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davepowers 13-01-2012 09:49

pic: We've got balance, how bout' you?
 

Hallry 13-01-2012 09:50

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Two narrow front robots, and a wide front robot situated long ways...just shows that three narrow robots CAN in fact fit balanced on a bridge =P

Andrew Lawrence 13-01-2012 09:50

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Oh shnap! Gus got balance! Now let's see you do that with all three robots being controlled, not just placed on a bridge! :p

BrendanB 13-01-2012 09:51

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What are the dimensions on those robots on that bridge? Are there any supports/weights added to those robots? Did you drive these robots onto the bridge or did you place them?

Very impressed to see this!

JamesCH95 13-01-2012 09:51

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:D

Awesome.

Chris is me 13-01-2012 09:55

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All it takes is for two of the three robots to have identical CGs. And none of them get to move.

I'd still say wide is the way to go.

Brandon Zalinsky 13-01-2012 10:05

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Nice! Do you have any clue about how much room for error you have when balancing the three robots?

JamesCH95 13-01-2012 10:06

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Could all three robots drive onto the bridge? Even if you just pushed them on I'd be curious.

kwotremb 13-01-2012 10:20

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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1104346)
Could all three robots drive onto the bridge? Even if you just pushed them on I'd be curious.

Thats what I was wondering as well. So you have the first two robots on, how then does the third robot then push down the ramp to get on? Or else the second robot will have to be pushed into place which will be hard with most 6+ wheel robots.

Peter Matteson 13-01-2012 10:42

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Does your ramp actually act like the one in the field tour video?

notmattlythgoe 13-01-2012 10:51

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Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 1104367)
Does your ramp actually act like the one in the field tour video?

The bridge 2363 built is not acting like the one in the video. We tried the battery test and it is nowhere close to what the video shows. Is anybody else having this same scenario?

Jon Stratis 13-01-2012 10:59

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Originally Posted by kwotremb (Post 1104358)
Thats what I was wondering as well. So you have the first two robots on, how then does the third robot then push down the ramp to get on? Or else the second robot will have to be pushed into place which will be hard with most 6+ wheel robots.

With coordination, it's certainly possible. First robot drives onto the ramp, but doesn't go past halfway - the ramp is still down. Second robot drives up and bumps into the first. Together, they slowly start inching up. The first robot can go past halfway, so long as the second robot is far enough back to hold the bridge down. The third robot comes in and starts pushing against them, and all three start slowly inching their way up.

The only thing that worries me is what happens when they get to the balance point - suddenly the bridge will swing down to level. Will that motion be enough to throw the first robot off balance and tip it over? Even if it doesn't fall all the way off, as soon as part of it is being supported by the ground, the bridge is going to go back up to where it started, further tipping that unfortunate first robot.

rees2001 13-01-2012 11:24

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1104376)
The bridge 2363 built is not acting like the one in the video. We tried the battery test and it is nowhere close to what the video shows. Is anybody else having this same scenario?

We are having the same issues. It would seel like the low cost bridges are lighter than the actual bridges. We made shelves on the underside of the bridge and are working to add weight until is acts like the competition bridge. I hope this is accureate.

Peter Matteson 13-01-2012 12:54

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Originally Posted by rees2001 (Post 1104414)
We are having the same issues. It would seel like the low cost bridges are lighter than the actual bridges. We made shelves on the underside of the bridge and are working to add weight until is acts like the competition bridge. I hope this is accureate.

We did some testing last night to see if that would fix our issue but it seems like we need to add ~50lbs to each side IIRC.

We think there are missing springs or something in the drawings that are supposed to be there.

davepowers 13-01-2012 13:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1104329)
Oh shnap! Gus got balance! Now let's see you do that with all three robots being controlled, not just placed on a bridge! :p

Who said they were placed? ;]


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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1104330)
What are the dimensions on those robots on that bridge? Are there any supports/weights added to those robots? Did you drive these robots onto the bridge or did you place them?

Very impressed to see this!

37 inches long for all of them. There are no supports or weights. And that's for you to decide. ;] We'll have some fun stuff up tonight. Thank you!


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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1104336)
All it takes is for two of the three robots to have identical CGs. And none of them get to move.

I'd still say wide is the way to go.

Who said that the two end robots have the same CG's? I'm fairly positive they both aren't exactly the same anymore, especially with lack of minibot ramp, paint, and electronics board configuration, they are fairly different now. I do agree with the none of them get to move though, regardless of weights and CG.


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Originally Posted by Flak-Bait (Post 1104343)
Nice! Do you have any clue about how much room for error you have when balancing the three robots?

Fairly close to none.


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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1104346)
Could all three robots drive onto the bridge? Even if you just pushed them on I'd be curious.

Yes all three robots could drive onto the bridge with a little frame scrape, but did we drive them all together? You'll just have to wait and see.


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Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 1104367)
Does your ramp actually act like the one in the field tour video?

As close as we could get it. A little tip for anyone building the bridge is you're going to need to add weights to each end. And quite a bit of it too.


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