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Who is going to watch the superbowl half time show just to see if Will.I.Am is going to wear the FRC 2011 hat that was given to him by Dean Kamen?
davidthefat
08-01-2011, 10:59
I'm watching the whole SuperBowl LOL
Did you realize he was very uncomfortable being there...
Chris is me
08-01-2011, 11:00
He looked as awkward as the rest of us :P
Alex2614
08-01-2011, 11:01
Well, we will be in a robotics meeting, so I doubt we will.........
viperred396
08-01-2011, 11:01
Who is going to watch the superbowl half time show just to see if Will.I.Am is going to wear the FRC 2011 hat that was given to him by Dean Kamen?
I would like him to wear it but I highly doubt he is going to
Dean said it wasn't gonna be the last time we saw Will.I.Am, so I feel he'll be in St. Louis. Possibly performing at FIRST Finale. How awesome would that be?
Superllama12
08-01-2011, 11:07
He looked as awkward as the rest of us :P
Roflkoptor, but totally true!
I was surprised, I never expected him!
indubitably
08-01-2011, 11:08
Maybe the winning team gets to go to the superbowl!
Edit: the Championshp happens after the Superbowl... :{
FlyingD662
08-01-2011, 11:16
The build season won't be over when the Superbowl is played.
Dean said it wasn't gonna be the last time we saw Will.I.Am, so I feel he'll be in St. Louis. Possibly performing at FIRST Finale. How awesome would that be?
I have a feeling that Will, along with the Black Eyed Peas will preform at the St. Louis social.
weinertj
08-01-2011, 13:34
So, who wants to make him a robot?
I will be :P
It'll be quite interesting to see, heh
BrendanB
08-01-2011, 14:38
I'm watching the whole SuperBowl LOL
Did you realize he was very uncomfortable being there...
I would be if it was my first FIRST event, but he did fine!
Commissar
08-01-2011, 14:57
I have a feeling that Will, along with the Black Eyed Peas will preform at the St. Louis social.
I agree, this should be interesting.
Ltfurman25
08-01-2011, 15:09
Imma gonna watch it..I think it will be funny lol....and i think he might have felt Intimidated...lol
MagiChau
08-01-2011, 16:17
I wonder if he would do a shout out to FIRST at the half-time show, maybe even talk about the 2011 game and how we have a mini-robot on our robot.
This question is for will.i.am... What do you think about this year's game?
It's dope.
LOL.
torihoelscher
08-01-2011, 17:14
It would be cool if he did wear the hat but unlikely, he might forget like the rest of us would too! Maybe he would perform at the FIRST Championship now that would be amazing! I love the BEP and it would be cool if he wrote a song about FIRST and how nerdy we all compared to rest of the world! Ha!
(no offense to anyone)
Tori
MagiChau
08-01-2011, 18:13
It would be cool if he did wear the hat but unlikely, he might forget like the rest of us would too!
FIRST never forgets, if he uses social media, send him messages about FIRST. Though, you know what they say if you dabble in FIRST you get sucked in.
I never watch the halftime show (I watch football for football. Not for concerts. I could do without all the bells and whistles and just get back to the game) and looking for an artist wearing a baseball cap isn't going to make me watch the halftime show.
nick_champ_2
08-01-2011, 19:02
Though I do believe he will come here (St. Louis) because they said that it will not be the last time seeing him. I do know that building him a robot will be difficult. I have a picture from when B.E.P. came to St. Louis for their concert and he had a special performance. I will post shortly!
(Edit)
Heres the picture of him!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/nickmesa2005/100_0161.jpg
They put him in an awkward situation. Seems to be he will have to, he's being pressured by young robotics kids now.
We'll see.
Who is going to watch the superbowl half time show just to see if Will.I.Am is going to wear the FRC 2011 hat that was given to him by Dean Kamen?
Oh yes totally, I want to see it anyways so my hat off to Will.Am.I if he does..
Nawaid Ladak
08-01-2011, 23:54
i'll probably be watching it because of the game that dean said their "still" playing. Not the halftime show
I wonder if he would do a shout out to FIRST at the half-time show, maybe even talk about the 2011 game and how we have a mini-robot on our robot.
highly doubt Bridgestone (sponsor of the halftime show) and the NFL would ever let him do it.
It would be cool if he did wear the hat but unlikely, he might forget like the rest of us would too! Maybe he would perform at the FIRST Championship now that would be amazing! I love the BEP and it would be cool if he wrote a song about FIRST and how nerdy we all compared to rest of the world! Ha!
(no offense to anyone)
Tori
we've seen this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mNubUTxWHw
though a Remix with the BEP's would be awesome
mcrawford
09-01-2011, 00:00
90% will.i.am is performing at st. louis and 40% he still has the hat 10% he he wears it at the superbowl and st. louis
It would be cool if he did wear the hat but unlikely, he might forget like the rest of us would too!
It won't be so much him forgetting and more his costume designer not letting it on stage...
I wonder if he would do a shout out to FIRST at the half-time show, maybe even talk about the 2011 game and how we have a mini-robot on our robot.
Unlikely, They have a job to do and unfortunately that job isn't to spread FIRST to the football masses, but hey, I've been surprised before.
I think, that we will all be treated to a special concert at champs!
Of course, the fact someone like him came on for Kick-Off is HUGE exposure for FIRST.
Plus he did alot of tweeting about it, which can never hurt!
Well FIRST just got a plug on WMUR News 9 in New Hampshire stating Will.i.am was un in NH chilling with some students for the Kick-off of their competition...... Any press is good press....
demosthenes2k8
09-01-2011, 10:17
Yep, FIRST's in the Union Leader today, and they mentioned Will.I.Am. Press is definitely good!
Erik Huang
09-01-2011, 19:39
Probably more awkward then awesome lol
-insert awkward turtle-
Honestly, I'm glad Will.i.am decided to come to the kick-off.
It was his choice alone to come. He could've skipped it, but even if how awkward it was:o , he still took out the time of his schedule to come and talk a bit and say hello.
If he wears the hat at Super Bowl, awesome! If not, that's fine. If does a concert, whoohoo! If not, ... well I admit there'll be a bit of disappointment, but it's still fine.
After all, he came to the kick-off right? Let's continue the Gracious Professionalism, and who knows, he might bring a couple friends.:)
I have my doubts about him wearing the hat. I know for sure that Joseph and I will be watching at least the halftime show to see if he does.
If he does, it will be good publicity.
On a completely unrelated note, how do you put in TBA bars in your signature? I've seen lots of them.
Thaine
WhiteShadow1474
09-01-2011, 22:54
As i read this thread, I look up and i see Will. I. Am. on the news. What is he doing? wearing the FIRST hat.
Turns out the local Massachusetts news (which is I think is the most watched news network around here) is about to show the story of why Will. I. Am. was in Manchester.
Edit: No need to worry, the word FIRST was used.
Now, the question isn't if he will or won't play at Championships, it is will it be just him or all of the Black Eyed Peas performing? Hmm.... :p
On a completely unrelated note, how do you put in TBA bars in your signature? I've seen lots of them.
Thaine
You go to thebluealliance.net, find your team, and on the right side it says "team badges", you enter the information, save the picture and upload it to your signature.
alectronic
10-01-2011, 14:25
On a completely unrelated note, how do you put in TBA bars in your signature? I've seen lots of them.
