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With the end of IRI it's time to start signing up for season four. Sign on up. Before you do a disclaimer:
Please make sure you have the time to devote to 50+ drafts within a one month period while I'm not going to require 50+ lists because I don't even know what weeks the regionals are on but what I will do is if you miss five drafts in a row (that means if you don't make one pick or have sent me a list) you will receive a PM from me. If I don't receive a timely response (24 hours) you are booted from the league! Trust me I'm very serious about this. Every year I have booted 25 to 40% of the league every year due to delinquency. I put alot of my own personal time into this and I can't stand having it wasted so if you really can't find the time don't bother signing up. Seriously.
1. Koko Ed
Vikesrock
17-07-2010, 21:43
I'm definitely in and will likely be able to help with drafts and scoring again
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
ATannahill
17-07-2010, 22:15
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
I'm ready. Kevin, did you finish the changes to your program?
Barry Bonzack
17-07-2010, 22:21
I was wondering when this would get started up so I could join again. I should update my scouting base before the drafts roll around.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
Vikesrock
17-07-2010, 22:26
I'm ready. Kevin, did you finish the changes to your program?
I don't want to clog up this thread with discussion on that so I'll respond here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86162
Chris is me
17-07-2010, 23:48
I'm in again. Should be a bit more better at it.
Akash Rastogi
18-07-2010, 03:27
In
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
Kellen Hill
18-07-2010, 04:31
Sign me up!
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
Clinton Bolinger
18-07-2010, 10:50
I'm game, after taking a year off from FF.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
Chris is me
18-07-2010, 11:09
Idea: A week before the first draft can we have everyone who signed up post again to confirm their participation?
Lemme know if you need help running a draft.
Barry Bonzack
19-07-2010, 00:00
Idea: A week before the first draft can we have everyone who signed up post again to confirm their participation?
Lemme know if you need help running a draft.
Confirm, or send a pick list for at least one event.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH (who will take on the draft-running and scoring again--error-checking too. :) )
Good idea: If you are intending to be an active participant, subscribe to this thread and set it for updates every week or so. Reminders in your email and all that.
Obligatory scoring reminders:
Coopertition Bonus, 2 points ( Win)
Tie, 1 point
No bonus, 0 points (Loss)
Win, 30 points
Finalist, 20 points
Semifinalist, 10 points
Quarterfinalist, 4 points
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points
WFFA, 8 points
RCA, 42 points
EI, 36 points
RAS, 20 points
Rookie Inspiration, 15 points
Coopertition Award, 10 points
Highest Rookie Seed, 5 points
High score, 5 points
Judges Award, 5 points
Robot-based award (Delphi, Xerox, GM, Rockwell), 15 points
Dean’s List, 4 points
Any award not previously mentioned, 2 points
And by the way, Ed is not kidding when he says he'll kick you out. If it's the last draft of the main drafting window, and you haven't responded to that PM about missing 5 drafts in a row, every other player will be grabbing your good teams at the end of that draft day!
Other miscellaneous (for first-timers): drafts are 3-team drafts, run serpentine style 1-n, n-1, 1-n, at varying time intervals. For drafts where there are not enough teams for all players to get 3, players will be broken into as many tiers as needed to get everyone three teams.
*stops talking about the fine details and starts checking over secret weapon of graciously professional FF doom*
I will take my first shot at this.
Thanks Ed,
-RC
*I can help with running drafts if you need a body*
XaulZan11
19-07-2010, 13:02
Is there a deadline to sign up? I want to do it, but I'm not sure I'll have the time to create all the lists. If possible, I would like to sign up a couple of days before the first draft, once I have several of the lists done.
I also have one suggestion. One thing that kinda annoyed me last year was the mad rush to pick up booted people's teams. I think those people get WAY too much of an advantage just because they posted first. Perhaps, we can make it that you must drop the team from that round or the following round. So, if you pick up the drops persons 1st round pick, you must drop either you first or second round pick (depending on the rule). This way you have to give up some value for an elite team, instead of just your last pick.
Chris is me
19-07-2010, 14:32
I'd prefer this rule - if a team is picked from the randomizer, any other player can pick that team as if they weren't assigned to that player. If a player picks a team previously randomly assigned, the player getting the random team picks up the next one.
Basically, I see no reason to reward sheer dumb luck.
The deadline is the day before the first draft.
As for picking randomly assigned teams...
In order to allow random teams to be picked after being assigned, the fact that it was a random pick needs to be noted. Sometimes, the next team on a player's list is also the next team on the random list, or the player requests a random pick. Either of the latter two cases would naturally bar the team from being picked again, as the second is effectively saying, "my list from here on is the random list". If truly random picks are designated with an "R" or something, it would make tracking that easier. It would also allow for tracking who has not made a pick that particular day.
As for dealing with a mad rush, that's going to happen anyway.
Here are my suggestions:
After a draft concludes, a 24-hour wait (until the next day's drafts end) is imposed before any changes can be made in that draft. During that time, random picks may be confirmed by the player, and errors are checked for. Trades posted during that time are counted as provisional; i.e., assuming that nobody confirms random teams. After the hold expires, all provisional trades are confirmed. Confirming a random team counts as making a pick, with the provision that simply confirming some X random alliances (>= 5) is dealt with the same as missing 5 drafts.
In the case of someone being booted, there is a hold imposed until the beginning of the next day's draft(s). This allows the runners to clean up the drafts involved, and all other players to plan for what teams they want. As soon as the next day's drafts officially begin at 7 EST (or other designated time), it's first-come-first-served. PMs may be sent to proxies if a player will not be online at the time of the draft beginning; if the proxy can get there before the other players, so much the better.
Just some suggestions.
Chris is me
19-07-2010, 15:11
One idea: Don't assign random picks on the spot, but after the draft has concluded. That way the first guy who didn't send in a list doesn't randomly pick up 111 or whomever, and it still allows lazy people like me to make incomplete lists.
ATannahill
19-07-2010, 15:17
One idea: Don't assign random picks on the spot, but after the draft has concluded. That way the first guy who didn't send in a list doesn't randomly pick up 111 or whomever, and it still allows lazy people like me to make incomplete lists.
This is the only idea I like. Instead of a random team the player gets ____, they can arrive later and change it out or after the draft it will be filled randomly.
I don't like the locks on the drafts until the day before the competition.
I don't like the locks on the drafts until the day before the competition.You mean after, right? As in, after the draft? Because if you didn't read it that way, then I think you're misunderstanding me.
I'm not sure I like the blank spaces idea. Could it be done? Probably. But let's say that Elgin Clock is playing and says, I want all random picks in the Hawaii Regional. Do you a) give him random teams in the draft while it is still going on, or do you b) wait until the end, when the random list is mostly empty and has no good teams left on it? Either way, somebody's going to be unhappy about it.
[Note: I'm picking on Elgin because he has the tendency to make random picks late in the season; no other reason.]
Vikesrock
19-07-2010, 21:16
At the risk of overwhelming this thread with a bunch of different suggedtions I'm going to throw mine into the mix.
I recommend leaving the random team system the way it is. It still penalizes players for missing drafts and does so much more severely than systems in other fantasy sports which assign the next highest player on a projected points list.
My idea for team pickup is to institute a waiver wire. What this means is that each player is assigned a waiver priority. The initial priorities would be reverse order of finish from last year's season league with new players inserted at the top in random order. When new teams are added to events or a player is booted the team will be placed on waivers. A team remains on waivers for some set period of time (probably 24 hours) where players can submit waiver claims, then the team gets processed. The player with the highest priority that puts in a claim is awarded the team. That player then moves to the bottom of the priority list. If a player wants to make multiple claims during one waiver period they must list the order they want their claims processed in. If a team passes through waivers with no claims they become free and anyone can pick them up at any time.
Reading my explanation, it sounds really confusing, but the system is really not quite as complicated as it sounds.
