View Full Version : 2011 Game Hint #1
Robert Cawthon
02-01-2011, 16:41
This is the hint that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people start guessing not knowing what it was, and they'll continue to guess forever just because...This is the hint that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend.
Jane
This might end if a second hint comes out! Or even a red herring! ;)
demosthenes2k8
02-01-2011, 16:50
while(1) { guess(); while(1) { repeat_previous_guesses(); if(dead_horse.posted()) break; } }
JaneYoung
02-01-2011, 17:19
while(1) { guess(); while(1) { repeat_previous_guesses(); if(dead_horse.posted()) break; } }
In musical terms - a round.
Robert, I think there have been some red herrings but I'm not really good with them or with hints so...
A 2nd hint would do nicely - maybe.
Jane
psyco_klown
02-01-2011, 17:26
well it looks like we expect the same thing when the manual come out. how many will RTFM.
SEV33RoboMan
02-01-2011, 17:31
Does anyone find it interesting that the Harmelen train disaster happened the same year the song loco-motion came out and it happend on exactly the same day as kick-off and it has to deal with trains
JaneYoung
02-01-2011, 17:31
well it looks like we expect the same thing when the manual come out. how many will RTFM.
This: ::rtm:: beats a dead horse - anytime.
New Idea
Highest ring is 10' up, the second ring is 7' up. The circle step is just a simple 2".
Just brainstorming on the idea of the column. So I thought something Colosseum-like.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/Columns.png
That would be a fun field. But I'd make the 'circle' 8" off the ground or so, and a slick surface.
I nominate thee for the GDC.... ;)
Team#2057-Vegas
02-01-2011, 17:59
Does anyone find it interesting that the Harmelen train disaster happened the same year the song loco-motion came out and it happend on exactly the same day as kick-off and it has to deal with trains
it has been brought up a few pages back.. but yet again.. its a interesting thought
Ethan Spitz
02-01-2011, 18:09
What if this year it takes place on a railroad track? that would be real interesting for drive trains
SEV33RoboMan
02-01-2011, 18:12
I wonder if Dean Kamen's 60th birthday this year has something to do with this years game
skebhners2
02-01-2011, 18:14
Now i've never been big on strange things happening for certain reasons but this seems just a little suspicious.
The harmelen train disaster:
"It was shortly before twenty past nine in the morning of Monday January 8, 1962 when a train bound for Amsterdam was snaking through the junction. Consisting of two electric multiple units it was moving at about 45 mph. The manouvre was protected from oncoming train by a red signal on the approach to the junction from the Utrecht direction.
A Utrecht to Rotterdam express train, headed by an electric locomotive, No. 1137 and travelling at about 60 mph was approaching the junction. Perhaps because of the foggy conditions, the driver missed a yellow light warning that the next signal was at red. It must have been at the last moment that he saw the danger signal. The driver applied the brakes but there was nothing more that he could do. Collision was inevitable."
Now i find it strange that the LED was also invented in 1962 and the little eva narcis song loco-motion came out in 1962
My thought we have a course that does indeed involve trains and i beleive mirrors will be a big part while using LED's. Maybe there is a part of the field that is hidden and we must use lights and mirrors to get there?
I had mentioned the LED's awhile back. Mainly, I see them being used to reverse goals.
knuckleduster
02-01-2011, 18:31
AAARrrgggghhhHH! We never learned from previous years!
Last years hint was completely useless!
Its all part of FIRST's plan to keep us up all night till the competition ends!!
We will all be tired and stuff durring the season if we spend too much time on this.
Or, we might be correct and it has something to do with trains.
whatevez
*falls asleep*
klmx30302
02-01-2011, 18:41
Theres no time for sleep. We've got games to think of and robots to design soon lol. 3am build nights are always the best.
Haven't experienced one of these yet, but theirs always this year. 47 days till "crunch time". 51 days till ship day.
kornjones
02-01-2011, 21:01
i'm not sure if anyone posted this yet and i am definitely not reading 50 pages of posts, but I think the woman in the picture looks a lot like Dr. Mae Jemison. A.K.A. the first African American Woman in space, or something to that effect.
i'm not sure if anyone posted this yet and i am definitely not reading 50 pages of posts, but I think the woman in the picture looks a lot like Dr. Mae Jemison. A.K.A. the first African American Woman in space, or something to that effect.
It would take reading a grand total of three pages for you to not look like a fool.
:)
demosthenes2k8
02-01-2011, 21:15
i'm not sure if anyone posted this yet and i am definitely not reading 50 pages of posts, but I think the woman in the picture looks a lot like Dr. Mae Jemison. A.K.A. the first African American Woman in space, or something to that effect.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285110/beatdeadhorse5.gif
Uhh...not quite. It's Little Eva's album art, but mirrored.
kornjones
02-01-2011, 21:20
whoa my bad, just a little late on finding the hint and got a bit overwhelmed by the 50 pages. and i do know just as well as the next guy that these hints are just superfluous information meant to throw us through loops.
Hello everyone,
You can't see this right now, but I am on my knees begging you, the readers and posters of Chief Delphi.
Please, skim the first five pages of this thread before you post. For that matter, read through any thread before you post in it. It helps keep us from running through the same ideas and dead ends twenty times.
Thank you all.
P.S.- Little Eva. She sang the Loco-motion. The picture is a reversed image of one of her album covers. Now anyone who starts reading here will know it.
normalmutant
02-01-2011, 21:35
My guess is that Loco-motion is just the game's name and it has little or nothing to do with trains.
The mirroring of the image may have some significance - the game might have something to do with reversing or mirroring. Or maybe they just did it to make it harder when you do a reverse image search. I dunno.
Edit: Actually, the record company's name might be important. It's called Dimension recordings. oOOoo.
dabig hammer
02-01-2011, 22:03
i wouldnt chalk the mirroring up to anything more than that it was meant to trip up reverse image searches... but i like what you're thinkin that it's only the name of the game but then again who knows?:confused:
Rich Kressly
02-01-2011, 22:03
756 posts on a game hint. I never recall, in my 10 years here on CD, there being 756 posts in a community service project thread ... just sayin' ... carry on ...
Cyberphil
02-01-2011, 22:06
756 posts on a game hint. I never recall, in my 10 years here on CD, there being 756 posts in a community service project thread ... just sayin' ... carry on ...
That is pretty impressive. :cool:
My guess is that Loco-motion is just the game's name and it has little or nothing to do with trains.
The game names usually do have some link to the game itself. I don't know what Breakaway had to do with soccer (I'm sure someone else can make the link), but Lunacy was a lunar game, Overdrive was NASCAR-style (driving), Rack 'n' Roll involved a rack (the spider), and Aim High involved shooting balls into high hoops.
But I am kind of curious...if you were to name the game Locomotion, what would the basic theme of the game be if it didn't have much to do with trains?
756 posts on a game hint. I never recall, in my 10 years here on CD, there being 756 posts in a community service project thread ... just sayin' ... carry on ...
Those threads are not typically 75% this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285110/beatdeadhorse5.gif
AAARrrgggghhhHH! We never learned from previous years!
Last years hint was completely useless!
...
