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Jimmy Nichols
30-09-2011, 07:33
I wanted to get this going early to get the hype going. We on the planning committee are hoping, correction, know we are going to throw a great regional. With countless years of FIRST experience and Regional attendance, our goal is to bring the best of what we have seen and haven't seen to the Queen City Regional. I hope to see you all there, competing and/or volunteering.
akoscielski3
30-09-2011, 07:46
This is one of the regionals 772 is looking at going to this year. Hopefully its FUN!!! We are signed up for Tennessee and will be going to GTR West or east! Is there anything special about Queen city regional? And who are the top teams that usually compete here??
who are the top teams that usually compete here??
Since this is the first year for the QCR, there are no usual suspects.
As of 7:50EST on 9/30/2011, the attending teams are
144
554
829
1014
1038
1249
1739
1772
3201
3945
If this event is sponsored by NASA, I'd hope to see 1529, and many more Indiana teams, added to the mix.
The Xavier campus is beautiful; the Cintas Center is fantastic. There are a lot of great attractions around the Cincinnati area, including a world-class aquarium (http://www.newportaquarium.com/) and zoo (http://cincinnatizoo.org/), a museum campus (http://www.cincymuseum.org/), a vibrant downtown (http://www.downtowncincinnati.com/Home.aspx), fantastic sports tradition, and more. I'm sure Jimmy can fill in the blanks I've left.
What a great gift to have a Week 6 event. Hopefully by that time field issues will be worked out, the game will be refined to its "final" playing configuration*, and the logistics will be smooth so that the event, venue, and planners can shine!
* of course there has to be a couple silly rules left so IRI can "fix" them and Paul can go on his annual rant.
Jimmy Nichols
30-09-2011, 09:16
Taylor just about hit it all. One thing he left out was this same weekend is Open day for the Cincinnati Reds. They are still debating on whether it will be Thursday or Friday. There is an issue with the Opening day parade being on Good Friday.
Steve Ketron
30-09-2011, 09:33
Like I said in a previous thread, 1528 Monroe Trojan Robotics hopefully will be able to get into this event. I have to wait for the second event registration to open but I will be at TIMS waiting to register the instant we can sign-up. I look at this as a warm-up for the Michigan State Championship and hopefully others from Michigan can start the Queen City Regional with a bang.
Dave Campbell
30-09-2011, 09:34
Agree with Taylor and Jimmy. We're planning an awesome event. Our planning committee has some fantastic members who have been involved with FIRST on multiple levels for many years. The event will have many things to offer our teams and participants, including some FIERCE week 6 competition. Our event website will be launched in the next few weeks.
We'd love to have some of our Northern friends join in the fun!
Alan Anderson
30-09-2011, 09:53
I'd really like for the TechnoKats to attend the inaugural Queen City Regional. Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of the students are worried about it being during Spring Break with a band event nearby on the calendar. That's making competitions during weeks 5 and 6 very unlikely for us.
I'll probably burn a vacation day and volunteer there.
mathking
30-09-2011, 10:53
We (the Bad Robots of 1014) are looking forward to the inaugural Queen City Regional. It takes me back to my teaching (Cincinnati City Schools) and FIRST (Walnut Hills) roots. Looking forward to it, even though I may have to miss the finals due to another commitment.
M. Mellott
30-09-2011, 13:18
I hope to be volunteering there--maybe as an inspector.
Oh yeah, and I'll bring 3193 Falco Tech with me...and maybe a couple other friends as well ;) !
Jimmy Nichols
30-09-2011, 13:34
I hope to be volunteering there--maybe as an inspector.
Oh yeah, and I'll bring 3193 Falco Tech with me...and maybe a couple other friends as well ;) !
I expect you and your friends to register to compete as well.:confused:
Travis Hoffman
30-09-2011, 14:08
..., fantastic sports baseball tradition, ...
There, I fixed that for you. :)
48, 379, and 3193 all intend to register for Cincinnati from the Youngstown-Warren area. 3138 will be joining up as well, as I convinced them to sign up for Pittsburgh first. Good call, eh?
I've also heard that several out of state high power teams are at least "considering" attending. Hopefully some of them join the party!
Speaking of party, does the regional committee expect to organize some kind of Friday team party activity? Just wondering.
Jimmy Nichols
30-09-2011, 14:46
Speaking of party, does the regional committee expect to organize some kind of Friday team party activity? Just wondering.
If we are able to raise enough funds to cover the event and have some leftover, we are allowed to have an official Team Social. I would love to have one, but we have to wait and see.
waialua359
30-09-2011, 18:04
I really envy the fact that Indiana teams can just drive a few hours to get to Cincinnati and participate in this one as well.
If in the future Purdue and the Cincinnati one are back to back weekends, that would make for a good two event trip.
ratdude747
30-09-2011, 18:21
I really envy the fact that Indiana teams can just drive a few hours to get to Cincinnati and participate in this one as well.
If in the future Purdue and the Cincinnati one are back to back weekends, that would make for a good two event trip.
with B/T being at all regionals then it it may work in the future... with the crate and wait system back-to-back regionals were a gamble (with shipping).
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depending on my class schedule next semester i may have to volunteer... (I know Friday and Saturday will be free, but Thursday may be sketchy).
I was disappointed to find out that NASA didn't include the Queen City Regional in their list of Regional Challenge Grants (http://frc-grants.arc.nasa.gov/rcs/directions.php). Looks like if we're going to go, we need to get money the hard way.
Unless I'm reading this wrong, and please tell me I am. The text says grants are available for veteran teams attending a first-year competition; then it lists the competitions as DC, NC, UT, and FL. However, those are all 2+ year competitions. I'm hoping this means first-year grants as well as the four listed - ? Can somebody confirm (I don't think Mr. Lavery is near a computer right now, and if he is, he's going by it at about 25mph).
Jimmy Nichols
03-10-2011, 09:01
I got a call into our RD. She was not sure if we would be on the list or not.
Also, last year we applied for a Program Growth Grant and was awarded one, so you can always apply via that route.
Jimmy Nichols
19-01-2012, 15:12
Almost 2 weeks in and I'm sure everyone is busy with robot design and fabrication, maybe if still talking strategy. I know it seems early to be thinking about the Regionals, especially a Week 6 event, but we are trying to make this a top notch Competitiona in Cincy and want to make sure if you have any issues or concerns you can contact me directly at jnichols@usfirst.org.
Thanks and good luck!
Peyton Yeung
19-01-2012, 19:53
Team 45 is really excited about all the teams going to Queen City
Is there an event website?
Jimmy Nichols
23-01-2012, 07:31
Is there an event website?
Soon!
Here it is: www.queencityfirst.org
It is setup on a re-direct to a temp site where it was created. We are hoping to have it fully functional in the next few weeks.