Thaine
Go to the blue alliance website, and click the "teAm badge" button. Then you can pick colors and options. You just copy and paste their cOde to the signature box on CD.
Jakedasnakeman
10-01-2011, 14:36
Roflkoptor, but totally true!
I was surprised, I never expected him!
I was very surpised also, and just for laughs and giggles for your RoflKopter
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It kinda failed :)
Thanks, uh, both of you. I didn't see that when I was on TBA.
Prelude_SH
10-01-2011, 15:41
I dont think he'll wear it. He looked uncomfortable
http://fav.me/d36wg8r
http://fav.me/d36wg8r
It has been done. Props to our very own Paul! XD... also enjoy.
O'Sancheski
13-01-2011, 20:47
This question is for will.i.am... What do you think about this year's game?
It's dope.
LOL.
One small correction... He said IZ DOPE... LOL
Whateveryousay
13-01-2011, 21:10
I highly doubt that will.i.am still has the hat, but hey, surprise me :yikes:
flyingcrayons
13-01-2011, 21:29
lol i dont think he will wear the hat, but i really hope so. it would be like the best publicizing for FIRST. plus maybe he'll wanna play at CMP's? heres hoping :D
JaneYoung
13-01-2011, 22:52
I highly doubt that will.i.am still has the hat, but hey, surprise me :yikes:
I wouldn't place any bets on that.
It's probably a new improved version of itself - autographed. :)
One thing I learned a long time ago - don't underestimate Dean, Woodie, or Dave - and their amazing influence/impact on what goes on around them.
Jane
While I've learned not to hold my breath for many things in this world, I wouldn't be stunned to hear of FIRST in conjunction with the halftime show.
vigkvagkv2
20-01-2011, 22:47
Even if he doesn't have the hat anymore, there's a chance they'll give him another if he's doing any kind of show.
Go to the blue alliance website, and click the "teAm badge" button. Then you can pick colors and options. You just copy and paste their cOde to the signature box on CD.
TBA is still down
Well, we will be in a robotics meeting, so I doubt we will.........
Hello Alex,
The fact that you will be in a robotics meeting on superbowl sunday does not portray a good image of Morganstown, West Virginia. However, I am just hoping that Will.I.AM says "it's dope" of the superbowl.
xSAWxBLADEx
30-01-2011, 20:12
TBA is still down
not anymore
I'd guess he's more likely to associate with Intel now that he's their Director of Creative Innovation (http://www.intel.com/?en_US_01&cid=cim:ggl|william_us_will|irC961|s).
BACONDUDE1902
31-01-2011, 10:34
somebody should go post something on his Twiter.
lol :D
Andrew Schreiber
31-01-2011, 10:38
Hello Alex,
The fact that you will be in a robotics meeting on superbowl sunday does not portray a good image of Morganstown, West Virginia.
Say what? I know plenty of teams that meet on Sundays what is wrong with that?
RoboDesigners
31-01-2011, 13:13
Say what? I know plenty of teams that meet on Sundays what is wrong with that?
I don't know his intent, but some people would be upset that it was Superbowl Sunday...
I think every American should be in front of their TV watching the superbowl.
Andrew Schreiber
31-01-2011, 22:25
I think every American should be in front of their TV watching the superbowl.
Well, that is just plain stupid. Why should we watch something we have 0 interest in? If we are stereotyping now I think it is disgraceful that any 1114 meetings occur while there are hockey games on (there, that way some of us have a chance ;))
Crazy Ewok
04-02-2011, 21:03
I Believe everyone should be watching the Packers beat the Steelers, just an opinion. But what does this have to do with robotics.
MagiChau
04-02-2011, 21:11
Wait? What is this superbowl you are speaking of. There are only 2 weeks left. Get building, there is no time for watching men eat cereal out of super bowls.
gyroscopeRaptor
04-02-2011, 22:15
We're going to be in front of the projector in our main room, watching and building AT THE SAME TIME.
Who says you can't have both?
Team#2057-Vegas
04-02-2011, 23:03
if he wears the hat.. i'm gonna laugh like crazy. but at the same time, i'm gonna be proud he's "reppin' the FIRST hood."
I think the real question is, Is WIll.I.Am momma actually gonna work with Dean Kamen's momma?
JaneYoung
06-02-2011, 15:18
I think the real question is, Is WIll.I.Am momma actually gonna work with Dean Kamen's momma?
No, the real question is: is will.i.am going to make a positive impact by shining a spotlight on FIRST, as hoped?
Revisting this, we know it's going to happen, with the splash page, and my bet is theres going to be some sort of Armband involved with FIRST!
Robby Unruh
06-02-2011, 15:41
The excitement and mystery of kickoff relived: the super bowl.
and what is this talk of armbands and what not? :rolleyes:
216Robochick288
06-02-2011, 17:01
Im so excited! I cant wait to see if Will.I.Am will be wearing his hat!
Andrew Zeller
06-02-2011, 17:14
I Believe everyone should be watching the Packers beat the Steelers, just an opinion. But what does this have to do with robotics.
:D :D :D :D :D I live in GB. People have just been going crazy these last two weeks. It is so exciting. I read earlier on this forum that one team will skip the Superbowl for a robotics meeting. Definitely not 1716 - we'll have our eyes glued to the TV. I really want to see will.i.am with the FIRST hat too.
MagiChau
06-02-2011, 17:38
Even better than the FIRST 2011 Logomotion hat, it would be awesome if there is a shoutout instead to STEM. People may notice the hat, but people will be aware if someone actively encourages how cool science, technology, math and engineering is. I am not watching the superbowl but I may pop in for the half-time show to catch it since my dad probably will watch.
Did you see the Lego hat?
http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2010/11/22/black-eyed-peas-lego-hat/
dragonman
06-02-2011, 18:35
I would like him to wear it but I highly doubt he is going to
I totally want him to wear it. How ever I do not feel like he honestly wants to endorse FIRST I think he is doing this for publicity. I mean FIRST is huge, and awesome.
578robotsrock
06-02-2011, 18:56
dancing robots at half time? I think so
LondonBoy29
06-02-2011, 20:10
That sucks
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:11
Wow 3 people beat me to it. It sucks.:mad:
SammyKay
06-02-2011, 20:11
Well that's not cool....
Chickenonastick
06-02-2011, 20:11
Maybe they'll make the first logo with those LED peeps
davidthefat
06-02-2011, 20:12
Uh I guess the performance is kinda robotics related? It looks like tron inspired uniform
nighterfighter
06-02-2011, 20:12
/disappointment
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:13
Maybe they'll make the first logo with those LED peeps
That would be so cool.
Steven Donow
06-02-2011, 20:13
No hat...but Slash? That's....unexpected...
SammyKay
06-02-2011, 20:13
It really is Tron inspired. It would be better if it was FIRST inspired tho....
I'm glad he's not wearing that hat because BEP suck live.
Garten Haeska
06-02-2011, 20:14
im really dissapointed now! :mad:
WhiteShadow1474
06-02-2011, 20:14
i'd prefer if slash put on one of those FIRST tophats.
nighterfighter
06-02-2011, 20:14
Well, I'm liking the GNR.
578robotsrock
06-02-2011, 20:14
time to troll will.i.am
Garten Haeska
06-02-2011, 20:15
I'm glad he's not wearing that hat because BEP suck live.
most people do suck when they are live!
Feed_n_Seed
06-02-2011, 20:16
Will.I.am is a liar! There is no hat!
