2010 IRI: Match List, Facility Layout and Website Update

[Andy Baker]

All,

The Indiana Robotics Invitational website (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/) just got a ton of content added to it today.

Here are some highlights:

Qualification Match Schedule (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010-IRI-Qual-Schedule.pdf) (if all teams show up)
Facility Map and Layout (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/LNwithNatatoriumUpdate-MK6.pdf)
Schedule (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/2010-schedule/)
Event Location hyperlink (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=lawrence+north+high+school&fb=1&gl=us&hq=lawrence+north+high+school&hnear=Indianapolis,+IN&cid=0,0,390000457241226643&ei=ZI08TKnMFsH48Ab24vC9Cw&ved=0CCsQnwIwAQ&ll=39.895489,-86.037513&spn=0.005762,0.00912&z=16&iwloc=A&source=embed)
Team List (79 teams) (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/79-competing-frc-teams/)
Charity info (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/charities-helped/)
Webcast (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/webcast/)


See ya soon,
Andy B.

[rick.oliver]

Good adjustments to the rules, well thought-out.

I did not see any mention of the 5 lbs grace, the selection process and the carry your own spare that have been part of the past years.

Are all of those still in place for 2010?

[Andy Baker]

I did not see any mention of the 5 lbs grace, the selection process and the carry your own spare that have been part of the past years.

Are all of those still in place for 2010?

Yes, since there is no inspection and no scales, the 5 pound grace rule is still in effect. Teams are expected to use GP to enforce this upon themselves.

Andy B.

[Andy Baker]

Here are a few more updates:

Rules tweaks are listed here (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/rules-update/). There are no significant changes. We will have the 1-8, 1-8, 8-1 alliance selection process with 4 teams on each elimination alliance, with the alliance captain choosing who plays in each match (same as 2008, 2009 IRI). Seriously, FIRST and the GDC did an excellent job with the rules this year. The adjustments at IRI are simply tweaks and appropriate changes that we can do due to the depth of the competing field.

WPA encryption: Teams will not need to get WPA encryption code. Teams will simply need to be sure that their team number is addressed on their Classmate and their cRIO.

Practice Field: The fieldhouse will again have the wooden border practice field. Teams will simply run their robots on this field like they would at a demo, wirelessly.

120 Volts AC will be provided at the playing field driver stations for Classmate power as needed.

For Friday morning practice matches on the main field, please limit your team to one match only. With 79 teams attending, we will most likely NOT get all teams the ability to have one practice match, but we will have as many matches as we can.

Andy B.

[Justin Montois]

Are you guys keeping the ranking system used this year or are you using the "old" W-L-T system?

[Andy Baker]

Are you guys keeping the ranking system used this year or are you using the "old" W-L-T system?

The ranking system used in the 2010 Breakaway game is the same that we are using at IRI.

2 reasons:

1. After some frustration at the beginning of the year, many people grew to like this system (besides the fact that it is complex).

2. There would need to be a MAJOR software change to get the 2010 field management system to incorporate a different ranking system. This is the main reason we did not even consider making this change.

Andy

[Koko Ed]

Do I have to actually use the layout for loading teams off and on the field?
That system would work with other years but it won't work for this year.

[Andy Baker]

Ed,

Good question. Here is the conversation I had with Mark Koors today, about this:

Andy: Mark, it's ok that we split the scoring table and video production table so that teams can exit the field in from the middle zone, right?

Mark: No, there is no middle zone gate on that side of the field. Teams just need to leave the field through the closest gate to them.

Andy: Teams can't leave the field on the same side that they entered. That would be baaaad, right?

Mark: That would require teams to push robots over bumps. I can't get a 6 minute cycle if robots are being pushed over bumps.

Andy: Hmmm... what if they pushed the robots over the bumps quickly?

Mark: No

Andy: So, what should we do?

Mark: Teams need to be able to leave the field whichever side they choose, but if they can leave on the scorer's table side, that is preferred.

Andy: OK

So, to answer your question, Ed, you que-ers will just need to follow Mark's lead on this.

Andy

[Koko Ed]

Ed,

Good question. Here is the conversation I had with Mark Koors today, about this:

Andy: Mark, it's ok that we split the scoring table and video production table so that teams can exit the field in from the middle zone, right?

Mark: No, there is no middle zone gate on that side of the field. Teams just need to leave the field through the closest gate to them.

Andy: Teams can't leave the field on the same side that they entered. That would be baaaad, right?

Mark: That would require teams to push robots over bumps. I can't get a 6 minute cycle if robots are being pushed over bumps.

Andy: Hmmm... what if they pushed the robots over the bumps quickly?

