Best Team by State [Archive]

kjolana1124

30-05-2010, 11:37

50 states. With a team in each state (as far as I know), there should be 50 teams that are the best in their respective states. It'd be interesting to see what people from said states think about this. Michigan should be especially interesting.

Obviously, I'd like to throw 177 into the ring for CT.

Alex Cormier

30-05-2010, 11:51

What is the criteria?

I'll take an easy state.

78 for RI.

Jared Russell

30-05-2010, 11:54

By any criteria:

HI - 359
DE - 365

kjolana1124

30-05-2010, 11:57

I didn't put criteria because I felt that different people would have different opinions, like Chairman's v. Regionals v. sheer consistency, and I didn't want to spoil the creative flow.

I have to agree about 78, especially since they're a new team.

Jared Russell

30-05-2010, 12:09

Another tough one - 16 for Arkansas.

Jeffy

30-05-2010, 12:19

Ill throw out a few "nominations" for Kansas:
935- Year in and Year out they build a solid competitive robot
1108- I did not have the privlege of seeing Paola compete this year, but they have a solid team that should be winning Chairman's for years to come.

And also since I live a mile from stateline, I feel like I should be capable of naming a few Missouri teams.
1806- SWAT has had great robots ever since I started in FIRST back in '08
1730- One of 3 hot teams from the Lee's Summit school district they were the 11th seed in their divison at Championships and always make a good run for Chairman's.
1986- The 2nd of the Lee's Summit teams, If you were on Curie you will know them as the #3 alliance captain and finalist.
1987- The 3rd of the Lee's Summit teams, they had a great robot this year. If they hadn't run into intermitant drivetrain issues, they definately could have gone as far as either of the other Lee's Summit teams.

Mike Schreiber

30-05-2010, 12:24

71- Indiana (never bet against beatty)
25- New Jersey
67- Michigan
1625 - Illinois
254- California
233- Florida
148- Texas

Justification for 67:

Most World Championship wins out of Michigan (three), Hall of Fame team, consistently win districts, regionals, and back to back World Championships. They've really cooked up a recipe for success :p (yes I just used that line).

Justification for 254:

Although 254 has not won a world championship like other CA teams. They're up to 20 regional wins and consistently appear on Einstein.

I'll post more as I remember what the different states are.

bassoondude

30-05-2010, 12:24

My nominations for SC after 1 season in FRC:
1102
1398

BrendanB

30-05-2010, 12:26

58 Riot Crew for Maine
190 Gompei and the Herd from WPI for Massachussetts
2370 iBots for Vermont
40 Checkmate for New Hampshire

kjolana1124

30-05-2010, 12:31

Being a native Nevadian, I'd like to suggest 987 for Nevada

rutzman

30-05-2010, 12:38

My nominations for WV:
337
1249
2614
The only teams in the state, all of which have done fairly well at all of the regionals they've attended the past few years. Others can decide which of those is the best.

apalrd

30-05-2010, 12:45

I would like to suggest 67 for MI:

3 world championships (2 in a row), more than any other Michigan team.
Hall of Fame
Won every event they attended in 2009 and every one except Michigan State Championship in 2010 - consistently good, even against tough Michigan competition.

EricH

30-05-2010, 12:47

Second the 987 in NV.

AZ: tossup between 39 and 60.

I'd have to go with 39, though. (They're a continuation of 64, and 64 was never an easy team to beat.)

60's influence mainly comes from their collaboration with 254 back in 2004.

SD is easy: There is no best team, because there isn't a team.:( (I've checked off and on the past 3 years. The first year, there was one. The last couple, there hasn't been one.)

XaulZan11

30-05-2010, 13:08

1625 - Illinois

As much as I love 1625, I'm not sure they can match 111's 2 world championships and Hall of Fame status...not yet, atleast.

Wisconsin is a really tough state as there are no real dominate every year teams. If going just by robot preformance, it is wide open. If going only by chairmans and other awards, I think 1714 would take it.

EricDrost

30-05-2010, 13:10

Massachusetts - 88
New Jersey - 25
Pennsylvania - 341
Canada (yes, it's a state.) - 1114

Koko Ed

30-05-2010, 13:33

Massachusetts - 88
New Jersey - 25
Pennsylvania - 341
Canada (yes, it's a state.) - 1114
Canada is not a state. It's a country.
If you are going by State for 1114 it's Ontario.

EricDrost

30-05-2010, 13:49

Canada is not a state. It's a country.
If you are going by State for 1114 it's Ontario.

Ontario is actually a province, not a state. 1114 is still my nomination whether we break it down into provinces or not.

MarkoRamius1086

30-05-2010, 14:22

1902 for Florida!

dodar

30-05-2010, 14:29

Well for Canada I would actually say 188, even though they have not won at Championships, their team practically started FIRST in Canada and they are a perrennial powerhouse wherever they go and even Championships

And I guess I have to throw in 1592 for Florida ;-)

sgreco

30-05-2010, 14:31

Massachusetts - 88

Being from Massachusetts I have to go with 126. 88 may have been better this year, but in past years 126 has been better. They have more regional wins and more RCA's all time.

I'd like to mention 69 as well. They haven't been so big on a national stage because the typically don't attend the championships, but their robots have always been competitively dominant at a regional level. I still think their 2007 bot was in the top 5 for the whole country.

Koko Ed

30-05-2010, 14:40

Being from Massachusetts I have to go with 126. 88 may have been better this year, but in past years 126 has been better. They have more regional wins and more RCA's all time.

I'd like to mention 69 as well. They haven't been so big on a national stage because the typically don't attend the championships, but their robots have always been competitively dominant at a regional level. I still their 2007 bot was in the top 5 for the whole country.

They are also the first FIRST championship winner.

sammyjalex

30-05-2010, 14:46

The fact that many of these choices are based solely on statistics or arbitrary selections is an indication of how FRC is much more prominent in clusters of space, but not as represented in every state as some would wish in any way. Two states do not have a single team:Nebraska and South Dakota. There is, however, stiff competition between teams to gain this title in many regions, such as the mid-Atlantic, Michigan and California. Perhaps this is not the best way to evaluate FRC or maybe it is simply an eye-opener. It is also possible I missed many teams but this is the least likely option. I think this survey just shows us how effective the district system could be in some regions like MI, while so ineffective in others, like anywhere outside of FL, PA/NJ/NY and CA.

FRC by state:

Alabama-34
Alaska-1548
Arizona-842
Arkansas-16
California-254
Colorado-1332
Connecticut-236
Delaware-365
Florida-1902
Georgia-1771
Hawaii-359
Idaho-2122
Illinois-111
Indiana-71
Iowa-525
Kansas-1108
Kentucky-2856
Louisiana-1912
Maine-172
Maryland-768
Massachusetts-88
Michigan-67
Minnesota-1816
Mississippi-1421
Missouri-1806
Montana-473
Nebraska-N/a
Nevada-987
New Hampshire-40
New Jersey-25
New Mexico-2196
New York-375
North Carolina-587
North Dakota-876
Ohio-120
Oklahoma-932
Oregon-997
Pennsylvania-103
Rhode Island-121
South Carolina-343
South Dakota-N/a
Tennessee-547
Texas-148
Utah-2993
Vermont-885
Virginia-1086
Washington-488
West Virginia-337
Wisconsin-1714
Wyoming-1303
Brazil-1772
Canada-1114
Israel-1574

EricLeifermann

30-05-2010, 14:52

No disrespect to 1902 but i would go with 233 for Florida.

ttldomination

30-05-2010, 14:56

No disrespect to 1902 but i would go with 233 for Florida.

