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wilhitern1 19-01-2012 14:56

Defending the bounce pass
 
What do you think about parking the alliances defensive bot just on the defensive side of the barrier between your bridge and the cooperation bridge. I'm thinking it would make it pretty easy to intercept the bounce passes from the in-bounders. Any thoughts in that line or other defenses?

RDX1466 19-01-2012 15:21

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by wilhitern1 (Post 1109126)
What do you think about parking the alliances defensive bot just on the defensive side of the barrier between your bridge and the cooperation bridge. I'm thinking it would make it pretty easy to intercept the bounce passes from the in-bounders. Any thoughts in that line or other defenses?

It seems like it would be pretty easy to bounce the balls to either side of the defending robot, but it is a neat idea.

wilhitern1 19-01-2012 15:31

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by CancerKidSwag (Post 1109138)
It seems like it would be pretty easy to bounce the balls to either side of the defending robot, but it is a neat idea.

But that's why we put wheels on them.

Same as basketball. You pass to my right, I go to my right to intercept. It's a long way from the inbound slot to the other side of the barrier wall. Plenty of time to adjust for the incoming pass. Now, I haven't got a robot yet to check the reasonableness of that statement, but I'm thinking it's doable.

T Wallas Pog 19-01-2012 15:32

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
The balls can be bounced through the lane and over the opposing bridge so unless the other team doesn't have a defensive bot they can get it around that bot every time. However during the first part of the match in the seconds right after Hybrid mode you could start to block against any balls you had scored without fear of interference.

wilhitern1 19-01-2012 15:49

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by T Wallas Pog (Post 1109142)
The balls can be bounced through the lane and over the opposing bridge so unless the other team doesn't have a defensive bot they can get it around that bot every time. However during the first part of the match in the seconds right after Hybrid mode you could start to block against any balls you had scored without fear of interference.

That point (the edge of the flat bridge) is 8 inches higher. I'm thinking that it will be much harder to do. That most successful bounce passes are going to go through the slot between the bridges. In my practices, that was certainly how it worked out. Say a third as many successful passes. Remember every failed pass is a free slam dunk for the opponents (not really, but you get the idea)...

T Wallas Pog 19-01-2012 15:54

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by wilhitern1 (Post 1109148)
That point (the edge of the flat bridge) is 8 inches higher. I'm thinking that it will be much harder to do. That most successful bounce passes are going to go through the slot between the bridges. In my practices, that was certainly how it worked out. Say a third as many successful passes. Remember every failed pass is a free slam dunk for the opponents (not really, but you get the idea)...

It is indeed higher however I said this because my team was very successful at getting the ball over the bridge by bouncing it. We had about a 5% fail ratio.

RDX1466 19-01-2012 15:54

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by wilhitern1 (Post 1109141)
But that's why we put wheels on them.

Same as basketball. You pass to my right, I go to my right to intercept. It's a long way from the inbound slot to the other side of the barrier wall. Plenty of time to adjust for the incoming pass. Now, I haven't got a robot yet to check the reasonableness of that statement, but I'm thinking it's doable.

I'm not sure about plenty of time, but I don't know for sure.

Also, there is no way to ensure that the opposing team will be bouncing balls in. And if they don't, then you have to completely change your strategy.

wilhitern1 19-01-2012 16:07

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by RDX1466 (Post 1109151)
I'm not sure about plenty of time, but I don't know for sure.

Also, there is no way to ensure that the opposing team will be bouncing balls in. And if they don't, then you have to completely change your strategy.

Defense is that way. You can't defend against something that isn't used.

RDX1466 19-01-2012 16:12

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by wilhitern1 (Post 1109156)
Defense is that way. You can't defend against something that isn't used.

Exactly. All I am saying is that I wouldn't rely on it as my primary strategy. I see it more as a back-up strategy if a team starts to bounce pass a lot of balls in. :)

bob1182 28-01-2012 23:15

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
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Originally Posted by T Wallas Pog (Post 1109150)
It is indeed higher however I said this because my team was very successful at getting the ball over the bridge by bouncing it. We had about a 5% fail ratio.

Were they standing behind the starting line 4 feet from the wall when they did it ? Rule G33

jon-s 01-02-2012 16:36

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
I think a lot of the defensive capability of the defending robot depends on the shooting trajectory of the offensive/passing robot.

lemiant 01-02-2012 16:40

Re: Defending the bounce pass
 
ALL top tier teams with a practice field will be making these consistently. I say this based on personal experience with the field set up in the legal configuration.


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