*falls asleep*
Last year some enterprising and knowledgeable detectives used the quantum thicknesses of polycarbonate sheeting to dimension the clue object quite accurately. Further deduction about the arc size and rail separation shown in the object led to the correct "guess" about the use of soccer balls in the game. The learning done about the utility of hints was apparently done on the GDC end, since no such "easy" clue has been offered yet this year.
The clue before that? We missed the connection between slippery and fishes? Now, making that association would have been lunacy. Especially since fish have scales, and there are scales at the competitions, right?
Just a note about the song Loco-Motion. Written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King, maybe it's in the key of B-flat. If so, I'm guessing that the field this year will be flat. Good one, GDC. Are we having fun yet?
Snooze well. I hope you have a wake-up call in for the 8th, Mr. Duster. :D
JaneYoung
02-01-2011, 22:19
Just a note about the song Loco-Motion. Written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King, maybe it's in the key of B-flat. If so, I'm guessing that the field this year will be flat. Good one, GDC. Are we having fun yet?
:D
Didn't they write that because of her unique way of dancing?
Rich Kressly
02-01-2011, 22:21
Those threads are not typically 75% this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285110/beatdeadhorse5.gif
So you're presuming 189 posts in this thread are worthwhile? ;)
Elgin Clock
02-01-2011, 22:26
Jeesh people, if we're ever gonna make some progress on the clue, you can't reuse the same things (re:ideas).
Hence... I present you all these:
http://www.stewoo.net/beck/forum/style_emoticons/default/deadhorse.gif http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v214/willysmb44/th_beatingA_DeadHorse.gif http://media.scout.com/media/forums/emoticons/157/deadhorse.gif
There. Now isn't life great when there are options on how to be sarcastic? :p
Oh, & these past 5 pages have been HYSTERICAL btw. What a great thread to come back to CD & read after my long absence from the site. :D
Didn't they write that because of her unique way of dancing?
Carole sang backup on the Little Eva demo of Loco-motion. Eva was their nanny before getting into the music business. Apparently there was a follow-on song Old Smokey Loco-motion too. It's a very rich source of fuel for speculation, that's certain.
Oh, and the song was originally in E-flat, so there goes the basis for my prediction of a flat field this year. Ho Hum. I was sooooo close, too. :eek:
Grim Tuesday
02-01-2011, 22:39
The only other community I know that can create such outlandish conspiracy theories like this was when Valve launched the Portal 2 alternate reality game.
demosthenes2k8
02-01-2011, 22:40
Well I guess that joke fell.....
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flat. (YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!)
PS the other dead horse images are awesome.
Grim Tuesday
02-01-2011, 22:49
(YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!)
This YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FzCeV0ZFc)
or
this YEAHHHHHHHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKUBTX9kKEo)
I MUST KNOW!
So you're presuming 189 posts in this thread are worthwhile? ;)
Well yeah. Maybe 45 posts with new information and guesses, and the rest were discussion based on those posts. And 25 posts regarding Evan's ideas, too.
demosthenes2k8
02-01-2011, 23:03
The second YYEEAAHH. It would have made more sense if I had added a picture of safety goggles.
liam.larkin
02-01-2011, 23:04
UUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
My fiance has about had it. "Are you on that Robots site again; You need help"
After reviewing all and I mean all of the threads posted here. I have come to the conclusion that I and for that matter most of us have no idea and will just have to wait with bated breath.
dabig hammer
02-01-2011, 23:15
i'm inclined to agree
liam.larkin
02-01-2011, 23:32
I will say the one of the games designed by my man Tetraman was very interesting and got the neurons firing and the juices flowing. This does seem at least plausable and contains enough complex elements (multiple scoring end game and the like) as has become the GDC's way.
Elgin Clock
02-01-2011, 23:33
Did someone mention columns??? ::safety::
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1734/138/120/48808339/n48808339_32510704_4508.jpg
Team#2057-Vegas
03-01-2011, 01:10
I will say the one of the games designed by my man Tetraman was very interesting and got the neurons firing and the juices flowing. This does seem at least plausable and contains enough complex elements (multiple scoring end game and the like) as has become the GDC's way.
i agree.. it would be an insanely amazing game indeed!
we'll know for sure in 5-6 days ::safety::
klmx30302
03-01-2011, 06:19
only 5 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes and 30 seconds till kickoff!
GaryVoshol
03-01-2011, 06:41
My fiance has about had it. "Are you on that Robots site again; You need help" Tell her to get used to it. Or yes, you may need help: marital counselling type of help. ;)
MaxMax161
03-01-2011, 08:39
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but if it has I have a feeling that no one is going to see it buried deep in posts. I'm trying to think of weird stuff that doesn't make and sense, because if it does make sense then it's not a FIRST hint. The first thing that comes to mind is that the picture is 252x281, which isn't a standard picture aspect ratio. 252/281 is 0.896797153 if that means anything to any one. Maybe it's got a a code or something hidden inside it?
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 09:12
756 posts on a game hint. I never recall, in my 10 years here on CD, there being 756 posts in a community service project thread ... just sayin' ... carry on ...
Think of it this way: this thread is another way for the GDC to get some ideas. The more we hypothesize what game elements we would use and how we would go about playing a game the more the GDC and Dave have to think about. Not saying they will use, but at least think about.
thefro526
03-01-2011, 09:13
I've tried to keep my theories to myself this entire time, since the thread was moving to fast for me to even attempt to keep up anyway... But now that the thread seems to have slowed down a bit, I figured I'd post up.
It's FRC's 20th Season and it seems that they're going to try to pay homage to their past, what better way to do so than with recreating a game from the past. (Past so distant that only a handful of people that played the game are still around) I think that First is creating a variant of Maize Craze, and here are my reasons:
1) Dave posted up a large Tennis ball a few months back. Now, we all know that Dave likes to lead us on with false hints and funny bits of humor, but this one sort of spoke to me. The Tennis ball was the perfect size for an FRC competition, relatively easy to get, very clearly visible and distinct from a hundred feet away, so why not have it for a game piece?
2) There is a column clearly visible in the first hint, though it seems that it's been overlooked by many of the current game theories. In Maize Craze there was also a column where a Tennis Ball rested at the beginning of the match and was to be removed to score points.
3) Again, it's an important year for FRC. What better way to celebrate a bright history than to relive some parts of it? I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one or two things from previous games make it into the 2011 game.
4) Also, the image used for the hint has been reversed from it's original. So it's the same - but different. I don't know if the reversing is as important as that idea.
I'm sure there are some flaws in this theory, but it was where I went when I thought about everything...
The game names usually do have some link to the game itself. I don't know what Breakaway had to do with soccer (I'm sure someone else can make the link),
Here you go:
2. The act of breaking away, especially:
a. An offensive play in a team sport such as ice hockey in which a player with the ball or puck advances ahead of the defenders toward the goal.
b. A burst of speed by a competitor or group of competitors in a race to break free of the pack.
Natesbug73
03-01-2011, 09:21
I don't know if anybody else has posted this already but after some looking around, I found a paper by Hans P Moravec titled "Locomotion, Vision and Intelligence", from the Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon. The paper concerned AI and robotic vision used in the CMU Rover. Keep looking and find that more recently he has been working on stereoscopic vision and in 2003 started a company called SEEGRID which is working on autonomous control for vehicles using visual sensors.
May be of use, may not.