Mark: No

Andy: So, what should we do?

Mark: Teams need to be able to leave the field whichever side they choose, but if they can leave on the scorer's table side, that is preferred.

Andy: OK

So, to answer your question, Ed, you que-ers will just need to follow Mark's lead on this.

Andy

It's gonna be organized chaos all day long.

[dodar]

Isn't that the FIRST re-set crew motto?

AH! :ahh: That should have been this years saying on the t-shirts

[Alex Cormier]

Ed,

Good question. Here is the conversation I had with Mark Koors today, about this:

Andy: Mark, it's ok that we split the scoring table and video production table so that teams can exit the field in from the middle zone, right?

Mark: No, there is no middle zone gate on that side of the field. Teams just need to leave the field through the closest gate to them.

Andy: Teams can't leave the field on the same side that they entered. That would be baaaad, right?

Mark: That would require teams to push robots over bumps. I can't get a 6 minute cycle if robots are being pushed over bumps.

Andy: Hmmm... what if they pushed the robots over the bumps quickly?

Mark: No

Andy: So, what should we do?

Mark: Teams need to be able to leave the field whichever side they choose, but if they can leave on the scorer's table side, that is preferred.

Andy: OK

So, to answer your question, Ed, you que-ers will just need to follow Mark's lead on this.

Andy

Mark can't add a gate to that side too? :p

[JaneYoung]

It's gonna be organized chaos all day long.

Hey Queue Boss,

I 'need' an hour off for a NEM meeting. I don't know when it is or where it is but I know I 'need' to be there. If you say no, can I call in sick for 1 hour? Am I helping with the chaos thing so far? I want to be sure and do a good job.

*jumping up and down in excitement as an IRI que-er, working with Koko Ed-the-AWEsome!*

[Chris is me]

After reading the match list I have a few conclusions to draw:

1. This is 1501's event to shine in after bad luck this season. I would be shocked if they didn't make Top 8.
2. 469's playing in the last match. The entire Top 8 will depend on the results.
3. 1086 and 1714 never meet in qualifications, so no epic cheese battles.

[Knufire]

469's playing in the last match. The entire Top 8 will depend on the results.


Oh god. Just like the MSC qualifications. O.o

[Josh Drake]

There was a lot of hype in Atlanta about Curie match 100. What matches stand out on this list? I know all 8 matches are going to be epic for every team, but for our team match 68 stands out a little more.:ahh:
This is going to be a blast!

[Chris Hibner]

All,

The Indiana Robotics Invitational website (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/) just got a ton of content added to it today.

Here are some highlights:

Qualification Match Schedule (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010-IRI-Qual-Schedule.pdf) (if all teams show up)
Facility Map and Layout (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/LNwithNatatoriumUpdate-MK6.pdf)
Schedule (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/2010-schedule/)
Event Location hyperlink (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=lawrence+north+high+school&fb=1&gl=us&hq=lawrence+north+high+school&hnear=Indianapolis,+IN&cid=0,0,390000457241226643&ei=ZI08TKnMFsH48Ab24vC9Cw&ved=0CCsQnwIwAQ&ll=39.895489,-86.037513&spn=0.005762,0.00912&z=16&iwloc=A&source=embed)
Team List (79 teams) (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/79-competing-frc-teams/)
Charity info (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/charities-helped/)
Webcast (http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/webcast/)


See ya soon,
Andy B.


So, does this mean that if we go to IHOP on Friday morning, we're not going to get a call wondering where we are as the first match starts?

[Josh Drake]

1. This is 1501's event to shine in after bad luck this season. I would be shocked if they didn't make Top 8.

It will be nice to see that machine up close.

[kenavt]

Personally as a member of 2337, I am looking forward most to match #15, where we are on a team with 1114 and 292 vs. 148, 503, and 1741.

[Joe Ross]

If the qualification match schedule has to be updated Friday morning, will the updated schedule be posted for those of us at home?

[Andy Baker]

So, does this mean that if we go to IHOP on Friday morning, we're not going to get a call wondering where we are as the first match starts?

If the qualification match schedule has to be updated Friday morning, will the updated schedule be posted for those of us at home?


These are outstanding questions.

Chris: no, unless (dare I say...) we have to re-create the match schedule. At this point, I believe that the only way we would have to do that is due to a team simply not showing up.

If we do re-run the match schedule, I will make sure everyone knows it at IRI with multiple announcements, and I will also upload it to the IRI website. Let's hope that does not happen.

I am saddened that Joe won't be at IRI. We will miss you, Joe!

Andy B.