It's hard to commit to something like that when everything is already preplanned by some Super Bowl committee.
Steven Donow
06-02-2011, 20:16
And...Usher too...
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:17
Usher??? Whats this???
Chickenonastick
06-02-2011, 20:17
Well it's not over yet I would assume, those LED's go in red, blue and white :cool:
Brandon_L
06-02-2011, 20:18
This performance went from torture, having to listen to them while looking for the hat, to awesome because slash was there, back to torture because slash went away and still no hat.
there goes my night
It would be cool if they made the first logo
nighterfighter
06-02-2011, 20:18
Maybe Dean Kamen will roll in on his pimped out Segway...
mandrews281
06-02-2011, 20:18
I don't remember will.i.am saying he'd wear the hat at the Superbowl. Only Dean trying to goad him into it. His head wear doesn't lend itself to the hat either. He might surprise us yet, but I doubt it.
Grim Tuesday
06-02-2011, 20:18
It would be cool if they made the first logo
They still can...
EDIT: Just heard "FIRST THINGS FIRST" its a sign...
Steven Donow
06-02-2011, 20:19
Ahhh! "FIRST thing's FIRST!"
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:20
Maybe Dean Kamen will roll in on his pimped out Segway...
Yes....
EDIT: but then he would go on for 30 minutes and people would get mad...
nighterfighter
06-02-2011, 20:21
And all those people with the boxheads will reveal the FIRST hat soon! :D
Ahhh! "FIRST thing's FIRST!"
I heard THAT!
3p1c w1n
06-02-2011, 20:21
No hat... =(
Garten Haeska
06-02-2011, 20:21
dirty bit was the best one i think
linuxboy
06-02-2011, 20:21
I'm holding out for the end. He's GOT to do something FIRST-y
BIGWILLI2081
06-02-2011, 20:22
a mini FIRST shout out..too bad we are the only ones who got it...
plnyyanks
06-02-2011, 20:23
This performance went from torture, having to listen to them while looking for the hat, to awesome because slash was there, back to torture because slash went away and still no hat.
there goes my night
i couldn't have said it better myself... they even cut short Slash's solo
And all those people with the boxheads will reveal the FIRST hat soon! :D
D'ya suppose those cube-heads are 12x12x12? :D
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:23
AND NOTHING!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Grim Tuesday
06-02-2011, 20:24
No hat, I wonder if the first things first was even anything...
nighterfighter
06-02-2011, 20:24
And it's over it seems...
/rage
Garten Haeska
06-02-2011, 20:25
that was basically Will.i.am breaking a deal with first, so those things he said at kickoff were all lies....
Frenchie461
06-02-2011, 20:28
Someone should email will.I.am a link to the last few pages of this thread to let him know how bad he screwed up
3p1c w1n
06-02-2011, 20:30
/Release the trolls
linuxboy
06-02-2011, 20:30
Ahhh! "FIRST thing's FIRST!"
My mom heard that and she doesn't listen to lyrics so it MUST have been emphasized.
Kohala2460
06-02-2011, 20:30
Bad performance, and no hat. Lame :/
Brandon_L
06-02-2011, 20:31
This is the part where we all drive our robots with lit torches bolted to the side up to his house and demand the hat back, right?
Lledargo
06-02-2011, 20:32
I must say I am surprised anyone thought Will.i.am would bring up FIRST, his job is to entertain people, and unfortunately the vast majority of those people would rather be entertained with music than with a speech about FIRST.
toastnbacon
06-02-2011, 20:33
William is dead to me. I'm not even going to respect the punctuation in his name anymore.
Hey. The whole show started with BEPs descending on poles. And four of 'em at that.
There still could be post-game or side-line interviews. not likely but possible.
Chickenonastick
06-02-2011, 20:38
So apparently there were some references to FIRST within the performance, but none that were completely noticeable to the average viewer.
MHSrobotics2853
06-02-2011, 20:39
Did anyone catch the lyrics he sang during "where is the love"? Sounded like the lyrics were different from their original song; could that have been the reference? It was just before he said "First things first".
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:39
/Release the trolls
Releases angry hordes of trolls...
Katie_UPS
06-02-2011, 20:40
Look at the bright side: FIRST has no reason to keep that hideous splash page!
MagiChau
06-02-2011, 20:41
We still got a build season to go through people. Complain about the guy when everyone packed up and leave St. Louis. This shouldn't ruin your mood.
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:41
This is the part where we all drive our robots with lit torches bolted to the side up to his house and demand the hat back, right?
Yes, but they are carrying flaming tubes in the shape of the first logo.... with red white and blue flames....
sanddrag
06-02-2011, 20:43
So wait, what is/was the splash page for? :confused:
bhweezer
06-02-2011, 20:43
Look at the bright side: FIRST has no reason to keep that hideous splash page!
Haha I completely agree.
Before everyone gets "irate":
I wasn't expecting him to bring up FIRST, especially when everything is organized by some Super Bowl committee, and there's a tight schedule everyone has to follow. He had obligations to entertain the crowd, and it would be difficult for him to do anything more than give his "First things first" shoutout.
And Dean Kamen was trying to get him to wear the hat, but at no time did will.i.am specifically agree to it. I'm pretty sure Dean was simply hoping for some free publicity by pressuring will.i.am in public.
JaneYoung
06-02-2011, 20:44
Did anyone catch the lyrics he sang during "where is the love"? Sounded like the lyrics were different from their original song; could that have been the reference? It was just before he said "First things first".
I did and I hope to listen to it again. I'd like to see how the FIRST logo scrolled across his helmet. In another thread, there is discussion about that. I didn't see it, somehow.
BIGWILLI2081
06-02-2011, 20:45
So apparently there were some references to FIRST within the performance, but none that were completely noticeable to the average viewer.
Also, apparently the FIRST logo went across his helmet
klmx30302
06-02-2011, 20:45
Look at the bright side: FIRST has no reason to keep that hideous splash page!
So hopefully it will be gone tomorrow.:)
NorviewsVeteran
06-02-2011, 20:45
Look at the bright side: FIRST has no reason to keep that hideous splash page!
Agreed, can we take it down now? Like, NOW?
Did anyone catch the lyrics he sang during "where is the love"? Sounded like the lyrics were different from their original song; could that have been the reference? It was just before he said "First things first".
This. I heard 'something something educated, something something innovators, first things FIRST'.
Who knows? I'd like to see a transcript, and perhaps a picture of the alleged FIRST logo. I was too excited about FIRST things FIRST that I must have missed it!
Edit: Here's a link of the logo 'sighting' from a friend's twitter... again, I'm not going to agree until we hear something official. http://twitpic.com/3x9t8o
Also, could you PLEASE stop raging/trolling/whatever it is angry people do on the internet? He never promised he was going to say anything. It was just an idea and a hope.
Isaac501
06-02-2011, 20:47
Um... The logo was scrolling across his helmet every few seconds.
I can't believe no one here saw it..
For paying nothing I think FIRST got some pretty darn good advertising.
For everyone complaining, will.i.am fit pretty much as much FIRST related stuff into that preformance as he could without disrupting the flow of the show or turning it into an advertisment. I commend him in his effort.