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 09:36
Does anyone have a picture or graphic that would show me the Maize Craze field? I'd love to design something that worked off of that.
I see the wikipedia page on Maize Craze describes it...but does anyone have a picture of it?
EDIT: I see the FIRST wiki has more info...
Robert Cawthon
03-01-2011, 09:43
Didn't they write that because of her unique way of dancing?
No, apparently not. Rather, when she started to do live shows, she had to come up with dance moves that reflected the name of the song.
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but if it has I have a feeling that no one is going to see it buried deep in posts. I'm trying to think of weird stuff that doesn't make and sense, because if it does make sense then it's not a FIRST hint. The first thing that comes to mind is that the picture is 252x281, which isn't a standard picture aspect ratio. 252/281 is 0.896797153 if that means anything to any one. Maybe it's got a a code or something hidden inside it?
The bottom of the original picture was cropped to eliminate the writing on it.
We need to come up with a new platitude because "beating a dead horse" is incorrect to describe what has been going on.
It refers to the fact that you can't make a dead horse move no matter how hard you beat it or an idea that has no merit or chance of moving forward will not move forward no matter how many times you bring it up.
It has nothing to do with repeating the same thing fact and over again.
Thoughts?
for example:
That kid who keeps saying that herding is a winning strategy in Overdrive over and over again even though your team had decided it isn't is "beating a dead horse."
Mark McLeod
03-01-2011, 09:57
Does anyone have a picture or graphic that would show me the Maize Craze field? I'd love to design something that worked off of that.
I see the wikipedia page on Maize Craze describes it...but does anyone have a picture of it?
EDIT: I see the FIRST wiki has more info...
Rules: http://team358.org/history/1992-1999/1992comp.pdf
We need to come up with a new platitude because "beating a dead horse" is incorrect to describe what has been going on.
It refers to the fact that you can't make a dead horse move no matter how hard you beat it or an idea that has no merit or chance of moving forward will not move forward no matter how many times you bring it up.
It has nothing to do with repeating the same thing fact and over again.
Thoughts?
for example:
That kid who keeps saying that herding is a winning strategy in Overdrive over and over again even though your team had decided it isn't is "beating a dead horse."
Those who don't study history (or threads) are bound to repeat it?
MaxMax161
03-01-2011, 10:08
I don't know if anybody else has posted this already but after some looking around, I found a paper by Hans P Moravec titled "Locomotion, Vision and Intelligence", from the Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon. The paper concerned AI and robotic vision used in the CMU Rover. Keep looking and find that more recently he has been working on stereoscopic vision and in 2003 started a company called SEEGRID which is working on autonomous control for vehicles using visual sensors.
May be of use, may not.
I think this is a good path of thought. I've heard a lot about autonomous robots and vision and I think it's something that the GDC keeps trying to implement. I would suspect that this hint is telling us that this game is going to have a focus on autonomous operation. I'm thinking that might mean a longer autonomous mode, more vision elements, or something of that nature.
We need to come up with a new platitude because "beating a dead horse" is incorrect to describe what has been going on.
It refers to the fact that you can't make a dead horse move no matter how hard you beat it or an idea that has no merit or chance of moving forward will not move forward no matter how many times you bring it up.
It has nothing to do with repeating the same thing fact and over again.
Thoughts?
for example:
That kid who keeps saying that herding is a winning strategy in Overdrive over and over again even though your team had decided it isn't is "beating a dead horse."
But I like the horse .gif...
No matter how much we plead, nobody else is ever going to read the first five pages of the thread before posting for the first time?
FIRSTtm134
03-01-2011, 10:48
My guess is that Loco-motion is just the game's name and it has little or nothing to do with trains.
Here is a thought
Loco = crazy
motion = movement
Some sort of Crazy or bizarre movements either in where you can drive on the field or arms, kickers, etc.
If only there was a way to hide pages 6-infinity until pages 1-5 were viewed.
Alan Anderson
03-01-2011, 11:13
756 posts on a game hint. I never recall, in my 10 years here on CD, there being 756 posts in a community service project thread ... just sayin' ... carry on ...
I can't find the bottle cap thread to see how big it got, but even it wasn't 50+ pages.
Robert Cawthon
03-01-2011, 12:11
I can't find the bottle cap thread to see how big it got, but even it wasn't 50+ pages.
If all of the repeats and side posts (like this one) were removed, it would probably fit in 15 - 20 pages. Or less. :rolleyes:
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 13:39
We need to come up with a new platitude because "beating a dead horse" is incorrect to describe what has been going on.
Thoughts?
"Charging a full battery" - aka it's already full, there is no need to keep it going.
"Running in Circles" - aka going over and over the same idea and getting nowhere.
Maize Craze 2
(I didn't add all the tennis balls because it's starting to crash my laptop. haha.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/MaizeCraze2a.png
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/MaizeCraze2b.png
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/MaizeCraze2c.png
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/MaizeCraze2d.png
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/MaizeCraze2e.png
arizonafoxx
03-01-2011, 13:45
We need to come up with a new platitude because "beating a dead horse" is incorrect to describe what has been going on.
It refers to the fact that you can't make a dead horse move no matter how hard you beat it or an idea that has no merit or chance of moving forward will not move forward no matter how many times you bring it up.
It has nothing to do with repeating the same thing fact and over again.
Thoughts?
for example:
That kid who keeps saying that herding is a winning strategy in Overdrive over and over again even though your team had decided it isn't is "beating a dead horse."
Perhaps maybe groundhogging? Reading the exact same posts everyday do to the repeating of previous posts.
I can't find the bottle cap thread to see how big it got, but even it wasn't 50+ pages.
This is the downfall of having only 1 official hint. Come on hint 2. We still have 5 days to get that post up to 700+. Or maybe we should just get this thread up to 1000+ just for fun.
JaneYoung
03-01-2011, 13:46
"Running in Circles" - aka going over and over the same idea and getting nowhere.
A circle run is an old term that was used for running a circuit in the country among farms, tending/training/breaking horses. It beats beating them.
(I didn't add all the tennis balls because it's starting to crash my laptop. haha.)
Now I think you're getting somewhere.
As I said earlier the name of the game will be Loco-Motion but it will have nothing to do with trains but with crazy movement.
I also agree with the idea of a re-creation of maze craze and have been thinking about what the crazy surface would be instead of corn and then you nail it, tennis balls!
I however don't think the column in the pic means anything. It's just the most common picture of LE.
Throw in a square scoring object, I'm tired of balls.
Throw in a square scoring object, I'm tired of balls.
I'd prefer if they kept the scoring object round in some respect. Picking up a square one can be fairly difficult to do in rapid succession due to the random orientations of the game pieces. VRC 2008-2009 (Elevation (http://www.vexforum.com/showthread.php?t=4841)) was a good example of that.
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 14:06
Now I think you're getting somewhere.
As I said earlier the name of the game will be Loco-Motion but it will have nothing to do with trains but with crazy movement.
I also agree with the idea of a re-creation of maze craze and have been thinking about what the crazy surface would be instead of corn and then you nail it, tennis balls!
I however don't think the column in the pic means anything. It's just the most common picture of LE.
Throw in a square scoring object, I'm tired of balls.
