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Andrew Lawrence 22-01-2012 00:17

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by Bryscus (Post 1110979)
What's keeping you from REMOVING 2 wheels - you know, segway style?

:)

Gravity. Friction. The usual, though this does give me an idea:

Dean Kamen created the 2 wheeled segway.

Team 256 will now invent the 1 wheel segway! With 3000 gyroscopes and over 6 lines of code!

KrazyCarl92 22-01-2012 00:28

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1110827)
Is there a way to turn better without adding an extra wheel on a wide chassis, or without changing to omni wheels? We would be doing this with 4 wheels, not 8, however.

That's interesting...we've had a 4 wheel drive robot at 119.9 pounds before on 6 inch andymark plaction wheels with no problems turning...are you using 4 CIMs in you're drivetrain? If not, this extra torque could aid in turning.

Andrew Lawrence 22-01-2012 00:30

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1110997)
That's interesting...we've had a 4 wheel drive robot at 119.9 pounds before on 6 inch andymark plaction wheels with no problems turning...are you using 4 CIMs in you're drivetrain? If not, this extra torque could aid in turning.

We are using all 4 CIMs. We actually aren't experiencing problems since we haven't tested yet (Testing tomorrow, can't wait! :D), however we wanted to know if there was anything we could do to prevent any problems.

KrazyCarl92 22-01-2012 00:38

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1110998)
We are using all 4 CIMs. We actually aren't experiencing problems since we haven't tested yet (Testing tomorrow, can't wait! :D), however we wanted to know if there was anything we could do to prevent any problems.

Ah, then I'd bet you'd be fine! A 6 wheel drive narrow chassis breaks up the wheel base into 2, 28 x 19 rectangles (roughly), which is a ratio of 1.47:1. With a wide chassis, you have one wheel base that is a rectangle of 38 x 28 (roughly), which is a ratio of 1.36:1. Now short of vector analysis, that's easy math that can show you the turning abilities should be somewhat similar; don't expect any major changes.

Andrew Lawrence 22-01-2012 00:45

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1111001)
Ah, then I'd bet you'd be fine! A 6 wheel drive narrow chassis breaks up the wheel base into 2, 28 x 19 rectangles (roughly), which is a ratio of 1.47:1. With a wide chassis, you have one wheel base that is a rectangle of 38 x 28 (roughly), which is a ratio of 1.36:1. Now short of vector analysis, that's easy math that can show you the turning abilities should be somewhat similar; don't expect any major changes.

Thanks!

WarriorRobotics 22-01-2012 03:15

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1110997)
That's interesting...we've had a 4 wheel drive robot at 119.9 pounds before on 6 inch andymark plaction wheels with no problems turning...are you using 4 CIMs in you're drivetrain? If not, this extra torque could aid in turning.

Really now? Anything you had to do to get it to work like that? We're currently using 4 CIMs and our robot can't turn.

Tristan Lall 22-01-2012 03:31

Re: How to turn better with four wheel?
 
This may be relevant to your interests. (Look at the diagram, then at the final equations; it's pretty straightforward.)


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