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Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 09:20
I think the topic title is self-explanatory, let's just have a thread to keep all the discussion of what's going on at kickoff in this one thread.



Pretty excited if you ask me.

Link to the stream on nasa tv:
http://robotics.nasa.gov/events/2012_kickoff.php


*If there already is a thread for this, please lock/delete this, my apologies ::rtm::

msimon785
07-01-2012, 09:26
30 minutes left!!
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the CD servers couldn't handle the traffic.
Good Luck Everyone!

ehochstein
07-01-2012, 09:37
The 2012 game is almost here! Good luck everyone!

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 09:38
Arrrgh... so angry that Mike and Justin are lagging and that my school connection blocks FIRST chat and FRC Bingo!

Y Kickoff no start sooner?!?!?!?!?!?

BobC
07-01-2012, 09:46
anyone got live feed?

artK
07-01-2012, 09:48
The elevator music is better than most, good start to the season.

Pauline Tasci
07-01-2012, 09:52
wait the broadcast is on nasa tv? yes?

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 10:00
The elevator music is better than most, good start to the season.

i agree, but it's getting to me...

Pauline Tasci
07-01-2012, 10:01
the broadcast starts at 10am est right?

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 10:03
the broadcast starts at 10am est right?

i've seen 9, 9:30, 10, 10:30... so i've been playing the waiting game while watching the orion spacecraft being dunked

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:04
i've seen 9, 9:30, 10, 10:30... so i've been playing the waiting game while watching the orion spacecraft being dunked

same here. 10:04 Eastern.

note- the nasa TV schedule says it starts at 10:00... lies? a hint?

Brandon Martus
07-01-2012, 10:05
30 minutes left!!
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the CD servers couldn't handle the traffic.
Good Luck Everyone!
I hope it survives, after the work I put into moving everything to this new server. (Double the resources compared to last year.)

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 10:16
did anyone else hear dean talking about steven colbert on the live feed earlier?

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:17
same here. 10:04 Eastern.

note- the nasa TV schedule says it starts at 10:00... lies? a hint?

The feed is live at the moment, but the actual content doesn't come up till 10:30 EST

Dr.Bot
07-01-2012, 10:20
:confused: I don't see it on NASA TV. Bummed OUT!

Maybe the primary stole the satellite truck?

It is 7:18 PST. I see an old tape of the ISS.

Tetraman
07-01-2012, 10:21
music with a mysterious, detective, elevator theme is playing.

Calling the name of the game "Eye Spy" or something.

DavisC
07-01-2012, 10:27
keeps showing 20th season sign... (repeat of 2011 season?)

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:28
All I'm seeing is a revolving FIRST logo and the words "20th season." The elevator music stopped. :(

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:29
Screen go black for anyone else?

DavisC
07-01-2012, 10:29
Nasa TV now shows a still image sign saying, FIRST Kickoff at 10:30

Dan 1038
07-01-2012, 10:29
Looks like we are 11 months early!

michaela.settle
07-01-2012, 10:30
December 7, 2012?

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:30
Yep, screen's black for me, too. 1 minute to go, though!

Tetraman
07-01-2012, 10:30
Notice the bouncing green ball.

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:31
Colbert? Awesome!! :D

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:32
Yes!!!! Colbert Report!! Apparently Comedy Central sent out an email about this.

turtleman
07-01-2012, 10:33
Finally! It started :D

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:33
any one see that see-saw looking platform on the screen?

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:34
Balance, see-saw, hint.

Mike AA
07-01-2012, 10:34
Balancing?!!

anthonyttu
07-01-2012, 10:34
Its all about that teeter totter

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:34
thats kind of scary not gonna lie.

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:35
oh no, they brought back 2001. say hello to one alliance?

viperred396
07-01-2012, 10:35
Balancing could be the "uUu" from Bill's Blog

artK
07-01-2012, 10:35
"Needless to say, my Roomba will be making my toast from now on"
-Colbert

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 10:36
Balancing?!!

2001? Oh dear God please no.....

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:36
Maybe you have to use your body (via Kinect) to help the robot balance? O_O

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:37
Maybe you have to use your body (via Kinect) to help the robot balance? O_O

Brilliant

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:39
Looks like coopertition bonus will be important....

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:39
2001? Oh dear God please no.....

agreed.