Jimmy Nichols
23-01-2012, 19:20
VOLUNTEERS!!!
We still need several volunteers. Most of our key roles are filled or close to being filled, except for Robot Inspectors. We still need several.
If your team is attending and you would like to volunteer, please do so.
Thanks!
I should know this....why is it the Queen City?
Jimmy Nichols
04-02-2012, 12:48
I should know this....why is it the Queen City?
From FAQ on Cincinnati Museum Center's website:
How did Cincinnati come to be known as the Queen City?
During the first forty years after its founding, Cincinnati experienced spectacular growth. By 1820, citizens, extremely proud of their city, were referring to it as The Queen City or The Queen of the West. On May 4, 1819, Ed. B. Cooke wrote in the Inquisitor and Cincinnati Advertiser, "The City is, indeed, justly styled the fair Queen of the West: distinquished for order, enterprise, public spirit, and liberality, she stands the wonder of an admiring world." In 1854, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote his poem, Catawba Wine, to memorialize the city's vineyards, especially those of Nicholas Longworth. The last stanza of the poem reads:
"And this Song of the Vine,
This greeting of mine,
The winds and the birds shall deliver,
To the Queen of the West,
In her garlands dressed,
On the banks of the Beautiful River."
Dan 1038
04-02-2012, 14:09
Maybe next year you guys should name it the Porkopolis Regional, you could do a flying pig theme...
:)
Dave Campbell
08-02-2012, 11:22
Yeah right Dan.
mrschutte
13-03-2012, 13:23
Okay, as a newbie on this forum, I'll be coming as an interested FLL coach and parent supporting Team 1529. I saw the mention of the Reds season opening games and thought I'd add my 2 cents.
Red home opener is Thursday at 1:05 pm. Bad timing for FRC participants, but the Evening home opener (and calendar giveaway promotion) is Saturday night. The game is a 7:05 game.
Is there any chance that is doable with the bagging of robots taking place around 6 pm? If so, maybe we can do a group seating thing. I'd be happy to try to work something out if there is enough interest.
Jimmy Nichols
13-03-2012, 19:39
Okay, as a newbie on this forum, I'll be coming as an interested FLL coach and parent supporting Team 1529. I saw the mention of the Reds season opening games and thought I'd add my 2 cents.
Red home opener is Thursday at 1:05 pm. Bad timing for FRC participants, but the Evening home opener (and calendar giveaway promotion) is Saturday night. The game is a 7:05 game.
Is there any chance that is doable with the bagging of robots taking place around 6 pm? If so, maybe we can do a group seating thing. I'd be happy to try to work something out if there is enough interest.
That would be awesome! I can email all the teams and give them your contact info. send me a PM or email at jnichols@usfirst.org
Jimmy Nichols
20-03-2012, 15:00
Who wants to go see the Reds play the Marlins!
A parent from Team 1529 has done all the legwork or should I say red-legwork, and has arranged for a group rate ticket price for anyone interested in attending the Reds/Marlins game on Saturday night, April 7th.
If you plan on staying over or are on the fence, hang out and enjoy a game, attached is the flyer with all the details.
Just make sure you mention Queen City Regional in order to get the discount!
Who wants to go see the Reds play the Marlins!
A parent from Team 1529 has done all the legwork or should I say red-legwork, and has arranged for a group rate ticket price for anyone interested in attending the Reds/Marlins game on Saturday night, April 7th.
If you plan on staying over or are on the fence, hang out and enjoy a game, attached is the flyer with all the details.
Just make sure you mention Queen City Regional in order to get the discount!
I would love to go but I think it would be appropriate to stay and help tear down the field first.
Jimmy Nichols
20-03-2012, 15:41
I would love to go but I think it would be appropriate to stay and help tear down the field first.
For those who aren't going to be helping tear down the field. 1038 will be helping.
ChristopherSD
20-03-2012, 16:02
How many spots are still available? The FIRST website and Blue Alliance have different numbers of registered teams...
Jimmy Nichols
20-03-2012, 17:01
How many spots are still available? The FIRST website and Blue Alliance have different numbers of registered teams...
The FIRST website is the up-to-date version. We are at 53, but I just got word we may be at 54 with a last minute addition. We can fit 60, so if you are interested in coming I know FIRST will let you sign up. You will need to call Team Support to do it.
Jimmy
jason_zielke
20-03-2012, 18:01
The FIRST website is the up-to-date version. We are at 53, but I just got word we may be at 54 with a last minute addition. We can fit 60, so if you are interested in coming I know FIRST will let you sign up. You will need to call Team Support to do it.
Jimmy
Looks like it is up to 55 now...two of our Indianapolis Rookie teams (4211 and 4234) are headed over now! 4211 was the 8th seed at BMR.
On the event website, it says for the Team Social, "More Information to Follow." Are there plans for a party Thursday or Friday night?
Travis Hoffman
29-03-2012, 10:40
Whom can we expect to MC and announce this fine affair?
Chris Fultz
29-03-2012, 10:55
I heard a rumor it might be Blair. He does many of the new events.
234 is not competing, but I plan to be there Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to seeing lots of great action!
Jimmy Nichols
29-03-2012, 11:01
We do not have a team social planned for the event. The team information document I emailed to all the team main and alternate contacts had some wonderful places for teams to go if they wanted to go out on Thursday or Friday.
Blair is MCing our event and we will have an MC in training (I think).
JonDarr Bradshaw from the Buckeye Regional will be coming down to announce at our event.
M. Mellott
29-03-2012, 12:02
Blair is MCing our event and we will have an MC in training (I think).
JonDarr Bradshaw from the Buckeye Regional will be coming down to announce at our event.
Blair AND JonDarr?!? That's a great duo!!
Dave Campbell
30-03-2012, 08:15
This event is really shaping up to be an awesome experience. Yes the Blair AND JonDarr dynamic duo will be our MC and game announcer, an incredible line-up of both veteran and rookie teams, an in-expensive offer ($10 per ticket) from the Cincinnati Reds for the 7pm Saturday night game vs. the Marlins and tons of FIRST fun!
looks like we got confirmation that we're officially signed up and ready to go for Queen City this morning! This is the first year we'll be participating in a second regional and we're hoping to improve on (or at least stay on par with) our great performance at Wisconsin in week 4. looking forward to meeting a (mostly) new set of teams and joining a good portion of you on the coopertition bridge! best of luck to everyone!
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2012, 14:38
looks like we got confirmation that we're officially signed up and ready to go for Queen City this morning! This is the first year we'll be participating in a second regional and we're hoping to improve on (or at least stay on par with) our great performance at Wisconsin in week 4. looking forward to meeting a (mostly) new set of teams and joining a good portion of you on the coopertition bridge! best of luck to everyone!