[Greg Needel]

Personally as a member of 2337, I am looking forward most to match #15, where we are on a team with 1114 and 292 vs. 148, 503, and 1741.

team 148 is not in match 15. I believe you are playing against our friends the thunder chickens :)

[Nawaid Ladak]

There was a lot of hype in Atlanta about Curie match 100. What matches stand out on this list? I know all 8 matches are going to be epic for every team, but for our team match 68 stands out a little more.:ahh:
This is going to be a blast!

Archimedes Qualification 119 drew about the same crowd at championship that Curie QM 100 did. The ten matches that stood out to me on this match scedule were QM's 6, 10, 15, 36, 45, 51, 68, 79, 85 and 94

[johnr]

Personally as a member of 2337, I am looking forward most to match #15, where we are on a team with 1114 and 292 vs. 148, 503, and 1741.

I never could tell you what bot could do what. So, is there any chance of a double suspension at iri? If yes ,which match?

[Josh Drake]

I think some teams were making arrangements to suspend robots from their robot, so we may just have to see what people show up with.:D

Will we have another 6 keepers match of 2007?

If not 2 suspended robots, maybe 6 or 12 scored in autonomous!!!

[Jeremy Germita]

Personally, I look forward to watching Qualifications match 12.
1501, 469, 399 v 2081, 330, 1675
3 of my favorite 'bots on one alliance!

[Chris is me]

Perhaps I'm far, far behind the loop, but is there no uncrating / setup on Thursday?

[Ricky Q.]

Perhaps I'm far, far behind the loop, but is there no uncrating / setup on Thursday?

http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/2010-schedule/

2010 IRI Public Agenda

Thursday, July 15, 2010

5:00 PM Teams can set up pits
7:00 PM Teams finish setting up pits and leave facility

Friday, July 16, 2010

7:30 AM Doors Open
9:00 AM Practice Matches
10:15 AM Opening Ceremonies
11:00 AM Matches Begin
5:30 PM Dinner Begins
6:30 PM Matches End
7:30 PM Talent Show Begins
9:00 PM Talent Show Ends

Saturday, July 17, 2010
7:30 AM Doors Open
8:00 AM Opening Ceremonies / Awards
8:30 AM Matches Begin
Noon Matches End
12:15 PM Alliance Selection
12:30 PM Mentor Tournament
1:45 PM Eliminations Begin
4:00 PM Eliminations End / Awards

[kenavt]

team 148 is not in match 15. I believe you are playing against our friends the thunder chickens :)

I stand corrected. Either way, I can't wait for that match!

I never could tell you what bot could do what. So, is there any chance of a double suspension at iri? If yes ,which match?

Checking over our eight qualification matches, there is never an opportunity to have a double suspension (I'm assuming you mean two robots hanging off of a third). However, there's always eliminations, like at TARDEC where we had 201 and 2619 on an alliance with us!

[Chris is me]

Thanks for the help. When I checked yesterday, the schedule page didn't mention Thursday. Now of course when I find out when uncrating is my plans change and they don't apply to me anymore :P

I guarantee a 6 point auto will happen at IRI. 5 was achieved a lot, and the main difference between 5 and 6 is sheer dumb luck.

Excited for IRI!!

[Koko Ed]

Checking over our eight qualification matches, there is never an opportunity to have a double suspension (I'm assuming you mean two robots hanging off of a third). However, there's always eliminations, like at TARDEC where we had 201 and 2619 on an alliance with us!

I wonder what we're more likely too see this weekend: a double suspension or a match with six robots hanging at once.

[EricH]

I wonder what we're more likely too see this weekend: a double suspension or a match with six robots hanging at once.
How many robots are there that are capable of suspension? If you don't have at least 2, I'd go with 6 robots at once, no suspensions. If you have at least 2, and they are in the same match, I'll go with both happening at the same time, with the alliance that has 3 elevated (not suspended) winning by a single ball.

[Chris is me]

As far as my data shows, only one team, 2337, can suspend at the IRI, and they got a schedule with virtually no hangers.

[Koko Ed]

As far as my data shows, only one team, 2337, can suspend at the IRI, and they got a schedule with virtually no hangers.

There's a possibility that it could happen in elims.

[Kyle Love]

I am going to IRI as a spectator this year, this may be a hard thing to do. :rolleyes: I hope to see a lot of you guys down there!

[Andy Baker]

I stand corrected. Either way, I can't wait for that match!

Checking over our eight qualification matches, there is never an opportunity to have a double suspension (I'm assuming you mean two robots hanging off of a third). However, there's always eliminations, like at TARDEC where we had 201 and 2619 on an alliance with us!

