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Carrington
24-02-2010, 19:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sXWhHfULs

Winnovation 2010
6 wheel coaxial swerve drive
adjustable shooter
gas shock powered lift arm
front roller and vacuum with suction cups

big1boom
24-02-2010, 19:31
Wow, you actually pulled off a 6WD swerve. I am going to have to see this at Midwest. Can't wait.

How is are the wheels grouped? R/L power, F/M/R steer?

Dillon Carey
24-02-2010, 19:34
the power is grouped right side and left side. all of the wheels are steered together.

s_forbes
24-02-2010, 19:36
I just love all of the awesome drivetrains that are coming out this year. Does the six wheel swerve drive let you get over the bump, or did you build it for a different reason?

lenny8
24-02-2010, 19:41
6wd swerve!:ahh: mind blown.

gorrilla
24-02-2010, 19:44
Cool Robot!


It looked like your kicker extended past the bumper perimeter?

Dillon Carey
24-02-2010, 19:45
Does the six wheel swerve drive let you get over the bump, or did you build it for a different reason?

It does go over the bump, just not that gracefully.
unless completely necessary we will probably opt for the tunnel

ThunderKate
24-02-2010, 19:46
It's so strange to see a small bot after last years tank! This one drives like a champ (however that was absolutely expected)! Gorgeous, guys.

Dancin103
24-02-2010, 19:52
Crazy crazy crazy. It looks awesome!

Cass

ChrisP
24-02-2010, 19:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sXWhHfULs

Winnovation 2010
6 wheel coaxial swerve drive
adjustable shooter
gas shock powered lift arm
front roller and vacuum with suction cups
With the center 2 wheels added, you seriously limit yourself in traversing the bump.
Why did you choose 6 wheel over 4 wheel swerve drive?

Dillon Carey
24-02-2010, 19:58
With the center 2 wheels added, you seriously limit yourself in traversing the bump.
Why did you choose 6 wheel over 4 wheel swerve drive?

having the extra 2 wheels allows us to keep our CG down lower and fixes the major issue with a swerve, rotating the robot.
the center wheels are dropped like any other 6 wheel drive robot.

Joe Schornak
24-02-2010, 19:59
This looks frighteningly similar to our robot, from the swerve drive to the cam kicker, all the way up to the off-center numbers on the front bumper!
Your hanging mechanism is decidedly epic.
How far does it kick?

Dillon Carey
24-02-2010, 20:01
How far does it kick?

It has adjustable tension on the kicker, so it can score anywhere from right in front of the goal to the other side of the field.

Chris is me
24-02-2010, 20:40
I could have sworn one of you guys told me you'd never ever do a 6wd swerve... sneaky sneaky.

Looks extremely impressive, not what I expected from you guys this year. I'm just glad I don't have to compete against it 3 events in a row!

Akash Rastogi
24-02-2010, 21:41
I could have sworn one of you guys told me you'd never ever do a 6wd swerve... sneaky sneaky.

Looks extremely impressive, not what I expected from you guys this year. I'm just glad I don't have to compete against it 3 events in a row!

Aren lied and told me they wouldn't do a 6w swerve either.

Didn't expect anything less from you guys. Highly impressive.

Aren_Hill
24-02-2010, 21:42
:p not my fault when people start guessing at a secret prototype 6wd swerves come up. I'm allowed to be sneaky

big1boom
24-02-2010, 21:50
So I am guessing that the letters "6WSD" were hidden into your hint #1.

Also, What motor are you using to turn all 6 modules?

Dillon Carey
24-02-2010, 21:53
yes we did hide those letters in the light of Hint #1.
we are using 2 window motors to turn the wheels.

XaulZan11
24-02-2010, 21:59
Aren lied and told me they wouldn't do a 6w swerve either.

Very cool as expected. The 6 wheel serve is just like you told me it would be :cool:


Unlike last year, I am very impressed with your robot from the teaser, even though the video doesn't show the robot score from longer than like 4 feet. The drivetrain and lifter is just sick.

Look foward to watching in dominate in Midwest.

Chris Fultz
24-02-2010, 22:00
Nice work! Awesome drive and poowerful kick!

See you in a week.

hillale
24-02-2010, 22:04
I'm still really impressed they got everything crammed into a package that will fit under the tunnel and partake in every aspect of the game. No more having to sacrifice re-orient-ability for sweeeeeerviness. Nice job guys.

Akash Rastogi
24-02-2010, 22:09
Very cool as expected. The 6 wheel serve is just like you told me it would be :cool:



Low blow John, low blow. lol

Carrington
24-02-2010, 23:04
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss72/theloneasian77/Photo0340.jpg

Here is a picture of the modules.

Meredith Novak
24-02-2010, 23:21
Very cool robot. Can't wait to see it in KC. Congratulations. (Be nice to your driver - looks like a tough job with that drive train!)

waialua359
25-02-2010, 02:03
Impressive to say the least!:)

EricH
25-02-2010, 03:01
From the video, it looks like there is a sizable gap (at least 1") in both the front bumpers and the back bumpers. If there is, you may wish to read <R07-A>. I don't know whether or not your inspectors would choose to make you redo them, but with 2 sets of inspectors, it's often not best to take chance.

If there is not, then I apologize for needless worry.

The swerve drive itself is quite impressive, though. How hard to drive is it?

rbrown1
25-02-2010, 07:36
Great Job once again. Very impressed with the simplicity of your lifting mechanism. Look forward to competing with you once again and welcome to the Greater Kansas City Regional.

Dillon Carey
25-02-2010, 21:46
How hard to drive is it?

its not to bad, runs like a normal 6 wheel drive till you pull the trigger, then it runs like a swerve drive.

funggiss
25-02-2010, 23:34
That is one quick robot hope your not defending the goal were trying to score on in kansas city.:p

JesseK
26-02-2010, 09:00
Did you guys get a weight on the drive train alone? No doubt the miniaturization prototyping you guys did in the preseason helped.

Radical Pi
26-02-2010, 11:23
Nice lifter! We had the same basic idea, figured it wouldn't work. Guess it can!

jspatz1
26-02-2010, 11:26
yes we did hide those letters in the light of Hint #1.
we are using 2 window motors to turn the wheels.

Dillon, Have you had any trouble with the window motors overheating and shutting down? We originally had 2 window motors steering our swerve drive, but switched to a CIM when we had overheating problems.

Dillon Carey
26-02-2010, 19:22
Did you guys get a weight on the drive train alone? No doubt the miniaturization prototyping you guys did in the preseason helped.

we never weighed it before we added all of the other parts on, but if i had to guess it would be somewhere around 45-50 lbs.

and yes, the offseason miniaturization prototyping helped a lot.

Dillon, Have you had any trouble with the window motors overheating and shutting down? We originally had 2 window motors steering our swerve drive, but switched to a CIM when we had overheating problems.

We thought it might be an issue, but once we started driving around it didn't seem that bad. My guess is that since the window motors don't back drive and we drive around in 6wheel for some of the time they don't get used as much. Also, since the center wheels are dropped it is really only spinning 4 wheels on the carpet at a time.

Akash Rastogi
26-02-2010, 19:24
The windows do begin to overheat but for a 2-3 minute match they should be reasonably fine, especially with a heatsink/fan added on.

Galum
27-02-2010, 13:56
Looks amazing! can't wait to see it in action!

Josh Fox
27-02-2010, 14:00
What size are the wheels?

Dillon Carey
28-02-2010, 12:57
What size are the wheels?

those are 3 inch wheels.

mark johnson
28-02-2010, 16:39
nice drive system you guys always come up with something winnovative!