Sweet! Long time, no see. :-)
Jimmy Nichols
30-03-2012, 14:43
looks like we got confirmation that we're officially signed up and ready to go for Queen City this morning! This is the first year we'll be participating in a second regional and we're hoping to improve on (or at least stay on par with) our great performance at Wisconsin in week 4. looking forward to meeting a (mostly) new set of teams and joining a good portion of you on the coopertition bridge! best of luck to everyone!
Awesome! Looks like we are at 57 teams now. Look for the team info document and some other info soon.
Joshua Phillips
31-03-2012, 20:52
PARTs is excited about coming to Cincinnati. It is great to have another regional close to home. Are we going to have a practice field at the event?
Jimmy Nichols
31-03-2012, 21:36
PARTs is excited about coming to Cincinnati. It is great to have another regional close to home. Are we going to have a practice field at the event?
Courteous of Teams 1024, 1741, 1038, and 1014 we will have a full practice field available to all teams.
Grim Tuesday
01-04-2012, 20:52
Blair AND JonDarr?!? That's a great duo!!
Holey Moley, this will be the best announcing crew ever. Period. There is no one better than JonDarr. If he doesn't announce on Einstein, he should.
CRT 306 wishes all teams the best of luck at this weeks competition. The event sounds like it is going to be amazing. I am sad that we are not going now, we were almost signed up last week, had everything but the school boards approval, and the denied us. Needed at least 30 days notice to travel out of state. I am still debating on making the drive,and seeing what the events like. We will be keeping this event in mind for next year. Again good luck to all teams!
mdrouillard
04-04-2012, 10:46
I heard a rumor it might be Blair. He does many of the new events.
234 is not competing, but I plan to be there Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to seeing lots of great action!
Chris, Let us know if you arrive, come by team 772 and help root us on....
77Who? 772!
Travis Hoffman
04-04-2012, 13:37
Queen City Regional Webcast Link:
http://live.delphielite.comThere *might* be video up and running on Thursday, especially once everything is set up and tested functional, but that is not guaranteed. Consider any Thursday video icing on the cake. :)
FRANK(WGH)
05-04-2012, 13:56
Queen City Regional Webcast Link:
http://live.delphielite.comThere *might* be video up and running on Thursday, especially once everything is set up and tested functional, but that is not guaranteed. Consider any Thursday video icing on the cake. :)
We're up and running. Here's the icing on the cake.
http://live.delphielite.com
We're up and running. Here's the icing on the cake.
http://live.delphielite.com
mmmm... I love icing.
Michael Hill
05-04-2012, 15:27
Oh the ramp of broken dreams...
big1boom
05-04-2012, 16:27
Looks like my team is as competitive as ever. Going for the triple on practice day. Might as well. Good luck to everyone at the competition, and thanks for the awesome stream Team 48
avanboekel
06-04-2012, 00:01
Oh the ramp of broken dreams...
Our team almost felt bad for not tipping. After all, we were the ones to suggest attempting a triple balance.
We were ambushed in the pits. Came in too stuffed animals and a barnyard scene. Makes the Goats fell at home. We suspect our practice partners.
JohnFogarty
06-04-2012, 15:05
Good Luck to team 1772 The Brazilian Trailblazers from M'Aiken Magic Team 1102!
Grim Tuesday
06-04-2012, 16:03
Whoo 6 robot balance! From what I've seen of the webcast, the competition at this rookie regional is excellent. Also, the MC is great and JonDarr is sublime as usual. DJ is fantastic too. Usually when I'm doing stuff on the computer, I listen to music. Today, I just leave on the Queen City stream.
Does anyone know where the rankings for QCR are online?
Does anyone know where the rankings for QCR are online?
http://www2.usfirst.org/2012comp/events/OHC/rankings.html
Same place they're at for every other regional... FIRST website, events, regional name...
themathgod
06-04-2012, 19:00
5 of us from 279 came down just to watch and check the event out to see if we want to come next year.
Thus far we are very impressed.
Music could be louder and more dancing would be cool.
5 of us from 279 came down just to watch and check the event out to see if we want to come next year.
Thus far we are very impressed.
Music could be louder and more dancing would be cool.
The main reason I do not like arena venues is there is no where for teams to dance. At DC the kids had all the room to break it down all day long (though the DJ needed to play more than 20 songs) while just like the Orlando regional which the venue reminds me the most of the teams are confined to the stands. That being said the Cintas Center is a very nice building.
Travis Hoffman
06-04-2012, 20:26
Relive the magic of Friday qualifying:
http://www.youtube.com/user/delphielite/videos
Some other business of the day - thanks a TON to Dave Campbell and Team 144 for offering to wait at the venue while their bus took us back to our hotel at the end of the day after our bus wouldn't start. Extremely grateful to them for this very kind and gracious act - plus we got to play "clown bus" fitting about 45 people (many of them not small) into a bus meant for 35. Fun times.
6-1, 128 HP, and 170 TP through 7 matches. 3 to go. I haven't done the math, but it seems we are scoring baskets better in qualifying than probably Pittsburgh and Wisconsin combined.
All 3 NEOFRA teams in attendance (48, 379, 3193) are currently in the Top 10. 379 and 3193 are bringing it strong - looking at the schedule, they will both have a major impact in the final qualifying rankings and in the elims. I'm very proud of all my friends on these teams.
Great venue, atmosphere, and event overall. The planning committee has done an excellent job in their first go around!
Great to see Bill Beatty, Chris Fultz, and Andy Baker leading the herd o' WFA and WFFA's onto the field for the awards presentation - congrats to George Bilokonsky of 1270 - well deserved!
Finally, GREAT JOB Jimmy Nichols on all you did and do to earn today's Volunteer of the Year recognition!
Chexposito
06-04-2012, 21:29
Thanks delphi elite for the webcast, you guys are doing a great job.
Thanks delphi elite for the webcast, you guys are doing a great job.
Yes, thank you. I will say this has been the best spectating event I've watched remotely this year. It's true that there *are* advantages to having closeups, but it's also nice to be able to watch the entire field the whole match.
Chexposito
07-04-2012, 00:01
Also thank you for using Ustream, being able to watch matches anywhere when you're following a team is great.
Michael Hill
07-04-2012, 13:54
Triple Balance successful! Congrats 45, 3940 and 781
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 14:05
Triple Balance successful! Congrats 45, 3940 and 781
A tear is shed for the first seed alliance.
Triple Balance successful! Congrats 45, 3940 and 781
And again, knocking out the number 1 alliance!
Great job guys!
Michael Hill
07-04-2012, 14:07
Ok, make that 2 triple balances...
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 14:16
As the numbers of viewers are increasing, the feed is becoming increasingly unwatchable. Anybody else with this problem?
As the numbers of viewers are increasing, the feed is becoming increasingly unwatchable. Anybody else with this problem?