The waiver priority list and claims would all be handled in one thread which I would volunteer to handle.
I'm in (also for my first season).
So, what you're saying is that new players and players who did poorly last year get first crack at newly available teams. Anybody who wants X newly available team submits a claim, then the team goes to whoever has top priority and wants them. If you claim a team successfully, you're automatically at the bottom of the priority list--and if nobody wants a team during the waiver period, they're designated a free agent, first-come-first-serve.
I like it.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
Vikesrock
19-07-2010, 21:50
I like it.
Yep, that summary is pretty much right on. We can tune the waiver period to make it closer to first come-first serve or closer to giving good teams away to players that haven't performed as well to help balance things.
For the small number of inseason changes that happen, the priority would likely be the inverse of the standings as of that week.
I was thinking more like this:
newly-available team: Any team that becomes available for any reason more than X time after a draft (say 24 hours--that's usually enough time to settle down any post-draft trades).
During the drafting/build seasons, newly-available teams go through the waiver process as outlined above.
During competition, the priority is based on number of missing teams, and current standings (each missing team being equivalent to Y leapfrogs higher up the list, and standings in reverse order).
Chris is me
19-07-2010, 22:07
At the risk of overwhelming this thread with a bunch of different suggedtions I'm going to throw mine into the mix.
I recommend leaving the random team system the way it is. It still penalizes players for missing drafts and does so much more severely than systems in other fantasy sports which assign the next highest player on a projected points list.
The problem is that it penalizes the people diligent enough to actually care who they draft too. I don't see how replacing a team with a blanked out square for a half hour will kill the drafts.
If someone is making a lot of random picks, they'll probably get the boot anyways. If someone simply missed a draft due to unforeseeable circumstances, then they'll be much relieved that they got a good team. Or, what's more likely, they ran out of teams on their list and will take whoever, so it's not like the teams are going to be the greatest anyway. If 111 slips to the third round of a draft with one or two random teams, and gets picked by the randomizer for somebody, there are much worse problems than the randomizer!
I fail to see how replacing a team with a blanked-out square will help anything at all.
Vikesrock
19-07-2010, 22:58
The problem is that it penalizes the people diligent enough to actually care who they draft too. I don't see how replacing a team with a blanked out square for a half hour will kill the drafts.
I just feel that giving people that miss a draft the absolute bottom of the barrel is too harsh.
I don't see the randomizer as penalizing people that show up, the randomizer will never be better than people who are actually putting time into their lists over the number of events in this league. What the randomizer does do is give some chance of getting a decent team or two if you miss a draft for whatever reason. For example, I missed one draft all of last season because I fell asleep before the draft and had forgotten to send in my list, the randomizer helped soften the blow a little by giving me at least one team I held onto.
ATannahill
19-07-2010, 23:01
I would like to hear Ed's take on this.
In for now.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
As for issues:
1) There needs to be a better method for when people are dropped from the league than who can hit enter fastest. In a sports fantasy league there are "undroppable" players to prevent people from having first round draft picks all over. It is also quite unfair when there are multiple tiers and one ends up with 10 people and the other ends up with 5. I know, I benefited from this multiple times.
I don't think the waiver line quite addresses this, particularly when there are an unbalanced number of people in each.
A proposed solution: Break people into actual tiers (maybe 6-8 people each) that you always draft against. For instance, perhaps Barry and Kevin would always be tier 1 and Eric and I are always tier 2 (for this year). Base it on previous years' (note plural) initially. After that, have promotions/relegation at the end of the year like soccer in Europe. Maybe the bottom two drop a tier and top two go up a tier. That way a lot of the issues are solved. Folks in tier 1 and probably 2 at the least will not have people dropping, missing lots of drafts, etc.
Even if someone drops from a tier, you are not going to have a major advantage (see below for a couple of ideas on what to do with the teams).
Potential issue: is only tier one in competition for "awards"? (you probably can't use overall point total, particularly if the number of people in each tier is unbalanced)
Maybe have this for the "regular season" and then for the "postseason" (MSC, Championships) have a mass event.
2) "New teams" - I like the waiver wire approach here, but I think that the team needs to be announced in the draft that it has been added once it is noticed with 24 hours or so after the announcing to claim the team.
Issue: two people claim a team... who gets it.
The issue I have with the proposed waiver line is thus: 1) I was first in line, but yesterday 1816 showed up as an option for Wisconsin. Knowing it would be an upgrade, I grabbed them. Today, 67 showed up as an option for Kettering. I have no chance of getting them now. 2) I just grabbed 1816 for Wisconsin. Now I can lay a claim to any team I want with no repercussions to my waiver line position until someone actually grabs a team.
Also, who is going to keep track of the waiver line order and how will it be done? With random tiers, two people grab 67, who gets put last on the waiver line?
Proposed solution(s): I like the idea of different levels of claims. For instance in case 1, I am willing to grab 1816 at a level three, but 67 at a level one. If someone wants 1816 at a level two, they have a higher priority, but if I am first in line at level one, I get 67 even if I just got 1816. The issue is this is even harder to keep track of.
Maybe you have to give up a team in the that draft and the person with the highest offer (in terms of draft position) gets the new team, but drops the old team. The newly dropped team then has the same procedure. Only issue is that changes close to the add/drop deadline are very difficult. This might not be a big issue though.
I think overall, I like the second method better. It can also be used when someone quits the league or is kicked out.
3) Random picks. I am fine how things went this season for the random picks. Yes, it sucks when the random pick before is what you want, but it is very rare.
If it is a major sticking point, perhaps for the first round only, leave the space blank until the end of the round and then fill with a random. I would want to leave an exception there for someone who specifically says random, whether via PM or in the draft thread. It might be because they have looked and are okay with what they see.
Just some ideas.
I know that I do my best to have the same number of people in each tier when running a draft. Having the same number of people in each tier in every draft is well-nigh impossible.
We did used to run where players X, Y, and Z could expect to be all in the same tier, given the same number of tiers. It was determined that more people seemed to like completely random, so that was switched to. (Something about always getting stuck with Barry or Kevin in your tier being, well, annoying, to say the least.) The main reason the tiers changed size was that people dropped out. Some tiers were decimated due to the first 5 drops randomly winding up there.
We've had the promotion/demotion idea proposed before. Ed declined it, saying that if someone wanted to run it that way, then they could start their own league.
The idea with the waivers is that, whenever somebody drops or a new team is detected in the list, any teams affected would go on waivers, with waiver priority given to lower-ranked players (higher on the priority list) and the addition announced.
To address your issues with the waiver idea:
1) If you want to make multiple claims before a waiver period expires, go right ahead and specify which one is to get priority. Let's say that 1114 enters Los Angeles and 67 enters Arizona later the same day. You claim both, and I claim both, but you specify that 67 is to take priority and I specify 1114 as top priority. As long as the waiver period has not expired for team X when team Y is claimed, if Y is specified as a priority, then Y would go to you instead of X.
2) Pretty much. That's a problem? If they're any good, somebody farther up the list will claim them. (Look, if 1114 passes through an entire waiver period without being claimed except by the person on the bottom of the priority chain, then that person deserves to get them, because nobody else is awake!)
Two people in different tiers grabbing the same incoming team: maintain current list order would work pretty well.
I was thinking that any teams dropped as a result of waiver trades should also go on waivers, but free-agent (pool) trades would be pretty much unregulated, the same as previously. Specify the waiver trade team (i.e., 67, 111, 16 are your alliance in Midwest, and 1114 becomes available, you specify that you'd ditch 111 to pick up 1114).
As for who would run the waivers, Kevin has volunteered, and I can assist as well (hey, I'm the guy who's always looking for missing teams, why not add new teams?).
Two things to remember: 1) any teams not claimed off waiver go into the pool.
