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Tetraman
17-04-2010, 15:16
The best of the best this year collide together!
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From Galileo Division: 1625 2056 3138
In Division Play: Won 6 Matches.
Highest Score: 20
Second highest score: 19
Plays against
From Newton: 67 294 177
In Division Play: Won 6 Matches. Lost 1 Match.
Highest Score: 19 (twice)
Second Highest Score: 17
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From Curie: 1114 469 2041
In Division Play: Won 6 Games.
Highest Score: 24
Second Highest Score: 23
Plays Against
From Archimedes: 233 254 3357
In Division Play: Won 6 Matches. Lost 1 Match. Tied 1 Match.
Highest Score: 21 (twice)
Second Highest Score: 19
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It's all locked in. Dreams will be made true today!
What do you think? Let's get it on!
Mr. Pockets
17-04-2010, 15:21
I've never been to Championships; how does Einstein work? Is it the winner of the finals in each division all come together for a sort of extended semi-finals? Or am I slightly off?
That makes more sense. I'm kinda surprised Galileo finished that quick.... Curie is definatly in Semi-Finals still, and as far as I know so is ARC
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 15:24
Curie is behind because they had issues with Team 888's robot and the field, I believe.
Mr. Pockets
17-04-2010, 15:37
Newton results in: 67, 177, 294 are the winners
Division record: 6 wins 1 loss
High score: 19 (twice)
2nd highest score: 17
Archimedes, Alliance #1, 254, 233, 3357
6-1-0
21 (twice) high score
19 2nd highest.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 15:41
Thanks guys. (updated)
Who knows which division plays which on Einstein?
Norman J
17-04-2010, 15:50
469, 1114 and 2041 for Curie
And I think it's Archimedes vs. Curie and Galileo Vs. Newton
Grim Tuesday
17-04-2010, 15:52
469, 1114 and 2041 for Curie
And I think it's Archimedes vs. Curie and Galileo Vs. Newton
Confirming that.
jpmittins
17-04-2010, 15:53
Around what time will the matches on Einstein start? I'm going out tonight, but I want to screen cap the matches so i can watch them later.
s_forbes
17-04-2010, 15:57
Pleasantly surprised to see two rookies in the running for world champion!
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 15:57
Around what time will the matches on Einstein start? I'm going out tonight, but I want to screen cap the matches so i can watch them later.
It will start within the hour I'm sure.
Also, first post is set. I'm thinking whomever wins in Archimedes vs. Curie is going to win the whole thing.
Ty Tremblay
17-04-2010, 16:02
The match listings on the FIRST website are all kinds of wrong.
3:52 PM 1 233 1676 67 vs 294 1114 3357
3:53 PM 2 1086 2429 1625 vs 2041 254 217
3:53 PM 3 2056 1986 3138 vs 1718 33 1421
3:54 PM 4 16 177 469 vs 201 148 343
Chris Marra
17-04-2010, 16:03
Those are the qualifications [which shouldn't be there, but regardless]. Take a look here:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2010comp/events/CMP/scheduleelim.html
Also, first post is set. I'm thinking whomever wins in Archimedes vs. Curie is going to win the whole thing.
I was thinking that this morning. I knew that if Archimedes and Curie faced eachother in the semi finals (this was right after alliances had been picked) the winner of that would probably win finals.
Unless Newton wins, the youngest team to ever win in Atlanta will be crowned this year.
It's going to be either Archimedes or Curie taking the title. I'd like to see Curie defeated, but I don't know what the outcome will be. Both alliances are so good!
astephen68
17-04-2010, 16:24
WHo thiunks finals will be the 1114 alliance vs the 2056 allaince?
Ty Tremblay
17-04-2010, 16:27
177 has made it to Einstein again. That makes it 5 years in a row. No other team has ever done that.
Kellen Hill
17-04-2010, 16:27
What happened to all the Michigan teams? Weren't there predictions for 6 or 7 of the 12? I think there's just two with 469 and 67.
Galileo all the way baby!!!
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 16:29
What happened to all the Michigan teams? Weren't there predictions for 6 or 7 of the 12? I think there's just two with 469 and 67.
Three. 3357 is also from Michigan.
I'm wishing all the teams the best of luck in Einstein.
Go Curie!!!!!!
WHo thiunks finals will be the 1114 alliance vs the 2056 allaince?
I hope so. That would be fun to watch (no offense to the other alliances).
Chris Marra
17-04-2010, 16:36
Team IFI is on 3/4 of the alliances, Michigan is on 3/4 of the alliances, and 3/4 of the alliances have teams who have been to Einstein before.
