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msimon785
09-01-2011, 14:37
Hi Everyone!
So, with the start of Logomotion, the 2011 game, I'm sure many of us are excited to get designing.
This usually begins with CAD, at least for us.

Does anyone know when the Autodesk Students community might be putting up the 2011 KOP for download??

Thanks!!
Stephen of REX
09-01-2011, 19:43
Yes, when and where can I download the 2011 KOP models? We are ready to start prototyping!
Trent B
09-01-2011, 19:47
If you can import PRO/E files PTC has the KOP and Field up

http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?d=first&c=browse

The thing labeled FTC 2011 KOP is labeled as FRC when you download it, and the image shows FRC stuff.
fortinj1354
09-01-2011, 20:41
Is there an easy way to import those files into inventor?
Stephen of REX
09-01-2011, 20:51
Oh, I hadn't understood about the goof with the FRC title instead of FTC, thank you!

Are these parts as high a quality as those we would get from autodesk?
MachineSMMC
10-01-2011, 08:14
Would anyone be willing to export the KOP and FOP files as IGES files. We are using SolidWorks 2010 and we are unable to import the ProE files.

Thanks
fortinj1354
10-01-2011, 09:21
I could use some ipt and iam files. Anyone? ;)
artbot345
10-01-2011, 09:46
All of the files have a .2 extension. Are they a zip or something I need to remove? :confused:
JamesCH95
10-01-2011, 22:21
Just delete .2 I think. It's part of pro-e's version control.
Jeff 801
10-01-2011, 23:20
Most of the parts found in the KOP can be downloaded from http://team1323.com/cad/index.html
MachineSMMC
11-01-2011, 06:19
If you can import PRO/E files PTC has the KOP and Field up

http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?d=first&c=browse

The thing labeled FTC 2011 KOP is labeled as FRC when you download it, and the image shows FRC stuff.

These are the file I want but I need somebody who has ProE to open them up and save them as IGES files. Would anybody be willing to do that for me? I would like th KOP and the field models.

Thanks
JamesCH95
11-01-2011, 08:23
These are the file I want but I need somebody who has ProE to open them up and save them as IGES files. Would anybody be willing to do that for me? I would like th KOP and the field models.

Thanks

I too have been unable to successfully import the pro-e models. They're making SolidWorks act REALLY weird.
Stephen of REX
11-01-2011, 16:07
The 2011 Autodesk KOP is out! But, I can't open them because they are from a newer version of Inventor... is anyone else having this problem?
JamesCH95
11-01-2011, 16:26
what's the link for it?
Stephen of REX
11-01-2011, 16:33
Here you go! http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=kitofparts_view

Just pull the year bar to 2011.

I'm currently downloading AutoCAD Inventor 2011 in the hope that it will let me open the new parts. Gotta prototype!
mplanchard
12-01-2011, 14:15
Does anyone have a list of the difference between the 2010kop and 2011kop?
Many of these suppliers are SolidWorks customers. I will be happy to contact them and see if I can get the model files in some format that are unique to 2011. That way if I put them in 3dcontentcentral anyone can use them no matter what cad software you use or what version - we go back pretty far in history with neutral file formats.

We have the 2010 Kop posted in www.3dcontentcentral.com

You can download them in IGES, STEP, dwg and previous versions of ProE and Inventor. I know some teams dont upgrade every year. This might help
2009 and 2010 are posted on 3dcontentcentral.

Before you upgrade to any software be certain to check your graphics card drivers. This can be an issue.


Marie
Teched3
15-01-2011, 11:10
This link should take you directly to the cad files for 2011 game:

http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?d=first&c=browse:) :)
mplanchard
17-01-2011, 09:36
These are the file I want but I need somebody who has ProE to open them up and save them as IGES files. Would anybody be willing to do that for me? I would like th KOP and the field models.

Thanks

Hi Machine,
I understand from RC that the Banebot P60 motor is a very important model.
I posted it on http://blogs.solidworks.com/teacher/2011/01/banebot-p60-motor-solidworks-file-and-madtown-robotics-cad-library.html

and also how to get this in 3DContentCentral.com

Madtown's CAD team is trying to get as many parts up in SolidWorks or neutral file formats as fast as they can. Please let me know if there is some model you need right away.

Marie
mplanchard
17-01-2011, 17:29
Would anyone be willing to export the KOP and FOP files as IGES files. We are using SolidWorks 2010 and we are unable to import the ProE files.

Thanks

I have posted a 2010 FRC KOP training robot to help learn how to create a 3D Robot assembly in SolidWorks. Many of these parts are in the 2011 KOP. I am still trying to get more components from the original vendors. But this will help get you started.
http://blogs.solidworks.com/teacher/2011/01/frc-robot-models-for-learning-cad.html


Marie
artdutra04
20-01-2011, 12:26
Since I was having the hardest time getting the Banebot motor models imported into SolidWorks (and particularly could not find the 775 model anywhere else), I was able to open and save them to .step files in the CAD lab at my school. Here they are if you're interested.

Edit: I just checked the shaft dimension of the 775 model, and it seems that the 550 and 775 models from the PTC KOP are exactly the same, and the 775 motor model is missing in the Inventor KOP... :-/
mplanchard
20-01-2011, 23:42
Thank you Arthur

So I want to share with all you robot designers a little history lesson on importing cad geometry. Since the beginning of cad systems in the stone age of late seventies and early eighties there were multiple cad software applications. Most had one or two file formats. Then requests came from customers that wanted to share data. Data exchange formats were born. A big player was IGES.

Today you are faced with multiple cad software. For the most part, 3d parametric software like SolidWorks, ProE, inventor are not backward compatible. Which means if you received a model file from a 2010 release you could not open it in 2009.

But Arthur used another neutral data exchange format called STEP.
STEP files can be read into CAD systems when you select File, Open and then change the files of type to STEP

The model is recreated. It is a dumb model meaning you cannot drive the model by dimensions or parameters. However for purchased parts, these models work great. You just have to add mass in the assembly. For SolidWorks this is under Tools,Mass Properties.

3DContentCentral.com makes an effort to go back 2 to 3 years plus add neutral file formats of different types. Some neutral file formats work differently between cad software.

In 1985 I worked with an early Cad software called Medusa and way back then when computers were the size of a classroom, engineers had issues with data exchange. History repeats itself. Marie
chris janney
23-01-2011, 17:37
I had that problem. installing the 2011 version of autodesk should work. just a forewarning, installing takes forever and a half so get a nice spot to nap in while you install.
mplanchard
29-01-2011, 20:16
For the new SolidWorks teams, we have created the long and wide andy mark chassis in SolidWorks as complete assemblies. All the parts have been posted to www.3dcontentcentral.com in all file formats.

But now the complete chassis is located on my blog

http://blogs.solidworks.com/teacher/2011/01/robot-chassis-frc-2011-kop-wide-and-long-in-solidworks.html

Marie