Anyone notice that he LOV with no E
You need three lines to turn LOV into a triangle and a square
kbohinski
06-02-2011, 20:52
So I guess FIRST is not "dope" enough for Will.i.am to wear his hat like he said he would. I did not see or hear any promotion.
artbot345
06-02-2011, 20:54
I don't think this fits the topic but look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will.i.am#Other
BIGWILLI2081
06-02-2011, 20:56
although i'm disappointed he didn't wear the hat, it's not like people would've noticed what the hat said/meant. i think he did his best to give FIRST a shout out.
1168Programmer
06-02-2011, 20:59
Actually, I think he did as much of a subtle shout out as he could.
halftime show (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=91112)
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 20:59
I am appalled by the behavior of the FIRST people on this thread. Everyone is putting down someone for not making a pitch for us. We are supposed to making our own pitches, not relying on someone famous to make them for us. Think before you post please!!!
As for the references to FIRST, someone mentioned the logo scrolling on his helmet. I have DVR and went back to the performance and watched closely. Right after the performance of "Where Is The Love?", Will.I.Am started singing "I had the time of my life..." and I saw, what looked like anyways, an interlocking white circle and blue square. I can't confirm if that is what was really there, but I ran it through 3 times and that is just what I saw. As for any other references, besides the changed lyrics and saying "First things first", I think were coincidences.
I am appalled by the behavior of the FIRST people on this thread. Everyone is putting down someone for not making a pitch for us. We are supposed to making our own pitches, not relying on someone famous to make them for us. Think before you post please!!!
THIS THIS THIS.
Where is everyone's graciousness?
Please note that there was no guarantee. will.i.am did what he could to help us out. If anything, it feels cool to me just to know that he was thinking of us.
JaneYoung
06-02-2011, 21:01
So I guess FIRST is not "dope" enough for Will.i.am to wear his hat like he said he would. I did not see or hear any promotion.
You need to listen to the lyrics to Where Is The Love as they were sung during the halftime performance. They were modified to talk about education, innovators and FIRST things FIRST.
If anyone were to notice and ask him about that, it would be the perfect time for him to talk about STEM and about FIRST. Black-Eyed Peas planted some seeds. The opportunity was presented.
Jane
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 21:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EeFdZFmTa0
at 0.44 seconds, you might see a complete logo on his head
Ryan Dognaux
06-02-2011, 21:05
I thought that was a really cool shout out to the FIRST community. It was about as obvious as you can get for it being done during the Super Bowl halftime show.
Who cares that he didn't wear the hat? They aren't exactly the most stylish things.
People in this thread........
U MAD?
I must say I am surprised anyone thought Will.i.am would bring up FIRST, his job is to entertain people, and unfortunately the vast majority of those people would rather be entertained with music than with a speech about FIRST.
I agree - Don't get caught up in feeling like Will.I.Am or the Peas are worth this much expectation or disappointment.
No big whup - either way.
For example - I attended the U of Ky alongside an NCAA Championship Basketball Championship team. I walked past their private dorm every day on my way to and from Anderson Hall. I noticed that so, so many people across the campus state and the country let themselves think their fortunes rose and fell with the suceesses and failures of that collection of "students" who could bounce and throw a ball well. Those folks even bought into the ridiculous notion that somehow the team was "their" team.
But did the state get excited about the College of Engineering that really did/does belong to the state taxpayers? Did anyone suggest a pep rally before Finals week? Did anyone notice that the health of the state's industrial base and economy could be strengthened more by engineers and scientists than by basketballs? Did anyone suggest that it would be nice to put our 30 smartest students into a nicely appointed private dorm, give them tutors, etc?
Well, in a word "No".
I personally alteranate between being amused and tired by hearing about what Willie might or might not do. I DO look forward to hearing more about what he does; but I grow a bit tired of breathless speculation about what he might do, and I am really perplexed at the level of disappointment when some of the guesses are wrong.
I admit it's been amusing to watch folks spin up and down, but I think I'll go back to taking care of the business in front of me. I'm sure Ms/Mrs Kamen and Will.I.Am will let me know when it's time to help them get something done.
Ask yourself where your path to success lies, and what you intend to celebrate as you work to change the culture. Ask yourself who is cheering for you. Give them your attention.
Blake
PS: I'm glad Will.I.Am has committed to support FIRST; and, I'm not immune to the glamour of his sort of celebrity. But - I have a job to do and while I am glad for his help; I'm certainly not waiting for him to do that job for me.
Here are the lyrics to Where Is The Love?
http://www.bing.com/music/lyrics/detail?q=The+Black+Eyed+Peas+Where+Is+The+Love%3f&songID=51911B00-0100-11DB-89CA-0019B92A3933&lyricsID=T++6359344&albumID=37911B00-0100-11DB-89CA-0019B92A3933&pc=LRFD&FORM=DTPMUL
I am disappointed, not that will.i.am didn’t wear the FIRST hat, but the lack of Gracious Professionalism shown on Chiefdelphi.
I think for me, I knew he wasn't going to wear the hat.
However, the splash page made me think that there might be more. The fact First desgined that page to be ment for High Trafic without crashing the rest of the site prepared me for something big, and well instead we got the subtle hints.
Thanks to will.I.am still for pretty much making the show about FIRST, and still honhoring his contracts!
Here are the lyrics to Where Is The Love?
http://www.bing.com/music/lyrics/detail?q=The+Black+Eyed+Peas+Where+Is+The+Love%3f&songID=51911B00-0100-11DB-89CA-0019B92A3933&lyricsID=T++6359344&albumID=37911B00-0100-11DB-89CA-0019B92A3933&pc=LRFD&FORM=DTPMUL
I am disappointed, not that will.i.am didn’t wear the FIRST hat, but the lack of Gracious Professionalism shown on Chiefdelphi.
Those are not the words he used though... there was a definite change.
I agree with you about poor behavior. I'm very glad he DIDN'T mention FIRST by name now, because all visitors would see if they looked deep enough into the FIRST culture would be this horrible pool of negativity. Where's our Gracious Professionalism, guys?
Andrew0089
06-02-2011, 21:15
No he wore the logo still! better than nothing! =Dhttp://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs287.snc6/181498_1693302744128_1584592745_1552107_673498_n.j pg
s_forbes
06-02-2011, 21:15
This. I heard 'something something educated, something something innovators, first things FIRST'.
Who knows? I'd like to see a transcript, and perhaps a picture of the alleged FIRST logo. I was too excited about FIRST things FIRST that I must have missed it!
You can hear it again around 6:00 here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfKVefQ6q6E) (though will soon be removed most likely). From what I gathered:
"In America we need to get things straight
Obama lets get these kids educated
create jobs so the country stays stimulated
This is dedicated to all the innovators"
If you actually look at the picture, doesnt it kinda look like he is wearing the hat underneath that top piece? he wore the hat to that side at kickoff and it loks to hhave tongue coming out on the side with the "logo" like the hat Dean gave him did.
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 21:18
Black Eyed Peas new song: "Where Is the GP?" :) instead of red question marks on a black background, its the FIRST logo.
Just sayin', I love everyone in FIRST, but sometimes our evil thoughts hijack our fingers (sometimes mouths) and we say things we regret. Everyone does it, so we must train ourselves to overlook the bad and walk by without a non-constructive comment. As if our grandmothers were watching ;)
Andrew0089
06-02-2011, 21:18
Ya! it almost looks lik ein the video they ere soft LED's under is cap.