I just don't know where FIRST is going to find nearly 1000 tennis balls per regional. (at least enough for the 8 or so traveling regional) Did they get some deal with the USopen? haha. But yea, thinking big, I like this for a recreation of Maize Craze.
I'll work on some more of these ideas and this track of thinking.
As for Squares, Im not sure what would be a good item other then PVC cubes. Hmm... Maybe bring back Tetras? Or something new? I've always wanted to see those big water jugs you have on water coolers.
As for Squares, Im not sure what would be a good item other then PVC cubes. Hmm...
Sterilite containers lined with concrete or polycarb to protect against breaking.
*ducks the wrath of anybody around in 2003*
Well, what kind of game pieces have they used over these 20 years? Balls, tetras, discs, the plastic bins for 2003, _____? I mean I would have to think that 95% of the FIRST games have used balls, if so, I would bet this year would be a game with balls as its game piece.
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 14:14
Sterilite containers lined with concrete or polycarb to protect against breaking.
*ducks the wrath of anybody around in 2003*
*throws a tetra in your direction*
:p
I just don't know where FIRST is going to find nearly 1000 tennis balls per regional. (at least enough for the 8 or so traveling regional) Did they get some deal with the USopen? haha. But yea, thinking big, I like this for a recreation of Maize Craze.
I'll work on some more of these ideas and this track of thinking.
As for Squares, Im not sure what would be a good item other then PVC cubes. Hmm... Maybe bring back Tetras? Or something new? I've always wanted to see those big water jugs you have on water coolers.
what would be worse is being on the field reset crew :)
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 14:22
what would be worse is being on the field reset crew :)
Yea...A shame for me that Field Reset is my favorite position to be volunteering in.
It wouldn't be the same as loose tennis balls, but if the tennis balls were cut in half and then glued or nailed onto large boards - you'd have a very bumpy surface to have a robot traverse.
Well, what kind of game pieces have they used over these 20 years? Balls, tetras, discs, the plastic bins for 2003, _____? I mean I would have to think that 95% of the FIRST games have used balls, if so, I would bet this year would be a game with balls as its game piece.
More like 75%
We have had balls three years in a row. We haven't had 4 ball oriented games in a row since the first 6 games. Time for a change
DonRotolo
03-01-2011, 14:36
what would be worse is being on the field reset crew :)
Naah - picking up a hundred tennis balls is easy - just ask any Tennis Pro: They have devices for this. (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wilson-Tennis-Ball-Pick-Up-Hopper/5650674?sourceid=1500000000000003260410&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5650674)
joeduderey
03-01-2011, 14:40
I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but there was an arcade game in the 80's called loco-motion!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_(arcade_game)
Robert Cawthon
03-01-2011, 14:40
Naah - picking up a hundred tennis balls is easy - just ask any Tennis Pro: They have devices for this. (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wilson-Tennis-Ball-Pick-Up-Hopper/5650674?sourceid=1500000000000003260410&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5650674)
The real challange would be to get them spread out evenly again for the reset, assuming that they are a part of the playing field and not a game piece.
JaneYoung
03-01-2011, 14:43
The real challange would be to get them spread out evenly again for the reset, assuming that they are a part of the playing field and not a game piece.
Well, one thing we all know is the value of time in the competition. If time is spent herding cats (balls on the loose) then time is lost, eaten up, gone, aloha. Mark Koors would not be happy and we can't have that.
Jane
I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but there was an arcade game in the 80's called loco-motion!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_(arcade_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_%28arcade_game))I didn't see that one yet...
But if that's what the game hint refers to, the GDC is even more insane and evil than we thought they were.
That would be a pretty interesting game. Having to change the track direction of a continuously moving train to your side of the field so that your robots and human players could score points by getting the game pieces(Passengers) into the cars behind the engine.
skistunts1
03-01-2011, 14:56
Not sure if this has already been said, but since the girl is holding on to the column, the game could be somewhat similar to the FTC game this year, which has PVC batons as game pieces. We could have a similar game piece to them.
Then again, this game hint probably doesn't tell us anything or mean anything to us until we've actually seen the game animation. and usually the game hints only have something to to with a small part of the game. The 2009 hint was just talking about the slippery surface, and the 2010 hint was just a piece of the ball return. It's rare that the game hint actually reveals something as important as the game piece.
DonRotolo
03-01-2011, 14:59
I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but there was an arcade game in the 80's called loco-motion!!
Having to change the track direction of a continuously moving train
Kind of like the staircases at Hogwarts...
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 15:21
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/FRCField6.png
Hmm...Still trying things out... Not sure about placement.
What if FIRST actually does buy a massive bulk quantity of dried corn kernels to be the base flooring of this year's game?
DonRotolo
03-01-2011, 15:28
What if FIRST actually does buy a massive bulk quantity of dried corn kernels to be the base flooring of this year's game?We get popcorn at every event!
Here's how the stairways would work:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.lipson/escher/relativity.jpg
Robert Cawthon
03-01-2011, 15:28
What if FIRST actually does buy a massive bulk quantity of dried corn kernels to be the base flooring of this year's game?
Some states would make them jump through hoops to allow them to import the raw corn.
Some states would make them jump through hoops to allow them to import the raw corn.
Yup it was fine for one gym in New Hampshire but I can't imagine it even being allowed in most venues. The potential fire hazard alone would be prohibitive.
There needs to be a scaled up substitute.
Tetraman
03-01-2011, 15:51
Adding some extra "Maize" flooring ideas. Imange if the whole floor of the Maize area was like this.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/Flooring.png
billbo911
03-01-2011, 16:18
Adding some extra "Maize" flooring ideas. Imange if the whole floor of the Maize area was like this.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/Flooring.png
I believe a pre '67 VW rear suspension like drive-train might have to be implemented. (AKA Trailing Arm).
The bummer is, I just don't see a floor like that being used. It wouldn't be safe for students and volunteers to walk on. To much of a falling and/or trip hazard.
Too bad, it would make for some really cool drive-train designs.
If you think about it, EVA, is short for Extra-Vehicular Activity, which is related to space. It could have something to do with NASA, the Space Shuttle Program, or the ISS. The 30th aniversary of the Shuttle Program will correspond with come of the regional competitions.
JaneYoung
03-01-2011, 17:43
We get popcorn at every event!
Here's how the stairways would work:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.lipson/escher/relativity.jpg
You've given me a headache, Don.
Jane
More like 75%
We have had balls three years in a row. We haven't had 4 ball oriented games in a row since the first 6 games. Time for a change
Yeah.
I'd like a game piece that isn't a ball. Joining in 2008, I haven't ever played a FRC game without having to figure out how to manipulate a ball.
Team#2057-Vegas
03-01-2011, 18:06
I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but there was an arcade game in the 80's called loco-motion!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_(arcade_game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_%28arcade_game%29 <-- fixed url..
i think this is actually possible.. turning tracks by pushing knobs maybe.. and then the side person on the field (forget the name) controlling the train on the tracks.. maybe we really are getting too far into the idea.. anyways.. this game was presented to the public in 1982 which also corresponds to anniversaries of other dates.. hmm.. this would be interesting
billbo911
03-01-2011, 18:06
If you think about it, EVA, is short for Extra-Vehicular Activity, which is related to space. ....
Welcome to Chiefdelphi!