2) Unless and until Ed says to go for it, all the talk we're having is merely speculation.
I know that I do my best to have the same number of people in each tier when running a draft. Having the same number of people in each tier in every draft is well-nigh impossible.
We did used to run where players X, Y, and Z could expect to be all in the same tier, given the same number of tiers. It was determined that more people seemed to like completely random, so that was switched to. (Something about always getting stuck with Barry or Kevin in your tier being, well, annoying, to say the least.) The main reason the tiers changed size was that people dropped out. Some tiers were decimated due to the first 5 drops randomly winding up there.
We've had the promotion/demotion idea proposed before. Ed declined it, saying that if someone wanted to run it that way, then they could start their own league.
All who are running it have done a great job of keeping things as close to even as possible initially. The people dropping with random tier assignments is not the league's fault - it happens. I just wonder if there is a way to make this issue less of an impact.
I wasn't clear about the assigned tiers. I was only thinking of using that in a promotion/demotion situation (I think I put the cart before the horse there). Without that, I would agree that it is best to stay random.
The idea with the waivers is that, whenever somebody drops or a new team is detected in the list, any teams affected would go on waivers, with waiver priority given to lower-ranked players (higher on the priority list) and the addition announced.
How are the rankings determined, particularly pre-competition season? A random initial followed by going to the back of the line? Does this change to order based on points during the season?
To address your issues with the waiver idea:
1) If you want to make multiple claims before a waiver period expires, go right ahead and specify which one is to get priority. Let's say that 1114 enters Los Angeles and 67 enters Arizona later the same day. You claim both, and I claim both, but you specify that 67 is to take priority and I specify 1114 as top priority. As long as the waiver period has not expired for team X when team Y is claimed, if Y is specified as a priority, then Y would go to you instead of X.
2) Pretty much. That's a problem? If they're any good, somebody farther up the list will claim them. (Look, if 1114 passes through an entire waiver period without being claimed except by the person on the bottom of the priority chain, then that person deserves to get them, because nobody else is awake!)
I think I was a bit unclear. So, 1816 decides to join the Wisconsin regional. I was in front of the line. I know they are a good team - good chance to make eliminations, win an award, maybe go deep in eliminations, but they are by no means a perceived guarantee. They are probably a second round draft or maybe late first depending on who is at Wisconsin. They are a clear upgrade over my third round pick. I pick them up, moving to the back of the line. The day after I pick them up, 67 decides to join Kettering. Obviously, they are a first round pick anywhere. Now I am at the end of the line though with no chance of getting them.
So now people clam up and wait for the next powerhouse team. Will 111 go to Boilermaker? 217 to FLR? 330 to Arizona? etc While waiting, the last person is just happily upgrading with teams like 1816 that are upgrades, but not powerhouses. I know an 1114 type team will not make it to the end of the waiver line (unless everyone ends up in a day long coma), but what about teams that are very good teams, but not powerhouses?
Personally, that is what I like about the pseudo-auction. The only issue is that it could lead to a long string of "auctions" if an exceptionally strong team shows up.
fireyoshi
22-07-2010, 19:19
Count me in! I'm excited and slightly scared at the hardcore-ness of fantasy FIRST.
Is there a deadline to sign up? I want to do it, but I'm not sure I'll have the time to create all the lists. If possible, I would like to sign up a couple of days before the first draft, once I have several of the lists done.
I also have one suggestion. One thing that kinda annoyed me last year was the mad rush to pick up booted people's teams. I think those people get WAY too much of an advantage just because they posted first. Perhaps, we can make it that you must drop the team from that round or the following round. So, if you pick up the drops persons 1st round pick, you must drop either you first or second round pick (depending on the rule). This way you have to give up some value for an elite team, instead of just your last pick.
The last day to sign up would be Tuesday November 30th though I'm leaning to start the drafts a little earlier on Friday the 26th of November.
I would like to hear Ed's take on this.
If you guys think the whole waiver thing is more fair than the first come first serve basis then by all means let's try it.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
If you guys think the whole waiver thing is more fair than the first come first serve basis then by all means let's try it.
I think that it'll result in a closer, more fun end result. It'll also slow down the mad scramble every time somebody drops...
To answer some of RMiller's questions: Initial position would be determined by final overall score from last season (all regionals + MSC + Championships), highest score at the bottom. Newcomers would go to the top, in random order. (NOTE: I would also go with using IRI scores for anybody competing in the IRI FF league that did not compete in Season Long last year.)
During the season (i.e., after competition begins) the most recent scores would be used, should a team go onto waivers. Waiver times would most likely be shortened from whatever is used during draft and build seasons.
You do raise a good point; however, I would like to note that no waiver time has been set yet. It could be a week, it could be an hour. 1-2 days is probably what we'll go with. The decision, in the end, will have to come down to the drafter's strategy. (Also note that it's pretty rare for a powerhouse to suddenly change where they're going.)
Going with the scenario where somebody at the bottom is busily upgrading with mid-level teams while everybody else waits for powerhouses, if they do that, more power to them. It wouldn't be too hard to impose an extra restriction: Last (or last X) person on the list can't participate in the next waivers.
Chris is me
22-07-2010, 21:36
Can someone make a short and concise post explaining exactly what the change in procedure is to me? I see a lot of back and forth but it's very hard to follow and understand exactly what's going on.
Waiver process: A newly-available team (one that is free as a result of being a late addition, or a player dropping out) goes on waivers for X time. During that time, anybody in that tier can put in a claim for that team. A priority list is kept of all the players--highest priority to claim a team gets them, drops a team, and goes to the bottom of the list. The now-free team goes on waivers as well (possibly). Unclaimed teams go into the pool as free agents.
Details to be sorted out:
time of waiver claim period
how to keep somebody on the bottom from continually upgrading without worrying about position
Now if you do pick up a waiver team, do you get to pick who you drop or is it a team of equal avg round pickup? (i.e. your alliance: 148, 111, 1986 but 1114 joins regional, can you drop the 3rd pick or do you have to drop 148?)
Vikesrock
23-07-2010, 15:57
Now if you do pick up a waiver team, do you get to pick who you drop or is it a team of equal avg round pickup? (i.e. your alliance: 148, 111, 1986 but 1114 joins regional, can you drop the 3rd pick or do you have to drop 148?)
My opinion would be you can drop whoever you want. It could get quite messy determining what round is equivalent when mid-level teams are handled, just because 1816 is a solid round 1 at Northstar doesn't mean they are at Wisconsin as an example.
With regards to people near the bottom of the priority list upgrading with a bunch of midlevel teams, I think this is just another strategic aspect of the competition. You have to evaluate where you are in the order and decide on whether or not the upgrade is worth risking something better coming up later on.
Dargel1625
27-07-2010, 22:04
Count me in!
Definitely going to make and send in lists this year for a larger percentage of the regionals so I don't get hammered weeks 4 and 5 due to not having time to attend all of the actual drafts.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
You know what, I'll take a shot at this. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing (based on talking with other people and looking at the FF IRI thread), so let's get 'er done!*
*Note: In no way do I mean to offend those of the other gender, hence the lack of the missing letter.
Why not. As a head scout, I have the data, and this IS what I enjoy...
What is the time between when the list for regionals/districts are announced and when we pick?
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
ATannahill
29-07-2010, 08:54
We usually start drafting on the first of December. A schedule will be announced when the event dates are made public.
Chris is me
29-07-2010, 13:36
Why not. As a head scout, I have the data, and this IS what I enjoy...
A head scout with data on the future is a head scout worth getting to know. :P
By tradition, the first of December is the first day of drafting. Ed has indicated that that might be moved up to right around Thanksgiving weekend.
As a reminder, you do not have to show up to every draft, but missing 5 drafts in a row means you get a warning PM; missing the next draft means that you are out of the league and your teams become available (via the waiver process, if we are indeed still planning on doing that).