I'd have to agree with ya there.

I think 343 pretty much dominates SC, and 1771 shows no signs of slowing down in GA.

- Sunny

GaryVoshol

30-05-2010, 14:58

NY - 191 or 20
WA - 488
BC - 1346 ;) (but I mean it too)
TX - 148
PA - 1712
VA - 116
OH - 48 or 279 or 379
SC - 343
FL - 223 (sorry, 1902)
IN - 71, followed closely by 45 and 234
MI - 67, with a lot of good runners-up

AcesJames

30-05-2010, 15:15

These are more or less in order that they pop into my head.

MI - 67
CT - 177
FL - 233
MA - 126
NJ - 25
TX - 148
PA - 341
WA - 488
CA - 254
HI - 359
RI - 78
IN - 71
IL - 111
NV - 987
NH - 40

gyaniv

30-05-2010, 15:24

Israel-1577
I will have to disagree with you on this one... 1577 is a good team, true, but they are by far not the best team in Israel. The most dominant nominees for this "title" are teams 1574 and team 1690. 1574 won every single regional in Israel since the start of FIRST Israel and until 2009 (when we beat them :D) and they even got once to SF in a division at Atlanta (at 2008 if i am not wrong). On the other hand, 1690 has only one regional win but each and each year they impress all of us with their national class robot, even though they lot of the times get unlucky with their alliance.

Cory

30-05-2010, 15:42

60's influence mainly comes from their collaboration with 254 back in 2004.

I wouldn't really say that's true. 60 was a force pre-2004. It's not like working with 254 made them famous. If anything our influence comes from them. There's a marked change in how we went about building our robots 2004 and later. We always made good robots before that but my impression from the outside (I wasn't on the team then) was that working with Glenn Thoroughman and the rest of 60 really changed the way everyone on the team approached the design process and lead to our current style of robots.

sammyjalex

30-05-2010, 15:50

I will have to disagree with you on this one... 1577 is a good team, true, but they are by far not the best team in Israel. The most dominant nominees for this "title" are teams 1574 and team 1690. 1574 won every single regional in Israel since the start of FIRST Israel and until 2009 (when we beat them :D) and they even got once to SF in a division at Atlanta (at 2008 if i am not wrong). On the other hand, 1690 has only one regional win but each and each year they impress all of us with their national class robot, even though they lot of the times get unlucky with their alliance.

Funny you should say that. I actually originally put MisCar for Israel because I was with them in Newton in 2008, made some friends on the team and was in awe with the professionalism displayed through their robot, but when I looked for them on the FIRST website, I could not find them and I hadn't heard anything about them with this year's Israel regional. I was afraid they had disappeared or something to that regard, so I picked another team from Israel with which I was somewhat familiar. I am, honestly and happily, a member of the MisCar fan club. I'm glad to hear they're still alive and well.

SavtaKenneth

30-05-2010, 15:55

I will have to disagree with you on this one... 1577 is a good team, true, but they are by far not the best team in Israel. The most dominant nominees for this "title" are teams 1574 and team 1690. 1574 won every single regional in Israel since the start of FIRST Israel and until 2009 (when we beat them :D) and they even got once to SF in a division at Atlanta (at 2008 if i am not wrong). On the other hand, 1690 has only one regional win but each and each year they impress all of us with their national class robot, even though they lot of the times get unlucky with their alliance.

I would like to have another nomination for the best Israeli team. And that is 2630 from Emek Hefer. I believe that in the past 2 years they had the most dominant overall performance in the regionals. Whether it was a great robot design or great communication with the other teams I believe that Emek Hefer currently is the torch bearer as the best Israeli team.

gyaniv

30-05-2010, 16:04

I would like to have another nomination for the best Israeli team. And that is 2630 from Emek Hefer. I believe that in the past 2 years they had the most dominant overall performance in the regionals. Whether it was a great robot design or great communication with the other teams I believe that Emek Hefer currently is the torch bearer as the best Israeli team.
I also thought of them, but in my opinion 1574 and 1690 are much more suitable for this title...

Chris is me

30-05-2010, 16:12

Wisconsin is a really tough state as there are no real dominate every year teams. If going just by robot preformance, it is wide open. If going only by chairmans and other awards, I think 1714 would take it.

1732 has the most consistency of Wisconsin teams and has been constantly improving. 2 wins, Champ division finalist, obvious choice. 1714, 2062, and 2826 are getting there but a step below for now...

rob_c

30-05-2010, 16:21

FL: 79
NC: 435 or 587 (although 3196 may be one to watch these next few years)
VA: 1086
TX: 118 or 148 (Texas is big enough that it could be 2 states anyway)
IL: 111
MA: 88
OH: 48

These are just teams which have stood out to me over the years... I feel a bit more qualified about NC and VA, as I am more familiar with teams from these states... I saw 79 and 48 compete at both NC and Champs this year, and both stood out to me at each (especially at NC)... I got to see 88 last year at VCU, and although I don't recall them being the best, they stand out in my mind... 111, 118, and 148 have always stood out to me as innovating teams which seem to consistently create incredible robots and ideas (WildSwerve, Red Line, Tumble Weed, Tornado...) I have always had a lot of respect for 1086... I have seen them perform at VCU for the last 4 years, and this year at NC and Champs as well... They have consistently put forth incredible robots, and have been able to win VCU for the last 3 years and NC this year (as well as Finalist on Galileo)... 435 has a rather impressive history, and I've seen them field some impressive robots over the years; 587's history isn't incredible, but they (like 88) have struck me as a team that I can't get out of my head...

dtengineering

30-05-2010, 16:35

The top Canadian team would definitely be from Ontario, and 1114 and 188 would be leaders in that category.

But there are very successful teams in other provinces, too, most prominently 296 in Quebec.

In BC and Alberta it isn't hard to pick the top team in those provinces... we're the only team in BC this year, and 1482 is the top team in Alberta for a similar reason.

Jason

hg273

30-05-2010, 16:41

I'm going to have to throw in 1540 for Oregon. Although 997 has won the regional twice, I'd point to our consistent EI and RCA wins as a counter.

bobwrit

30-05-2010, 17:30

I have several picks for Colorado.

159--3 RCA wins, first Colorado team, fairly consistently in elimination rounds.

1158--Almost always in semi's(at least) at every event it goes to. Attends 2 regionals a year, which in CO, makes a big difference.

1332--Team that has probably made the deepest run in Colorado(divisional semi's, '09)

paragon571

30-05-2010, 17:35

ct 1124

BX MARK

30-05-2010, 17:55

Although you can make a verrry strong case for 217,
I personally think that 67 is slightly more deserving based on there recent back to back world championships.

Chris is me

30-05-2010, 17:56

ct 1124

I would have to disagree. Their successes were for only 3 years (2007, 2008, 2010, and the latter mostly due to their driver). That can't top 177's unbelievable consistency.

Koko Ed

30-05-2010, 18:00

Although you can make a verrry strong case for 217,
I personally think that 67 is slightly more deserving based on there recent back to back world championships.

and the Hall of Fame status.

GarrettF2395

30-05-2010, 19:02

So far, I have only seen one person talk about Oklahoma-
which surprises me considering that it has almost 50 competing teams.

My vote would have to go to 476 (wildcats) as the #1 team in OK.
They are professional, a strong competitor every year
(I believe this was the 1st year in their team history that they didn't make it to the finals at a regional),
and mainly responsible for OKC having its own regional. (not to mention chairmans, and community work).
They are an all around great team.