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:40
Looks like coopertition bonus will be important....

I must've missed it - what'd they say?

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:40
Flipping or inverting something?

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:40
I must've missed it - what'd they say?
Bill Clinton said that coopertition is important this year in this game.



Also game hint 2: "Two Black Box Robots" From twitter.

viperred396
07-01-2012, 10:40
I must've missed it - what'd they say?

Something to the effect of "the coopertition bonus will be more important then ever this year"

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:41
Woodie Flowers writing things backwards? Hint?

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:42
Field design written by Dr. Flowers?

viperred396
07-01-2012, 10:42
Woodie Flowers writing things backwards? Hint?

Nope just skill

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:42
like backwards little eva meaning backwards logos from last year.

plus, woodie is busted. he is tracing hidden white lines, which is later sped up in editing. hint?

turtleman
07-01-2012, 10:42
There's only thousands of smart people out there?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:42
and there was the Gracious Professionalism comment....

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:43
Bingo!!!!!!!

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:43
Did anyone else's sound cut out for a few seconds when he was writing "informed"?

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:44
Bingo!!!!!!!

Already? I wanted to play, but I can't get the link through the school filters... :(

treffk
07-01-2012, 10:44
Anyone else really want the Why FIRST thing he did as a slide or background photo?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:44
Yep its doing it a lot actually. And here comes the square.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:44
Did anyone else's sound cut out for a few seconds when he was writing "informed"?

Probably to not have the obnoxious squeeking, I saw a tweet saying it was REALLY loud on the loud speakers

I am error
07-01-2012, 10:45
Bingo!

Andrew Y.
07-01-2012, 10:45
OMG its the triangle circle ...umm what?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:45
Its a bridge..... bridge= balancing.

viperred396
07-01-2012, 10:45
hey thats no square... or is it?

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 10:46
Aaaaaaand that's a game hint

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:46
Yep its doing it a lot actually. And here comes the square.

nope. a ramp. robot x games?

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:46
Wait, what? Fractal what? y u no draw normal logo, flowers?

turtleman
07-01-2012, 10:46
hey thats no square... or is it?

Doesn't look like it...yet...
...And then he draws a square around it.

BIGWILLI2081
07-01-2012, 10:47
that's a ramp/teeter totter...uh oh

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:48
Plane in the background?

turtleman
07-01-2012, 10:49
Looks like a helicopter in the background.

Andrew Y.
07-01-2012, 10:49
igfht well...our feed just skipped over woooody

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:49
that's a ramp/teeter totter...uh oh

sounds like a playground... now where is the swing? and monkey bars? :eek:

Stu Bloom
07-01-2012, 10:49
Anyone having problems with bandwidth/choppy video?

Tom I
07-01-2012, 10:49
Plane in the background?

It's a helicopter, but I'm guessing that's a Yale thing, not a FIRST hint. or at least I HOPE it's not!

MechEng83
07-01-2012, 10:49
Ack!!! Major lag and losing video feed at IUPUI kickoff in Indianapolis.

BIGWILLI2081
07-01-2012, 10:49
Muhtar's holding water...WATER GAME :ahh:

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 10:50
The feed is live and up, but lag is horrible!

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:50
Well, helicopters have to have really good balance... and there was that Kinect-powered helicopter that was pretty popular online when the Kinect first came out...

DonRotolo
07-01-2012, 10:50
Anyone having problems with bandwidth/choppy video?
Yeah, on the high bandwidth stream. Medium is fine.

Tom I
07-01-2012, 10:50
Anyone having problems with bandwidth/choppy video?

Yeah we've been having problems, try switching to a lower resolution, that did it for us.

Hallry
07-01-2012, 10:51
All this water talk from the CEO of Coca-Cola...

WATER GAME!

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:51
Muhtar's holding water...WATER GAME :ahh:

It's a representation of our bottled-up energy.

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:51
Oh boy, time to take a nap...

inkspell4
07-01-2012, 10:52
Oh boy, time to take a nap...

But you will miss all the fun

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 10:52
Oh boy, time to take a nap...

It'll probably only be 12 minutes.

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 10:52
Dean's here, everyone take five. Or twenty-five -- you won't miss much. XD

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:53
But you will miss all the fun

yes, but its also just Dean Kamen....