Still working fine for me.
WOW. Semifinals between 71-1024-3494 and 45-3940-781 is probably one of the best matches in the entire regional.
Jared Russell
07-04-2012, 15:14
How was that not a Red Card? 1038 was literally ON the red bridge in the middle of the triple balance attempt!
A valiant effort from 3301, 2481, and 829.
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 15:15
Still working fine for me.
WOW. Semifinals between 71-1024-3494 and 45-3940-781 is probably one of the best matches in the entire regional.
Disagree.
The other semifinal
2481, 3301, 829 vs 3193, 1038, 48 was the most intense match yet. The defense was so hard that 3193 ended up on the other alliances bridge!
Meredith Novak
07-04-2012, 15:15
How was that not a Red Card?
45, 3940, and 781 got ROBBED!
You mean the 829 alliance? Someone explain this bridge thing to me please?
Chris is me
07-04-2012, 15:15
Apparently you can now drive on the opponent's bridge during a triple balance and only get a 3 point penalty...
Jared Russell
07-04-2012, 15:18
I apologize for adding to the confusion by listing the incorrect team numbers; it's fixed now.
Brandon Holley
07-04-2012, 15:19
Very tough call for the refs in Queen City in that semi final match. It appears a valid triple balance defense is to just park in front of the bridge and let your opponents push you up.
-Brando
Should have been at a minimum a technical foul. The definition/interpretation of "interfering with the act of balancing" is hazy in this situation. The third robot was not on/touching the bridge so I would not interpret them as in the act of balancing. The other two robots however were on the bridge and could be argued were actively trying to balance.
EDIT: I'm surprised this is the first time this has happened (that I know of).
You mean the 829 alliance? Someone explain this bridge thing to me please?
Ok, so for those of you that didn't see the play:
2481 + 3301 were both on the red bridge. 1038 was playing defense by the red bridge. 829 was attempting to get over to the red bridge to balance, but 1038 was playing defense on them. During the playing of defense, 1038 got sandwiched between the red bridge and 829, who was straight on facing the red bridge ready to drive on . 829 pushes 1038 and they hit the corner of the bridge. No foul called. 829 backs up and gets more situated to get onto the red bridge. As 829 drives forward, they literally push 1038 onto to the red bridge. I didn't see any ref's call any foul, and the posts here make it sound like just a 3 point penalty was called, and i don't know what the 3 point penalty is for. 829 was clearly trying to make it a triple balance and 1038 interfered by getting onto the bridge.
In my opinion, 829's alliance should be in the finals.
Why? A couple of reasons. (updating/editing)
[G28]
Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge.
Violation: Foul; Technical-Foul for purposeful, consequential contact.
This rule applied at all times, no matter who initiates the contact, see [G44].
At the very least a tech foul should be called; 3193 touching a red bot on the bridge, which they did, should result in a tech, because it was consequential.
[G25]
Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge.
Violation: Technical-Foul. If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match.
Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."
Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.
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Supposedly you're not interfering with the act of balance if the balancing robot isn't touching the bridge, even if the defensive bot is. If this stands legal, i know what I'm having my alliance's defensive bot do.
-Duke
Should have been at a minimum a technical foul. The definition/interpretation of "interfering with the act of balancing" is hazy in this situation. The third robot was not on/touching the bridge so I would not interpret them as in the act of balancing. The other two robots however were on the bridge and could be argued were actively trying to balance.If they were pushed into the bridge, though, there is no [G25] foul. The exception to [G44] only applies to [G28], touching an opposing robot, which is at worst a technical foul.
([G25] is the touching an opposing bridge/interfering with balancing foul)
3193 (i believe) was playing defense by the red bridge.
It was 1038.
[G28] states that "Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge." The penalty is a technical foul (9 points) plus a yellow card.
[G25] states "Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge." The penalty is a technical foul along with a red card.
Isn't that 1038 did? I'm going on a limb and saying the refs made a very bad call.
Chris is me
07-04-2012, 15:26
The relevant rule is this:
[G25]
Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge.
Violation: Technical-Foul. If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match.
So at minimum, 9 points. And there is a pretty strong argument for "the act of balancing [being] interfered with", since they were physically on the bridge.
[G44]
Generally, a rule violation by an Alliance that was directly caused by actions of the opposing Alliance will not be penalized. Rule [G28] is an exception to this rule.
If the defending robot was pushed into the bridge, there is no foul unless they touched a robot touching the bridge (and that would be a 3-point foul because it was not intentional).
Nuttyman54
07-04-2012, 15:29
I believe the correct call was made, although it did happen quite fast. The tech-foul/DQ is for touching the bridge itself [G25]. This is not a "forceable" penalty. Per [G44], ONLY the [G28] penalty can be forced on an opponent. As 1038 was pushed into the bridge, it's a correct no-call. The [G28] penalty was called, when 1038 was pushed on to the bridge and contacted one of the robots already on the bridge, but this is only a 3 point penalty.
$0.02
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 15:31
Has this call set the precedent to allow for one to park in front of a bridge where opponents are trying to triple and force them to push you up it if you want to continue?
Forgot about [G44]. By the letter of the rules it does appear the correct call was made as 1038 would never have ended up on the bridge themselves.
Given the point trade off, if the right call was truly made this may become more common...
Has this call set the precedent to allow for one to park in front of a bridge where opponents are trying to triple and force them to push you up it if you want to continue?I've been suggesting this strategy for a while. The counter is simply to come at the bridge from the other side (where you have a lane) and, if necessary, rack up [G28] penalties on the defender.
If the defending robot was pushed into the bridge, there is no foul unless they touched a robot touching the bridge (and that would be a 3-point foul because it was not intentional).
Nope. Read G28.
Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge.
Violation: Foul; Technical-Foul for purposeful, consequential contact.
This rule applied at all times, no matter who initiates the contact, see
And G28 is relevant to G25.
Again, as i said earlier:
[G25]
Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge.
Violation: Technical-Foul. If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match.
Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."
Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.
Nope. Read G28.
And G28 is relevant to G25.
Again, as i said earlier:
Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."
Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.I would point you to [G44], which I already posted above. And the [G28] penalty should be a foul, not a technical foul; if 1038 was pushed into the bridge robot, it cannot be "purposeful" contact, and thus should be a foul.
The issue is that [G28] is the only exception to [G44] and as such [G25] would not apply if the contact with the bridge came as a direct result of red robot pushing blue robot into red bridge.
I would point you to [G44], which I already posted above. And the [G28] penalty should be a foul, not a technical foul; if 1038 was pushed into the bridge robot, it cannot be "purposeful" contact, and thus should be a foul.