This was first mentioned on page 13 of this thread. Post # 182
384drtysteve101
03-01-2011, 18:47
"Come on baby, do the locomotion"
Welcome to Chiefdelphi!
This was first mentioned on page 13 of this thread. Post # 182
Woah. Did someone use the search function? :eek:
Dustin Shadbolt
03-01-2011, 19:29
Woah. Did someone use the search function? :eek:
how can this be?:confused: let's just hope the game is fun and fast. Here's to a great kickoff/buildseason everyone!
I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but there was an arcade game in the 80's called loco-motion!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_(arcade_game)
You finally hit on an idea that can be easily done. The field pieces in the game are cubes. They slide into position. The reset is simple. I love it!!
here is the wikipedia description.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco-Motion_%28arcade_game%29
The player builds a path for their unstoppable locomotive by moving tracks which will allow it to pick up passengers.
[edit] Description
Loco-Motion is basically an updated version of a sliding block puzzle game where the player can move pieces horizontally or vertically within a frame to complete a picture. However, the presence of a constantly moving locomotive complicates matters. The player controls the playfield and the aim is to guide the locomotive around the tracks to collect the passengers waiting at the stations located around the edges of the screen.
this is much better than a game with a dead horse... :yikes:
Alan Anderson
03-01-2011, 20:04
It's rare that the game hint actually reveals something as important as the game piece.
It does happen. The picture of piece of the ball return for Breakaway was enough for many people to conclude that it was designed for something the size of a soccer ball. The close-up of the #5 spider leg for Rack 'n' Roll got a few thinking of translucent inner tubes. Aim High's "game piece obsessed with a shovel's show" got correctly decoded as "Just Shoot Me" and led us to conclude that things would be thrown, though "Montana's green heights" seemed to point more toward (American) footballs.
You finally hit on an idea that can be easily done. The field pieces in the game are cubes. They slide into position. The reset is simple. I love it!!
I don't think that's very likely. It would be too similar to Stack Attack back in '03.
JaneYoung
03-01-2011, 20:17
I don't think that's very likely. It would be too similar to Stack Attack back in '03.
I'd like another gander at that one. I was too much of a noob to appreciate it.
I'd like another gander at that one. I was too much of a noob to appreciate it.
I agree, it would be fun; i was only 9 years old then :yikes:
I'd like another gander at that one. I was too much of a noob to appreciate it.
you took post 829
JaneYoung
03-01-2011, 20:27
you took post 829
:o
Sorry, Scott. I was all excited about Stack Attack possibilities.
Bjenks548
03-01-2011, 20:33
I don't think that's very likely. It would be too similar to Stack Attack back in '03.
Your assuming large cubes, what if the the cubes were say 6in. This would pose a completely new problem as now the robots would need to control many cubes.
Your assuming large cubes, what if the the cubes were say 6in. This would pose a completely new problem as now the robots would need to control many cubes.
I understand that the design process could be different, but the appeal and look of the game would be very similar to stack attack (unless we dumped them somewhere, but that would also be similar to other games in the past). I do like the idea thats been floating around FIRST however that the ball will be very small or very big this year. I think that it's a big possibility.
Barbarossa
03-01-2011, 22:43
Since "Little Eva" picture is backwards...
"Little Eva" backwards - "ave elttil"
AVE is a high-speed train connecting cities in Spain
AVE is celebrating its 20th Aniversary
First is celebrating its 20th Aniversary
Locomotion / High Speed Train / 20th / 20th
Barbarossa
03-01-2011, 22:54
AVE is celebrating its 20th Aniversary
First is celebrating its 20th Aniversary
Locomotion / High Speed Train / 20th / 20th
Spain won the 2010 World cup which "Breakaway" was based on. Too many connections.
CottonBall
04-01-2011, 11:22
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, haven't read all the apges yet, but note how the image is reflected. We al know this by now, right? But think thy did they do it? Anyone know anything about the human brain and eyes? When light is taken in what the eyes see is the OPPOSITE of what it really is, right? In other words, reflected. So, this can suggested the heavy use or emphasis of an opptical game, aka cameras. I've noticed that over the past two years they've been introducing and putting more effort in encouraging people to use robotic sensors with the advantage of targeting and less guess work. So the game may potentially have more emphasis. I do remeber the year our team began they did say more sensors will be being used in competition.
I'll post more of my ideas later, this is all I can type up for no, currently at school.
Cyberphil
04-01-2011, 12:26
The size of the image is 252x281 pixels. 281-252=29. Hmmmmm. Probably nothing, but you never know..
GaryVoshol
04-01-2011, 12:49
The size of the image is 252x281 pixels. 281-252=29. Hmmmmm. Probably nothing, but you never know..
And Hint 2 is 315 X 223. 315 - 223 = 92. Coincidence?
29 + 92 = 121. What year was it that Team 121 posted their working design about 3 weeks before Ship?
BrendanB
04-01-2011, 12:59
And Hint 2 is 315 X 223. 315 - 223 = 92. Coincidence?
29 + 92 = 121. What year was it that Team 121 posted their working design about 3 weeks before Ship?
I believe that was 2008 Overdrive.
maniac_2040
04-01-2011, 13:03
I don't think that's very likely. It would be too similar to Stack Attack back in '03.
Well, Little Eva died in April, 2003. Perhaps that is a reference to the Stack Attack game in 03? :confused: Some have mentioned that this game may be a combination of previous games...
robocharger3005
04-01-2011, 13:58
Hey FRC Nation,
We believe the photo is Little Eva and she recorded the song "Locomotion".
Maybe the game has something to do with motion and trains.
robocharger3005
MaxMax161
04-01-2011, 13:59
Hmm while reading all these posts I started to get an image of a maze like game where robots and/or human players dynamically change the field. Maybe the goal of the game would to travel the furthest or make the most turns (easier to count). There would be a bunch of different ways to move the walls so there would be a few robot niches. Maybe the end game would be that the robots can't move walls anymore and need to to get from one end of the field of the other. As I reread this is sounds totally nuts but entertaining anyway.
Hey FRC Nation,
We believe the photo is Little Eva and she recorded the song "Locomotion".
Maybe the game has something to do with motion and trains.
robocharger3005
this has to be a joke, right?
swwrobotics
04-01-2011, 14:25
Little EVA - Locomotion - walking robots
from Wikipedia
Robot locomotion is the study of how to design robot appendages and control mechanisms to allow robots to move fluidly and efficiently. Although wheeled robots are typically quite energy efficient and simple to control, other forms of locomotion may be more appropriate for a number of reasons (e.g. traversing rough terrain, moving and interacting in human environments). Furthermore, studying biped and insect-like robots may impact biomechanics.
I definitely think you have something here. The column could be in reference to actually climbing something or "traversing rough terrain".
the same picture is a smooth column i think the grooves in the column could mean something about the terrain
this has to be a joke, right?
Probably not -- probably someone who's trying to get his/her team acquainted with CD in a seemingly lower visibility way. Little does he/she know that game hint threads have more minions and trolls come out of nooks and crannies than any technical, funny, or inspiring threads ever created.
Welcome to ChiefDelphi, RoboChargers.