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 10:53
If your lagging, try switching to NASA. Helped us in Minneapolis MN.

scottydoh
07-01-2012, 10:53
Oh boy, time to take a nap...

Agreed, that's why I'm happy I'm at home this year, and not at an Kickoff location...I can just walk away from the computer for a little while!

inkspell4
07-01-2012, 10:53
But Dean may drop a hint

treffk
07-01-2012, 10:54
Here is Kansas City, KS we are on the NASA channel and we are not having any issues.

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:54
Taking the opportunity to switch wireless connections to something better... :)

turtleman
07-01-2012, 10:54
If your lagging, try switching to NASA. Helped us in Minneapolis MN.
Thanks, it works great. I can actually see movement :D

inkspell4
07-01-2012, 10:54
Taking the opportunity to switch wireless connections to something better... :)

will it really help

Ninja_Bait
07-01-2012, 10:55
will it really help

I don't think so, the programmers are in charge of it. ;)

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 10:56
Romeo and Juliet -> Westside Story= same thing.... Logomotion V2? :ahh:

treffk
07-01-2012, 10:56
1903.... Flying.. uhoh

Grim Tuesday
07-01-2012, 10:56
Basket ball, football?

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 10:56
no choppieness in New Albany, IN. using NASA tv ustream...

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 10:57
Anyone else at kick off have some weird tube thing sitting in front of them? Maybe its just part of the room i'm in...

Tom I
07-01-2012, 10:58
I'm thinking something like Aim High, throwing balls like basketball/football, but at the end there's a balance side of it... as in the two black box robots that need to balance using the kinect maybe??

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 10:58
I think with less than an hour to go before we get an actual game we are far far beyond game hints. Game hints are so Friday.

Tetraman
07-01-2012, 11:00
I think with less than an hour to go before we get an actual game we are far far beyond game hints. Game hints are so Friday.

Oh come now Ed. You can't stop speculating until the curtain falls!

Grim Tuesday
07-01-2012, 11:01
Choppiness again anyone?

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:01
Oh come now Ed. You can't stop speculating until the curtain falls!

I've already laid out on these here forums where I stand with game hints.

Tom I
07-01-2012, 11:01
Oh come now Ed. You can't stop speculating until the curtain falls!

Hey, if I figure it out 5 minutes before the curtain falls, that'll be an advantage!

turtleman
07-01-2012, 11:02
Woo! JCPenney teams!
There honestly the only reason we're here this year

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:02
And of course Will.I.Am is speaking this year too.

Captain Slacker
07-01-2012, 11:04
I stand by my theory. bridge. balance. = terrain game!

Grim Tuesday
07-01-2012, 11:05
Pitched battles--ramps.

A pitched battle is a battle where both sides choose to fight at a chosen location and time and where either side has the option to disengage either before the battle starts, or shortly after the first armed exchanges.[1][2]

treffk
07-01-2012, 11:06
Woo! JCPenney teams!
There honestly the only reason we're here this year

jcpenney's has been a HUGE help to many teams. Did you realize that every time you shop there, when they are not doing their pennies from heaven campaign, you can request to round your total up and donate? I discovered this about 6 months ago and every time I shop there I round it up, although most of the time I'm at a store that supports Big Brother, Big Sisters.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:07
Flying themed game. All this Wright Brothers stuff. Well then.

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:08
I think Dean has surpassed my 12 minute prediction....

J.Warsoff
07-01-2012, 11:09
Anyone else thinking music based game?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:09
Voice crack ftw.

Hallry
07-01-2012, 11:10
I think Dean has surpassed my 12 minute prediction....

Is that such a surprise? ;)

Michael Corsetto
07-01-2012, 11:10
I think Dean has surpassed my 12 minute prediction....

His speaking isn't any better pre-recorded...

BobC
07-01-2012, 11:11
Choppiness again anyone?

No chop just falling asleep.

Kimmeh
07-01-2012, 11:11
I think Dean has surpassed my 12 minute prediction....

Yeah, I thought he was wrapping a few moments ago... But as he said, it wouldn't be him without homework...

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:11
Is that such a surprise? ;)

I was being conservative. The show ends at noon. He has to stop sooner or later.

Hallry
07-01-2012, 11:12
I was being conservative. The show ends at noon. He has to stop sooner or later.

