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Ninja_Bait 16-01-2012 13:20

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Peter Matteson 16-01-2012 13:23

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Live or dead axles?
What is your wheel bearing plan?
I think when you work this out the sheetmetal will look more attractive that the 1x1 box.

Also bridge the front of the robot together in either design to stiffen it up. Right now both will flex and rack way more than you want to deal with.

the man 16-01-2012 13:23

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The top one looks cooler. If that counts for anything.

Ninja_Bait 16-01-2012 13:28

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Thanks. We're going with live axles driving 6" pneumatic wheels with customized hubs. The bearings will probably be the AM 1/2" hex bearings.

The "sheet metal" is actually 1/8" C channel, because we lack the capability to do any sheet metal machining at this scale.

Because we will be putting in an acquirer in front, that gap will have to be bridged higher up in the frame. This is just the base right now, after all, and we do have a lot more to add to the superstructure.

And we're not really interested in cool if it takes too long to machine on a mill or it gets shred to pieces.

Rosiebotboss 16-01-2012 14:15

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Why don't you put the wheels inside the frame members? Thereby eliminationg cantilevered wheels and giving the possibility of removable "pods" in the case of a broken axle or such other catastrosphe.

mtnDewey 16-01-2012 14:17

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How are you planning on attaching bumpers? And if you are using 8 wheels to get over the bumps more easily, the frame is much too low.

Ninja_Bait 16-01-2012 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 1106961)
Why don't you put the wheels inside the frame members? Thereby eliminationg cantilevered wheels and giving the possibility of removable "pods" in the case of a broken axle or such other catastrosphe.

Cantilevered wheels will, in our opinion, be as easy to change as any other system. They also give us a wider trackwidth for turning. It will also be easier to work with the AM shifter like this, because we won't have to figure out a work-around for the wheel offset caused by the output sprockets. We are also considering belt over chain, so we are going with this design to avoid having to bolt pulleys to our wheels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtnDewey (Post 1106964)
How are you planning on attaching bumpers? And if you are using 8 wheels to get over the bumps more easily, the frame is much too low.

Bumpers will go on a lightweight frame above the wheels.

We are using another way to get the wheels over the bump, so we aren't concerned about the frame lowness. We've already tested the idea out and are confident in the drivetrain's ability to mount the bump.

pandamonium 16-01-2012 17:01

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I am curious... :) care to elaborate on what this mechanism is? At least a friendly hint? :)

Ninja_Bait 16-01-2012 17:11

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;)

No.

Tom I 16-01-2012 17:23

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Very interesting designs. Three things to help make your decision, look at weight, strength, and feasibility to build. The first may be harder to construct. It looks lighter, however. Both look strong "enough."

jblay 16-01-2012 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1107078)
I am curious... :) care to elaborate on what this mechanism is? At least a friendly hint? :)

Your hint is: cheesy.

Sorry Jake, I just couldn't resist.

Andrew Lawrence 16-01-2012 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1107183)
Your hint is: cheesy.

Sorry Jake, I just couldn't resist.

Stealing something from the Poofs now, eh? ;) I think I know what's going on now. Good luck 694!

lerikson 17-01-2012 09:35

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What is being used to assemble the frame you choose?

Ninja_Bait 17-01-2012 09:42

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Riveted gussets.


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