But I will give an extremely strong honorable mention to teams 1742 (shockwave) and and 932 (circuit chargers).
1742 has been an Oklahoma power house team for a few years now, and do great things for their community.

While 932 has always been a great example of what a FIRST team should be.
They sat out during one of their matches this year, because they loaned a piece of their electronics to another team who needed it.
If thats not gracious professionalism I don't know what is!
(Love you Lane and Joe) :D

kjolana1124

30-05-2010, 19:48

I would have to disagree. Their successes were for only 3 years (2007, 2008, 2010, and the latter mostly due to their driver). That can't top 177's unbelievable consistency.

*yesivotedfor177toobutifeellikeishoulddoatleastali ttleshamlessplugging*

177 is extremely consistent in their winning championships/divisions. However, a lot of it seems to be on luck. They've won regionals a lot less than those. Their strategy cannot be beat and their robots are great, but there is a lot of luck there.

Also, when goes by other things, 1124 has won a lot of non-regional-win awards. We have 1 RCA, an Entrepreneurship, some website awards, Rockwell a bunch of times, etc. So, one could argue we are more well rounded.

Alright, shameless plug done. Thanks for picking us, @paragon571, but I still feel either 177 or 236. Maybe top five? :P

Billfred

30-05-2010, 20:23

My nominations for SC after 1 season in FRC:
1102
1398

Both worthy picks, but I think the best in the state has to be 343. Aside from being the only team in the state to make it to the Einstein finals*, they boast an impressive resume over the past decade--seven regional championships, one division win leading to that Einstein run in 2003, two Regional Chairman's Awards, two Engineering Inspiration awards (one of them at the Championship), and three division silver medals (which puts them just shy of Einstein that many times over).

It's a nice little target to shoot for as another team in the state. ;)

*Four years later in 2007, 1319 became the second team in the state to reach the big show when they won Galileo with 173 and 1902. They were eliminated in the semifinals.

EricLeifermann

30-05-2010, 22:30

smurfgirl

30-05-2010, 22:36

Maybe I missed this, but I'm surprised no one has nominated 175 for CT... so I'm going to nominate 175 for CT. They're consistently high-performing all-around, and they live up to their HOF status always.

I would have to disagree. Their successes were for only 3 years (2007, 2008, 2010, and the latter mostly due to their driver). That can't top 177's unbelievable consistency.

I agree with you that there's no way my team is the "best" team in CT. However, I take issue with the fact that you said the team's successes this season are mostly attributable to our driver. All of the students on the team worked extremely hard this season in a variety of roles to make both big and small successes possible, and I don't want their contributions to be downplayed, though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. Ethan was indeed a fantastic driver, but the robot he was working with, the strategy behind what he did with the robot, etc. were all based off of the hard work of all of the students on the team over the course of many months, and they all deserve credit.

Lee Reid 3136

30-05-2010, 22:41

For Virginia, I'd have to give it to either 1086 or 1522, probably with 1086 edging out 1522 by stint of being a bit more consistent. I think their both great teams, but they may have to start worrying about 3136 in the next year or two, if we can keep competing as well as we did this year.

AcesJames

30-05-2010, 22:46

Maybe I missed this, but I'm surprised no one has nominated 175 for CT... so I'm going to nominate 175 for CT. They're consistently high-performing all-around, and they live up to their HOF status always.

I think they often get overlooked because they haven't had anything as *glorious* as an Einstein appearance since their three-peat in 03, 04, and 05. However, they are definitely one of the top CT teams not only for their robots, but for their commitment to inspiring others.

Chris is me

30-05-2010, 23:20

I agree with you that there's no way my team is the "best" team in CT. However, I take issue with the fact that you said the team's successes this season are mostly attributable to our driver. All of the students on the team worked extremely hard this season in a variety of roles to make both big and small successes possible, and I don't want their contributions to be downplayed, though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. Ethan was indeed a fantastic driver, but the robot he was working with, the strategy behind what he did with the robot, etc. were all based off of the hard work of all of the students on the team over the course of many months, and they all deserve credit.

Of course, but that would have made my post very long. :)

The reason I say the wins were attributed more to the driving than otherwise was because the robot was not used as originally intended (after WPI), when kicking was abandoned in favor of a jam-em-in-the-goals striker role, and at Beantown with a new driver the robot did not perform at the high level it did in CT and Archimedes.

XaulZan11

30-05-2010, 23:23

For Wisconsin if you look at recent history it would go to probably 1714, but overall history has to go to 269 or 93, i think 269 has like 3 or 4 regional wins at least and 1 or 2 regional chairmans. 93 has 2 regional wins, a division finalist and several regional finalists as well ad many other awards, they lack in the chairmans area though. I know more about 93 seeing i am an alumni but 269 always found themselves at the right place every year i was in high school.

as for what Chris said i believe that 1732 is from Illinois not Wisconsin

I agree that 93 should be in the consideration for best robots. It is easy to forget about them after two down years, but they won Minnesota in 2008, finalist in Wisconsin in '08, first pick in Wisconsin in 2007 and have another regional win, regional finalist and Einstien finalist.

269 has 3 regional wins but the last one came back in 2005. They do have a regional chairman's since then, but I'm not sure I would consider them dominate in any year since 2006 (when I joined FIRST).

I also think 537 should be in the conversation for Wisconsin. 537 has won regionals in 07, 06, 05, 04. They also have a divisional finalist (05) and a regional chairmans ('10).

Like I said before, Wisconsin is wide open.

Also, 1732 is from Wisconsin.

TPNigl

31-05-2010, 02:45

For MA at least, I agree that it's probably 88. But teams such as 126, 155, and 69 all have done fairly well.

88 - They just seem to always build a great bot and be able to maneuver it effectively
126 - They're always a powerhouse and make a strong showing
155 - They've won the RCA a few times and always do well in competition
69 - We've built some pretty innovative robots, and it's true we don't go to the championships as much. Hopefully we can change that a bit :D

penguinfrk

31-05-2010, 04:32

I want to nominate 1983 for Washington. Statistically, they've gotten a blue banner every year, including their rookie year, and are just as competitive as 488. I haven't interacted with Xbot much, but I know that 1983 has extremely helpful team members and mentors (and not just at the competition; year-round!)

Yoel2630

31-05-2010, 06:33

they even got once to SF in a division at Atlanta (at 2008 if i am not wrong).
1574 got to finals of newton devision in 2008(no doubt), and were number 2 seeded alliance(they finished 3rd, and 1st and 2nd were in number 1 alliance, pretty sure about this, but yet again, this is from my memory)

Funny you should say that. I actually originally put MisCar for Israel because I was with them in Newton in 2008, made some friends on the team and was in awe with the professionalism displayed through their robot, but when I looked for them on the FIRST website, I could not find them and I hadn't heard anything about them with this year's Israel regional. I was afraid they had disappeared or something to that regard, so I picked another team from Israel with which I was somewhat familiar. I am, honestly and happily, a member of the MisCar fan club. I'm glad to hear they're still alive and well.
They had a rough year. They had a good bot(didn't get to see it in action, but it was well designed, so it might of been a great bot and not only good) but tough luck, the didn't play a single game due to communication problems.
I can assure you they haven't disappeared, and I hope they come back next year with yet another awesome robot.

sgreco

31-05-2010, 08:01

AL-34
AK-1548
AZ-39
AR-16
CA-254
CO-159
CT-175
DE-365
FL-233
GA-1771
HI-359
ID-2122
IL-111
IN-71
IA-525
KS-935
KY-2856
LA-1912
ME-58
MD-2377
MA-126
MI-67
MN-1816
MS-1421
MO-1806
MN-473
NE-(are there any teams? I'm not sure)
NV-987
NH-40
NJ-25
NM-2196
NY-20
NC-587
ND-876
OH-48
OK-476
OR-1540
PA-103
RI-78
SC-343
SD- (no teams)
TN-547
TX-148
UT-2993
VT-2370
VA-1086
WA-488
WV-337
WI-1714
WY-1303
Brazil-383
Canada-1114
Israel-1690

Travis Hoffman

31-05-2010, 08:14

Ohio should be 1038, especially if you include their kinda sorta former number 144.... Even without it, they'd stand alone as an awesome team and program.