Well, THAT part of his speech is done finally, now a different segment on light-bulbs.

EDIT: Well those elf costumes explain the supposed Facebook 'elf hint.'

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:13
Lights.... on the first hint there were 2500 amber LEDs....

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:13
Yes!!! Colin and Kim in elf suits!!!

DonRotolo
07-01-2012, 11:13
Ah. The Elves.

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 11:14
Dean's speaking about things that, people back in the day never would have thought possible. Flying was impossible back then, so then I got to thinking that maybe the competition is about a new scientific advancement. If we have to build something that isn't thought possible at this moment, then we have the chance to advance it like the Wright brothers.

So I looked up "newest scientific advancements" on google: http://www.sciencedaily.com/

and one of the articles is creating temporal cloaks in time using light. Maybe we have to make time traveling robots? I skimmed the article and I'm not well versed in quantum physics, so I'm most definitely wrong in my assumptions.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:14
Apparently there was a corner of the field when Dean was talking about lightbulbs. Anyone catch it?

Grim Tuesday
07-01-2012, 11:14
Anyone else catch the FMS and field behind Dean? There are feeding slots! and three goals on each side.

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:14
Well, THAT part of his speech is done finally, now a different segment on light-bulbs.

EDIT: Well those elf costumes explain the supposed Facebook 'elf hint.'

I just bought energy efficient light bulbs for my bathroom. $13 for three of them. FIRST can't compete with those kind of prices.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:15
Yes!!!!! New simulator available immediately! And IFI motors?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:16
Oh yeah a kinect....

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:16
22 motors!?!?!?

Grim Tuesday
07-01-2012, 11:17
22 motors!?!?!?

!!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 11:17
holy crap, 22 motors?

and junkyard motor pulls?

and lazy susan? last time we saw those was 09...

:eek:

scottydoh
07-01-2012, 11:18
22 motors!?!?!?

Pleasant change from the rather limited selection of the previous few years.

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:18
Common theme of entertainment here....

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:18
Oh yeah a kinect....

Is there an Xbox 360 included in the KOP?

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:19
Is there an Xbox 360 included in the KOP?

No, just the Kinect.

balint0808
07-01-2012, 11:19
22 motors...hahahahaha

DjMaddius
07-01-2012, 11:19
Anyone catch the name of the company providing the Simulation software?

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 11:19
There seems to be a lot of talk of Development, research, and overall advancement. Maybe they're expecting something new this year?

Sean Raia
07-01-2012, 11:19
Lazy susan? My heart just skipped a beat.

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 11:19
Time travel is improbable.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:20
Thats the field!!

They're approaching Kinect excellently, doesn't seem to be mandatory.

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:20
this is crazy....

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:20
Oh great. More work for the que personnel. Thanks alot.

Captain Slacker
07-01-2012, 11:21
Kinect is going to be soo hard to use

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 11:21
oh no. kinect hybred mode. hopefully the kinect is better lived then the 08 IR senosors of doom.

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 11:21
Oh great. More work for the que personnel. Thanks alot.

haha that's what i thought

turtleman
07-01-2012, 11:21
Wait...so only one robot per alliance will be able to use the Kinect?

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 11:21
Weird, I was expecting kinect to be something end game, since autonomous is supposed to be no human interaction..

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:21
No, just the Kinect.

Bummer.

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:22
Weird, I was expecting kinect to be something end game, since autonomous is supposed to be no human interaction..

Agreed.

DjMaddius
07-01-2012, 11:22
With the provided SDK, it isnt too difficult. Ive seen some videos and the provided code is apparently very easy to put together a basic robot to run from your movements.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:22
NASA's getting edgy and punx this year.

Tetraman
07-01-2012, 11:22
I'm gonna say it - I'm enjoying the pre-recorded kickoff.

DjMaddius
07-01-2012, 11:22
Wait...so only one robot per alliance will be able to use the Kinect?
Yes. Only 1 person per alliance can use it.

J.Warsoff
07-01-2012, 11:22
holy crap the kinect element is so freakin awesome

ITS DOPE!

Tom I
07-01-2012, 11:23
oh no. kinect hybred mode. hopefully the kinect is better lived then the 08 IR senosors of doom.