Robert Cawthon
04-01-2011, 14:30
Probably not -- probably someone who's trying to get his/her team acquainted with CD in a seemingly lower visibility way. Little does he/she know that game hint threads have more minions and trolls come out of nooks and crannies than any technical, funny, or inspiring threads ever created.
Welcome to ChiefDelphi, RoboChargers.
Little do they realize how closely the game hint threads are watched!
JaneYoung
04-01-2011, 14:47
What may be happening is the return to school after the holidays. Newly registered teams are checking their e-mail accounts and posting information they received over the holidays. Just guessing but - a rookie team wouldn't necessarily be checking e-mails/updates continually during the holidays. Heck, veteran teams don't.
So, this could be an explanation for seeing new members and new posts in these threads.
In the meantime, we can all be nice.
Jane
Robert Cawthon
04-01-2011, 14:50
In the meantime, we can all be nice.
Jane
Nice? Isn't that a town in France? :rolleyes:
klmx30302
04-01-2011, 15:02
http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/content.aspx?id=18713
HINT 2 IS OUT!!!!!!!
Andrew Lawrence
04-01-2011, 15:03
I'm hoping on the subject of a train-based game. Not where the bots have to be connected (to hard to program, and I can't use tank drive!), but where there is a train surrounding the field. That would be fun.
I've heard ideas of steam powered robots, but that's highly improbable, and illogical. What do you need to create steam? Water. What do robots hate the most? Water. I don't think there will be any steam or water this year, because it would be too easy to "accidentally" spill on another team's robot. Plus, if your robot gets hit or the water tank gets hit, then your robot will get splashed with water, decimating most team's robots before most of the matches are done.
I've also heard ideas of a mix of all previous competitions. That's possible, but it would be very difficult to do, and very confusing. Every game has at least one factor in it that would cause a confliction with the other games. There's the balls. All have had different weights, materials, and textures. Another example is that it would be hard to hang your robot if everyone's firing balls at the hoop you hang from. So I don't think it would be a mixed game.
Andrew Lawrence
04-01-2011, 15:18
I'm hoping on the subject of a train-based game. Not where the bots have to be connected (to hard to program, and I can't use tank drive!), but where there is a train surrounding the field. That would be fun.
I've heard ideas of steam powered robots, but that's highly improbable, and illogical. What do you need to create steam? Water. What do robots hate the most? Water. I don't think there will be any steam or water this year, because it would be too easy to "accidentally" spill on another team's robot. Plus, if your robot gets hit or the water tank gets hit, then your robot will get splashed with water, decimating most team's robots before most of the matches are done.
I've also heard ideas of a mix of all previous competitions. That's possible, but it would be very difficult to do, and very confusing. Every game has at least one factor in it that would cause a confliction with the other games. There's the balls. All have had different weights, materials, and textures. Another example is that it would be hard to hang your robot if everyone's firing balls at the hoop you hang from. So I don't think it would be a mixed game.
Never mind that second part. It seems as if it will be a mix-up game after all!
perry3018
04-01-2011, 15:28
Not sure - but think it could be Florence Ballard, who was one of the Supremes of '60s Motown fame.
EDIT:
If it is - one of their hits was. "You keep me hangin' on."
The girl is Eva little
she sang the logo motion
http://www.ocps.co.uk/assets/images/Bang_Head.gif
Robert Cawthon
04-01-2011, 15:43
http://www.ocps.co.uk/assets/images/Bang_Head.gif
Not unless its cushioned. My head is sore from banging it against the wall.
Andrew Lawrence
04-01-2011, 16:04
Not unless its cushioned. My head is sore from banging it against the wall.
I guess SOMEONE doesn't like the idea of a mixed game. I'm not all too excited about it, but at least it will be interesting!
JaneYoung
04-01-2011, 16:14
The girl is Eva little
she sang the logo motion
'logo motion' is a most excellent play on words based on Hint #2.
Ok here is my speculation. Ok the pic is of Little Eva and her hit song The Loco Motive came out in 1962 go search 1962 in wikipedia on Jan. 8th of that year Dutch train crash (A.K.A a locomotive) killing 92 people AND Jan. 8th is the kick-off. Anyway this could be related?
Edit: On the second hint (BTW it is out now) thread there was a guy saying something about trailers as goals and the Logo kind of reminds me of keys on a ring and the triangle, circle, and square being the keys and the trailers being the holes?
Andrew Lawrence
04-01-2011, 16:19
Ok here is my speculation. Ok the pic is of Little Eva and her hit song The Loco Motive came out in 1962 go search 1962 in wikipedia on Jan. 8th of that year Dutch train crash (A.K.A a locomotive) killing 92 people AND Jan. 8th is the kick-off. Anyway this could be related?
Though FIRST usually integrates history into their themes, I don't think they would have their history be part of a train crash, with people dying. Usually their history has something to do with positive events towards the growth of technology and science. Nice try, though!
Andrew Lawrence
04-01-2011, 16:20
'logo motion' is a most excellent play on words based on Hint #2.
Sounds good! But I also think it could now be the mixed game, with aspects of other games integrated in it.
We of team 1559 believe that this picture is in fact of the singer Little Eva(Look it up on Google images if you don't believe me). She is known for singing the songs "The Locomotion" and "Back on Tracks". I see trains in our future!
*sigh*
For the Ten Trillionth Time, please, I'm begging you all. READ THE FIRST FIVE PAGES OF THIS THREAD. Thank you.
gvarndell
04-01-2011, 17:23
We of team 1559 believe that this picture is in fact of the singer Little Eva(Look it up on Google images if you don't believe me). She is known for singing the songs "The Locomotion" and "Back on Tracks". I see trains in our future!
Wow, no flies on you guys. Thanks for sharing.
DonRotolo
04-01-2011, 20:10
The second hint is the FIRST Logo!
:rolleyes: (Just shoot me now, please)
logo-motion...I like that!
We of team 1559 believe that this picture is in fact of the singer Little Eva(Look it up on Google images if you don't believe me). She is known for singing the songs "The Locomotion" and "Back on Tracks". I see trains in our future!
I don't believe you.
Tetraman
04-01-2011, 20:34
I can see Dave during the kickoff webcast:
"Apparently no one really got the hint. See, it's a picture of Little Eva, a singer in the 1960s. And one of her hit songs was 'Locomotion'"
If he does this I'll find him one day I'll buy him a krispy kreme.
EDIT: Think of it this way. At least no one can do the same to Hint #2. "I figured out Hint 2! It's the FIRST Logo!"
Mike Schreiber
04-01-2011, 22:15
Alright this one's a stretch, I'm thinking since Little Eva recently (2003) passed away the GDC is implying they are going to bring her back. This year will have the theme zombie apocalypse.
I just wanted to throw a unique idea out there since I'm sick of hearing water game.
Alright this one's a stretch, I'm thinking since Little Eva recently (2003) passed away the GDC is implying they are going to bring her back. This year will have the theme zombie apocalypse.
I just wanted to throw a unique idea out there since I'm sick of hearing water game.
And everyone knows that to battle zombies you need one ultimate weapon: holy water. Lots of it.
Water game.
(sorry, I just couldn't resist)
.
Joe Schornak
04-01-2011, 22:23
I'll post this here too. I'm proud of it, and conversation on the Hint #2 thread seems to have stagnated. Nothing like a little bit of deep thought and redundant posting to spice up one's day!