Lee Reid 3136

31-05-2010, 08:45

VI-1086

The abbreviation for Virginia is VA. That confused me greatly. You probably have the right team in the Virginia spot but with 1522 in close second.

EricDrost

31-05-2010, 09:02

AcesJames

31-05-2010, 09:13

It's funny how there's no debate that 25 is the best of NJ. We have one of the largest pools of excellent veteran teams (not as large as Michigan, but you get the picture). Many of the other states are debatable but nobody has questioned 25's dominance of NJ. They're just very very good.

I think 25 is the choice as of right now, but considering the way 1676 played this year, and the way 2753 has played since it's inception, we may have a few more apparent contenders very soon, if they can keep it up.

Akash Rastogi

31-05-2010, 10:09

It's funny how there's no debate that 25 is the best of NJ. We have one of the largest pools of excellent veteran teams (not as large as Michigan, but you get the picture). Many of the other states are debatable but nobody has questioned 25's dominance of NJ. They're just very very good.

For many years 25 was the biggest contender against 56. Its debateable, but I still think that both teams' history earns them a title as the top of the NJ food chain.

Stephen Kowski

31-05-2010, 10:52

My nominations for SC after 1 season in FRC:
1102
1398

Not a chance, good teams, but 343 is the bar in SC period

after that there are a many teams vying for #2 (342, 1102, 1398, etc)

Wayne C.

31-05-2010, 11:03

I think 25 is the choice as of right now, but considering the way 1676 played this year, and they way 2753 has played since it's inception, we may have a few more apparent contenders very soon, if they can keep it up.

Thanks for the wonderful endorsements guys but there are a lot of great teams in NJ and every one has their time. We had a good year this year as did 1676. 2753 and 1923 blew us all away last year. 56 is always a beast. I think the competition between good teams is what drives us all to work harder and go further. That's why my team tries to travel to new regions and play different competitors each season. And having lots of local off season events to train at isn't bad either.

Just imagine what we could accomplish if all these great teams got together to work on a common cause. Hmmm- now there's an idea.........

WC :cool:

smurfgirl

31-05-2010, 23:15

For MA at least...

155 - They've won the RCA a few times and always do well in competition

I believe CT lays claim to 155 (they're from Berlin), though they do compete in MA. They are a good team though. Your other MA selections are all very good teams as well.

PAR_WIG1350

31-05-2010, 23:31

What is the criteria?

I'll take an easy state.

78 for RI.

would have been 121 before this year and 1350 in (my) perfect world

Edit: It's also important to note that the Road Rebels (rookies from RI) did very well this year
//to my knowledge, this post mentions ALL RI teams

BrendanB

01-06-2010, 00:00

I think what makes it hard in some ways to determine which team is the "best" from a state is because each teams looks up to another team. It is hard to name yourself as the best when you look up to another team! Just one reason why I love FIRST! :)

ttldomination

01-06-2010, 00:10

Not a chance, good teams, but 343 is the bar in SC period

after that there are a many teams vying for #2 (342, 1102, 1398, etc)

Don't be so humble as to leave your team out.

342 had a bit of a fall out this year. Their robot was not up to their usual standards, but I can understand a off year, and I expect them to back really soon.

1319 is another team I'd offer second place to, but once again, they had a falling out this year, as their performance was as stellar as I'm used to seeing from them. But, I'm also sure that next year, they'll be back with style.

But I wouldn't mind giving the second spot to team 2815. In '09, your rookie year, you went first pick of the first seed, and even this year, first pick of the second seed, and both times, you guys seemed to have carried the alliance through the elims. I can't wait for you guys to catch lady luck and take Palmetto, and I know that day isn't that far in the future. (And I know that this year, 1398 and 2815 collaborated closely. So, I guess 2815 and 1398 are kind of in the same slot.)

- Sunny

Thermal

01-06-2010, 00:34

My nominations for SC after 1 season in FRC:
1102
1398

Going to have to go in a different direction. Historically i'd have to say 343 and 1319 top the list. 342 Historically always has very strong robots but 2010 just wasn't their year, happens to all teams. 1102 does have decent showings at Palmetto year in and year out but I wouldn't put them among the states greatest teams, but i'd give them a comfortable #5 spot.

2815 will soon be at the top of the list given their rookie and rookie+1 showings. So currently i'd have to put my list as

343
1319
342
2815
1102

If 2815 has another great showing at Palmetto next year the list for me easily becomes...

343
2815
1319
342
1102

These lists are for historical best teams in SC. The only reason I don't have 2815 at #2 now is just because they've only been in FRC for 2 years.

BradMello

01-06-2010, 06:44

Maybe I missed this, but I'm surprised no one has nominated 175 for CT... so I'm going to nominate 175 for CT. They're consistently high-performing all-around, and they live up to their HOF status always.

I have to agree with this, I've always been a huge buzz fan. ;)

It's also important to note that the Road Rebels (rookies from RI) did very well this year
//to my knowledge, this post mentions ALL RI teams

The Rhode Rebels DO deserve credit for their rookie performance this year. I knew their FTC team when they were just starting out a few years ago...and they really have got their act together.

BACONDUDE1902

01-06-2010, 09:55

im a bacon fan but 79 takes florida

gorrilla

01-06-2010, 09:56

Zflash

01-06-2010, 12:30

The South Carolina Top 10

Average Awards Per Year Rank
1319
343
342
2815
1398
1102
281
1539
1758
1051

All Other Awards 1 Point
Finalists 1.5 Points
Regional Win 2 Points
WC Finalist 2 Points
Engineering Inspiration 2 Points
Chairmans 4 Points

If the above point system is applied there is a lead change.
343
1319
342
2815
1398
1102
281
1539
1758
1051

Interesting Side fact about 1319 since it is my team. We are currently the only team in SC that has a chance to win every award given out by first due to our stellar rookie year.

Peter Matteson

01-06-2010, 13:39

I would have to disagree. Their successes were for only 3 years (2007, 2008, 2010, and the latter mostly due to their driver). That can't top 177's unbelievable consistency.

If you are talking strictly competing on the field I would have to go 1124 for CT. With the exception of the Newton finals in 2009 they have consistently bested us head to head since we won the CT regional together in 2006. Also to be quite frank about it 177 has never been a first event of the season type of team. We usually need one regional under our belts to get warmed up and get things right.

familyguyfreak

01-06-2010, 14:00

I'm going to take a stab at Texas. :)

My top 10 teams are:
148
624
704
118
57
1429
1477
231
418
922

I've only been in FIRST for two years and these teams always stand out to me every year. I feel 704 gets overlooked a lot because they had not won a regional until last year. (correct me if I am wrong please) Looking over their years, they have consistently made the elims every year at Lone Star. My team was shocked that they were still around when we picked them last year and I believe if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have won. ;)

Joe Ross

01-06-2010, 15:21

I'm making the case for 79 in FL.

Many regional wins,
Multiple chairmans,
Lots of Engineering Inspiration,
And hosting TNT.