That's what I thought when they announced the kinect being in the kit. I really hope it's easier to use. But why is only 1 team?? haha

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:23
That's what I thought when they announced the kinect being in the kit. I really hope it's easier to use. But why is only 1 team?? haha

Probably just for the ease of it, such as the whole idea of having to block off part of the arena.

J.Warsoff
07-01-2012, 11:24
What's next, replacing drive stations with Wii remotes?

Eric Caldwell
07-01-2012, 11:24
Anyone catch the name of the company providing the Simulation software?

I'm pretty sure I heard "Diamond Bullet" or something like that. This is pretty cool, myself and a few others on my team were talking to Dave about a simulator we were making at SVR last year, and the possibility have having one in the kit.

inkspell4
07-01-2012, 11:24
Anyone catch the name of the company providing the Simulation software?
I didn't get it either

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:25
I'm pretty sure I heard "Diamond Bullet" or something like that. This is pretty cool, myself and a few others on my team were talking to Dave about a simulator we were making at SVR last year, and the possibility have having one in the kit.

yep it's diamond bullet

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 11:25
Y is it bugging out again? we have it on medium quality!

balint0808
07-01-2012, 11:26
It's sad that you guys in the US get all the financial help, and for us here in Canada we get so much less help...:(

Tom I
07-01-2012, 11:26
I'm pretty sure I heard "Diamond Bullet" or something like that. This is pretty cool, myself and a few others on my team were talking to Dave about a simulator we were making at SVR last year, and the possibility have having one in the kit.

Diamond Bullet Studios, LLC. was it, but I haven't been able to find it on google yet. They're probably not launching until after the broadcast.

Tom Line
07-01-2012, 11:26
Y is it bugging out again? we have it on medium quality!

It isn't just you.

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:26
Y is it bugging out again? we have it on medium quality!

Good to know that it wasn't just us. We stopped and restarted the stream and were good.

DjMaddius
07-01-2012, 11:26
Wait...so only one robot per alliance will be able to use the Kinect?
Yep
yep it's diamond bulletDo they not have a website? Cant find anything on them sadly.

dcarr
07-01-2012, 11:27
Www.NASA.gov/ntv you're welcome

Eric Caldwell
07-01-2012, 11:27
Search for diamond bullet on google and they come up right away.

Edit: I guess not, they have tons of stuff on facebook though.

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:27
Yep
Do they not have a website? Cant find anything on them sadly.

I found their facebook page. Not sure about a website.

Andrew Y.
07-01-2012, 11:28
i see problems with this whole kinect thing...

Hallry
07-01-2012, 11:28
GDC TIME!

Aim High Ball!

DjMaddius
07-01-2012, 11:28
Supposedly, Diamond Bullets has made an Indie game for the 360,

http://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/mower/mobyrank

cmh0114
07-01-2012, 11:28
I found a fashion blog on Tumblr... :/ What's the link to the FB page

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 11:28
basket ball...

Programs-R-us
07-01-2012, 11:28
Definitely a sports theme!

Tylernol
07-01-2012, 11:28
There all wearing basketball uniforms... Basketball game?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:29
basket ball...

Definitely seems that way especially with those jerseys....

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 11:29
2006!!!!!
2nd hint!!!

turtleman
07-01-2012, 11:29
Basketball?

Tom I
07-01-2012, 11:30
AIM HIGH!!! Yes!!! that was one of the best games ever, I'm excited!

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:30
Yeah MAR! and why was there a tube.....

Chexposito
07-01-2012, 11:31
gdc, drop as many hints and previous game pieces as possible

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 11:31
the big ball?
wats' going on here?

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:31
A Rack N Roll tube and overdrive ball!!!

Combining past games!!!!!

Tylernol
07-01-2012, 11:31
There's game parts form all the previous games...

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 11:31
2009!

ball shooter game!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:32
Logomotion on crack..... and here we go with Will.I.Am

Captain Slacker
07-01-2012, 11:32
was he inside bleachers?

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:33
Oh my god... Technical Foul is Basketball.... oh god.

BIGWILLI2081
07-01-2012, 11:33
technical fouls? basketball..

Team 3705
07-01-2012, 11:33
Oh yeah! We won the safety animation award :D, Awesome :D
lol... go arrowbots! :D
good luck to those that didnt get it L:D

Koko Ed
07-01-2012, 11:33
Technical fouls. Definitely basketball.