Alright, excessively detailed hint and game analysis time! Before we launch into wild speculation (too late!), I feel that we should take a look at the factors that have historically determined past game elements.
FRC Game Morphology
By Joe Schornak
I believe that one of the most important factors of pre-Kickoff game prediction is analysis of previous games and previous years. FIRST has quite a bit of infrastructure set out already, and will likely try to keep as much of that the same as possible. For example:
-The Field. There are already a number of existing competition quality field kits in existence, and FIRST will probably not heavily modify them due to cost and labor. This field must also be able to fit a variety of venues, from sports stadiums to high-school gyms. Thus, factors like field size and shape, robot count, alliance number, and field surface will be dependent on the existing field.
-The Kitbot. The game must be playable by the most basic of robots. This has been a feature of past games; robots could herd trackballs and run laps in Overdrive, avoid opponents and push balls to the return slots in Lunacy, and play defense and score goals in Breakaway. While some game elements will be more complicated, to encourage robot variety and challenge veteran teams, the game must be fundamentally simple.
-The Matching System. FIRST's current team ranking and matchmaking system is designed for use in the two-alliance system. While I am not particularly well-versed in such things, I suspect that it would take quite a bit of work to develop and troubleshoot a three-alliance program. A one-alliance program could be possible, or simpler, but I consider a one-alliance game unlikely, for reasons I will detail later.
FIRST will also attempt to keep the field as technologically simple as possible, due to the difficulties that arise with more complex systems. All field elements will be gravity-fed or human-operated, and will be no more complex than the Breakaway ball return track sensor, which often led to technical difficulties despite its relative small size and narrow field of effect. The elements must also be sturdy enough to be bashed by robots for weeks on end, since they are re-used for each regional event.
Since it is well-known that the GDC develops the game using humans in place of robots, the game must be playable (at least basically) by students with minimal equipment. The game elements must also be simple and made of easily acquirable materials, so that teams can construct mock-ups for practice.
The game must also be exciting and easy for non-nerd onlookers to comprehend. Overdrive and Breakaway are good examples of this; the object of the game is evident, and the action is easy to follow. This ties into FIRST's goal of making the competition more accessible to a wider audience. This requirement makes very technical games unlikely. Additionally, since competitive games are more exciting and understandable to an audience, a single-alliance, non-competitive game is unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.
The game must also accommodate rookie teams with little to no previous experience. This ties into the kitbot factor above, but it also involves a skill and resource component. Teams that have yet to establish a strong mentor and industry base could find it more difficult than other teams to construct a large, complex robot or manipulator. The game must also not be entirely sensor-based; despite working on the problem constantly since last season, my team has yet to fully solve all the issues behind our camera, gyroscope, and accelerometer, only managing to achieve a fully-autonomous kick and goal last week. While there may be a reward for sensor use, the game must fundamentally be playable without any sensors.
Summing up:
This year's game will be played on a predominately flat field, to accommodate teams using kit-provided frames and wheels. There may be raised elements, but it will not be necessary to interact with them to contribute to the game. It will almost certainly be beneficial to do so, but the game will not hinge on them. The field will use the current basic setup, with alliance stations on either end of the field. The game will feature two alliances in tense head-to-head competition. The game object will either be easy to build or purchase (provided that Walmart doesn't run out this time), or it will come with the kit. It will be large enough to see from the other end of a gymnasium, and will be a color contrasting the primary field color. Bumpers will be required, although the game will not necessarily be contact-focused.
Now for some hint analysis...
Knowing previous game hint patterns, the "answer" to the hint(s) was likely discovered within the first eight pages of the hint thread. Thus, the first hint's primary answer is Locomotion. This has a number of possible interpretations. "Locomotion" would be an excellent game name. In fact, I believe that this is the true answer to the hint. It would be just like the GDC to reveal the game's name in a hint, knowing that the FIRST community would immediately discard such an audacious move as impossible. Unfortunately, little about the game itself can be drawn from the game's name. We must dig further!
I find it significant that the name of one of Little Eva's record labels was Dimension Records. This is a very "sciency" term, and just the sort of thing that the GDC would pick up on. Dimension can refer to a number of mathematical concepts, from multiple dimensions and their relation to location and time, to the volume of an object in space. While a fourth-dimensional game would certainly be interesting, I find more meaning in the latter, since all past FRC games have dealt with three-dimensional objects on a plane.
While intriguing by themselves, these factors become infinitely more intriguing when taken in the context of the second hint. Tetraman's discovery about the relation of the volume of the cylinder to that of the sphere and the cone is very significant, since it ties into something that FIRST has evidently used in the past. And behold! A cylinder is present in the original photograph! Despite these clear connections, I have no idea what these relations mean.
What about the symbology of the FIRST logo? The logo consists of three different parts, inseparably linked together. While different in shape and color, they remain unified by their common linkages. This is representative of the three-alliance system; three different robots and teams united together for a common goal! It also represents FIRST’s philosophy of coopertition; although they are different and perhaps at odds with each other, the shapes still work together and remain connected.
As always, the information provided in the game hints is far too limited to determine the game, or really anything relating to the game beyond its name and theme. However, I feel that with careful analysis of FIRST’s patterns in designing the game, the possibilities can be narrowed down to a range of potential games. While FIRST could release a third hint that will tie all this together, it is more likely that a certain Mr. Lavery will appear to sow mayhem.
Oh. He already did. Hm.
Best of luck in the coming season!
rcmolloy
04-01-2011, 22:25
And everyone knows that to battle zombies you need one ultimate weapon: holy water. Lots of it.
Water game.
(sorry, I just couldn't resist)
.
DAVE!!!!!!
http://www.gadv.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif
Creator Mat
04-01-2011, 22:27
Ok is it just me or does the thomas and friends theme song draw some parallels with what is being talked about in this thread and themes of first? trains, gracious proffesionlism, etc...
see the theme song here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw522GIskVc)
Fallout coach
05-01-2011, 10:54
I think the lady in the picture is Fontella Bass. Her hit song was "Rescue me"
GaryVoshol
05-01-2011, 12:18
I think the lady in the picture is Fontella Bass. Her hit song was "Rescue me"
871 posters above you in this thread think you are wrong. Maybe you can read some of the posts to find out why.
Robert Cawthon
05-01-2011, 12:29
I think "Rescue Me" is quite appropriate for this post. Its time someone did. I still look everytime someone updates it.
skebhners2
05-01-2011, 12:54
I think the lady in the picture is Fontella Bass. Her hit song was "Rescue me"
Seriously, read the thread.
It's a mirror image... maybe there's something there?
And everyone knows that to battle zombies you need one ultimate weapon: holy water. Lots of it.
No Way..... :ahh:
That's not a Red Dead Redemption Zombie Nightmare thing reference is it...... :D
Grim Tuesday
06-01-2011, 00:28
If one were playing an infection based zombie game (ie, left 4 dead), I doubt holy water would help. At all.
/offtopic
Basically we're just recycling game ideas over and over again. 2 more days... :rolleyes:
Recycling, water cycle, water game?
pandamonium
06-01-2011, 15:14
Little Eva reversed picture, B side song Back on Track
There will be a track again like in Overdrive
ether the reverse image was signaling the B side or you can actually go backwards on the track this year unlike the penalties last time.