Although they have not seemed to do as well at Championships as PINK I think it all balances out....

Florida has a lot of good teams, but 79 gets it.

According to the FIRST database, 79 has 2 regional wins, 233 has 8. 79 has 5 regional chairman's, 233 has 2. 79 has 1 engineering inspiration, 233 has 2. In total awards since 2001, 79 has 27, 233 has 48. In Championship awards since 2001, 79 has 3 and 233 has 10.

sgreco

01-06-2010, 16:19

According to the FIRST database, 79 has 2 regional wins, 233 has 8. 79 has 5 regional chairman's, 233 has 2. 79 has 1 engineering inspiration, 233 has 2. In total awards since 2001, 79 has 27, 233 has 48. In Championship awards since 2001, 79 has 3 and 233 has 10.

I love team 79, I think they're awesome...but the stats clearly show that Florida is Pink's state.

IKE

01-06-2010, 17:09

According to the FIRST database, 79 has 2 regional wins, 233 has 8. 79 has 5 regional chairman's, 233 has 2. 79 has 1 engineering inspiration, 233 has 2. In total awards since 2001, 79 has 27, 233 has 48. In Championship awards since 2001, 79 has 3 and 233 has 10.

I would ask for Florida to take a vote on best team, but my fear of "Hanging Chad" in close decisions has not fully subsided.

Sorry Floridians, I just couldn't resist.

dodar

01-06-2010, 17:29

aw man, Ike, that hurts lol

IKE

01-06-2010, 21:54

aw man, Ike, that hurts lol

Ah too soon? Yeah, that would have been better in 2020 I guess. j/k

johnr

01-06-2010, 22:47

Who's Chad and what did he do?:confused: :rolleyes: :D

swamp_child

02-06-2010, 02:03

For Florida I would have to say 1251, 233, or 1902, all for very different reasons.
233 is obviously the "Dominant" team from Florida on the national stage,

However 1251 has simply dominated Florida since 2007. Since then they have only lost the regional once (to a certain green team ;)).

1902 is the best overall team I would have to say, who else cheers in the pits?

from Hew Hampshire I would have to say 40

Mass 190(=p) or 126 probably

RI 78(121)

CT 177(pick the bobcats go to Einstein)

CA 971 or 254

IN 71(duh)

MI 67(again obvious)

WA probably 1983

jblay

02-06-2010, 02:28

For Florida I would have to say 1251, 233, or 1902, all for very different reasons.
233 is obviously the "Dominant" team from Florida on the national stage,

However 1251 has simply dominated Florida since 2007. Since then they have only lost the regional once (to a certain green team ;)).

1902 is the best overall team I would have to say, who else cheers in the pits?

I agree that while 233 often has one of the best bots in the nation they are rarely even close to that level of play at Florida. This year I don't even think they were selected for eliminations.

179 and 79 have for a while now been the 2 best teams in Florida in my opinion.

Chris is me

02-06-2010, 03:09

I agree that while 233 often has one of the best bots in the nation they are rarely even close to that level of play at Florida. This year I don't even think they were selected for eliminations.

"Rarely even close" is an overstatement. This year was an anomaly, I think, and last year they had an off year. 2008 they won, 2007 they were certainly clearly very good, and I'd be willing to bet similar things about the previous years.

waialua359

02-06-2010, 04:56

Thanks for the wonderful endorsements guys but there are a lot of great teams in NJ and every one has their time. We had a good year this year as did 1676. 2753 and 1923 blew us all away last year. 56 is always a beast. I think the competition between good teams is what drives us all to work harder and go further. That's why my team tries to travel to new regions and play different competitors each season. And having lots of local off season events to train at isn't bad either.

Just imagine what we could accomplish if all these great teams got together to work on a common cause. Hmmm- now there's an idea.........

WC :cool:
I guess you folks are SERIOUS about this. :rolleyes:

Phoenix Spud

02-06-2010, 23:52

For Australia, I don't think there is any question, 3132. :D

BrendanB

03-06-2010, 00:13

I agree that while 233 often has one of the best bots in the nation they are rarely even close to that level of play at Florida. This year I don't even think they were selected for eliminations.

179 and 79 have for a while now been the 2 best teams in Florida in my opinion.

Just remember, every team will have an off year. In 2006 team 67 had a defensive robot with little to no offense and was a third pick by they number one seed if I am correct at GLR. I don't think that even though they weren't picked for eliminations is a hindrance to a teams ability. They made it to Einstein out of the deepest division in Atlanta and were one of the top robots on Archimedes. 79, 179, and 1902 are very good teams, but 233 has by far the most awards, wins, and einstein appearances to give them the number 1 in Florida.

jblay

03-06-2010, 01:04

"Rarely even close" is an overstatement. This year was an anomaly, I think, and last year they had an off year. 2008 they won, 2007 they were certainly clearly very good, and I'd be willing to bet similar things about the previous years.

My knowledge on Pink doesn't extend very far into the past but I know that in 07 which was in my opinion their best robot they missed a couple of matches in Florida because they were still working on it but by nationals they had an absolute beast. Obviously this year they struggled in Florida and 09 was their fluke year.

I'm not saying that Pink isn't super awesome but they do have a tendency to build a lot of their bot in the pit at Florida and are not at the right level until after the event. And I think that though they are a huge part of the conversation for Florida, in my book their success outside of Florida doesn't count for much even though they have been on Einstein several times and have come so close to a national title.

timytamy

03-06-2010, 01:07

I think that 3132 is the best team in our state, country and possible our hemisphere... ;)

EricH

03-06-2010, 01:10

There are teams in Brazil and Chile, so you'll have to ask them about best in the hemisphere; I'll give you state and country, though.

I'll nominate 383 for Brazil; long record and pretty good. Not sure how many teams are in Chile, so no nomination there.

Cory

03-06-2010, 01:25

My knowledge on Pink doesn't extend very far into the past but I know that in 07 which was in my opinion their best robot they missed a couple of matches in Florida because they were still working on it but by nationals they had an absolute beast. Obviously this year they struggled in Florida and 09 was their fluke year.

I'm not saying that Pink isn't super awesome but they do have a tendency to build a lot of their bot in the pit at Florida and are not at the right level until after the event. And I think that though they are a huge part of the conversation for Florida, in my book their success outside of Florida doesn't count for much even though they have been on Einstein several times and have come so close to a national title.

I don't see what difference it makes that they don't perform as well at UCF as they do elsewhere. The sign of a good team is continuous improvement, and 233 has that down pat. How many other Florida teams have been on Einstein 4 times?

Ian H.

03-06-2010, 02:55

I'd nominate 360 for Washington State, based on student involvement and dedication. I don't know the intimate details of 488 or 1983, two other bots mentioned for Washington State, but I feel like 360 churns out some of the best team working, volunteering, engineers in Washington.

Also their robots are usually good too.

Ian H.

03-06-2010, 03:01

I'm going to have to throw in 1540 for Oregon. Although 997 has won the regional twice, I'd point to our consistent EI and RCA wins as a counter.

Based on your logic, 753, who has won the regional 3 times should also be up there. I'd argue though that if you went by regional win logic you would probably have to nominate 753's drive train since that is really what helped them and later 997 once they got their hands on the designs of the drive train, to win.

hg273

03-06-2010, 03:16

I'd look at what the team has done in their history, and their continued excellence.
753 hasn't won any award, save for the regional finalist in Utah this year, since 2006. That's an entire generation of students through the program. If it were the drivetrain that were sustaining them, then they should see sustained success.
1540 is now in it's 6 year of competition, and has qualified for the Championship for the last 4 years in a row. Additionally, we're the only team from Oregon to win an award on the international scene (Website our rookie year).

cziggy343

03-06-2010, 10:48

Well, since SC is the state I know the best... I might as well take a crack at that :D I will look at the three teams that I think are vying for the top spot.