Lists are accepted for all drafts; send them to whoever is running the draft and let Ed or myself know that you've sent them in (or send us a copy). This is so we don't say, "Hey, so-and-so hasn't shown up in 5 drafts" when you've really sent lists in to Vikesrock for two drafts that he's running in the middle.
I've started a separate thread to discuss some of the details of the waiver process before the season starts; it's at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=970344#post970344
Chris is me
29-07-2010, 15:14
It would be cool, but by no means required, if someone could link me and others to a list of teams for each event. It's really hard to find a list of just team numbers instead of a list with numbers, full names, cities, etc.
ATannahill
29-07-2010, 15:22
Chris, you should check out frclinks.com made by WFFA Pat Fairbank. for example, teams at wisconsin in 2009 would be found by going to frclinks.com/e/wi/2009
Vikesrock
29-07-2010, 15:29
It would be cool, but by no means required, if someone could link me and others to a list of teams for each event. It's really hard to find a list of just team numbers instead of a list with numbers, full names, cities, etc.
Easiest way I've come up with is to copy/paste the FIRST team list into Notepad. Then load the txt file into Excel. This will put the team numbers all in a single column. From there you can either work with them in Excel or copy/paste or export them back to a txt file.
Chris is me
29-07-2010, 16:24
Thanks for the tips guys.
Here's a probably silly change: So you know how the first round is 6 times as important as the second and third in nearly every draft? Why don't we do "1-x x-1 x-1" picking instead of "1-x x-1 1-x" picking to compensate?
It's actually pretty easy to put together a good alliance from the middle/bottom of the order, if you know what you're doing. I ended up #7 (out of 22) last year pre-championships despite having mid-bottom picks most rounds, #6 if you include the Championships (where I picked #7 in all 4 drafts).
This despite using standard serpentine...
By the third round, most people are either out of teams on their list, or don't care between two teams, so why not go 1-x in round 3?
Jamie Kalb
31-07-2010, 16:11
Last year was fun! I'll play again this time. Thanks in advance to Ed and all the others who run drafts, score events, etc.!
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
18. Jamie Kalb
A couple of updates from the waiver discussion:
Waiver periods will be no shorter than 48 hours from when a team is posted here as attending, but no longer than midnight of the following Sunday (if a Sunday midnight falls before the 48 hours, the team will carry over to the following Sunday). This gives plenty of time to see that 1114 is now going to DC or 46 has finally decided to go to the Magnolia Regional and get a claim in.
During the time between a draft ending and midnight that night, no team will be sent to waivers, unless their owner was kicked out of the league (or dropped voluntarily).
PMs or open posts will be acceptable as waiver claims; the team that would be dropped should be included (so that whoever is processing waiver claims doesn't have to track you down). If the team is missing, just note that when you make a claim. (Missing teams also move you up the priority list.)
ProgramLuke
18-08-2010, 22:17
I've never played before but i'll give it a shot!
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
18. Jamie Kalb
20. ProgramLuke
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
18. Jamie Kalb
19. ProgramLuke
Alex Cormier
19-08-2010, 10:07
BRING IT ON!
BRING IT ON!
What's that you say?
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
18. Jamie Kalb
19. ProgramLuke
20. Alex Cormier
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Zach O
18. Jamie Kalb
19. ProgramLuke
20. Alex Cormier
21. Basel A
Zach O has withdrawn from the league.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Jamie Kalb
18. ProgramLuke
19. Alex Cormier
20. Basel A
Chris is me
12-09-2010, 19:32
Rule Proposal number 902345: What if we had it so if you miss your first pick, you default to random picks unless you post otherwise? I feel that would really speed things up and I've rarely (once) seen anyone miss their first pick and then come back and finish the draft.
ATannahill
12-09-2010, 21:37
Rule Proposal number 902345: What if we had it so if you miss your first pick, you default to random picks unless you post otherwise? I feel that would really speed things up and I've rarely (once) seen anyone miss their first pick and then come back and finish the draft.
Second. Much easier on the draft runner.
I like it.
If you think you're going to miss picks, say so to the draft runner. It makes our lives easier--and it's even better if you give a list.
Bethany Mc.
14-09-2010, 01:11
I have decided that I enjoyed Fantasy FIRST and I will play again this year, I look forward to another great year!
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Jamie Kalb
18. ProgramLuke
19. Alex Cormier
20. Basel A
21. Bethany Mc.!
I have decided that I enjoyed Fantasy FIRST and I will play again this year, I look forward to another great year!
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Jamie Kalb
18. ProgramLuke
19. Alex Cormier
20. Basel A
21. Bethany Mc.!
Aw how cute.
His and her fantasy dominance.
James1902
14-09-2010, 08:27
I'm in, just saw Bethanys award from last season and i've decided I should have one :D
I'm in, just saw Bethanys award from last season and i've decided I should have one :D
I wanna see Bethany's award.:(
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. Jamie Kalb
18. ProgramLuke
19. Alex Cormier
20. Basel A
21. Bethany Mc.
22. James1902
The event list is out now. 57 events (counting Michigan State Championship). http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2010/09/2011-frc-event-schedule-is-here.html
November 26
Granite State
November 27
FLR
Traverse City
November 28
New Jersey
Kettering University
November 29
Alamo
November 30
San Diego
December 1
Greater Kansas City
December 2
WPI
December 3
Lake Superior
December 4
Florida
Ann Arbor
December 5
Wisconsin
Detroit
December 6
Pittsburgh
December 7
New York City
December 8
Israel
December 9
Arizona
December 10
Sacramento
December 11
Chesapeake
West Michigan
December 12
Boilermaker
Troy
December 13
Peachtree
December 14
Bayou
December 15
St. Louis
December 16
Oklahoma
December 17
Lone Star
December 18
Olympic
Cascade
December 19
Washington
Midwest
December 20
Waterloo
December 21
Los Angeles
December 22
Palmetto
December 23
Hawaii
December 24
Dallas
December 26
Long Island
Oregon
December 27
Connecticut
December 28
Smoky Mountain
December 29
North Carolina
December 30
Buckeye
January 1
Greater Toronto East
Greater Toronto West
January 2
10000 Lakes
North Star
January 3
Philadelphia
January 4
Utah
January 5
Virginia
January 6
Boston
January 7
Colorado
The Michigan State Championship draft will take place the Wednesday before the actual event. The eighth Michigan event will be scheduled if it is initiated.
Jamie Kalb
26-09-2010, 01:49
I'm going to withdraw with the league :(. My class schedule would cause me to miss a lot of drafts, and I'm worried about making a ton of lists and staying caught up with my homework. I could probably still make lists, but without the time to put any real research and effort into them, they wouldn't really be worth the draft runners' time.
The rest of you, have fun! :)
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. ProgramLuke
18. Alex Cormier
19. Basel A
20. Bethany Mc.
21. James1902
Looks like we need to account for Dallas 2, and Dallas moving to Week 6.
ATannahill
28-09-2010, 20:48
IMHO I think we should move LI to 12-24, Colarodo to 1-6 and put both of Dallas' events on the 7th.
davidthefat
29-09-2010, 00:36
Wouldn't this work if there was a website that takes care of all the stuff from the serverside? Just like the sports fantasy. Im not in BTW, just saying a suggestion
There is one--another page on CD. It's still under construction, and has been for a couple years now. I don't think it's exactly high priority...