I think I remember that during kickoff it was said that FIRST was one of the best kept secrets of the world. Look at FIRST, how big it is, and how unknown to the masses it is. I think that Will.i.am. did what he could do, and he really didn't have much of a say in it all. And if FIRST was well known, would it be like this? I don't think that the world will end just because Will.i.am. didn't mention FIRST. I think we should get back to building robots, not trying to analyze a halftime show.
-Tom
maltz1881
06-02-2011, 21:22
I am appalled by the behavior of the FIRST people on this thread. Everyone is putting down someone for not making a pitch for us. We are supposed to making our own pitches, not relying on someone famous to make them for us. Think before you post please!!!
As for the references to FIRST, someone mentioned the logo scrolling on his helmet. I have DVR and went back to the performance and watched closely. Right after the performance of "Where Is The Love?", Will.I.Am started singing "I had the time of my life..." and I saw, what looked like anyways, an interlocking white circle and blue square. I can't confirm if that is what was really there, but I ran it through 3 times and that is just what I saw. As for any other references, besides the changed lyrics and saying "First things first", I think were coincidences.
Agreed!! I think he did his best to mention a few things like FIRST is first. I didn't see the logo flash and I have a very large screen and was sitting in front. I doubt FIRST is paying him for anything.
No he wore the logo still! better than nothing! =Dhttp://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs287.snc6/181498_1693302744128_1584592745_1552107_673498_n.j pg
I've poured through a bunch of videos, and it looks like it's just a reflection from all of the lighting. But I could be wrong.
In any case, I wasn't expecting much. He did the most he could without interrupting the halftime show.
Ya, three color flashes that are red, white, and blue that just happen to form pretty much the FIRST logo just HAPPEN to go across the head of the member of the BEP that came to kickoff at the exact same time?
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs036.snc6/166603_1864272372471_1410860038_2183448_4712729_n. jpg
Took this on my phone, quality is not that great :\
There were actually a few times he pointed to his hat, and I recall him telling us to "check it out" while putting his hand on the head piece. I thought that was pretty cool :)
3p1c w1n
06-02-2011, 21:27
No he wore the logo still! better than nothing! =Dhttp://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs287.snc6/181498_1693302744128_1584592745_1552107_673498_n.j pg
I totally missed that! That's epic!
/Call off trolls
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3043/william2g.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3043/william2g.jpg)
Click for full size.
Looks pretty definitive to me.
Mrs.Drake343
06-02-2011, 21:29
He did do Dean's homework...Mention FIRST in everything that you can!! I caught that and thought it was awesome!!!:D
JaneYoung
06-02-2011, 21:32
If you think about it, he kicked it up a notch, using technology.
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 21:34
Well, moving away from the Half-Time Show, who is everyone cheering for? Packers I hope ;)
Kyoshirin
06-02-2011, 21:37
Well, moving away from the Half-Time Show, who is everyone cheering for? Packers I hope ;)
The Blue Alliance, of course! ;)
whackedwatchdog
06-02-2011, 21:39
I must say, when I watched it through on the first try, I only heard the "FIRST things FIRST" comment, but upon looking back through it (and seeing some of the pictures people have shown), I think it's clear that Will.I.Am did everything that could be expected (and more). A straight shout-out would have seemed a little bit awkward given the venue-- but to make subtle references, things that open up future conversations about it-- that's what he did for us. We might not hear anything about it today, but I can almost guarantee you that within the next week, there will be something noticeable mentioned about FIRST, probably through some interview or other.
MagiChau
06-02-2011, 21:41
That definitely resembles the FIRST logo game pieces. I give props to the person who designed that hat.
Ryan Dognaux
06-02-2011, 21:42
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_SYGXV0T7a_I/TU9boARFIvI/AAAAAAAAKWA/U2eq6z_uE24/s640/y%20u%20no%20pic.png.jpg
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 21:42
The Blue Alliance, of course! ;)
Haha, so NFC?? :D
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_SYGXV0T7a_I/TU9boARFIvI/AAAAAAAAKWA/U2eq6z_uE24/s640/y%20u%20no%20pic.png.jpg
Oh my god. You win.
BrendanB
06-02-2011, 21:46
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_SYGXV0T7a_I/TU9boARFIvI/AAAAAAAAKWA/U2eq6z_uE24/s640/y%20u%20no%20pic.png.jpg
You should have said, "chiefd delphi, y u all so dope?"
Joe Matt
06-02-2011, 21:52
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
Even if it's not adopted by mainstream - I think it's pretty darn cool that he was thinking of us.
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
What can he do? He can't outright say FIRST Robotics Competition, that would be product placement and would be sued. He did as much as he could. I am not a fan of the Black Eye'd Peas but Will.I.Am did as much as he could.
wilsonmw04
06-02-2011, 22:04
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
What were you expecting, Dean to come on stage in a Segway? We got it. We got a whole verse in a song. It is up to us to take it further. We can't sit back and expect someone else to blow our own horn. You can continue to complain that it "wasn't enough" or you can do something about it.
what other NPO was even hinted at during half time?
J-Blondie
06-02-2011, 22:06
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
Getting any celebrity to notice us is not the goal of FIRST.
To say "is this the best FIRST can do?", well no it isn't. The best thing that FIRST DOES is lead kids into lives that will help themselves, their countries and the world as a whole. FIRST is one of the best things out there for anyone, young or old, to get involved in. We are here because we believe that we can change things and that we can make this world better for the coming generations. We don't need any celebrities to make pitches for us, pitches that would get drowned out by whatever fame the people have. Look at how much we have spread over the years! Only we can change who pays attention to us and who doesn't.
whackedwatchdog
06-02-2011, 22:14
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
I find it depressing that people who appear to be somewhat influential members of the community are acting this way. What were you expecting? You make it sound like the man made a choice to slap Dean Kamen in the face, as apposed to doing the best he could to work something into a very touchy situation. I would encourage you to take a look back at the spirit of FIRST, in particular the "Gracious" and "Professionalism" parts. Attacking a band, person, or entity for any reason whatsoever doesn't fit under either of those terms. Ever.
JohnFogarty
06-02-2011, 22:19
The FIRST facebook page just posted that picture. It's real.
viperred396
06-02-2011, 22:25
The FIRST facebook page just posted that picture. It's real.
Link?
will.i.am, in one of the worst live performances, during the largest sporting event in America.
If this is the best FIRST can do it's in need of some big help.
And that's assuming people can look into his helmet or whatever and actually see anything, or understand the generic lyrics and actually find the reference to FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION. (Pro-tip: the word first is used for many things.) Can we also remember this is the man who appeared in "hologram" on CNN on election night.
I mean really guys, I come back to find CD defending the Black Eye Peas. REALLY?
Honestly, I think the subtle reference was the best we could have hoped for. No one is going to suddenly look up FRC now after seeing the halftime show. But it is not will.I.am's job to tell people about FIRST. That's our job. What he did is give us a talking point. He knew we would see the references while the general public would not. That's an opportunity! Now what's the first thing you'll say when you're telling someone about FIRST? "Remember the superbowl halftime show? Did you notice that those lyrics were a bit different? Guess what he was referring to?" This will work for anyone who watched the superbowl, and once they realize there was indeed a reference, they will undoubtedly be impressed.
Also, the FRC logo on the helmet was clearly will.I.am's best possible effort to fulfill Dean's request to wear the hat without ruining the costume. I'm shocked that people are criticizing him for breaking a promise when he (1) never actually promised anything and (2) attempted to fulfill it anyway.