In total awards in the history of the programs (not including regional/division wins):

343- 26
1319- 22
342- 30

In the number of regional chairman's awards:

343- 2
1319- 0
342- 4

Regional/Division Wins:

343- 10 (including 2003 Curie Champions)
1319- 4 (including 2007 Gallileo Champions)
342- 1

Robot Engineering Awards:
343- 11
1319- 5
342- 3

So, if going mostly off of the robot performance, I think that we (343) are far and away the best team in SC. But if going mostly off of the awards, 1319 takes it (because they have had less years to get those awards and are catching up fast.)

My top three from SC:
343
1319
342

Other states that pop into my head...
FL: 233
AR: 16
GA: 1771
VA: 1086
IL: 111
MI: 67
CA: 254
AL: 34
TX: 148
NV: 39
AZ: 842
NJ: 25
NY: 694
RI: 121

Andrew Schreiber

03-06-2010, 11:10

JamesBrown

03-06-2010, 11:44

RI: 121

This is an interesting debate. For RI your two obvious options are 121 or 78. 1568 (now defunct) and 1350 have not been consistently successful and 3280 is way too young to qualify.

78 split off of 121 this year, obviously if people didn't know that then it is easy to choose 121. I think that the 121 vs 78 debate comes down to one thing do you count the old 121 awards towards 78, keep in mind that most of 78's mentors were instrumental in 121 winning old awards, some of 78's mentors were 121 students going back into the 90's.

If you count the awards for both teams then I would say that 78 is the best. If you don't then 121 would get the nod because 78 is still a new number. However I would expect going forward that 78 will be the cream of the crop in RI.

Lil' Lavery

03-06-2010, 12:16

PA - 1712
VA - 116

:eek: :D
If only...

For Virginia, I'd have to give it to either 1086 or 1522, probably with 1086 edging out 1522 by stint of being a bit more consistent. I think their both great teams, but they may have to start worrying about 3136 in the next year or two, if we can keep competing as well as we did this year.

While 1086 has certainly been very very good since ~2006 (especially since 2007 onwards with the collaboration with 384 until this year), if we consider the history of the state, it gets a lot more interesting. I'm surprised nobody has brought up 122. The NASA Knights are one of the most storied teams in Virginia, and while they haven't quite been on the same standard the past few years and they were earlier in their history, they're still an excellent team.

Zflash

03-06-2010, 12:29

So, if going mostly off of the robot performance, I think that we (343) are far and away the best team in SC.

2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
1 1319 343 1319 1319 342 343 343
2 343 342 343 342 1319/343 1319/342 1319
3 342 1319 342 343 342

If you go back to 1319's rookie year of 2004 and compare the robots for each year in my opinion the robot performance area between our two teams is a dead heat. Although I am sure someone will debate my ranking as I do have a slight bias ;)

To be clear though I agree that the top 3 overall teams when considering the team's entire body of work would be.

343
1319 - You can bet we are working on it though!
342
...followed by 2815 and then 1398 which as some have said is one in the same making them a potent force to contend with in upcoming years!

cziggy343

03-06-2010, 12:45

2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
1 1319 343 1319 1319 342 343 343
2 343 1319 343 342 1319/343 1319/342 1319
3 342 342 342 343 342

If you go back to 1319's rookie year of 2004 and compare the robots for each year in my opinion the robot performance area between our two teams is a dead heat. Although I am sure someone will debate my ranking as I do have a slight bias ;)

If I were to create the same list I would have:

2004
1319 342 343

2005
343 342 1319

2006 (this is the toughest decision for #1)
343 1319 342

2007
1319 343 342

2008
343 1319 342 (although after the improvements from 1319, it was pretty much even for all three teams b/c all three had well above average robots)

2009
343 342 1319 (another close call for all three, but after our improvements for championships I placed us first)

2010
343 1319 342

But I also would want someone with no bias but a knowledge of all three teams to do this list :D

nikeairmancurry

03-06-2010, 13:48

Since no one has really debated 67 being king in Michigan I'll throw a new name in the hat. 47.

There are few teams whose name is synonymous with FIRST. Chief Delphi is one of them. Not only are they the team that gave us this wonderful forum they are also the team that brought swerve to FIRST and are at least partially responsible for the NBD white papers. They are home to some of the most dedicated mentors you will find in FIRST. I can personally attest to the spirit this team has; I walked out of my very first event with my ears ringing from the cheering of this team.

In my mind no team can compete with Chief for title of best team in Michigan. 47, now merged with 65 to become 51, is high on my list for most influential teams in FIRST.

Well, since you there also wasn't been much debate.. To throw some more notible teams into the picture...

27- Tons of awards and Wins, along with Regional Chairmans, and WFA

33- Multiple regional wins and Chairmans, and many engineering awards

217-The second team to get two world championships, WFA, Regional Chairmans, Mutiple Regional wins.. When you hear, "Thunderstruck", you know the chickens are around!

469-Former World champs, Many regional wins, Tons of engineering awards

*67 is still my pick for michigan, but it worth to look at these 4 other teams along with 47/65=51

sgreco

03-06-2010, 14:50

NV: 39

39 is from Arizona. I would pick 987 from Nevada seeing as they are the only team from Nevada to take home a national title, and have numerous other qualifications as well.

robochick1319

03-06-2010, 20:23

kjolana1124

03-06-2010, 20:52

I'll nominate 383 for Brazil; long record and pretty good.

After working with them in Hartford, I endorse that :D

Andrew Schreiber

03-06-2010, 22:20

I hate to sound like a kill-joy, but I find this whole discussion to be slightly pointless. There will never be a way any of us can agree on the order or rank of teams. Even if we develop ranking systems, there are discrapencies in the results. Furthermore, there are circumstances relating to awards and regionals that cannot be explained.

After 7 pages of posts, it seems clear that the "best teams" are usually chosen off of whims, biases, or general perceptions. What is worse, we seem to be comparing teams of different ages! A team that has won a lot in the past, but has been falling in glory over the past 5 years is often put above a team that has explosive and tremendous success in their short existence.

I wish I could see more discussion of current successes, rather than older reputations. As horrible as it might sound, we should be asking, "What have you done lately?" ::rtm::

Which is partly why this discussion is so interesting. Everyone has different criteria and reasoning. This leads to facts about teams that others did not know becoming more common knowledge.

(Plus, not to be a jerk but if you find a discussion pointless don't participate... (not that I am discouraging your posts or opinions, I actually agree with them for the most part))

ttldomination

03-06-2010, 22:41

I hate to sound like a kill-joy, but I find this whole discussion to be slightly pointless. There will never be a way any of us can agree on the order or rank of teams. Even if we develop ranking systems, there are discrapencies in the results. Furthermore, there are circumstances relating to awards and regionals that cannot be explained.

After 7 pages of posts, it seems clear that the "best teams" are usually chosen off of whims, biases, or general perceptions. What is worse, we seem to be comparing teams of different ages! A team that has won a lot in the past, but has been falling in glory over the past 5 years is often put above a team that has explosive and tremendous success in their short existence.

I wish I could see more discussion of current successes, rather than older reputations. As horrible as it might sound, we should be asking, "What have you done lately?" ::rtm::

What I find funny is that we'll go on for a while about a team in a specific state, and then a member from that team will post about how their team isn't actually the best.