Based on my predicted scores, I think the highest scoring matches will be 68, 51, 10, 23, 35, 49, 15, 79

Sadly, NO, no, and no. We had to RE-GENERATE the match list. !!!!!

One team did not show up (832), as they could not make the trip at the last minute.

So, I am updating the IRI website now. http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IRIMatch-version2-7-16-2010.pdf.

Thank you for your patience.

Andy Baker

[Chris27]

Match 31 is like 100% more awesome now. Someone is going to record that right?

[kenavt]

As far as my data shows, only one team, 2337, can suspend at the IRI, and they got a schedule with virtually no hangers.

With the new schedule, we don't have the opportunity for a double suspension in the qualifications at IRI.

[ProgramLuke]

I can't see the webcast, has it started yet?

[EricH]

I can't see the webcast, has it started yet?It has; 126 viewers are on.

[Joe Ross]

With the new match schedule, here's my predictions for highest scoring matches

15, 29, 5, 49, 81, 89, 99

[ProgramLuke]

Am I at the right URL?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/IRIevent/v3

[EricH]

Yep, right URL.

[gblake]

What is the best way to keep the Ads down to a minimum?

All too often when I try to click on the "X" to close one, I'm a pixel off-target and the danged Ad takes over my screen.

[Joe Ross]

What is the best way to keep the Ads down to a minimum?

All too often when I try to click on the "X" to close one, I'm a pixel off-target and the danged Ad takes over my screen.

If you watch it long enough, the ads go away.

[Joe Ross]

Match 33: 135, 1902, 1730 vs 107, 910, 469: 0 - 38!

[Alex Cormier]

Match 33: 135, 1902, 1730 vs 107, 910, 469: 0 - 38!

How did 32-11 happen in match 41? I was in a meeting at work. :p

[kstl99]

Are the current standings posted anywhere?

[EricH]

Are the current standings posted anywhere?
Not yet. They'll be on the IRI site after matches end today.


Oh, and there was a triple hang in match 51.

[Barry Bonzack]

Match 33: 135, 1902, 1730 vs 107, 910, 469: 0 - 38!

Any match we do from here out will now seem like huge improvement. Props to 469.

[gblake]

... Oh, and there was a triple hang in match 51.
Didn't some GDC-ish Poobahs wager a donut or two on when this would first occur? - I remember some sort of a bet. - Who won it/them?

[johnr]

It was great having a webcast. Now maybe someone with one of those new phones will broadcast the talent show.

[waialua359]

How did 32-11 happen in match 41? I was in a meeting at work. :p
It was a straight up match where we played near and robowranglers played back, middle and front until we both got all the balls in our zone into the loop.

Defense was played by TTT the whole match.

Ou job was to block them out to one side while the looper was in full swing by mid match. It worked out great.

[Basel A]

Didn't some GDC-ish Poobahs wager a donut or two on when this would first occur? - I remember some sort of a bet. - Who won it/them?

That was double suspension (2 robots off one robot off the tower) as opposed to a triple elevation (3 robots off the tower directly).

GDC lost, fairly sure it was a regular season bet, with us as their only hope. :D

[Barry Bonzack]

at work and the IRI website seems to be blocked, but youstream isn't. anyone have a direct link?

Thanks.

[Sunbun]

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/indianaroboticsinvitational.org :(

Anyone have the alliance list? Thanks in advance.

[Barry Bonzack]

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/indianaroboticsinvitational.org :(

Anyone have the alliance list? Thanks in advance.

does that mean the youstream is down too?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86339

[Sunbun]

does that mean the youstream is down too?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/irievent

[Ian Curtis]

IRI: Where the Egos Go to Tie. :ahh:

[Barry Bonzack]

Congrats 469, 330, 359, and 399!

[Kit Gerhart]

There must have been a record number of ties in the elimination rounds at IRI, and a record number of very good teams that didn't get picked. The field was that deep.

Congrats to 469, 330, 359, and 399. Also, congrats to all of the teams who made sure that no one was going to win this event without playing extremely well and mistake-free, every step of the way.

[vance]

All of 1058 is sitting here in a hotel room going over our excellent weekend in IRI, and we all would like to thank 910 Foley Freeze, 343 Metal-In-Motion, and 111 WildStang for joining us in the eliminations. We'd also like to thank 1519 Mechanical Mayhem for helping us out with scouting multiple times during the competition. Their scouting team is a force to be reckoned with on its own.

We'd also like to thank 910 for keeping us refreshed with freeze pops throughout the competion, and giving us two bags of dry ice which have provided much fun on the drive home.