Making FIRST mainstream will take a lot more time and effort than a simple celebrity endorsement. The fact that we even got a reference in the superbowl is amazing. Now let's get back to work...
goldenglove002
06-02-2011, 22:26
Link?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/First-Robotics-For-Inspiration-and-Recognition-of-Science-and-Technology/184063051616518?v=wall
BrendanB
06-02-2011, 22:29
This production has been in the works for several months at least! The actors, stage, songs, and the like were not decided in the past two weeks! I'm sure will.i.am did what he could and the result was what we saw and it was more than he needed to do! Dean gave him the hat hoping he would wear it, he never said he would wear it nor was he required.
Could you imagine all the agents and producers with all of these artists who would have had major problems is he turned it into a FIRST sideshow?
whackedwatchdog
06-02-2011, 22:29
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=44763&id=184063051616518 Will take you to the two pictures of it, http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs780.ash1/167084_188288277860662_184063051616518_534871_7976 700_n.jpg is the clearer one, and http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs285.snc6/181314_188289381193885_184063051616518_534872_2288 102_n.jpg is the slightly granier of the two.
Edit: Beaten to it!
JaneYoung
06-02-2011, 22:29
Getting any celebrity to notice us is not the goal of FIRST. That's a pretty broad statement. Go back and review Dean's comments during Kick Off and apply that statement to the concept of having members of the entertainment industry shine a spotlight on FIRST. In my opinion, if the spotlight is handled with care and wisdom, it can be helpful. If it is handled carelessly, then FIRST will contend with the results.
Think about how often we note having seen Dean Kamen on TV or read articles about Dean Kamen and/or his inventions. Many of us pay attention to what's going on in the space program because of the connection that Dave Lavery has to it. We celebrate the years that the Mars rovers have been on Mars and we look forward to new explorations and challenges. Look at the difference that teams are making. For example, The New Cool is a book that I'm really looking forward to reading.
We have to keep our focus while continuing to develop the programs in FIRST and in STEM initiatives but it doesn't mean we should isolate ourselves while doing so. As the programs continue to grow and develop, there needs to be a mindfulness about how to do so in ways that spotlight the best we have to offer. And, of course, even as we tend to argue, disagree, criticize, critique, and analyze, we can always be gracious. That doesn't take rocket science.
Jane
XaulZan11
06-02-2011, 22:39
I'm not surprised at all that he didn't mention FIRST. In the grand sceme of things, we are very very very small. Hopefully one day it will change, but we aren't there yet. I find it a little silly that people are actually upset Will.i.am didn't blatently call out FIRST.
I actually don't think his hat shows the FIRST logo. I've seen the pictures and just don't think it is. I think us FIRSTers are looking for what we want to see. I watched and listened to the halftime show along with my friends, who have heard of FIRST from me talking about it, but none of us picked up anything FIRST. If people who know about FIRST didn't pick up the references/logo, there is no way the typically person did.
I'm not surprised at all that he didn't mention FIRST. In the grand sceme of things, we are very very very small. Hopefully one day it will change, but we aren't there yet. I find it a little silly that people are actually upset Will.i.am didn't blatently call out FIRST.
I actually don't think his hat shows the FIRST logo. I've seen the pictures and just don't think it is. I think us FIRSTers are looking for what we want to see. I watched and listened to the halftime show along with my friends, who have heard of FIRST from me talking about it, but none of us picked up anything FIRST. If people who know about FIRST didn't pick up the references/logo, there is no way the typically person did.
Actually, FIRST staff has confirmed that it's a FIRST logo.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/First-Robotics-For-Inspiration-and-Recognition-of-Science-and-Technology/184063051616518#!/pages/First-Robotics-For-Inspiration-and-Recognition-of-Science-and-Technology/184063051616518
XaulZan11
06-02-2011, 22:48
Actually, FIRST staff has confirmed that it's a FIRST logo.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/First-Robotics-For-Inspiration-and-Recognition-of-Science-and-Technology/184063051616518#!/pages/First-Robotics-For-Inspiration-and-Recognition-of-Science-and-Technology/184063051616518
So FIRST recieved confirmation from Will.i.am that it is the logo or is the FIRST staff just thinking it is the FIRST logo?
If he DID wear the FIRST logo and/or give a shout out via his lyrics, that's pretty cool.
If he didn't, I'm not quite getting what the big deal is.
I'm too busy thinking about ways that MY team can spread the word of FIRST than waiting for someone else to do it, I guess.
Besides...two weeks ( :yikes: ) til ship doesn't leave much time for worrying about such things!!
Additionally he never made a promise, people just made false assumptions and held him to it.
It is done and over with, it is best to move on rather than dwell in the past.
Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm actually glad that they didn't get up there and make a blatant "FIRST is cool, go check it out" statement. Why? Because more likely than not, it would have backfired. The purpose of the half-time show, and in fact the entire Superbowl, is entertainment. Entertainment is what people expect, and the masses would have been dissappointed in anything less, or more, than that. Anything more than entertainment, in the direction that some of you seem to have expected, would have been interpreted as little less than outright product placement. And the fact that we are a fan of the product being placed, or the fact that it's a genuinely good product, doesn't make the action any better...would you have said "oh wow, this is really great!" if he had made a shout-out to Pepsi, or Bridgestone, or any of the products being advertised throughout the game?
I realize that there's a difference between FIRST and a soft drink. But people who do not know about FIRST, do not know this. I guarantee, if he had made a blatant shout-out, the reaction of the masses would have been "Oh wow, Will.I.Am has totally sold out, lets see what dumb organization paid him off." Not the kind of publicity you want.
In this case, subtle is good. This isn't going to change the culture overnight, and it would be unreasonable to expect the superbowl halftime show to do that. Most people won't have noticed a thing. But the few that might have will be curious. Maybe there'll be an interview, news story, or something that'll get a bit more publicity. It won't be revolutionary. But it won't be terrible either.
And besides, the real sign that FIRST is changing the culture is not what Will.I.Am puts on his hats. Its the people who sat around their computers at kickoff, listened to Will.I.Am get introduced, and said things like "Who?" and "Aw, I wanted to hear Dean Kamen speak."
Everyone just remember, we're not a big community, and that's not going to change overnight. But to change it eventually, we have to hang together, and embody the ideals that we work to spread.
.02
I suppose I can see some blurry Red, White and Blue splotches in the pictures folks have posted - But I think I have seen clearer pictures of Big Foot. ;)
I look forward to some confirmation (web site articles, tweets, facebook updates) from the artists - That would be pretty interesting.
Please remember that non-FIRST folks (like the entire rest of my family) might not have detected anything noteworthy (about FIRST/STEM/Robotics) at all during the performance.
Anyone (who isn't a Black-Eyed Pea) needs to tread lightly when/if trying to create some buzz using tonight's performance.
Blake
alectronic
06-02-2011, 22:58
I got a pretty good screen shot of it from the show!
Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm actually glad that they didn't get up there and make a blatant "FIRST is cool, go check it out" statement. Why? Because more likely than not, it would have backfired. The purpose of the half-time show, and in fact the entire Superbowl, is entertainment. Entertainment is what people expect, and the masses would have been dissappointed in anything less, or more, than that. Anything more than entertainment, in the direction that some of you seem to have expected, would have been interpreted as little less than outright product placement.
You are very right, it would more likely than not create a preconceived notion that FIRST is some organization that buys out celebrities to promote them, probably not the best image for FIRST in my mind.
