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ValoryxD
10-01-2012, 16:33
could someone be awesome, and enlighten me as to how high the bumpers can/have to be?
engunneer
10-01-2012, 16:37
<R01>
Bumper zone is between 2 and 10"

Bumpers themselves are 5" tall.
Mik_951
11-01-2012, 18:05
It's from the floor but until where? The bottom of the bumper or the highest part?
EricH
11-01-2012, 18:11
It's from the floor but until where? The bottom of the bumper or the highest part?
[R29] Bumpers must be located entirely within the Bumper Zone when the Robot is standing normally on a flat floor.
big1boom
11-01-2012, 18:12
The bumpers have to be entirely within the bumper zone (2" to 10")
tlivingd
12-01-2012, 00:45
We have this question too. Being a rookie team, bumper zone doesn't say anything to us. It's like saying put Dextron in your gearbox. A lot of people don't know what that is. But at-least you can Google Dextron.

We're assuming the bottom of the bumper must be 2-5" from the floor as the top of the bumper would be 7-10" from the floor.

We'd like the bottom to be 10" from the floor, but that doesn't sound right.

EDIT: Back in my day we didn't have bumpers. Robots were supposed to have battle damage.
nitneylion452
12-01-2012, 00:47
We have this question too. Being a rookie team, bumper zone doesn't say anything to us. It's like saying put Dextron in your gearbox. A lot of people don't know what that is. But at-least you can Google Dextron.

We're assuming the bottom of the bumper must be 2-5" from the floor as the top of the bumper would be 7-10" from the floor.

We'd like the bottom to be 10" from the floor, but that doesn't sound right.

Your bumpers are 5" high. The entirety of the height must be within the 2"-10" zone. Meaning that the bottom of your bumper can be no less that 2" from the floor and the top of your bumper can be no more than 10" from the floor.

Hope this helps.
waialua359
12-01-2012, 00:49
Our bumpers will be mounted at the maximum height off the ground for one reason only............to clear the bump at center court. :)
staplemonx
12-01-2012, 01:18
We were thinking about making thinker bumpers on the sides in case a team makes low bumpers. In that case our side bumpers would be 3 tubes in stead of two. It should help minimize potential flipping from low bumper bots.
EricH
12-01-2012, 01:24
We were thinking about making thinker bumpers on the sides in case a team makes low bumpers. In that case our side bumpers would be 3 tubes in stead of two. It should help minimize potential flipping from low bumper bots.
Except for one thing. Bumpers have to be constructed like the ones in Figure 4-5 ([R28] as a whole) and can only use a pair of stacked noodles ([R28-C]).

Good thought, and it might be worth asking the GDC due to the expanded range this year, but I think you'd better plan for a low CG instead.
GaryVoshol
12-01-2012, 06:42
Even if one robot has the bumpers mounted at max height (top at 10 inches) and the other at min height (bottom at 2 inches), there is a 2-inch overlap when the bumpers meet. And I think you'll see a lot of teams mounting their bumpers toward the high side of the spec to help them clear the center beam.
staplemonx
12-01-2012, 08:09
Good to know
David Guzman
12-01-2012, 10:07
Has anyone considered bumpers at an angle?

Say front bumpers are at max height and rear bumpers at the min height. Would it be legal for the side bumpers to be at a slope, within the bumper zone?
engunneer
12-01-2012, 10:20
that's a very good question. Might be good to ask the GDC Q&A. My interpretation of the rules is that this would be allowed. I don't see a good technical reason to do it (that means your frame is lower in the back too), but theoretically is legal as far as I can tell.
EricH
12-01-2012, 12:59
that's a very good question. Might be good to ask the GDC Q&A. My interpretation of the rules is that this would be allowed. I don't see a good technical reason to do it (that means your frame is lower in the back too), but theoretically is legal as far as I can tell.
Someone has asked.

When they redid the Q&A, they did it so that anybody can see the questions with a note "Answer pending" if the question hasn't been answered yet. One of the best features of the new one, IMO.

I'm inclined to agree; it's probably legal, but it never hurts to ask.
johnr
12-01-2012, 13:51
If your frame is tilted by 2 inches, does the frame perimeter project up at that angle, up to the 84 inch mark. Would this angle get you close enough to dunk? Would RO-2 blue box ,last sentence, prevent this design?
coldfusion1279
12-01-2012, 14:00
Remember that with high bumpers it is also very easy to drive on top of a ball. I think the GDC has yet to explain if this is considered possessing. Regardless, a top heavy robot can flip by rolling over our squishy, seemingly harmless game pieces.