ATannahill
09-10-2010, 14:46
Week 1
November 26
Granite State
November 27
FLR
Traverse City
November 28
New Jersey
Kettering University
November 29
Alamo
Week 2
November 30
San Diego
December 1
Greater Kansas City
December 2
WPI
December 3
Lake Superior
December 4
Florida
December 5
Wisconsin
December 6
Pittsburgh
December 7
New York City
Week 2.5
December 8
Israel
Week 3
December 9
Arizona
December 10
Sacramento
December 11
Chesapeake
December 12
Boilermaker
December 13
Peachtree
December 14
Bayou
December 15
St. Louis
December 16
Oklahoma
Detroit
December 17
Lone Star
West Michigan
December 18
Olympic
Cascade
Week 4
December 19
Washington
Midwest
December 20
Waterloo
December 21
Los Angeles
December 22
Palmetto
Ann Arbor
December 23
Hawaii
Niles
December 24
Long Island
December 26
Oregon
Week 5
December 27
Silicon Valley
Connecticut
December 28
Las Vegas
Smoky Mountain
December 29
Greater Toronto East
Greater Toronto West
December 30
10000 Lakes
North Star
January 2
Livonia
Troy
Week 6
January 3
North Carolina
Philadelphia
January 4
Buckeye
Utah
January 5
Virginia
January 6
Boston
Colorado
January 7
Dallas
Dallas 2?
The Michigan State Championship draft will take place the Wednesday before the actual event. The eighth Michigan event will be scheduled if it is initiated.
I put in the changes I suggested and sorted out a few events so that events on the same week were together. Right now there is only one Dallas Regional on usfirst.org. I also added the 8th district, Silicon Valley and Las Vegas.
I chose not to put anything on 12-31 or 1-1 so as to avoid problems.
I am not sure if people like the events seperated by weeks or if they were fine with how the schedule was. I would prefer us to use this.
Tim Delles
24-10-2010, 20:47
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. ProgramLuke
18. Alex Cormier
19. Basel A
20. Bethany Mc.
21. James1902
Hrmm wouldn't mind getting back into this.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. ProgramLuke
18. Alex Cormier
19. Basel A
20. Bethany Mc.
21. James1902
22. Tim Delles
pandamonium
27-10-2010, 08:12
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13. RMiller
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. ProgramLuke
18. Alex Cormier
19. Basel A
20. Bethany Mc.
21. James1902
22. Tim Delles
23. Pandamonium
For the record, there is now less than one month left before drafts begin.
Ed, which schedule will we be doing? (Not like it matters for GSR...)
For the record, there is now less than one month left before drafts begin.
Ed, which schedule will we be doing? (Not like it matters for GSR...)
Alex's version works fine for me.
I am going to have to pull my name out of the hat for this year. Hope it is a good one for all.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. R.C.
12. Karibou
13.
14. fireyoshi
15. Dargel1625
16. kenavt
17. ProgramLuke
18. Alex Cormier
19. Basel A
20. Bethany Mc.
21. James1902
22. Tim Delles
23. Pandamonium
One week warning has been sounded!
BAE regional draft is now on the horizon!
Ed,
I too will remove my name from the hat. Too much to do with so little time.
-RC
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. Karibou
12. fireyoshi
13. Dargel1625
14. kenavt
15. ProgramLuke
16. Alex Cormier
17. Basel A
18. Bethany Mc.
19. James1902
20. Tim Delles
21. Pandamonium
ProgramLuke
20-11-2010, 21:44
I too will have to pull out do to an unexpected amount of courseload.
I hope everyone else has a blast!
Working on my picks (halfway through December!)..
Do I just copy+paste the contents of my one huge .txt file into a pm and send it off?
Working on my picks (halfway through December!)..
Do I just copy+paste the contents of my one huge .txt file into a pm and send it off?
However you want to do it is fine, whether that's individual lists or a group of lists. Just needs to get to whoever's running the draft in question, and probably whoever else is running drafts. Typically, that's Ed, myself, Kevin, or Alex; if at least two of us have a given draft, odds are we can make sure the list makes it in.
I'm working on my lists; 4 down, several to go, and plenty of time after Wednesday, and maybe before. Now to see if the secret sauce works...:D
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 08:09
Also be sure to keep copies of your lists and know why you put team x above team y.
We would prefer you to not have periods, commas or numbers (such as 1. team x, 2. team y, etc.) in the list you send in. Team numbers should be used instead of nicknames.
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 11:43
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. Akash Rastogi
7. dodar
8. hill
9. Clinton Bolinger
10. EricH
11. Karibou
12. fireyoshi
13. Dargel1625
14. kenavt
15. Alex Cormier
16. Basel A
17. Bethany Mc.
18. James1902
19. Tim Delles
20. Pandamonium
Akash Rastogi
21-11-2010, 13:21
withdrawing from the draft
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 13:40
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. dodar
7. hill
8. Clinton Bolinger
9. EricH
10. Karibou
11. fireyoshi
12. Dargel1625
13. kenavt
14. Alex Cormier
15. Basel A
16. Bethany Mc.
17. James1902
18. Tim Delles
19. Pandamonium
Tim Delles
21-11-2010, 14:03
Also be sure to keep copies of your lists and know why you put team x above team y.
We would prefer you to not have periods, commas or numbers (such as 1. team x, 2. team y, etc.) in the list you send in. Team numbers should be used instead of nicknames.
Will you guys take xml files or do you want it in txt format... either is fine since I can just copy them out.
Thanks
I am confused. For which events do we send our picklists to who?
File type: If we can read it, it's good. I think Notepad can read .xml, so that should be OK.
Which list to who for which event: You send a given event's list to whoever is running it. For example, Ed would get Granite State (unless someone else runs it), but for the next day, Ed could run one of two drafts, and I'd probably be on the other.
Best way to tell who's running a draft: Whoever posts the random list (day of) is the one running that draft, unless something happens.
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 18:24
If you are going to be out for multiple days or weeks you can send your lists to the four of us, just be sure we understand it is more than one event.
Josh Fox
21-11-2010, 19:29
Is there still the option of live drafting your teams?
I guess I'm a bit confused as to how this system is working. I would like to be involved, but I'll also understand if I'm too late to the party.
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 19:32
To put all the rule changes in one place.
1. Random teams will be handed out like usual.
2. Waivers will be operated as explained at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=971565&postcount=59.
3. If you miss you first round pick, you will automatically get randoms afterwards.
4. Free hugs to anyone that is present at, sends in a list or asks to be put on the random list before the start of all draft.
I am going to send a pm to everyone entered in the league that has not posted in here in the last 24 hours to remind them to participate or drop.
ATannahill
21-11-2010, 19:34
Is there still the option of live drafting your teams?
I guess I'm a bit confused as to how this system is working. I would like to be involved, but I'll also understand if I'm too late to the party.
1. Koko Ed
2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
5. Chris is me
6. dodar
7. hill
8. Clinton Bolinger
9. EricH
10. Karibou
11. fireyoshi
12. Dargel1625
13. kenavt
14. Alex Cormier
15. Basel A
16. Bethany Mc.
17. James1902
18. Tim Delles
19. Pandamonium
20. Josh Fox
As I just explained, you can post your picks in the thread, send in a list or specify you wan random teams.
Josh Fox
21-11-2010, 19:36
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. :)
Edit: And I am in by the way, just making that clear even though you already added my name.
Chris is me
21-11-2010, 20:22
yup im still here lalala
Can someone post who's running each draft? No idea who to send the lists to.
Is any help needed with running drafts?
Barry Bonzack
21-11-2010, 22:32
I'm still here, things are much much busier than usual. This may be a half hearted attempt this year.
fireyoshi
21-11-2010, 22:48
A. Is there a schedule of drafts anywhere?
B. Who do I send my lists to?
Who's running which draft:
Assume that Ed is running one draft per day. Up until 12/17, I'll probably be the other draft runner; after then, it'll be Kevin or Alex or maybe myself, depending on day.
Short answer: Assume Ed is doing one per day; the second one will be as above. Exactly which draft is pot luck; hedge your bets by sending both lists to both runners for that day or by waiting for someone to post the random list, then sending to that person.
Draft schedule is located at: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=976666&postcount=84
Draft runners: Koko Ed, Vikesrock, rtfgnow, and myself. Whoever runs a draft is who you send that draft's lists to.