7/12 of the teams are making repeat appearances on Einstein, and 4/12 have been champions before.
Of those four, they are split two and two on Newton and Curie's alliances.
AdamHeard
17-04-2010, 17:15
Team IFI is on 3/4 of the alliances, Michigan is on 3/4 of the alliances, and 3/4 of the alliances have teams who have been to Einstein before.
7/12 of the teams are making repeat appearances on Einstein, and 4/12 have been champions before.
Of those four, they are split two and two on Newton and Curie's alliances.
67, 177, 294, 469 and 1114 have all won champs.
steelerborn
17-04-2010, 17:18
I would like to see 1625 in the finals, their six wheel swerve system is very cool.
I believe that Curie is going to pull it off, watching 469 get the cycle going is really fun to watch.
All in all it has been great all day, very enjoyable to watch from home.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 17:25
Wow, that was really exciting. (wish the cameras were aimed at the action). I think it's very possible for Curie to be defeated if the opposing team can hang a bunch of robots.
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 17:27
Wow, that was really exciting. (wish the cameras were aimed at the action). I think it's very possible for Curie to be defeated if the opposing team can hang a bunch of robots.
Keep in mind that 1114 can hang, too. And they can do it without blocking 469.
Chris Marra
17-04-2010, 17:37
67, 177, 294, 469 and 1114 have all won champs.
Shoot! I left off 294.
But WOW then! The Newton alliance is entirely former champions. That's absurd!
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 17:41
Now that was a match! 22 to 14? OH MY.
Now that was a match! 22 to 14? OH MY.
WHOOOO!!!! Haha, I'm having a heart attack up here at school in Michigan.
What happened to the Newton alliance?? 22-14!?!?
Vikesrock
17-04-2010, 17:52
Team IFI is on 3/4 of the alliances
2056 was not sponsored by IFI this year.
If 67 wins this round, then they get a third win and break the repeat winners barrier. (71 is currently the only team to repeat, and of course the only team with more than 2.)
Of course, that means beating 1114/469 in the process.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 18:16
Been a while since Curie fought Newton for the champs.
smurfgirl
17-04-2010, 18:18
I'm excited to see our friends from CT in the finals! I don't know how 177 manages to do it, but they're continuously impressive.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 18:22
WOW!!! I MEAN WOW!!!
Newton just out scored them!!!!!
PriyankP
17-04-2010, 18:24
Holy crap. At one point it was clear that Blue was going to win. I do not know what happened!! OMG! That was simply an epic match.
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 18:24
294 happened.
The key to the finals is 2041, without a doubt. If 2041 can lock up 294 like they did to 1676, Curie will win. If 294 continues to outplay 2041, Newton will likely have the edge.
edit: Well, that's not exactly what I meant, but 2041 getting stuck is definitely the key to that match.
Congratulations to 294, 67, and 177.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 18:38
Top 10 was good this year. I laughed to hard at #6 "If the world cup soccer competition had 12 soccer balls on the field Americans would actually watch it."
PriyankP
17-04-2010, 18:41
If 2041 stayed there stuck for the entire match, it would have been soo sad for the blue alliance...:ahh:
chaoticprout
17-04-2010, 18:42
Covering that goal really hurt blue. Don't know if they got it.
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 18:43
They pulled it off!!!
PriyankP
17-04-2010, 18:43
Congratulations to Team 67, Team 294 and Team 177!! You guys proved all predictions wrong by defeating the favourites. You really deserve it.
67 177 294 new World Champions. Wow. Spectacular matches. Congratulations!
Wow Just Wow, thats all I can say
Congrats to 67 294, and 177.
More to come when I calm down.
Congratulations to 67, 294, and 177!
67 joins 71 as the only teams with >2 wins, and the only two teams to win back-to-back Championships. 294 and 177 win for the second time each.
smurfgirl
17-04-2010, 18:45
I'm excited to see our friends from CT in the finals! I don't know how 177 manages to do it, but they're continuously impressive.
I take it back- not only congratulations for making the finals, but congratulations for becoming the world champions once more! And two years in a row for team 67! WOW!
Radical Pi
17-04-2010, 18:45
WOW! Huge upset in einstein! Great match to all!
btw does anyone have the top 10 list written down?
Congrats 177, 67 and 294.
I was hoping for a 3rd match though, that last one was a bit disappointing.
Holy crap.
