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R.C.

06-01-2012, 22:56

CD,

This is a follow up to this post (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1093403#post1093403) and the launch of a new company that is a legal vendor for the 2012 Season. The company is: WestCoast Products & Design LLC - WCP for short.

http://wcproducts.net
(http://wcproducts.net)
WCP aims to provide FIRST Teams, Hobbyists, and educators top notch quality products and designs for their projects. Along with items that are currently not available. By the end of week one bearings, chain, and hubs (Colson) will be available to purchase. By the end of week two, aluminum gears will be available to purchase.

If your team is interested in buying this season, please make an account on the site. If your team is interested in getting gears in certain sizes, let us know to help get certain sizes shipped out as soon as possible. I have gotten quite a lot of requests from teams that know certain sizes they'd want.

Some new items available:

-Bearings - Rubber Seal vs Shielded: http://wcproducts.net/bearings/ (http://wcproducts.net/bearings/)
-Colson Hub - http://wcproducts.net/wcp-00052/
-Aluminum Gears: 35T and 48T Supershifter replacements along with other sizes: http://wcproducts.net/gears-20-dp/

Special Thanks to folks at AndyMark and Team 221 for being supportive, it’s amazing that FIRST vendors support one another. Also thanks to 254 (for the inspiration), EWCP, Adam Heard, Sean Cantrell, James Tonthat and other various individuals that gave me advice and helped/tested the items being sold now.

If you have any direct questions: please email here: rc@wcproducts.net

Thanks,

-RC

Andrew Lawrence

06-01-2012, 22:59

Woah! Looks awesome! Is what you have there all you're gonna sell at this point, or are you looking towards getting more stock?

Grim Tuesday

06-01-2012, 23:04

Very cool. I assume since you're called West Coast parts, you guys are on the west coast and won't much benefit us eastern teams much, but this will be a great resource for our brethren to the west!

Nick Lawrence

06-01-2012, 23:05

Congrats RC. Brb, ordering tons.

-Nick

thefro526

06-01-2012, 23:06

R.C. congrats man, it's awesome to see this finally happening.

Lemme get dem gears. :P

Andrew Lawrence

06-01-2012, 23:08

Do you do special orders? Like tooth double sprockets like the ones Andymark has, except 18 tooth instead of 15 tooth? :D

Gary.C

06-01-2012, 23:11

Very cool. I assume since you're called West Coast parts, you guys are on the west coast and won't much benefit us eastern teams much, but this will be a great resource for our brethren to the west!

If you take a look at the shipping page (http://wcproducts.net/pages/shipping-returns.html) we can ship all over the US & Canada. We could also do something for the teams outside of the US & Canada.

James Tonthat

06-01-2012, 23:48

Woah! Looks awesome! Is what you have there all you're gonna sell at this point, or are you looking towards getting more stock?

Everything you see on the website, aluminum gears included, will be ready to ship by the end of week two.

~

Andrew Lawrence

06-01-2012, 23:50

When do you think you'll have pictures?

Also, will this (http://wcproducts.net/wcp-00004/) work in a CIMple Box gearbox? It says it works for tough boxes, but doesn't mention CIMple Boxes.

It would solve all of our problems if it could. :)

James Tonthat

07-01-2012, 00:06

When do you think you'll have pictures?

Right now, the gears are off being shaped, we'll have a picture of them up by Thursday. After we get them on Thursday, we'll be sending them off for hard anodizing (Type III) with Teflon coating on them. If you want to learn a bit more about them, there's some info found here (http://wcproducts.net/how-to-gears/).

Here's a little teaser of them in blank form.

http://i.imgur.com/H2i8al.jpg (http://wcproducts.net/product_images/uploaded_images/gear-blanks.jpg)

Also, will this (http://wcproducts.net/wcp-00004/) work in a CIMple Box gearbox? It says it works for tough boxes, but doesn't mention CIMple Boxes.

It would solve all of our problems if it could. :)

The pinion gear you posted is a direct replacement of AndyMark's 14 tooth pinion. The CIMple Box uses a 12 tooth pinion. You might be getting it confused with the 56 tooth gear (http://wcproducts.net/wcp-00051/) which will net you greater weight savings.

Andrew Lawrence

07-01-2012, 00:11

James Tonthat

07-01-2012, 00:16

I'm trying to replace the pinion gear that goes into the gearbox. I want to use the 14 tooth pinion gear instead of the 12 tooth that you're supposed to use. Does that work that way, or will it not work?

Unfortunately, because they are different sizes, you cannot fit a 14 tooth pinion into that space and have a good mesh. A solution would be to make custom gearbox plates.

Cheers,

Andrew Lawrence

07-01-2012, 00:22

Either of these gears from AndyMark will work as a replacement pinion gear. 12x520 CIM Gear (am-0741) (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0741.htm) or CIM Gear, 12 tooth (am-0018) (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0018.htm). Although, the first one is the recommended replacement.

Cheers,

Thanks a bunch for your help, but I may not be being clear (I have a bad habit of doing so).

The ones you linked to in the post up there ^ were to 12 tooth pinion gears (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0741.htm), the ones normally used to go on CIM motors into CIMple boxes. I want to use the 14 tooth pinion gear (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0034.htm) normally used on the toughbox to go on the CIM motor and into the CIMple Box, and I have no idea if that will work or not.

James Tonthat

07-01-2012, 00:25

Feroz1325

07-01-2012, 00:31

Rubber seals on all the bearings? Your getting ready for the water game too!! ;)

Akash Rastogi

07-01-2012, 01:35

When do you think you'll have pictures?

WestCoast Products has provided CAD files of all products on their page here (http://wcproducts.net/cad/). If you need to see how they look, download the CAD file for now.

Cory

07-01-2012, 01:54

Thanks a bunch for your help, but I may not be being clear (I have a bad habit of doing so).

The ones you linked to in the post up there ^ were to 12 tooth pinion gears (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0741.htm), the ones normally used to go on CIM motors into CIMple boxes. I want to use the 14 tooth pinion gear (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0034.htm) normally used on the toughbox to go on the CIM motor and into the CIMple Box, and I have no idea if that will work or not.

I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of how gears work.

If you have a gear set with two gears that have a given number of teeth each and you wish to replace one of them, you must come up with two new gears where the sum of the tooth counts of the two new gears are equal to the sum of the tooth counts of the first two gears. Otherwise you will end up with the wrong center to center distance and they will not mesh.

Eugene Fang

07-01-2012, 09:16

Congrats, RC!

604 will be using a lot of WCP parts this year. ;-)

Jacob Paikoff

07-01-2012, 22:45

I know that the gears wont ship till week two, do we have to wait to that time to order them or will they available for order earlier than that?

Andrew Lawrence

07-01-2012, 22:51

I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of how gears work.

If you have a gear set with two gears that have a given number of teeth each and you wish to replace one of them, you must come up with two new gears where the sum of the tooth counts of the two new gears are equal to the sum of the tooth counts of the first two gears. Otherwise you will end up with the wrong center to center distance and they will not mesh.

Oh. That makes sense. Thanks for telling me! :D Good luck this year! We can't wait for SVR!