I personally wasn't expecting anything blatant. I was expecting a subtle mention if anything because I am sure the NFL, like the consumers, wouldn't appreciate a shameless plug for another organization, that often butts heads with sports on a team level, in the middle of their most prestigious program.
Andrew Schreiber
06-02-2011, 23:03
It is done and over with, it is best to move on rather than dwell in the past.
Final question on this topic: Why do we give a care if some "artist" wants to wear a hat that no one would know anything about during some performance of a sport only watched in one country. Why do we care about recognition from someone who doesn't seem to care enough to not use drug slang as an adjective when talking to high schoolers? Doesn't seem like a good role model.
Maybe I'm just irked that our president took a back seat to this guy. Maybe I'm just not "dope". Heck, maybe I'm just plain out un-hip. I think there are much better advocates out there. I'm sure there are dozens of athletes who would endorse FIRST. Dozens who can communicate effectively and know the value of teamwork and putting in effort.
You want publicity in the Super Bowl? Buy an ad. Don't get mad when people won't do things for you for free.
Lil' Lavery
06-02-2011, 23:05
Why on Earth does anyone care about this either way?
It's pretty absurd and childish to assume that Wil.I.am is obligated to push FIRST in the middle of a multi million dollar production given the Pandora's Box he would open doing so blatantly.
What's to stop some other organization like PETA or Scientology or some large corporation that wants to have some star wearing their logo onstage to hawk their product to the masses while millions are watching? He did fine for what he was able to do. Now can we simply tell him thank you, leave him alone and get back to building robots?
Now can we simply tell him thank you, leave him alone and get back to building robots?
Thank you, Ed.
rcmolloy
06-02-2011, 23:27
Why on Earth does anyone care about this either way?
For some, this is awesome to know that recognition was "possibly" established about something that they care about while millions of people viewed the performance.
Personally, I thought that the attempt was great and important for us that knew about it. It kind of gave us a prelude as to what should come in the near future.
We care because this is a part of our lives that has allowed us to grow and become better than anything we could have ever imagined. That recognition has showed us the light for the years ahead for FIRST.
Lil' Lavery
06-02-2011, 23:29
It's pretty absurd and childish to assume that Wil.I.am is obligated to push FIRST in the middle of a multi million dollar production given the Pandora's Box he would open doing so blatantly.
What's to stop some other organization like PETA or Scientology or some large corporation that wants to have some star wearing their logo onstage to hawk their product to the masses while millions are watching? He did fine for what he was able to do. Now can we simply tell him thank you, leave him alone and get back to building robots?
I agree with your general point 100%.
But just to be fair about the specifics, FIRST isn't being investigated for human trafficking (http://gawker.com/5753356/the-fbi-is-investigating-scientology-for-human-trafficking), running animal shelters with the highest rate of killing animals (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/), or funding terrorism. (http://www.animalscam.com/references/peta_elf1.cfm)
karebear95
06-02-2011, 23:37
Hey guys,
I know there is a lot of discussion going around about Will.I.Am and his FIRST hat. Although he did not wear the hat Dean Kamen provided him with, Will.I.Am sent out a message about the standards of education. Personally, I think it is fantastic that he changed up the song just for that message. He set the stage for FIRST. It is our job as members of FIRST to go out and spread the message. We're the ones trying to inspire other youth of our generation to join in on such a fantastic program. We are helping to foster a generation full of youth who are willing to put aside the "nerd" stereotype and work towards a greater tomorrow. Now, with this being said, I think we owe a lot of thanks to Will.I.Am for his message.:)
Lil' Lavery
06-02-2011, 23:37
For some, this is awesome to know that recognition was "possibly" established about something that they care about while millions of people viewed the performance.
Personally, I thought that the attempt was great and important for us that knew about it. It kind of gave us a prelude as to what should come in the near future.
We care because this is a part of our lives that has allowed us to grow and become better than anything we could have ever imagined. That recognition has showed us the light for the years ahead for FIRST.
Getting recognition from the very entertainment obsession that FIRST is trying to replace shouldn't be anyone's real goal. As a tool to help grow FIRST or a cool bonus, sure. But getting upset at the fact that it wasn't as grand or direct as you had hoped is ridiculous.
If you think this is the light for the years ahead, you're fooling yourself. This (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/1u/ObamaandFIRST_470.jpg) is the light ahead and is far more important than anything will.i.am can do for the program.
JABianchi
06-02-2011, 23:39
"In America we need to get things straight
Obama lets get these kids educated
create jobs so the country stays stimulated
This is dedicated to all the innovators"
Will.I.Am changed the verse of his mainstream breakthrough song, "Where is the Love?" to talk about
1. the importance of Education,
2. which lead to good jobs in our economy
3. which are fueled by "Innovators"
THIS is what FIRST is about! More so than Logos and hats and cute acroynms ("First things First"). As Dean likes to tell us, FIRST isn't about building FRC robots, it's about building innovators.
Hats off to a (generally) positive artist who is willing to publicly praise our country's innovators during a celebration of athleticism...
ps. Compare his original lines to what he rapped during the halftime show:
Original:
"Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK..."
Revised:
"In America we need to get things straight
Obama lets get these kids educated
create jobs so the country stays stimulated
This is dedicated to all the innovators"
rcmolloy
06-02-2011, 23:40
If you think this is the light for the years ahead, you're fooling yourself. This (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/1u/ObamaandFIRST_470.jpg) is the light ahead and is far more important than anything will.i.am can do for the program.
Absolutely! The "light" reference was simply referring to people in the media catching on.
I think he did a great job. It would have been really awkward if they did anything besides sing. Did you want them to do a "go to usfirst.org" logo with the people dancing? That would also have been a total sellout move. He doesnt have full control of the whole show, just having it on his hat is a good gesture. I think the changing of lyrics is much more important overall, that was awesome.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.
blackiceskier
06-02-2011, 23:55
Absolutely! The "light" reference was simply referring to people in the media catching on.
While the lights were just a stretch did any one notice their entrance they descended on the 4 towers that are on this years field. That really was a shout out to the FIRST community without saying anything.
Kevin Kolodziej
06-02-2011, 23:58
Blurry reflections and a general comment about the state of the country IS NOT in any way a plug or endorsement for FIRST. :eek:
The lyrics ARE a message that WE as the FIRST COMMUNITY can stand behind though. Whether or not Dean had any influence on him to use these words or not is anyone's guess, but I highly doubt it. He didn't speak at kickoff because he saw a FIRST robot and had an epiphany but because he saw a program that agrees with his own beliefs about what is important. Believe it or not, FIRST is not the only organization that promotes STEM education.
What some entertainer does or says isn't going to teach a student how to use a screwdriver, design a gearbox, code a subroutine, or wire a circuit. WE can and WE will. Stop arguing about this and GO DO IT.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.
Alright alright, I guess it's not the logo.
Hey, what did you expect from the same people who try to decode the game hints? :p
I still wonder if "first things first" had anything to do with FIRST, though. Especially coming right after the sentence, "this is dedicated to the innovators." Perhaps we'll never know.
waitwhat?
07-02-2011, 01:25
I'm not sure, perhaps some of you have already stated this but I personally think that when Dean was hinting at the Black Eyed Peas and what they might bring up in the super bowl half time show, he was necessarily saying that there was going to be a direct plug to F.I.R.S.T. Rather an attempt to bring to light what the program is all about. I think that the change in lyrics did that, telling the world population that we need to work towards a brighter tomorrow.