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 11:33
He mentioned free throws...

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:33
This game is gonna be intricate...the new penalty system is gonna be neat...implies complex game, simple "fouls"

Tom I
07-01-2012, 11:33
Let's "get our robot on!"

Chomper2013
07-01-2012, 11:35
No logomotion pieces please!!!!

Captain Slacker
07-01-2012, 11:35
Isn't FIRST trying to draw attention away from sports???

Tylernol
07-01-2012, 11:35
Game animation time!

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:35
This field is beautiful

turtleman
07-01-2012, 11:35
Game: "Rebound Rumble"
Yep...its a basketball game.

J.Warsoff
07-01-2012, 11:36
LETS GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tylernol
07-01-2012, 11:36
looks like you shoot to the other side of the field.

Tylernol
07-01-2012, 11:37
A Lunacy style recycle for the robots looks like it will work well...

treffk
07-01-2012, 11:38
The end game is very similar to FTC's last year.

LafondaOnFire
07-01-2012, 11:40
It's too bad that there aren't minibots this year. I think it's safe to say that they were very enjoyable to the spectators in Logomotion.

ratdude747
07-01-2012, 11:41
!HotShots!KnowBalance!

Steven Donow
07-01-2012, 11:41
Is the Robot section not opening for anyone else?

Team 3705
07-01-2012, 11:41
ok balance.. but what haoppened to the minibots :D

cziggy343
07-01-2012, 11:44
I am a member of diamond bullet studios. For everyone looking for the diamond bullet studios website, it just went live and is not yet searchable. The site is dbsgames.net

delsaner
07-01-2012, 11:47
My dreams of playing Aim High came true!!

Chris27
07-01-2012, 11:49
Does anyone have a link to the game animation? I missed the 2nd half of it as the webcast cut out on my end.

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 12:20
I'm confused, so each team has 3 inbounders, right? One of them is playing Kinetimals while the others are doing nothing, but when teleop activates, does that inbounder run to their alley window, or is one of the other inbounders already there? Are the other 2 inbounders passing balls to the window?

Please elaborate.

am.wenig
07-01-2012, 12:31
The 2012 game animation is up on the FIRST Youtube channel. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOXsdhZZSdM&list=UUHA7zyPRS3VPDvl4ehss-zw&index=1&feature=plcp

Intel i7
07-01-2012, 12:32
Is the download for the game simulation working for anyone?

Edit: nevermind, got it to work

ChaosX73
07-01-2012, 12:39
Is the download for the game simulation working for anyone?

Edit: nevermind, got it to work

What did u do, 'cause we're having troubles as well...

JBotAlan
07-01-2012, 12:40
Does anyone have a link to the game animation? I missed the 2nd half of it as the webcast cut out on my end.

http://youtu.be/A_3pKX-ch7k is the one I uploaded; there's probably better quality copies floating around at this point but that's workable.

MyNameIsFrank
07-01-2012, 12:46
So...anyone else thinking of just building a robot that just blocks the other teams hoops *except for the high hoop cause we can't reach.

Chris27
07-01-2012, 12:54
http://youtu.be/A_3pKX-ch7k is the one I uploaded; there's probably better quality copies floating around at this point but that's workable.

Thanks!

For the Lulz
07-01-2012, 12:58
Can a human player throw the ball into the basket?

EricH
07-01-2012, 13:00
So...anyone else thinking of just building a robot that just blocks the other teams hoops *except for the high hoop cause we can't reach.
Goin' over ya. That's a 18" hoop, 6" off the backboard, horizontal. You can't go more than 14" horizontally from your Frame Perimeter, and the Fender starts 38" from the wall. 18"+6"=24", +14" =3 8". You can't block the hoops from a shot coming in from above without getting on top of an 8.25" tall sloped Fender.

:D It's all about the math.--Mark Leon:D

EricH
07-01-2012, 13:03
Can a human player throw the ball into the basket? When in the match are you asking? Take a look at rule [G32]. I don't see anything prohibiting a human player from trying... under the conditions of [G32], though, there's a time to try it.

delsaner
07-01-2012, 13:04
Are there any rules that prohibit crossing the vertical boundaries of the fender?

anttony09
07-01-2012, 13:05
Has anybody found what the material of the ramps in the actual game will be? The team drawings show to use plywood, but what will they be in the actual game?