Congrats to 177, 67, and our neighbors 294 in one of the most competitive finals ever. Amazing!
yodameister
17-04-2010, 18:47
Congratulations on a great win 294, 67, and 177
Congrats 294, 177 and 67, definitely deserving champions.
I was shocked that 1114 and 469 lost in the final. It looked like 2041 accidentally blocked some shots in the closing seconds that would have tied it up for blue. Still a very impressive alliance.
Congratulations to Team 67, Team 294 and Team 177!! You guys proved all predictions wrong by defeating the favourites. You really deserve it.
Not all predictions, I said way back before Michigan State Champions that 469 would not win The Championship. 469 had an amazing robot but they were beatable. With so many people saying 469 was the best I figured a few teams might find a way to stop them. Nice final matches.
It looked like 2041 accidentally blocked some shots in the closing seconds that would have tied it up for blue.
The announcer said they were stuck and couldn't get out of the goal.
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Mr. Pockets
17-04-2010, 18:52
Amazingly played 67, 294, 177. You truly did Breakaway! Enjoy your champion status and can't wait to see you again next year.
1114, 469, 2041: you fought hard. You had the game cracked like an egg and you are without any doubt true masters of robotics. Congrats on an amazing season and best wishes next year.
Thank you to all the teams who competed for the most amazing season! Until next time =)
BTW, anybody have a clue what the song that played on the webcast right after the championship match was?
The announcer said they were stuck and couldn't get out of the goal.
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They were stuck in the far side goal earlier in the match and blocked some shots, but I was referring to the end when they blocked the near side goal, I don't believe they were stuck in that goal. (of course I could be wrong because I wasn't there, I was just watching the webcast, but they appeared out in the open of the field).
Not all predictions, I said way back before Michigan State Champions that 469 would not win The Championship.
Well, it's very easy to predict that a particular team wouldn't win the championship. It's much harder to say that an alliance as decent as 469, 1114, and 2041 wouldn't win the championship if they were paired.
Well, it's very easy to predict that a particular team wouldn't win the championship. It's much harder to say that an alliance as decent as 469, 1114, and 2041 wouldn't win the championship if they were paired.
Yes it is easy to predict but I would have said that with any alliance. 469 is easy to counter if you play right. and if 469 stays in the tower it is basically a 2 v 3 match. That was the basis of my predictions. Not that 469 had a bad robot but I think they are actually better out of the tunnel than in.
They were stuck in the far side goal earlier in the match and blocked some shots, but I was referring to the end when they blocked the near side goal, I don't believe they were stuck in that goal. (of course I could be wrong because I wasn't there, I was just watching the webcast, but they appeared plainly out in the oen of the field).
You are probably right then. I missed that part.
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I saw the second final and watched 2041 accidentally get stuck in a blue goal, but how did the red alliance win the first match?
Tetraman
17-04-2010, 19:07
This reminds me of Aim High and team 25. It's was "so obvious" that they had the championship wrapped up from the first week, but it didn't turn out so in the finals.
I saw the second final and watched 2041 accidentally get stuck in a blue goal, but how did the red alliance win the first match?
294 outplayed 2041. They did a good job on defence keeping 469 from continuing a loop and keeping the loop from getting started. HOT played great in both matches, and having watched all of 177's matches thins year it looked like they were really on top of their game.
I'm not sure whether 2041's assignemnt was to keep defence away from 1114 and 469 or to score goals to start the loop, but whatever it was 294 did an amazing job of stopping them.
I'm taking nothing away from 1114, but it didn't appear as though they were at their best in the finals. It may have just been good play by red on defense.
Dave Flowerday
17-04-2010, 19:11
This reminds me of Aim High and team 25. It's was "so obvious" that they had the championship wrapped up from the first week, but it didn't turn out so in the finals.
Interesting coincidence: 25 was undefeated until meeting 111 on the field at the Championship in 2006, and the same was true this year of 1114...
Michael Corsetto
17-04-2010, 19:21
BTW, anybody have a clue what the song that played on the webcast right after the championship match was?
"We Won't Be Quiet" by David Crowder Band. Not "We Are The Champions" by any means, but a good song.
Excellent job to both alliances in the finals! I wish we could have seen 469 at max speed like we did at MSC but it was still a thrilling finals on Einstein!
177, you are the #1 under-rated team in FIRST. 5 division wins in a row, incredible!
177, you are the #1 under-rated team in FIRST. 5 division wins in a row, incredible!
I'm not so sure 177 is under-rated, they've been making noise on the big stage for a while now. I do agree though, they deserve a lot of respect, there's nothing easy about getting to Einstein 5 years in a row, no matter what number pick you are on an alliance.