So im thinking that it is a composite game of some sort
maybe scoring tubes on a track instead of a rack
SEV33RoboMan
06-01-2011, 15:38
We of team 1559 believe that this picture is in fact of the singer Little Eva(Look it up on Google images if you don't believe me). She is known for singing the songs "The Locomotion" and "Back on Tracks". I see trains in our future!
Nice job guys try like the first 5 post and you would know 10 times more
alectronic
06-01-2011, 15:45
It's a mirror image... maybe there's something there?
please please please please please go read the beginning of the thread before you post!
I don't believe you.
CD needs a "like" button, like Facebook, haha
SEV33RoboMan
06-01-2011, 15:48
please please please please please go read the beginning of the thread before you post!
How are we gunna get over 1,000 post if we dont have people keep repeating beaten information.:confused:
alectronic
06-01-2011, 16:04
How are we gunna get over 1,000 post if we dont have people keep repeating beaten information.:confused:
Ah, this is true. Please allow me to contribute post #884.
SEV33RoboMan
06-01-2011, 16:07
Ah, this is true. Please allow me to contribute post #884.
Id like to hit post 1332 if thats ok
How are we gunna get over 1,000 post if we dont have people keep repeating beaten information.:confused:
The goal shouldn't be to get over 1000 posts. If we did hit 1000 posts and 750 of those were legitimate discussion, I wouldn't have a problem. Doing something for the sake of doing it at the risk of annoying/aggravating a significant amount of others isn't always a good idea.
SEV33RoboMan
06-01-2011, 23:24
The goal shouldn't be to get over 1000 posts. If we did hit 1000 posts and 750 of those were legitimate discussion, I wouldn't have a problem. Doing something for the sake of doing it at the risk of annoying/aggravating a significant amount of others isn't always a good idea.
First of all im being very sarcastic
second do you think i enjoy reading almost 900 post of the same beaten to death information. I agree that no that should not be the goal but with a thread that is already this long and ridiculous with new post of the same beaten and over used information, its not going anywhere anyways. I apologize if my post offended you
JaneYoung
06-01-2011, 23:41
First of all im being very sarcastic
second do you think i enjoy reading almost 900 post of the same beaten to death information. I agree that no that should not be the goal but with a thread that is already this long and ridiculous with new post of the same information its not going anywhere anyways. I apologize if that offended you
There are ways to post in ChiefDelphi that further discussions and create positive impressions. There are ways to post in ChiefDelphi that do the opposite. Each member makes a decision each time he/she elects to post in a thread. The consequences of choosing not to read through a thread (regardless of the length of it), creates opportunities for redundant, repetitious remarks and shows that a poor choice has been made.
To choose to refrain from posting remarks that hold little value or are useless, shows a respect for the forum and for the discussion. Even though this is a game hint thread, it doesn't have to be filled with useless posts that are carelessly written. If new CD members are looking for something to do, browse CD, read other current threads, and find old ones that cover topics of interest. CD has a vast store of knowledge, information, and wisdom. Add to it.
Jane
Fletch1373
07-01-2011, 00:51
There are ways to post in ChiefDelphi that further discussions and create positive impressions. There are ways to post in ChiefDelphi that do the opposite. Each member makes a decision each time he/she elects to post in a thread. The consequences of choosing not to read through a thread, regardless of the length of it, creates opportunities for redundant, repetitious remarks and shows that a poor choice has been made.
To choose to refrain from posting remarks that hold little value or are useless, shows a respect for the forum and for the discussion. Even though this is a game hint thread, it doesn't have to be filled with useless posts that are carelessly written. If new CD members are looking for something to do, browse CD, read other current threads, and find old ones that cover topics of interest. CD has a vast store of knowledge, information, and wisdom. Add to it.
Jane
very well stated Jane!
Necromonger
07-01-2011, 01:04
interesting as well.. but at the same time we had a space thing 2 years ago and we know USFirst isn't going to repeat that soon, are they? Let's all start researching that list a little more.. ::rtm::
I just had a eureka moment. The space thing 2 years ago along with the grand conjunction got me thinking.... what if it's a combination of lunacy and the tetra loading game? Especially now that the second game hint has been released (FIRST logo) I have a feeling that geometry and sorting are somehow involved. This is the best I've got so far. A game with a lunacy style floor and things you need to sort?
First of all im being very sarcastic
second do you think i enjoy reading almost 900 post of the same beaten to death information. I agree that no that should not be the goal but with a thread that is already this long and ridiculous with new post of the same beaten and over used information, its not going anywhere anyways. I apologize if my post offended you
No offense was taken. It was just hard to pick up sarcasm from your post, as is often the case with text communication (not everybody reads every word in the same tone with the same emphasis in every place). Also, as you've probably realized from reading the thread, we're being somewhat flooded with a giant wave of new users. We, the veterans, don't know anything about them, they have no established reputation, and they often have some issues getting into the groove of CD because they don't quite understand what the appropriate mindset is. Since we want them to fit in as soon and as easily as possible, correcting any possible problems in the beginning is the best way to go, and that is what I was trying to do. My apologies.
We seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot, and I'm sorry if I've offended you at all in the past few posts. Let's be friends? :o
(for the record - I've found that the best way to make sarcasm evident is the :rolleyes: emoticon, or lightly using italicized text)
LZ Ravanger
07-01-2011, 08:29
Heres what my team got.
The picture was of Little Eva.
In Wall-E, Eve is pronounced Eva.
Wall-E's job was to stack the garbage on top of each other.
That explains hint 2 of the shapes.
BOOM! We are stacking shapes on top of each other.
Christopher149
07-01-2011, 16:18
Heres what my team got.
The picture was of Little Eva.
In Wall-E, Eve is pronounced Eva.
Wall-E's job was to stack the garbage on top of each other.
That explains hint 2 of the shapes.
BOOM! We are stacking shapes on top of each other.
That is actually one of the few creative suggestions I've seen. :)
boomergeek
07-01-2011, 17:20
Heres what my team got.
The picture was of Little Eva.
In Wall-E, Eve is pronounced Eva.
Wall-E's job was to stack the garbage on top of each other.
That explains hint 2 of the shapes.
BOOM! We are stacking shapes on top of each other.
My guess is we are stacking shapes (#2 clue) on columns (#1 clue) that are on train cars(#1 clue).
This is the hint that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people start guessing not knowing what it was, and they'll continue to guess forever just because...This is the hint that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend.
I'm glad kick-off is finally here - this tune has been stuck in my head for about three days now...
(It's spelled "WALL*E")
EVA == Extra Vehicular Activity
We need a "mini-me" robot to do some "outside of the box" activity (like so many did in 2002).
Holy cow, I was right?? :eek:
Holy cow, I was right?? :eek:
In a way, so was I (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=991326&postcount=298) o.O (but you were more precise)
alectronic
09-01-2011, 15:27
In a way, so was I (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=991326&postcount=298) o.O (but you were more precise)
You got the part about the other programs, good guess!
JaneYoung
12-03-2011, 19:26
I don't know if anyone has but if you get a chance, knowing the game now, this is a fun read. Don't skip any pages though you may be tempted to, there is some good stuff.
Jane
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