I believe the correct call was made, although it did happen quite fast. The tech-foul/DQ is for touching the bridge itself [G25]. This is not a "forceable" penalty. Per [G44], ONLY the [G28] penalty can be forced on an opponent. As 1038 was pushed into the bridge, it's a correct no-call. The [G28] penalty was called, when 1038 was pushed on to the bridge and contacted one of the robots already on the bridge, but this is only a 3 point penalty.
$0.02
It does not say ONLY, it says AN. It also says generally, which proves it to be a fallacy to assume only G28 applies. Furthermore, Because G28 is relative to G25 (contacting robots in contact with their bridge), G25 can now also be considered an exception.
-Duke
Nope. Read G28.
And G28 is relevant to G25.
Again, as i said earlier:
Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."
Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.
The issue is that [G28] is the only exception to [G44] and as such [G25] would not apply if the contact with the bridge came as a direct result of red robot pushing blue robot into red bridge.
EDIT: I have never really been a fan of the way [G44] is written. Since [G28] explicitly calls out applying at all times and [G25] does not I think the right call was made. I don't think by violating [G28] it is transitive to a [G25] red card the way things are written.
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 15:38
Did...Did an inbounder just win a regional?
Wow. Those are the best eliminations I have watched all year. Fantastic job 8th alliance, it's ridiculous how good they were for an 8th seed.
Jared Russell
07-04-2012, 15:40
Blue bot on red bridge controversy aside, those were phenomenal elimination matches to watch.
Somebody buy that inbounder a steak dinner!
Did...Did an inbounder just win a regional?
No! Just because it's the last score doesn't mean he won it! Gah!!!
But yeah, sure, he won the regional for them :cool::p
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 15:41
No! Just because it's the last score doesn't mean he won it! Gah!!!
But yeah, sure, he won the regional for them :cool::p
I take it back. If he hadn't made it, it would have gone to first tie breaker, fouls, and they would have won anyways. But they were tied in hybrid and bridge, so it was really close to being a tie.
Congratulations to the number 8 alliance 45-3940-781!
Beating out 48-1038-3193, the alliance that incurred the questionable 3 point penalty....
I take it back. If he hadn't made it, it would have gone to first tie breaker, fouls, and they would have won anyways. But they were tied in hybrid and bridge, so it was really close to being a tie.
Oh yes, those tiebreakers. Very opposed to those. But let's stick to the even more controversial debate: Bridge defense :rolleyes:
Congratulations to the number 8 alliance 45-3940-781!
Beating out 48-1038-3193, the alliance that incurred the questionable 3 point penalty....
True that. If they would've won that would've caused a lot of debate.
This is not a put down to the number 8 alliance, this is just an unbiased observation. But Queen City is proof that an average alliance that can coordinate a triple balance is deadly.
Huge win for Teams 3940, 45 and 781. 781 has pulled off some big upsets this year, but none bigger than winning Queen City from the 8th alliance. Huge congratulations to them!
This is not a put down to the number 8 alliance, this is just an unbiased observation. But Queen City is proof that an average alliance that can coordinate a triple balance is deadly.
If you haven't noticed, that was not your average alliance.
3940 and 781 are great top-hoop shooters, and that's what kept them alive and close. 45 did an incredible job scouting and picking out those two teams.
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 15:49
This is not a put down to the number 8 alliance, this is just an unbiased observation. But Queen City is proof that an average alliance that can coordinate a triple balance is deadly.
Well, I wouldn't call them average if they can triple balance!
Chris is me
07-04-2012, 15:52
They built a good alliance that could excel at all aspects of the game, and worked in unison better than anyone. Congrats 3940, 45, and 781.
DOUBLE BAKER! What does it mean???
Blackphantom91
07-04-2012, 15:53
I think personally that any alliance that can triple is a formidable opponent IMO, 48 is a good team and I believe if teams sleep on them they will have problems at champs.
781 has pulled of some big upsets this year
http://youtu.be/jRHGOdjmkAU
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themathgod
07-04-2012, 16:02
Congrats to the #8 alliance. They knocked off #1 with the triple balance and never let up.
Fantastic kickoff for a new Regional.
Dean was there most of the afternoon.
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 16:03
I have a question about FTC teams: If they're meant to be an 'in between' for FLL and FRC, why aren't they aimed at a middle school audience?
EDIT: It's related to this thread because Dean just gave out new homework for every FRC team to help start FTC teams in a speech at Queen City.
Somebody buy that inbounder a steak dinner!
I can assure you that we will be hosting some sort of event in his honour. If you watch SF1-1 from Greater Toronto East, Luke hit two shots in the final 30 seconds of that upset too. :rolleyes:
I can assure you that we will be hosting some sort of event in his honour. If you watch SF1-1 from Greater Toronto East, Luke hit two shots in the final 30 seconds of that upset too. :rolleyes:
wasn't that fun?
Congratulations on your win
George Nishimura
07-04-2012, 16:27
I'm sorry to have missed this [blame Augusta]. Is there a video up/going up soon?
Congrats to 1014 on your regional chairman's award! Well deserved and looking forward to seeing the iBook/eBook shortly.
Also want to congratulate the winning alliance of 45, 3940, 781 on their excellent performance throughout the elimination matches as well as all the other teams for some entertaining matches.
tacobelldog52
07-04-2012, 17:48
Just as a clarification to the "incident" with 3301, 829, and 2481.
There was no foul called on blue for the bridge the 3 foul points awarded for something else unrelated to the bridge.
When the question was asked after the match by the students the orginal thing the referees said was that it didn't matter since 829 was pushing them onto the bridge.
After the referees huddled they said that there was no foul since all contact was initiated by 829.
.............. If this is/was the correct call you really can't balance 3 robots. You can block the 3rd robot and claimed you were "pushed" into the others.
Grim Tuesday
07-04-2012, 17:54
Just as a clarification to the "incident" with 3301, 829, and 2481.
There was no foul called on blue for the bridge the 3 foul points awarded for something else unrelated to the bridge.
When the question was asked after the match by the students the orginal thing the referees said was that it didn't matter since 829 was pushing them onto the bridge.
After the referees huddled they said that there was no foul since all contact was initiated by 829.
.............. If this is/was the correct call you really can't balance 3 robots. You can block the 3rd robot and claimed you were "pushed" into the others.
If you approach the bridge from the other side, the opposing alliance can't deploy such a strategy.
Team3266Spencer
07-04-2012, 20:30
Thanks to all the finalist for an extremely entertaining series of matches, and for making the Queen City Regional amazing. =)
Chris Fultz
07-04-2012, 21:24
This was a great 2 days of competition. The finals were incredible and I think any and all of the 8 alliances had a shot at winning it all.
It was cool to just watch matches, talk to teams and friends, and enjoy!
Well run event, organized, fantastic venue, great volunteers and FIRST staff.
