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de_
17-12-2011, 12:56
Just wondering if anyone knows for certain if the usage of laptop or netbooks other than the Classmate is legal in competitions this coming year ?

Would be nice to know for certain if they are before the Christmas boxing day sales!

Also, can anyone confirm there were uses of non-Classmates at the competition fields in 2011 ?
Akash Rastogi
17-12-2011, 12:57
Just wondering if anyone knows for certain if the usage of laptop or netbooks other than the Classmate is legal in competitions this coming year ?

Would be nice to know for certain if they are before the Christmas boxing day sales!

Not knowing the 2012 rules we can't say for sure. But most likely, yes.
Mk.32
17-12-2011, 12:58
Well we can tell you Jan 7.

But chances are, you can use any laptop.
Tommy F.
17-12-2011, 13:11
Since they let you use them last season, I don't see why they wouldn't let you this season.
Mark McLeod
17-12-2011, 13:26
Legal per http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2011/11/over-river-and-through-woods.html



Teams will not be restricted to using the Classmate as their Driver Station as long as certain criteria are met and all relevant rules are followed. More details to follow in the 2012 Game Manual when it is released.
jeleser
17-12-2011, 13:26
Teams will not be restricted to using the Classmate as their Driver Station as long as certain criteria are met and all relevant rules are followed. More details to follow in the 2012 Game Manual when it is released.

From Bill's "Over the River and Through the Woods" post, but I'd wait until the seventh to confirm officially.
Chexposito
17-12-2011, 13:30
i think they will allow more powerful computers, especially with the kinect
Andrew Schreiber
17-12-2011, 13:31
From Bill's "Over the River and Through the Woods" post, but I'd wait until the seventh to confirm officially.

Bill's blog is an official source of information from FIRST. This is confirmed.
plnyyanks
17-12-2011, 14:16
And instructions for setting up a non classmate driver station (from last season) can be found here (http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2011_Assets/Kit_of_Parts/Installing%20the%202011%20Driver%20Station%20on%20 a%20non-Classmate%20PC_Rev0.pdf) - I'd expect them to be similar for the upcoming season.
Chris Fultz
17-12-2011, 16:27
Unless you have very specific reasons for not using the classmate, there are benefits to using the classmate. Mainly, the FTCs know the computer and the set-up and it can help if there are problems.

I saw many teams with connection issues that were laptop driven.
Joe Ross
18-12-2011, 18:18
It would be nice if some indication as to what the "certain criteria" is. Is it just a matter of creating the right account like last year, or do they plan further restrictions? Since Bill thought it was worth mentioning, it seems to me that it indicates something more restrictive then last year.
apalrd
18-12-2011, 19:04
It would be nice if some indication as to what the "certain criteria" is.

I would guess the Kinect requirement for Windows 7 is one of those "certain criteria", although he probably could have mentioned it then.
cgmv123
18-12-2011, 19:54
I would guess the Kinect requirement for Windows 7 is one of those "certain criteria", although he probably could have mentioned it then.

All the classmates were upgraded to Windows 7 last year.
O'Sancheski
18-12-2011, 20:05
All the classmates were upgraded to Windows 7 last year.

Didn't all the classmates come with Windows 7 Basic in 2010?
Alan Anderson
18-12-2011, 20:15
Is it just a matter of creating the right account like last year...?

The need to run the DS using an account named "Driver" is supposed to be gone for the 2012 season.
slijin
18-12-2011, 20:29
The need to run the DS using an account named "Driver" is supposed to be gone for the 2012 season.

Said account has to have Admin privileges too.
Chexposito
18-12-2011, 22:17
I believe that will not be true this year. That limitation was on the Driver Station side, not FMS, and I believe that some beta teams competed at River Rage while signed in as a user other than Driver.

Oliver

... do you realize the person you are quoting?
linuxboy
18-12-2011, 22:37
Oops, I miss read it, something about not sleeping probably makes my posts less useful.