As far as the "first things first" part, I think that could have gone either way, maybe that was just a catch phrase that Will.I.Am wanted to use, bringing attention to what our true priorities should be, OR, it could have been a clever way of putting a shout out to the FIRST community. Either way, I think that the right message was put out there.
Just my 2 cents
Justin Montois
07-02-2011, 06:09
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV"...
Alright alright, I guess it's not the logo....
Can you find me a picture of the Super Bowl XLV logo in Red,White and Blue?
Oh, and it's written with the "L" cutting through both the "X" and the "V"?
As skeptical as I was, i'm sure it was indeed the logo. I mean come on.. http://tinyurl.com/6fjt3am
I think it's cool that it was there, and I agree with whats been said, i'm happy it wasn't a blatant endorsement.
MagiChau
07-02-2011, 06:24
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.
No matter how much I look at the pictures, that is definitely a white circle, which is not an L.
demosthenes2k8
07-02-2011, 08:46
I don't know, personally I think that people were already biased toward thinking that it would be/wouldn't be the logo, so they're making themselves believe that it was/wasn't.
That said, it doesn't seem like the logo to me. Too long and angled.
thefro526
07-02-2011, 08:52
I watched the Super Bowl just to see the half time show. I didn't see the FIRST logo, and the pictures I have seen of it aren't the greatest. Yes, there are red, white and blue shapes on Will.I.Am's helmet - but they don't look like the FIRST logo to me, and if they don't look like the logo to someone who knows what they are looking for, then they sure won't look like the logo to some random person.
I did like how he re-wrote the lyrics to "where is the love" to talk about innovation and education, but it seemed more directed to Obama and his State of the Union speech.
People need to realize that dedicating 4-6 lines of song lyrics to what FIRST stands for means a whole lot more, and does a whole lot more for FIRST than him wearing a logo which nobody knows what it stands for.
Saying that people need to be educated and innovators will lead the way is a more powerful message than a triangle, circle, and square.
Brandon Holley
07-02-2011, 09:01
I watched the Super Bowl just to see the half time show. I didn't see the FIRST logo, and the pictures I have seen of it aren't the greatest. Yes, there are red, white and blue shapes on Will.I.Am's helmet - but they don't look like the FIRST logo to me, and if they don't look like the logo to someone who knows what they are looking for, then they sure won't look like the logo to some random person.
I did like how he re-wrote the lyrics to "where is the love" to talk about innovation and education, but it seemed more directed to Obama and his State of the Union speech.
I am certain the intention of the logo on the helmet wasn't for the average viewer to see it and then go research "what it means". I'm willing to bet Will.I.Am simply did that as a subtle shoutout to all of the FIRSTers who watched kickoff. It's nothing more than a tip of the cap to FIRST and an "inside joke".
The real message was the lyric change, which was nice. This wasn't designed to change the world or bring FIRST into every living room, it was simply a small spin on a mainstream act to get part of a message out.
Either way, thanks to Will.I.Am for doing it, and let's all move on.
-Brando
Goofee691
07-02-2011, 09:33
I have to commend Will.i.am for doing what he did do, he went beyond FIRST as a robotics competition and instead left a message to the world about innovating and changing the world and he included FIRST in a subtle way.
From what I can tell his helmet did show the FIRST logo every so often and I find that cool as he used some nice technology to do that with the helmet.
here are some screenshots from the 1080i stream of the superbowl
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l308/goofee691/will%20i%20am%20FIRST/
I think anyone who has been hating on him and this performance should apologize or it makes us look bad as a community and counteract what will.i.am did do.
while it would have been nice if he had used the hat dean gave him I think this is actually better based on his outfit
Nick Lawrence
07-02-2011, 10:51
will.i.am did his best to fit us into an insanely tight schedule.
I think he did a wonderful job.
People, think carefully before you post.
We can find every single little detail in a game hint photo, but many of us missed the FIRST logo scrolling across his helmet every few seconds. Isn't that funny.
-Nick
So, who wants to make him a robot?
maybe it can sing better then him!
maybe it can sing better then him!
Dont you mean Fergie :rolleyes:
Gary Dillard
07-02-2011, 11:54
My favorite part was when Brandon came up from the stage and played Sweet Child O' Mine.
tdramble
07-02-2011, 12:02
First of all, I don't care whether or not will.i.am wore something FIRST related on tv or not, he is not obligated to. I was happy to hear his lyric change, not that he did it for FIRST, but I feel it shows some of will.i.am's beliefs do in fact align with those of FIRST and the partnership/relationship between will.i.am and FIRST might be genuine and not superficial like some may have originally thought from the kickoff.
I definitely doubted the initial pictures claiming to be the FIRST logo on his helmet, but I wan't looking at it properly, it isn't the entire logo, only the top of it. I am absolutely convinced that we are seeing the FIRST logo in this picture, but I am not convinced the photo is genuine, I sure hope the first logo was not added in by someone with sick photoshop skills. I have photoshopped my own picture showing the FIRST logo superimposed onto the will.i.am photo so you can see where the logo is exactly as I am sure skeptics just can't see it. As I said, I did not see it for the longest time and thought people were crazy for thinking they saw it.
I can't believe I wasted time photoshopping that photo, now let's move on and build some robots and forget about will.i.am
http://coffman.dublin.k12.oh.us/moodle/will.i.am%20-%20first%20logo.jpg
Dargel1625
07-02-2011, 14:01
Given the circumstances, I think he gave a great shout out to first with shouting "FIRST things FIRST" and changing the lyrics of where is the love and having the logo scrolling on the side of his head. For all of those who actually expected him to wear the hat, he couldn't anyway because performers at the halftime show aren't even allowed to wear any articles of clothing that promote anything besides themselves. The halftime show committee doesn't want it to be free advertising for someone, so he really had no option to wear the hat.
Lledargo
07-02-2011, 16:17
I find it kind of funny, as I read this thread the lyrics, "you're so vain, you probably think this song is about you.", are running through my head.
It seems slightly possible he may have had a FIRST logo on his helmet. I however highly doubt the lyric change was made for FIRST. Instead it was probably addressed to Obama and the government, seeing as how the lyric change mentions Obama, not FIRST.
Will I am also had a job to entertain people, which he fulfilled by singing and dancing. He should not have felt at all obligated to mention FIRST, as it is our job to advertise ourselves.
JohnFogarty
07-02-2011, 18:13
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l308/goofee691/will%20i%20am%20FIRST/vlcsnap-2011-02-07-08h43m39s140.jpg
It's Real. CALM DOWN.
Hmm that actually is pretty convincing! I'm still skeptical though. Can somebody please post this in Q&A? Maybe we'll find out for sure in the next team update :rolleyes:
Hmm that actually is pretty convincing! I'm still skeptical though. Can somebody please post this in Q&A? Maybe we'll find out for sure in the next team update :rolleyes:
If you check the FIRST twitter page(s) you will see lots of confirmation. FIRST is expanding its reach into social networks and it would do teams a lot of good to follow them.
The STEM message that he inserted was a great way to reach the masses. I'm also glad that he kept his hat (or helmet?) on during his post show interviews. You could clearly see the FIRST logo start as flashing pixels then becoming clear on Entertainment Tonight's coverage today. Big thanks to will.i.am.
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