Of course we'll never actually agree. But that's the point of discussions. That you enjoy talking about things and maybe butting heads with someone. That's what all of the "What's next year's game going to be" and "Who will win worlds" threads are. Just speculations based on biases and likes.

- Sunny

robochick1319

04-06-2010, 14:57

Which is partly why this discussion is so interesting. Everyone has different criteria and reasoning. This leads to facts about teams that others did not know becoming more common knowledge.

(Plus, not to be a jerk but if you find a discussion pointless don't participate... (not that I am discouraging your posts or opinions, I actually agree with them for the most part))

It is somewhat funny that when a person says "not to be a jerk", they usually follow with a somewhat rude comment. But I do understand what you mean. I didn't mean to suggest that the whole discussion was pointless (and I apologize if it came off that way). I was merely suggesting that the quality of the discussion could be better. For instance, people could provide concrete examples or legitimate statistics to show their opinions as opposed to simple speculation. :o

pakratt1991

04-06-2010, 15:14

Based on your logic, 753, who has won the regional 3 times should also be up there. I'd argue though that if you went by regional win logic you would probably have to nominate 753's drive train since that is really what helped them and later 997 once they got their hands on the designs of the drive train, to win.

That drive train has come a LONG way since we "got our hands" on it. It's shed pounds, lost size, and become much more simple... It's the same concept with some of the same geometry but at this point it's been almost fully redesigned since 753 had it. Not to mention that 6 teams used that drive train this year, if it was just the drive train that won regionals then I should have expected to see more of them win.

I do personally believe that there is much more to being the "best team" than winning regionals, while I'm bias I will be the first to admit that 1540 has come an amazing distance in 6 years. They have competed in the top tier every year since their inception, held off season learning events for local teams, mentored lego teams.... and the list goes on. They would be my pick for best team in Oregon.

Lee Reid 3136

04-06-2010, 17:30

While 1086 has certainly been very very good since ~2006 (especially since 2007 onwards with the collaboration with 384 until this year), if we consider the history of the state, it gets a lot more interesting. I'm surprised nobody has brought up 122. The NASA Knights are one of the most storied teams in Virginia, and while they haven't quite been on the same standard the past few years and they were earlier in their history, they're still an excellent team.

An excellent point. I hadn't even thought of 122 mainly because I'm a rookie, i haven't been around that much and they didn't really strike me as that good of a team the little I saw them this year.

Another good team in Virginia could be 422. They made it to the finals in the New Jersey Regional and the semis in the Virginia regional, though I don't know how well they've done in years past.

cziggy343

04-06-2010, 17:35

39 is from Arizona. I would pick 987 from Nevada seeing as they are the only team from Nevada to take home a national title, and have numerous other qualifications as well.

ouch... i usually dont make mistakes like that... o well. I would pick 987 from NV as well... not sure why i didn't the first time :o

AdamHeard

04-06-2010, 22:00

It is somewhat funny that when a person says "not to be a jerk", they usually follow with a somewhat rude comment. But I do understand what you mean. I didn't mean to suggest that the whole discussion was pointless (and I apologize if it came off that way). I was merely suggesting that the quality of the discussion could be better. For instance, people could provide concrete examples or legitimate statistics to show their opinions as opposed to simple speculation. :o

Well, it wouldn't make much sense to say "not to be a jerk", or, "no offense". then say something nice... :rolleyes:

JohnFogarty

04-06-2010, 23:27

Not a chance, good teams, but 343 is the bar in SC period

after that there are a many teams vying for #2 (342, 1102, 1398, etc)

As part of 1102 i'm impressed with 343 but our team is drastically changing ;) we still got everyone in SC on the FTC front :D

robochick1319

05-06-2010, 00:00

Well, it wouldn't make much sense to say "not to be a jerk", or, "no offense". then say something nice... :rolleyes:

Lol well that is true. However, it is not necessary to precede such negative comments with promises of positive intentions. I'm a big girl; I can handle just the comment. ;)

Lil' Lavery

05-06-2010, 14:43

An excellent point. I hadn't even thought of 122 mainly because I'm a rookie, i haven't been around that much and they didn't really strike me as that good of a team the little I saw them this year.

They won the Chairman's Award at VCU, and they didn't strike you as "that good?" :confused:

sgreco

05-06-2010, 15:35

They won the Chairman's Award at VCU, and they didn't strike you as "that good?" :confused:

This sort fo brings up a good point, some people are looking for all around qualifications for greatness and others are looking at performance on the field. To a rookie member who was presumably just looking at robot performance, although 122 was good, I can agree that this year some teams were on higer competitive level. The conversations are interesting because everyone has a slightly different percenatge of each factor that weighs into a teams accomplishments.

Lee Reid 3136

05-06-2010, 19:21

They won the Chairman's Award at VCU, and they didn't strike you as "that good?" :confused:

*facepalm* Forgot able that... and I was thinking a bit more in the terms of robot performance. Taking in to account the Chairman's award...I don't know who I put in the top spot...1086 and 122 would probably be top two. 1522 in third and 422 in fourth. Beyond that I don't know, maybe 1676, they're from New Jersey but they pretty handily cleaned up the Virginia Regional.

Lil' Lavery

05-06-2010, 21:26

*facepalm* Forgot able that... and I was thinking a bit more in the terms of robot performance. Taking in to account the Chairman's award...I don't know who I put in the top spot...1086 and 122 would probably be top two. 1522 in third and 422 in fourth. Beyond that I don't know, maybe 1676, they're from New Jersey but they pretty handily cleaned up the Virginia Regional.

I started writing a post about several Virginia teams and their histories. But I don't want to divert this thread further. You should do a little research into what Virginia teams have done at other regionals/championship and the history of teams like 612, 384, and 1731.

Mrs.Drake343

06-06-2010, 00:17

1772 is an awesome team from Brazil. They were very tough competition at Palmetto this year!

It is humbling (and really cool) to have some many say that 343 is one of the best in SC. BUT based on other factors...

342 and 1398 are very strong Chairman's teams every year. I also have a feeling that 2815 may be jumping into that next year.

343 won our first little safety pin EVER this year at Florida (kind of pathetic)...1319 wins a Safety Award ::safety:: EVERY year and sometimes at multiple regionals.

As stated earlier 1102 does dominate SC with their FTC teams. They also showed this year that they can regroup and be successful after a bad showing. They went from Florida...where they had issues... and then to Palmetto and where they were Finalists!

Now with my completely prejudice opinion, of course I think 343 is the best, but I also just love 1398!! They work extremely hard and have always been successful...just not always with robots. But now thanks to 2815 :) their robots will probably become very competitive!

Bruneau1727

07-06-2010, 14:03

I find this thread extremely interesting. I started looking at the teams in MD and realized that there are 3 teams with 1 chairman's award and 1 regional win. All three teams also have an engineering inspiration award. There are also a lot of teams that perform superbly at competitions. i think that in maryland we will have to wait until next year to pick the best team!!!!

hallk

07-06-2010, 16:19

Don't think any has mentioned this so far but for MN it has to bee 1816 in my book.

CENTURION

14-06-2010, 00:22

548swimmer

14-06-2010, 00:34

I would have to say 67 for MI. We do most of our machining out at Milford Proving Grounds and occasionally run into them. They're always nice to talk with and offer assistance at every turn. Not to mention the 3 World Champiomships thing.

Chris is me

14-06-2010, 01:34

If I may be so humble...