The curse on the Curie champion continues on. Yikes!
Congratulations to 294, 67, and 177 ! Well done.
The curse on the Curie champion continues on. Yikes!
Who Knows, maybe with a new city and Venues hosting the Champs, the curse may be lifted?????
Brandon_L
17-04-2010, 20:40
I recorded NASA's live feed and will parse to upload to TBA if they want it. But first im gonna watch it, I recorded it while I was at work and missed it. DONT spoil it for me :O
Greg Marra
17-04-2010, 21:04
I recorded NASA's live feed and will parse to upload to TBA if they want it.
We do! PM me if you need upload info. :-)
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 21:11
We do! PM me if you need upload info. :-)
Did anyone capture the video directly from the field, by any chance? The NASA feed is certainly better than nothing, but having the real thing would be much better.
Brandon_L
17-04-2010, 21:14
the NASA feed was the field video. It has the scoreboard and all during the match, if thats what you mean.
the NASA feed was the field video. It has the scoreboard and all during the match, if thats what you mean.
He's probably talking about the quality of the video, just a guess.
Grim Tuesday
17-04-2010, 21:16
Not only the quality, but also the fact that the cameramen in most of the divisions seemed to love to zoom in on one robot and follow it around.
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 21:21
He's probably talking about the quality of the video, just a guess.
I was indeed talking about quality.
Not only the quality, but also the fact that the cameramen in most of the divisions seemed to love to zoom in on one robot and follow it around.
You're not going to get anything different unless you took your own video.
Grim Tuesday
17-04-2010, 21:22
If one had the original video, from all the cameras, they could edit it themselves, so it was a full field view, or whatever they wanted.
Lil' Lavery
17-04-2010, 21:26
If one had the original video, from all the cameras, they could edit it themselves, so it was a full field view, or whatever they wanted.
I don't think FIRST has ever allowed anyone to record the video directly from the camera feeds.
waialua359
17-04-2010, 21:50
The difference maker was clearly 294, which was instrumental in the win!
I rooted for them all the way in Einstein!
Our great 2nd pick alliance partner in San Diego!!
I still cannot believe it.
Interesting trivia on 294: The last time they won was in 2001 with 71, when they won for the second time, which was unprecedented at the time. (It was also the first of 71's back-to-back wins.) This time, they're with 67, as they got their third (first team other than 71 to do so), and 177, the sixth (or seventh, depending how you count their number) team to get 2 wins. Weird...
71 won in 1997, did not win in 1998, 1999, 2000, then won in 2001 and 2002
67 won in 2005, did not win in 2006, 2007, 2008, then won in 2009 and 2010
71 won in 1997, did not win in 1998, 1999, 2000, then won in 2001 and 2002
67 won in 2005, did not win in 2006, 2007, 2008, then won in 2009 and 2010
Talk about coincidences. The three years after both of their initial wins were all non-winning, then the 4th and 5th year were back-to-back. How strange.
Congratulations to our friends on the HOT team! Your team is fantastic! Congrats to all the Michigan teams for a great showing at Worlds! Wish we had been able to be there, but at least we got to watch! :)
Congrats to all the teams that made it to their division playoffs and finals and to all of the 2010 winners!
Guerrillas - you are still champions! :) Awesome bot! Definitely the most talked about bot of 2010! Congrats to you all!
294 obviously had an awesome year this year! Our team felt like celebrities after the matches with everyone congratulating us! The FIRST community is great and we're glad to be a part of it Thank you all!
Naturally, we couldn't have done it without a great deal of help...
Thank you to 67 and 177 for joining our alliance in Newton! It was an absolute pleasure playing with you guys! I think in every elimination round we had a slightly different strategy to match our opponents and we all executed perfectly! I can't wait to watch the videos!
We also have enormous appreciation and respect for our opponents 1114, 469 and 2041. You guys were an incredibly powerful alliance! 1114 was very gracious by load testing our batteries throughout the competition - including the elimination rounds. You guys surely represent FIRST well.
We also want to thank all the teams that loaned their batteries to us to pull us through the eliminations: 100, 166, 585, 702, 2839, and 3128. Thanks to 399 for offering their batteries after the Newton quarter finals as well. For our friends near LA who lent us batteries, your batteries are safely on their way home in our crate. We'll return them to you as soon as we can.
We also want to thank a couple of teams in particular for their advice and support: 100, 217, 330, 359, 968, 980, 1717. When we needed some advice, we could rely on your support.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE FANTASTIC SEASON!
Andrew
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