EricH
07-01-2012, 13:08
Are there any rules that prohibit crossing the vertical boundaries of the fender?
I haven't found any. However, there is a rule governing extensions beyond the Frame Perimeter--Specifically, no more than 14 inches. The Fender is sloped on the top, and the short side is higher than any vertical surface that's been climbable in FIRST history (besides the bars, which have had little or no vertical surface).

Besides, given FIRST history, I would expect that as soon as a "climb on the Fender to defend the goals" strategy goes public, the next team update will specifically disallow it.

Cw1671
07-01-2012, 13:38
anyone know if we can actually dunk on the lower two hoops?

GaryVoshol
07-01-2012, 13:40
anyone know if we can actually dunk on the lower two hoops?

Can't grasp, grab, grapple, etc. But if you can reach them - with only a 14" extension and considering the Fender - then you could dunk.

GuitarPlayerTim
07-01-2012, 13:41
How heigh is the bump in the middle of the field? my team seems it would be easier just to jack up the robot and go over the bumps instead of figuring out an idea to balance across that board.

GaryVoshol
07-01-2012, 13:45
How heigh is the bump in the middle of the field? my team seems it would be easier just to jack up the robot and go over the bumps instead of figuring out an idea to balance across that board.

Read 2.2.5 (yes, you have to read even the obscure parts of the manuals)

GuitarPlayerTim
07-01-2012, 13:52
Read 2.2.5 (yes, you have to read even the obscure parts of the manuals)

So the beam in the middle is only 4 inches tall, so if you robot's wheels are above 8 inches tall, you could easily go over the bump, instead of building a contraption to lower the balance:cool:

DMetalKong
07-01-2012, 14:04
So the beam in the middle is only 4 inches tall, so if you robot's wheels are above 8 inches tall, you could easily go over the bump, instead of building a contraption to lower the balance:cool:

Or you could have a lot of smaller wheels, or some method of raising and lowering your wheels :cool:

donnie99
07-01-2012, 14:21
So the beam in the middle is only 4 inches tall, so if you robot's wheels are above 8 inches tall, you could easily go over the bump, instead of building a contraption to lower the balance:cool:

The bump in the middle is not going to be a factor if the base of your robot is over 4 inches. If the base in general, or any part of the robot for that matter (except the wheels) is above 4 inches, it can not physically touch the bump. If a robot is over the bump, and the base is 5 in. then there will be an inch of space between the bot and the bump.

mjustice66
07-01-2012, 14:49
How do u get up the lever if it is in the horizontal position.

Intel i7
07-01-2012, 14:52
What did u do, 'cause we're having troubles as well...

WE made our password have a capitol and a number and we changed our state code to capitol and it work (before it was just printing our city)

stingray27
07-01-2012, 14:53
I have a question about the ruling in the rule G05. The rule states "Each bridge will be preset with two Basketballs. Basketballs allotted to Robots that are not used, will be present on the Coopertition Bridge." What is considered not "used"? Could hoarding 2 balls to an alliance member after they have shot their two balls be considered using the balls? or is a robot only allowed to use 2 balls during auton?

GaryVoshol
07-01-2012, 16:32
I have a question about the ruling in the rule G05. The rule states "Each bridge will be preset with two Basketballs. Basketballs allotted to Robots that are not used, will be present on the Coopertition Bridge." What is considered not "used"? Could hoarding 2 balls to an alliance member after they have shot their two balls be considered using the balls? or is a robot only allowed to use 2 balls during auton?

I interpret "used" to mean "contained in the robot before the game starts".

The English in the sentence you quoted from the rules is mushy though. Is it the Basketballs that are not used, or the Robots that are not used?

J.Warsoff
07-01-2012, 16:51
if anyone wants the video of the game animation for their computer as a video file, PM me with you email and I'll send it to you.

Jackladd
07-01-2012, 17:58
I got this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOXsdhZZSdM
Video animation.

Also, I like how they top will.i.am with more will.i.am.

JaneYoung
07-01-2012, 19:25
I hope it survives, after the work I put into moving everything to this new server. (Double the resources compared to last year.)

Was a little busy and just found this thread. By the amount of pages in the thread that built up so quickly, looks like it survived just fine.

Thanks, Brandon!
Jane