I hope to be there with 234 in 2013 :)
mathking
07-04-2012, 22:24
It was a great event. Very well organized, great staff. The venue was nice. Plus on Friday I got a chance to order from LaRosa's for the first time since 2001. Thank you Jimmy for the updates all along, keeping all of the registered teams in the loop. That was a great touch. Having a practice field with a tethered and wireless side was an excellent touch. Lots of great robots and even more great people. I ran in the first Flying Pig Marathon, and now I can say my team played in the first Queen City Regional.
Congrats to 3940, 781 and 45 on the win. Great game play. (To team 45, are you going to try to launch one full court in the dome?) And seriously, the full court two pointer by the human player providing the margin of victory was just cool.
Thank you to 772 for picking us and 1270 for playing with us. I wish the autonomous teamwork had worked as well on the competition field as it had on the playing field, but it was a good plan. And I think the picture we have of the "double flip" will have to end up in our season highlights.
Congrats to our friends from Granville, 4283, for finishing in style with a last second solo balance for a win. You guys have the talent coming back to be grizzled veterans next year. Or maybe even at the Connect A Million Minds Invitational in June.
Kyle Love
08-04-2012, 00:07
Overall, this was a decent event. Obviously, it was a rookie regional so everything wasn't perfect. It was a very strong rookie regional though.
The venue was superb. It's nice to see newer regional's using the "classic" style of FIRST venue. There's just a few easy tweaks to make it run a bit smoother from that aspect.
The inspections for this event were, by far, the most thorough of inspections that I have ever seen. This is both good and bad. I am glad to see all teams passing inspection. This will be a great attribute for those competing in St. Louis.
As for field staff, it was ran well every match that we had on the field. The flow patterns were well thought out, and actually made sense.
Aside from the obvious match (SF 2-3) that I could debate all night/day about, the on the field crew was pretty good. It was nice to have zero issues with the field and when things needed repaired it got done quickly.
I would like to thank 829 and 2481 for choosing us to work with them. We had a great chemistry and had a great time competing in the tournament. Just wish we could have played a little longer :)
Drivencrazy
08-04-2012, 00:40
I have a question about FTC teams: If they're meant to be an 'in between' for FLL and FRC, why aren't they aimed at a middle school audience?
EDIT: It's related to this thread because Dean just gave out new homework for every FRC team to help start FTC teams in a speech at Queen City.
I noticed that too. It seems as if FTC is a smaller scale and more affordable way for schools to have FIRST teams. Dean pitched it as the step up from FLL and then FTC students can progress on to FRC. But if FTC is made for high school students as well it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Aside from the progressions speech...
Queen City was a great regional. For a first year event it ran exceptionally smoothly and was overall a fantastic experience. All of the event staff, from the judges to the refs to the queuing staff, were fantastic and great to work with. I'm glad that our team chose to attend this event and I hope to visit it again in years to come.
The one thing about the venue I didn't like was the splitting of the pits into two sections. While I understand that it was the only way to fit almost 60 teams into a space that size it felt like teams were segregated for most of the weekend.
I would like to personally thank 3138 for selecting us and 3492 for being a great alliance partner.
I would also like to thank the Regional Planning Committee and volunteers for doing such a great job. I can't wait to see what they can do going forward with this awesome event.
Congratulations to Jimmy Nichols for the Volunteer of the year award. You definitely deserve it. Congratulations to 1014 on a well deserved RCA and to 1741 for your EI award. Also a big round of applause goes to the Regional Winners 45, 781, and 3940 with special congrats to 3940 for double qualifying with their RAS. You guys earned it with some great triple balancing and hybrid scoring all afternoon.
The competition at QCR was phenomenal and I look forward to watching all of the teams that qualified for the Championships in St. Louis.
cpeister
08-04-2012, 09:46
I'm sorry to have missed this [blame Augusta]. Is there a video up/going up soon?
Match videos are on Ustream (http://www.ustream.tv/user/delphielite).
Travis Hoffman
08-04-2012, 10:14
Match videos are on Ustream (http://www.ustream.tv/user/delphielite).
Also YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/user/delphielite/videos
JohnFogarty
08-04-2012, 11:25
I have a question about FTC teams: If they're meant to be an 'in between' for FLL and FRC, why aren't they aimed at a middle school audience?
EDIT: It's related to this thread because Dean just gave out new homework for every FRC team to help start FTC teams in a speech at Queen City.
In no way in my experience is it targeted towards middle school, take
A look at some YouTube videos of the past years robot games and robots for FTC. In small ways our games are getting infinitely more complicated especially last year, Get Over It, is where the FRC GDC got the balance bridges from. I'm surprised they didn't give 30 seconds and allowed FRC teams to try to
Balance on the bridges during auto for bonus points.
Either way in their complexity of the robot, FRC wins. FTC has the higher challenge to me, a lot fewer parts, but an unlimited amount of work time compensating.
Jimmy Nichols
08-04-2012, 12:37
Despite the Controversial Call, I hope everyone in attendance had a great time. We worked extremely hard to provide a great event for the teams.
For those teams attending, expect to see an email within the next few days asking for feedback, for those who won't see those emails, please PM me any feedback you may have. We will be meeting soon to discuss the event and planning for next year.
A big Congratulations to all the teams! I hope to see you all next year.
Dan 1038
08-04-2012, 12:52
On behalf of my tiny team, I would like to offer thanks to all the teams who helped us and congratulations to the teams who competed. We had an awesome experience at Queen City; Dave, Jimmy and the rest of the planning committee deserve kudos for the result of their efforts.
1014 - Awesome job winning the Chairman's Award!
45, 781 & 3940 - You guys rocked in the eliminations, congrats
3940 - Rookies? Really? Outsanding job this year, congrats on winning RAS!
Jimmy Nichols - You deserved volunteer of the year, great job with the regional and your team emails!
3492 - You guys are doing great in your second year, great job Denise, Jacob, Dale, Josh and the rest!
Andy Baker - Thank you for helping us with our bumper issues and lending us your shelve unit, which proved to be quite usefull as a work platform. Also congrats on the success of 3940, you did a great job with them!
1038 - Thank you for lending us Josh to act as our human player, he did great in the end game and was awesome help on Thursday as we got our bot put together. Thanks also for letting me raid your tools as needed.
Ryan Reliford - Thanks for all of the Labview help, we finally got it together!
3492 - Thanks for the aluminum stock, which enabled us to keep our arm from beating up our controls!
Everyone else - thank you for offering help and support, what an awesome display of GP!
JJackson
08-04-2012, 13:20
I'd like like to thank team 45 and 3940, you guys were great alliance partners and extremely easy to get along with. As for our our human player he was pumped and was wearing the net that he got our final basket in the whole way home.