1306 for WI (for this year at least, hardly overall)

We won the Regional Chairmans Award AND managed to make it to the quarterfinals (if you saw our robot, you would know that was somewhat of a feat, it's basically a moving box, no kicker, no lifting, no "dribblers")
We made quarterfinals at the Championship too, placing 5th in Curie, and somewhere around 18th in the whole championship.

I'd say this year, (I am just as humble) 1714 or 1732 would have to count. EI + Regional Win and 2 SFs, or 2 Wins and QFs, with robots that have active manipulators.

If history repeats itself with regards to WI Chairman's winners, you're on the right track though, and will improve greatly once again.

smurfgirl

14-06-2010, 11:35

Don't think any has mentioned this so far but for MN it has to bee 1816 in my book.

Though I'm less familiar with MN teams than I am with teams from my own region, I'd like to second this. We worked with them in Atlanta in 2007, which brought them to my attention. I've been impressed with them ever since.

Pavan Dave

14-06-2010, 12:13

TX: 118 or 148 (Texas is big enough that it could be 2 states anyway)

118, and 148 have always stood out to me as innovating teams which seem to consistently create incredible robots and ideas (WildSwerve, Red Line, Tumble Weed, Tornado...)

As far as best team by competition means go I'd say 148 by raw wins at competitions but by overall force and strength 1 v 1, most years 118 would take it. In terms of innovation and the "wow factor" 118 takes it but in terms of simplicity and still managing to open a can of whoop-ness I'd say it belongs to 148.

Overall its a toss up. Any given year you can expect both to build great beasts, but in terms of consistency I'd say Robowranglers get it. However the Robonauts need a World Championship or at least consistently reaching Einstein to hit the top tier teams like 71, 233, and 1114.

Pavan Davé

Cheerleader1073

14-06-2010, 18:37

I'm surprised there have been no nominations for 1519 from New Hampshire! Don't get me wrong, 40 has been really good almost every year, but 1519 is consistently amazing, won Chairman's at GSR last year (and I believe won with their robot as well), had a Dean's List Finalist this year, and that's just all I could think of at the top of my head from my few years going to the same regional as them. Our team picked them this year at GSR and went on to win the regional, not only because of the shear power of the three robots on our alliance but because of the relationships that all three drive teams made right away! We're all still friends now and are even planning a summer party together with all teams who want to come! (By the way since I'm talking so much about our alliance, than you 1058 as well!). With 1519 you can tell that the robot is at least primarily student-built and that the most important thing the kids get out of it all is to have FUN! ...They just happen to win everything along the way :).

Thanks! We love you 1519!

-Genevieve

Akash Rastogi

14-06-2010, 19:43

Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

rutzman

14-06-2010, 20:28

Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

I think I have to disagree on Maryland.
While their on-the-field records are very similar, 1629 has an RCA and 2 EIs in the past three years. While I'm sure that 2377 will reach that plateau in the near future, I don't think they're quite there yet...

Lil' Lavery

14-06-2010, 21:44

Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

Not sure I'd agree with a couple of those. Certainly no offense intended to 694 in particular, but it's hard for me to say that they're better than 1126 or 340.

I think I have to disagree on Maryland.
While their on-the-field records are very similar, 1629 has an RCA and 2 EIs in the past three years. While I'm sure that 2377 will reach that plateau in the near future, I don't think they're quite there yet...

I'd probably agree. 2377 is an incredible team with an incredible team structure and mentor base. They're only going to get stronger. But 1629 has had a few more years to mature and build their program and has also set a very high standard of robots (though they don't have a ton of hardware from it).

Alex Cormier

14-06-2010, 22:16

Not sure I'd agree with a couple of those. Certainly no offense intended to 694 in particular, but it's hard for me to say that they're better than 1126 or 340.

I just made a list for NY:

20: (as of 2004) 3 champions, 2 finalists, 11 awards

191: (as of 2001, except for CA) 2 CMP CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

340: 4 CA, 2 champions, 2 division champions, 2 finalists, 12 awards

375: 2 CA, 2 champions, 5 finalists, 19 awards

395: 1 CA, 6 champions, 1 finalists, 8 awards

694: 2 CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

1126: 4 champions, 2 Division champions, 2 finalists, 9 awards

1511: 3 CA, RAS, 1 champions, 2 finalists, 17 awards

Totals;

20- 16+
191- 19+
340- 22
375- 28
395- 16
694- 19
1126- 17
1511- 24

The battle comes down to 340 vs 375 vs 1511.

Winner? Don't know.

Is there a team not up there that should be? Post it with numbers to prove it.

JamesBrown

17-06-2010, 15:23

I just made a list for NY:

20: (as of 2004) 3 champions, 2 finalists, 11 awards

The battle comes down to 340 vs 375 vs 1511.

Winner? Don't know.

Is there a team not up there that should be? Post it with numbers to prove it.

How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

Alex Cormier

17-06-2010, 15:33

How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

That's all there was on the FIRST site, I did visit the 20 site. But there is no history of awards. (Usually a good thing to add to a site)

JamesBrown

17-06-2010, 15:40

That's all there was on the FIRST site, I did visit the 20 site. But there is no history of awards. (Usually a good thing to add to a site)

I think you may have misinterpreted the part that surprised me. I couldn't find the rest of the award info either. I am not blaming you for the lack of info, just for not including them with the other three teams as your top votes. They have more than half the number of awards the other teams on the list do despite nearly 2/3 of their history is missing.

Mark McLeod

17-06-2010, 16:53

Here are all the team awards 1992-2010 (year, team, event, award)
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/AllAwards.xls

Look at the "Total Team Trophy's" tab for a sort by team/#awards

Some are missing from '93 and '94, but all the others are there.

I can add a column for country/state if you want to sort that way.
P.S. I'll post this change when I get home. It's too big to attach in a thread.

Team 20 has that oddity in their history where they were absorbed into 250 for a bit.
Other than that, they've earned 19 awards total.

P.P.S.
I've updated the linked file above to include team locations, so you can sort by your favorite location.
I should note that this is all teams ever, so some are now defunct. I should probably add a column that notes which are active (added an "Active" column).
Here are just the active NY teams ranked by total double-digit awards. You can get more sophisticated and also sort by the awards you yourself value most.
NY ----- 375 ----- 31
NY ----- 340 ----- 27
NY ----- 358 ----- 25
NY ----- 191 ----- 25
NY ---- 1511 ----- 24
NY ----- 694 ----- 21
NY ------ 20 ----- 19
NY ----- 522 ----- 19
NY ----- 250 ----- 18
NY ----- 395 ----- 18
NY ---- 1126 ----- 17
NY ----- 271 ----- 15
NY ----- 353 ----- 15
NY ----- 354 ----- 15
NY ----- 378 ----- 15
NY ----- 870 ----- 15
NY ----- 229 ----- 13
NY ----- 329 ----- 13
NY ----- 639 ----- 13
NY ----- 578 ----- 12
NY ----- 287 ----- 11
NY ---- 1155 ----- 10

Koko Ed

17-06-2010, 18:27

Mark McLeod

17-06-2010, 18:29

I know of 24 for you, but do you know what other awards 191 received in 1993 and 1994?
Chairman's is obvious of course... :)
I'd like to add more details from those two sketchy years.

Koko Ed

17-06-2010, 19:49

I know of 24 for you, but do you know what other awards 191 received in 1993 and 1994?
Chairman's is obvious of course... :)
I'd like to add more details from those two sketchy years.

We won Team Spirit in '93.

Chris is me

17-06-2010, 20:42

How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

20 and 250 have fairly complicated, intertwined histories that make figuring out which team to credit which award to fairly difficult.