don't worry, the game piece will never be a bowling ball. They are too hard to wear. :D

You are going to be wearing soccerballs?

[JaneYoung]

You are going to be wearing soccerballs?

I'm not but I'm sure someone will think of something. I'm sticking with my cool Converse and tie-dye.

[EricVanWyk]

How "un-round" are soccerballs? Are we arguing over thousandths of an inch? Hundreths? Tenths?

[JVN]

Off the field becomes tricky. It is not against the rules for a ball to be able to roll more than 3" under your robot, it is only against the rules for a ball to roll 3" under your robot.

And I agree that the best way to do this is to have the inspectors notify the referees of the possibility of the ball rolling 3" or more under your robot.

My interpretation matches yours. This is not an inspection issue, it is a referee "real time" issue similar to extending outside the max extension in 2008.

I think 148 is going to make a point of demonstrating to head-refs that balls cannot enter our robot more than 3". Education may be the key to avoiding penalties from over-eager flag throwers.

I can only imagine the reaction from our new coach if we get such a penalty... ;)

-John

[EricH]

Daniel and John, <R19> clearly specifies that the robots must be designed so that the balls cannot go more than 3" inside the frame perimeter during normal operation.

This then becomes an inspection issue, because the inspectors need to check the normal operation parameters for the 3" incursion, whether or not it happens on the field.

I'm thinking that a rig like the inspectors had last year for the bumper/trailer hitch checking would probably do the trick. One side bumper, one side ball. If it catches something, grab a ball from the practice field or the field stash to verify.

[RoboMom]

I'm not but I'm sure someone will think of something. I'm sticking with my cool Converse and tie-dye.

I'm wearing soccer balls. :D Well, sort-of. (already posted in cdmedia)
And I've upgraded to glitter Converse this year.

[JamesCH95]

I'm curious about what the refs are going to do if a ball fence on a robot gets bent or tweaked during competition and lets the ball in, say, 4 inches. They would have a hell of a time seeing that from 30 feet away... :confused:

[EricLeifermann]

I can only imagine the reaction from our new coach if we get such a penalty... ;)

-John

New coach??? Who is that going to be???

[IndySam]

New coach??? Who is that going to be???

I don't know but I'll bet it will be strange to see him not dressed in green.

[Raul]

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I can only imagine the reaction from our new coach if we get such a penalty... ;)

-John
Gee - I wonder who your new coach may be? :rolleyes:

BTW - I agree with your interpretation and idea to educate.

[Dancin103]

You are going to be wearing soccerballs?

You would be suprised as to what some people come up with. :)

Cass

[Mr.G]

Gee - I wonder who your new coach may be? :rolleyes:

BTW - I agree with your interpretation and idea to educate.

Paul never gets excited. :ahh:

I feel sorry for those people in Texas.....Not sure if they know whats coming.