And by the way team 48, 3193, and 1038 you were some tough competition so thanks for making us work for it
Travis Hoffman
08-04-2012, 13:45
I'd like like to thank team 45 and 3940, you guys were great alliance partners and extremely easy to get along with. As for our our human player he was pumped and was wearing the net that he got our final basket in the whole way home.
And by the way team 48, 3193, and 1038 you were some tough competition so thanks for making us work for it
It was our pleasure - you guys displayed awesome teamwork and execution out there.
We were so close to sending it to a third match. After your HP made his long shot, 3193 had two balls chambered up with seconds left. We needed both for a last second win. The first one made it, the second rimmed out. Very, very close!
I've complimented them all many times over already, but congratulations to all involved with the planning and execution of this event, along with all the great teams competing. I think QCR (it's cool enough to be called by its own acronym now) will become a big draw for many veteran teams from all over for a very long time. You have a fan in Team 48!
Renee Becker-Blau
08-04-2012, 14:56
Congrats to 1014 for winning the Chairman's Award, 1741 for winning EI, and Cybertooth for winning Rookie-All Star.
The matches and finals at the regional were fantastic! I was sorry I wasn't able to be there in person.
FRC1014 let us know more about that ibook you're making it sounds really interesting!
Congrats to 1014 for winning the Chairman's Award, 1741 for winning EI, and Cybertooth for winning Rookie-All Star.
The matches and finals at the regional were fantastic! I was sorry I wasn't able to be there in person.
FRC1014 let us know more about that ibook you're making it sounds really interesting!
As a 1014 alum with a write up in the iBook you could say I've got a vested interest in it. :) I'm sure they will make a post about it when it is completed, but if not I'll make sure info gets put up here on ChiefDelphi.
Alan Anderson
08-04-2012, 18:53
Did...Did an inbounder just win a regional?
Without those two points, the win would still have gone the same way, but it sure made for some real excitement! I'd actually give partial credit for the win to the other alliance's foul that match.
This is not a put down to the number 8 alliance, this is just an unbiased observation. But Queen City is proof that an average alliance that can coordinate a triple balance is deadly.
Perhaps the three teams making it up were average or slightly better, but the alliance itself was obviously superior. Being able to make the triple balance look simple (but still not easy) is not a sign of an average alliance. :)
The inspections for this event were, by far, the most thorough of inspections that I have ever seen. This is both good and bad. I am glad to see all teams passing inspection. This will be a great attribute for those competing in St. Louis.
None of the volunteer robot inspectors had ever inspected a robot before this event. We had help from two previous Lead Robot Inspectors, and some good experience with being inspected in prior years. With very little in the way of preconceived notions from the inspectors, the process ended up being very consistent.
I have a question about FTC teams: If they're meant to be an 'in between' for FLL and FRC, why aren't they aimed at a middle school audience?
EDIT: It's related to this thread because Dean just gave out new homework for every FRC team to help start FTC teams in a speech at Queen City.
I noticed that too. It seems as if FTC is a smaller scale and more affordable way for schools to have FIRST teams. Dean pitched it as the step up from FLL and then FTC students can progress on to FRC. But if FTC is made for high school students as well it doesn't make a lot of sense.
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FTC is an extremely important competition. You are both correct in what you have said. FTC is designed to be both 1) a middle man between the competitions, and 2) to serve as a low-budget FRC team.
1) FLL is from elementary through 8th grade, so all of those years are covered. One of FTC's purpose is to make the step from FLL to FRC much easier. This can easily be accomplished by making your FTC team primarily a freshman-sophomore-/new-kid team, where the students are still learning a lot about FRC. This allows them to already be in a leadership, design-focused role and mindset without having to know as much about robotics "dynamics". In other words, they can be the seniors of FRC at an FTC level. This way, they're learning the basics of FRC, this being the more rigid, complex and creative design, while they are in FTC. By the time they take a large role in FRC, they have already learned the leadership and teamwork skills necessary to achieve in FRC through FTC.
2) Many schools cannot afford/have the manpower for an FRC team, so an easy step back (not meant in a negative or critical way) from that is to participate in FTC. FTC obviously saves you a very large amount of money, so schools with budget problems can much more easily afford to run an FTC program. This here is the primary reason that FTC is a 9-12 program, so that high schools that can't afford FRC can still run a higher-learning based program, or FTC. Granted, it's no FRC, but it's much further ahead of FLL, and is basically the best "compromise" between skill level and money. The skill level for the top teams of FTC exceeds the middle school level, and FTC provides a better low-budget replacement for FRC.
If you have any more questions or that was too confusing, please ask.
Hope this helps,
-Duke
mathking
08-04-2012, 20:28
As a 1014 alum with a write up in the iBook you could say I've got a vested interest in it. :) I'm sure they will make a post about it when it is completed, but if not I'll make sure info gets put up here on ChiefDelphi.
Here is the quick synopsis of what we are doing with the iBook. This is our tenth year, so we wanted to do something to commemorate that. Also, in our feedback the last couple of years it was suggested that we needed a more coherent documentation plan going forward. We do a lot of documentation but it has been pretty ad hoc. So we decided to create an iBook (we are a Mac school and iBook author is free software) of the team. We have chapters for each season, another about the Central Ohio Robotics Initiative and a final chapter with profiles of our alumni. We are in the process of getting as many of those alumni to submit profiles as possible. And we are still writing up our summary of this season. In the future we plan to add a chapter to the book each year, and have departing seniors each year submit their profiles. When the season is done we will be publishing it in the iBookstore. In addition we will have a PDF version (which has everything but the videos) available for download to anyone who wants it.
It has been fun to put it together. It also made me realize how much of our history we were in danger of losing. (For example, we have no pictures of the robot from Stack Attack. My son was born at the end of January that year so I had other things on my mind.) Now we are reconstructing that history and getting our alumni to submit profiles so they can serve as role models to the students. Thank you to Deetman, and to Dan Phelps who was a volunteer at QCR and a mentor for 1024, for being among the first alumni to submit profiles. Hopefully we will also be able to include something else we want: Our first "family tree." We were founded by mentors from 128 and 677 (one of them, Dan Kiracofe was also a volunteer at QCR). Like many FRC teams our alumni have gone on to mentor other teams. We want to document all of that as well.
In any event, I will certainly post on CD when we publish and let folks know where they can take a look at the book.
Jimmy I think you did put on an excellent event. In particular your volunteers and inspectors were top notch.
Travis, thanks very much to 48 for doing the webcast. And for getting it posted to YouTube so quickly.
Another personal note, Ryan Reliford it was good to see you again.
None of the volunteer robot inspectors had ever inspected a robot before this event. We had help from two previous Lead Robot Inspectors, and some good experience with being inspected in prior years. With very little in the way of preconceived notions from the inspectors, the process ended up being very consistent.