Who's running which draft:
Assume that Ed is running one draft per day. Up until 12/17, I'll probably be the other draft runner; after then, it'll be Kevin or Alex or maybe myself, depending on day.
Short answer: Assume Ed is doing one per day; the second one will be as above. Exactly which draft is pot luck; hedge your bets by sending both lists to both runners for that day or by waiting for someone to post the random list, then sending to that person.
Draft schedule is located at: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=976666&postcount=84
Draft runners: Koko Ed, Vikesrock, rtfgnow, and myself. Whoever runs a draft is who you send that draft's lists to.
I will not be running the Greater Kansas City draft on December 1st. My team has a meeting that night.
I won't be able to run it either--I'll be in a meeting at start time.
Vikesrock
22-11-2010, 09:26
I will not be running the Greater Kansas City draft on December 1st. My team has a meeting that night.
As of right now I'm available that night and can run that draft.
pandamonium
22-11-2010, 10:35
I am still in!
ATannahill
24-11-2010, 16:39
Coopertition Bonus, 2 points ( Win)
Tie, 1 point
No bonus, 0 points (Loss)
Win, 30 points
Finalist, 20 points
Semifinalist, 10 points
Quarterfinalist, 4 points
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points
WFFA, 8 points
RCA, 42 points
EI, 36 points
RAS, 20 points
Rookie Inspiration, 15 points
Coopertition Award, 10 points
Highest Rookie Seed, 5 points
High score, 5 points
Judges Award, 5 points
Robot-based award (Delphi, Xerox, GM, Rockwell, Motorola), 15 points
Dean’s List, 4 points
Any award not previously mentioned, 2 points
Looks like the awards do not change for this year. Co-op bonus might go back to win(2)-loss(-2)-tie(1), but that decision will have to wait until after kick-off.
LAST CALL! If you're going to be in, and we don't know about you yet, better let us know by the end of tomorrow. If you were in, but are now not in, it's a good idea to say so before drafting begins on Friday.
Bethany Mc.
24-11-2010, 22:40
I am still looking forward to a good season. I am a bit busy this time of year with being both FTC and FLL Mentor, but I will find time for FF.
Chris is me
25-11-2010, 13:22
Would it be bad to cross out anyone who hasn't logged on in the past x months?
Would it be bad to cross out anyone who hasn't logged on in the past x months?
We've gotten responses from just about everyone. Aside from that, I think the standard 5 drafts, warning PM, boot should be adequate.
ATannahill
25-11-2010, 14:51
Also, everyone has logged in within the last week.
Closing registration and starting up the BAE thread.
Josh Fox
25-11-2010, 21:24
How do I go about sending in my pick list?
I have a .txt of it, do I send that somehow? Or do I just copy and paste that into a pm?
ATannahill
25-11-2010, 21:53
Send it by pm. I have no problem with going to a link if you can post your list somewhere, but I don't want to download a file from an email or a website.
Josh Fox
25-11-2010, 22:06
Ok, and I send my list to the person running that particular draft?
Yep. FYI, I've volunteered to do the District events this weekend. Ed does most of the drafts.
Josh Fox
25-11-2010, 22:56
Thanks for all the help.
:)
Alex Cormier
26-11-2010, 09:17
whats the schedule again?
Josh Fox
26-11-2010, 09:48
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=976666&postcount=84
501
3074
133
836
134
1721
58
69
319
2621
3451
241
1277
811
172
1307
151
1512
3585
885
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The first draft has come and gone and about half the people in the league have not even showed up.
Bad start guys.
The first draft has come and gone and about half the people in the league have not even showed up.
Bad start guys.
I saw that too. Are you guys going to let me walk off with my #1, #4, and #6 picks every time?
Tomorrow's drafts: Finger Lakes (Ed) and Traverse City (me). Traverse tiers should go up shortly.
ATannahill
26-11-2010, 20:39
I am glad to se that most of the active drafters sent in lists. In regards to inactives, I hope we can flush them out quick so that we don't have to deal with 120 teams freeing up in January.
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26-11-2010, 23:04
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My bad for not getting my list in today. No excuse. what time tomorrow is this going down?
My bad for not getting my list in today. No excuse. what time tomorrow is this going down?
Starts at 7 EST. Also, FLR starts at the same time. Exact draft times can be seen in the tier threads; you're first up in Tier 1 and can make your first pick at any time up till your window closes.
Sorry guys, I feel pretty dumb for having made the lists already, but forgetting to send them in. Anyway, I should be here for good now.
Kellen Hill
26-11-2010, 23:33
I'm sorry to say this, but go ahead and drop me from the league. I should have done this sooner as I'm going to be too busy for drafts over the next few weeks with papers and finals and things.
It's been a fun run over the past few years. Hopefully I will be able to rejoin at some point in the future. Good luck to all of those participating this year and thanks for all the hard work put in by Ed, Eric, and the others that make these things happen.
Sorry once again
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ATannahill
27-11-2010, 20:23
We are getting better, only slighty more than a quarter of participants missed tonight. Four players will be getting messages if they don't show up tomorrow.
We are getting better, only slighty more than a quarter of participants missed tonight. Four players will be getting messages if they don't show up tomorrow.
Have the offending parties even been online the past few days?
Unofficially, 5-drafts-and-warning is played as 5-days-and-warning.
But yes, there are 4 players who have not participated in drafts this year at all to my knowledge. If those 4 see this message, I would suggest getting busy pretty quick either dropping out or picking teams!
Tomorrow: Kettering (me) and New Jersey (Ed).
Edit: 2 of the 4 have made posts in this thread since reminder PMs went out. I'd have to check on the rest.
ATannahill
27-11-2010, 20:38
Of the other two, one was on today, the only on the 24th.
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ATannahill
27-11-2010, 22:47
Alex Cormier has dropped from the league.
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The following league members have missed five drafts in a row and will recieve warning PMs. If they miss tomorrow night's draft they will be booted from the league:
Pandamonium
kenavt
Clinton Bolinger
Pandamonium and Clinton Bolinger have withdrawn from the league.
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I will not be running the Greater Kansas City draft on December 1st. My team has a meeting that night.
I won't be able to run it either--I'll be in a meeting at start time.
As of right now I'm available that night and can run that draft.
Just a heads-up on the draft schedule--and who to send lists to. If I've got your list, I'll forward it on over.
ATannahill
30-11-2010, 21:52
I believe it is time for Dargel1625 to get a pm.
I believe it is time for Dargel1625 to get a pm.
Yep; if he doesn't get it tonight, he certainly needs to tomorrow. I know he was on early this morning...
Vikesrock
30-11-2010, 22:05
I Just got finished rebuilding a PC to use while I get my laptop repaired so I am on for tomorrow nights draft.
I currently have lists from:
Basel A
Barry
EricH
Karibou
Vikesrock
30-11-2010, 23:40
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Vikesrock
01-12-2010, 09:04
Windows freaked out some time last night on my new machine and now I can't login. I think I know how to fix the problem, and can hopefully do so after work.
If I can't get it fixed quickly or at all I will be unable to run the draft tonight.
ATannahill
01-12-2010, 10:45
If you need help, send me the lists and I will take it over.
Vikesrock
01-12-2010, 16:28
If you need help, send me the lists and I will take it over.
Thanks for the offer!
I got off work early and the fix was as simple as I was hoping once I got an XP CD so I am all set to run the draft for tonight.
ATannahill
01-12-2010, 21:07
If Dargel1625 got a pm yesterday he is now out and his teams are on waiver. Otherwise he needs to get a pm.
Please don't spam my inbox with waiver requests until Ed confirms if he is kicked or just getting a pm tonight.
I did not send him a PM yesterday.
I did not send him a PM yesterday.
Send him a PM today.
Did Tim Delles participate tonight?