I'd have to take both hands out of my pockets to count the number of volunteers who came by our pits to see how we were doing. If the inspectors were in fact rookies, they were certainly well-studied and eager.
The two-day field communication fight we had on our hands was correctly diagnosed as corrupt firmware on the router (thanks to 3193 and Ryan Reliford for their advice and support), and the robot performed admirably the last two matches. Too late for the scouts to take notice, but as it turned out we got to watch some amazing teams battle in some astonishing elimination rounds. At the end of each match, I thought, "Wow. That alliance is TOUGH. They'll surely be champions." Then the next match, with different teams, I thought the same thing.
I thought the XU president and Mr. Kamen had wonderful and on-point messages to share with us. As Mr. Miller hinted at a water game, excitement washed over the crowd, but I suspect he was dripping with sarcasm. Koko Ed led a fantastic queuing crew - firm but friendly; quick with a glare and a smile, sometimes simultaneously. The referees were fair and just; there's no doubt that there were some tough and controversial calls to be made, and I thought they did so with grace.
JonDarr is the real deal. I had heard of his prowess, but he absolutely blew me away. His delivery was inspiring, informational, entertaining, and seamless.
Once again, I thought all the awards went to the right people and teams. Congratulations to all our friends who deservedly earned the honors.
Budget willing, we'll definitely be back next year.
autox_vette
09-04-2012, 12:20
The one thing about the venue I didn't like was the splitting of the pits into two sections. While I understand that it was the only way to fit almost 60 teams into a space that size it felt like teams were segregated for most of the weekend.
I agree on this point. I felt kind of isolated and in the dark on what was going on in the other section. I'm probably just spoiled with MidWest with the jumbo-tron screen at the end of the pits so you can see what's going on the other side of the black curtain, but the only feedback we got was random numbers being announced over the PA as teams were being called to stage. After a while it just became a sea of numbers and it was hard to keep track of where you were...
Kenton
Jimmy Nichols
09-04-2012, 12:42
We plan on trying to get video feeds in the Auxillary Pit for next year.
Ryan Reliford
09-04-2012, 12:51
What a great event...I had a blast. I was happy to be able to help out some teams as CSA and see so many great robots. Can't wait til next year.
Congrats to all the award winners. Special thanks and congrats go out to one of the best teachers I had as a high school student, Mr. King, and his team from Dublin, 1014. It was great meeting up with you here at Cintas and seeing your team not only compete well but also win the Chairman's award. Well done. I look forward to seeing the iBook as well.
And of course, congrats to all the finalists and the winners of the QCR. Hope to see you all again in St. Louis and again next year at the QCR. :D
M. Mellott
10-04-2012, 13:20
So now that I’ve had a chance to catch up on work (and sleep), I finally have a chance to mention a few people:
Jimmy, Dave, and the planning committee - Congratulations on a fantastic inaugural QC Regional. You and the Event Volunteers had everything running as smooth as a veteran event.
Machine shop crew – I know many other teams took advantage of your services, but thanks especially for being so readily available in our time of need on Thursday.
Andy Baker and the Inspectors (new band name?) – Thank you for all of your efforts, including your assistance in a torn-bag-during-transport issue.
1014 – Congratulations on winning the Chairman’s Award
45, 781, and 3940 – A great display of teamwork and tenacity out there to win one of the most competitive and balanced eliminations I’ve seen. It was an honor to compete against you.
379 – Our NEOFRA friends. Nothing annoyed me more than to have to face you so early in the elimination rounds. Your drive team had that robot dialed in, taking the first QF match and forcing us to come back in a second and third hard-fought win. I always enjoy working with your kids—great to play both with and against you.
1038 – We have partnered with you at least one regional a year in every year of our existence, so I’m glad we could finally come away with some hardware together. You were a great alliance partner.
48 – Well, what can I say that I haven’t already? I’ve been a part of this team for 10 long years now, and I’m so happy to be a part of this truly memorable season. Sorry we couldn’t go 3-for-3, but there’s always the World Championships. Much pride and warm fuzzies go out to the students who have worked hard this season—your efforts are being rewarded.
3193 – The other half of my FIRST family. This was the first-ever FIRST award in our short 3-year existence as a team, and I have so much pride and love for each and every one of you. You really came together as a team last weekend, and you finally turned all of your trials and struggles into success. To our drive team…simply an amazing effort!
I want to especially thank an unsung hero: Keith Rising, Team 48’s drive team coach. Though he’s been a great friend for many years, I’ve never had a chance to work with him from the other side as an alliance partner. The calmness and positive vibe that he brings to everyone during the strategy sessions is amazing. Win or lose, he’s so upbeat and supportive of everyone, especially of the students. His effort to go seek out 3193’s drive team after they missed the last-second basket that would have won the second Final’s match and make sure they weren’t feeling down about the loss brought tears. He’s a great teacher and someone that every team should have a chance to work with.
Thank you all for a great event and here’s looking forward to seeing everyone in St. Louis!
Kyle Love
10-04-2012, 14:07
We plan on trying to get video feeds in the Auxillary Pit for next year.
Going along these lines, I would also ask that there be a way to turn the pit volume down. At times it was horribly annoying to here some of the pit announcements at extreme levels. But like I said before, QCR had a lot of great things that you normally do not see at rookie regionals. Good job Jimmy and crew.
Going along these lines, I would also ask that there be a way to turn the pit volume down. At times it was horribly annoying to here some of the pit announcements at extreme levels. But like I said before, QCR had a lot of great things that you normally do not see at rookie regionals. Good job Jimmy and crew.
People at the front of the Outcast Pit said the PA Speakers were too loud and the people at the back end said it was too low. This is a familiar complaint at many regionals actually. Not sure if there is anyway you won't have someone who is unhappy.
People at the front of the Outcast Pit said the PA Speakers were too loud and the people at the back end said it was too low. This is a familiar complaint at many regionals actually. Not sure if there is anyway you won't have someone who is unhappy.
We prefer "Secret Pit", but yes, situated in the back corner of the pit it was hard to hear things, but it seemed as if the problem was fixed after Thursday.
Jimmy Nichols
10-04-2012, 16:17
Thank you all for the great compliments. Among the Committee members I believe we are topping out at over 100 years of experience in FRC. We tried to pull together the best of the events we have attended and put it together at QCR. We realize we have a few tweaks to make and we are meeting in a few weeks to go over them. I have only received backa handful of feedback forms, please respond and let us know how we can make the event even better for next year.
akoscielski3
11-04-2012, 17:24
This jacket was found outside near the musketeer statue. We found this after taking pictures of the team. It is not ours, but we turned it into the Pit Admin, and were told that it would be either going to FIRST Headcourters, or the championships.
If this is your jacket you may want to call FIRST or ask at championships if you are going.
Yeah. If nobody else claims that, it's mine. I lost it. Yeah. :D
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