Vikesrock
01-12-2010, 21:17
Nope, no picks or list from Tim tonight
Nope, no picks or list from Tim tonight
That's 3 in a row for him.
PM sent to Dargel.
Nobody else has more than one miss.
December 2
WPI
December 3
Lake Superior
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Florida
December 5
Wisconsin
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Pittsburgh
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Oregon
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Utah
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Boston
Colorado
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Dallas
Figured it'd be best to keep the schedule near the end of the thread for quick reference.
Vikesrock
01-12-2010, 21:52
As a warning for those working on lists for Lake Superior, 2175 is currently registered but has not yet raised the funds for the event. At this point I would say it is very likely they will drop out.
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Dargel1625 has missed five drafts in a row. Did not respond to his PM and did not participate in tonight's draft thus he is booted from the league.
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While I enjoy the idea of Fantasy FIRST, I don't think I can do the rigor of the whole season. Thanks for letting me in, but I am done.
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Was fireoshi present for the GKC draft?
He hasn't been on for the last three days.
ATannahill
04-12-2010, 20:59
According to my notes he made GKC. My notes also show he made New Jersey, Alamo, San Diego and WPI.
According to my notes he made GKC. My notes also show he made New Jersey, Alamo, San Diego and WPI.
ok.
So he's only missed three in a row.
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James1902 (who hasn't been on CD since December 2nd) and fireoshi (who was on earlier) have missed 4 drafts in a row. If they miss tomorrow night's draft they will get a PM.
Actually I see fireyoshi was on CD during the whole draft and now I am very unhappy with him.
Missing a draft is one thing. Ignoring a draft is a one way ticket to getting on my bad side.
ATannahill
05-12-2010, 20:56
I think they only missed three drafts in a row. Lake Superior, Florida and Wisconsin.
I think they only missed three drafts in a row. Lake Superior, Florida and Wisconsin.
Yeah, I had them at 3 after tonight, too.
Yeah, I had them at 3 after tonight, too.
Alright, I'll wait two more drafts.
James will get a PM if he doesn't show tomorrow.
Barry Bonzack
05-12-2010, 23:05
I will be again be creating the 2011 Elgin Clock Award for the winner of this year. Last year I had the award plaque professionally done and then I added a working clock.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/403/40372cd91ae407d92d00845512080508_m.jpg
I just purchased this year's clock to create the 2011 trophy, here is what I would like to request from the players:
Fantasy FIRST is a free game for all, and should remain that way. It is run by volunteers, and there is absolutely no gambling allowed. I would, however, like to see if others would be up for donating $1 so I can continue to make an awesome trophy for the winner.
I will pay the $1 for anyone that volunteers to run at least three drafts or helps moderate scores or the waivers thread. So far EricH, Kokoed, and rtfgnow have their dollars included. Vikesrock usually helps with scoring, so I have a feeling I'll be putting his dollar in too.
For those that donate the dollar, I promise if you win I'll make an awesome trophy no matter what. For those that do not donate the dollar, the trophy will be as awesome as the amount of money others have given.
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ATannahill
06-12-2010, 19:59
I think that was the first time everyone showed their face.
I think that was the first time everyone showed their face.
Yup.
For those that donate the dollar, I promise if you win I'll make an awesome trophy no matter what. For those that do not donate the dollar, the trophy will be as awesome as the amount of money others have given.
How do we get the dollars to you? Trophies are pretty.
ATannahill
06-12-2010, 21:30
Full disclosure, I still planning on dropping you a Washington if I see you over in Orlando.
Barry Bonzack
06-12-2010, 21:52
How do we get the dollars to you? Trophies are pretty.
I have a paypal account. Anyone know how to send a buck to it?
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Putting it out there early:
Due to being occupied with traveling at the time of the draft I will not be available to run the Hawaiian regional draft on the 23rd nor the Oregon regional draft on the 26th so I will need someone else to run those drafts on those days.
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ATannahill
09-12-2010, 21:01
fireyoshi has missed six of the last seven drafts. If he does not attend on either of the next two nights he will get a pm. I also suggest that he not (nor anyone else) play by participating in a bare minimum of drafts. Lists can be sent in days or weeks in advanced if necessary.
Chris is me
09-12-2010, 21:10
Sorry I missed Arizona tonight, I'll catch up on my list buffer tonight.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=984696&postcount=183
Guess we've got another draft to throw in there.
Along with a potential redraft of the first two MI events.
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ATannahill
10-12-2010, 19:09
When is a good time to rerun the Kettering and Traverse drafts? Also when should we run the draft for the new district? I am thinking no earlier then Wednesday.
When is a good time to rerun the Kettering and Traverse drafts? Also when should we run the draft for the new district? I am thinking no earlier then Wednesday.
I was thinking Monday/Tuesday timeframe for the reruns, and the new draft on an open slot later in the season--I'd lean towards the 20th or 21st.
ATannahill
11-12-2010, 08:13
Okay. Traverse on Monday, Kettering on Tuesday. How about Waterford on the 20th with Waterloo.
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I'm re-listing all my remaining lists, so Eric/Ed/whoever-may-have-ended-up-with-my-lists, throw them out. Would've just been a pm, but making sure if someone else got a list for another draft they were running, or something.. I dunno, just in case.
I'm re-listing all my remaining lists, so Eric/Ed/whoever-may-have-ended-up-with-my-lists, throw them out. Would've just been a pm, but making sure if someone else got a list for another draft they were running, or something.. I dunno, just in case.
I'm keeping your old list til you send me the new one just to play it safe.
Okay. Traverse on Monday, Kettering on Tuesday. How about Waterford on the 20th with Waterloo.
I'll do Traverse and Kettering.
I'm keeping your old list til you send me the new one just to play it safe.
The main issue with that was I'd have picked 2377 in Chesapeake with the new list..
The main issue with that was I'd have picked 2377 in Chesapeake with the new list..
*sigh* fine.
I'll cancel the pick then.
Please submit your list as soon as possible.
*sigh* fine.
I'll cancel the pick then.
Please submit your list as soon as possible.
Just finished..
Sorry, maybe should have made the pick manually then did the rest of the lists. My bad.
ATannahill
11-12-2010, 20:15
fireyoshi failed to make a pick tonight and needs a pm. If he does not participate tomorrow, he will be booted.
fireyoshi failed to make a pick tonight and needs a pm. If he does not participate tomorrow, he will be booted.
He has one more pick to make but I seriously doubt he'll show.
Looks like he hasn't been online since the 9th.
He has one more pick to make but I seriously doubt he'll show.
Looks like he hasn't been online since the 9th.
Ok now he has missed his fifth draft in a row.
I'll send him a PM laying it out for him and then the rest is up to him.
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fireyoshi has been booted from the league.
You may commence with stripping the carcass.
Traverse City rerun random list. Might be a good idea to start getting your lists in.
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ATannahill
13-12-2010, 20:46
James1902 has missed five drafts over the last four nights.
James1902 has missed five drafts over the last four nights.
In other words, James, if you read this, WE ARE EYING YOUR TEAMS. Some of them look very good. I know that you were on before the drafts today.
James1902 has missed five drafts over the last four nights.
Sounds like it's time for another PM.
Random list for the rerun of Kettering District.
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I will be unable to run an event tomorrow night. Something about a late final exam.
I should be able to run one on Friday before not readily knowing when I'll be available or not.
ATannahill
15-12-2010, 13:30
I'm busy tomorrow but I can take Friday.
I'm busy tomorrow but I can take Friday.
Guess my last sentence wasn't clear--I can run one on Friday, but after then I don't have a clue as to schedule (other than I'll be traveling on Saturday), so I'll have to chime in the day before a draft as to whether I'll be available.
573, whom I picked, just dropped Kettering to switch into Waterford.. How's this work?
Look at your friendly neighborhood free-agent list and waiver wire. Seeing as Kettering doesn't currently have a waiver team, pick a team from the pool (free-agent list) to replace them and note that 573 dropped in the thread.
Tim Delles, you need to do the same thing.
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Vikesrock
15-12-2010, 20:58
I should be around to run Detroit tomorrow night.
There is an outside chance I will have to work late so the more lists I get the better!
EDIT: We all fit in 1 tier for full districts now with a bit of a buffer for drops. Do we want to run 1 tier or 2? My personal preference would be 2, but either way is about the same to me from a draft running standpoint.
Vikesrock
15-12-2010, 23:35
EDIT: We all fit in 1 tier for full districts now with a bit of a buffer for drops. Do we want to run 1 tier or 2? My personal preference would be 2, but either way is about the same to me from a draft running standpoint.
I went ahead and set up 2 tiers, if there are any objections I can certainly do 1 instead.
Detroit random list:
123
1023
2048
519
2673
2960
308
51
94
1025
3096
1502
3069
2591
503
245
440
815
3002
280
1
3098
3547
3619
3115
3632
2834
3398
3302
2224
201
3175
469
1998
818
515
1250
1701
217
903
I'm about to turn off the computer for the next 18 hours or so, and the thread for Oklahoma isn't posted (so I don't know who's running it), so I'd just like to say that I would like randoms for that event.
Dargel1625
16-12-2010, 03:23
My apologies for not making drafts and having to be booted. My work schedule was switched making me unable to make drafts on most days and with upcoming finals I just didn't have time on nonworking days. I meant to formally drop out of the league but it completely slipped my mind. My apologies again and I wish everyone luck this season!
-David
1561
2373
2165
1742
2391
1750
704
2004
2341
3498
2777
3465
3457
2795
932
3660
476
3507
3593
31
2389
2396
3463
2398
2723
2765
1209
1108
3169
2352
2372
2424
3247
2382
2388
3163
2773
3179
3160
2333
2461
2343
2829
2354
2359
2395
2435
3144
3152
2369
December 16
Oklahoma
Detroit
December 17
Lone Star
West Michigan
December 18
Olympic
Cascade
Week 4
December 19
Washington
Midwest
December 20
Waterloo
Waterford District (given enough registered teams)
December 21
Los Angeles
December 22
Palmetto
Ann Arbor
December 23
Hawaii
Niles
December 24
Long Island
December 26
Oregon
Week 5
December 27
Silicon Valley
Connecticut
December 28
Las Vegas
Smoky Mountain
December 29
Greater Toronto East
Greater Toronto West
December 30
10000 Lakes
North Star
January 2
Livonia
Troy
Week 6
January 3
North Carolina
Philadelphia
January 4
Buckeye
Utah
January 5
Virginia
January 6
Boston
Colorado
January 7
Dallas
Just a schedule reminder.
1718
27
1896
74
862
3546
2474
3570
107
85
2405
518
3640
1189
2767
3658
67
288
216
548
2075
1918
3234
141
3458
3357
2000
1677
244
2771
858
2054
904
2153
3572
857
3452
3603
226
2882
1865
2072
3834
3833
2587
3804
1484
1801
3823
3363
3847
2881
57
1480
434
1898
3012
2613
3320
2936
3353
3731
3713
3016
1477
2969
3728
3762
624
441
2833
3080
3727
3103
1513
2737
3735
3758
3726
3741
3335
1255
3696
2276
2979
1817
2582
2585
2956
3526
I will probably be unable to run drafts on a regular basis from here on out, but will still track scoring and will try to be available to act as a backup. Whoever is running the second draft tomorrow will probably want to make sure they get my list from Ed; I'll be offline for quite a while and don't know if I'll be on before the draft.
I think Tim Delles has missed the last 3 drafts.
If he misses tonight's drafts he's getting a PM.
He showed up for the Kettering redraft. Think that night was the last time he showed up, though--that's what I have noted.
He showed up for the Kettering redraft. Think that night was the last time he showed up, though--that's what I have noted.
ok.
Wasn't sure.
ATannahill
18-12-2010, 08:45
I'll take Olympic tonight.
360
2046
1318
3805
3575
3221
3831
2925
2980
3218
3393
2605
3801
3049
948
1778
1294
3219
3574
2522
2923
3586
2927
3070
2907
3286
2471
2922
2910
2148
3786
1425
3220
1595
3587
488
2990
1899
3268
2906
2976
3223
2930
2660
2926
3238
2557
949
ATannahill
18-12-2010, 11:18
3812
2942
1258
3855
2929
3813
3588
3576
3390
3662
3781
2905
3806
2903
1332
2147
3789
3216
3826
3126
2374
115
2850
2811
3213
2928
2122
3663
2517
3693
1510
2944
2149
1983
3825
2865
2412
2555
649
3787
3860
192
492
3684
3876
753
473
3237
3681
1359
Chris is me
18-12-2010, 18:03
I can help draft on / after Sunday if need be.
Vikesrock
18-12-2010, 21:43
I'll take the Washington D.C. draft tomorrow night
Random list:
1915
2121
2962
1511
945
2964
623
1279
2911
2914
2016
1849
2961
2963
346
620
1418
449
2537
2377
1123
619
3455
768
2421
2900
1727
116
56
1446
3558
3279
63
612
3594
2819
3246
2590
383
614
190
2534
611
378
1872
578
1885
3283
2912
101
2022
2704
1987
2338
2194
1675
2725
1091
2826
1850
3110
3595
2803
3488
2115
896
2151
1367
1625
3494
2171
3695
3646
71
3416
118
45
1732
16
3779
2781
3177
1739
3067
2769
3352
2410
2041
3197
2709
3061
2462
3135
2432
111
2949
2136
135
1781
2358
I will probably be unable to run drafts on a regular basis from here on out, but will still track scoring and will try to be available to act as a backup. Whoever is running the second draft tomorrow will probably want to make sure they get my list from Ed; I'll be offline for quite a while and don't know if I'll be on before the draft.
I got your Seattle list but I don't think I got your list for today.
I got your Seattle list but I don't think I got your list for today.
I just sent it. Something about going to a movie with parents last night kept me off the computer until a few minutes ago.
On checking the Waterford team list, there are only 13 teams signed up, with the vast majority being rookies/unknowns. I'm going to suggest putting that draft off for a couple of days to allow more teams to be on the list.
On checking the Waterford team list, there are only 13 teams signed up, with the vast majority being rookies/unknowns. I'm going to suggest putting that draft off for a couple of days to allow more teams to be on the list.
I'd reccomend pushing that draft to the last day before kickoff soo to give the event ample enough time to fill up.
I'd reccomend pushing that draft to the last day before kickoff soo to give the event ample enough time to fill up.Trying to hold a spot for the second Dallas if it shows up. We could also try a 3-draft day, or shuffle the schedule a bit to accommodate.
Vikesrock
20-12-2010, 14:11
Trying to hold a spot for the second Dallas if it shows up. We could also try a 3-draft day, or shuffle the schedule a bit to accommodate.
I think we may want to shuffle the schedule. Waterford and Niles should probably both be run as late as possible to let them fill.
1114
1241
865
244
1310
216
2702
1219
3756
2625
2056
3683
3161
1075
3396
610
2609
1535
907
2200
2361
854
1334
1846
1305
288
781
843
1312
687
1702
207
3309
691
1197
1692
4
2085
3271
1047
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1148
1438
1717
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2339
294
848
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362
3408
2404
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3027
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995
2637
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1138
1515
2429
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330
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1759
3512
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2272
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1644
3473
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867
2659
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589
696
1366
2576
1836
Vikesrock
22-12-2010, 08:22
I'm not sure who's running Ann Arbor tonight, and I'll be traveling today so Ed, Eric and Alex all have a copy of my list. If someone else is running it get a copy from one of them please.
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