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de_ 02-02-2012 18:36

Who is using 10" or 8" Pneumatic Wheels
 
AM sells some (correction: sells 8" ones). You can buy them at hardware stores. They are used on dollies etc.

Just wondering how easy the robot is to turn ? Using them on a long robot or wide robot or smaller than legal footprint robot ? What about the bump ? Any testing with a full weight 145 lbs robot (including battery and bumpers or equivalent weights) ?

Mk.32 02-02-2012 18:38

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
You cannot buy 10inch wheels off AM as far as I know...

We got a set from SkyWayWheels, for pretty cheap with a FIRST discount.
Currently we are machining out hubs for them to be able to mount sprockets on, I will post back when we get a driving base with them set up.

jp1247 02-02-2012 18:59

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Team 1247 is using 10 inch pneumatic wheels, though they are designed for wheel barrows. Half of them are even gold rimmed! In all seriousness, the robot is having a bit difficulty turning, and the voltage actually has to be ramped while turning because the breakers pop from the stall current :/

Mk.32 02-02-2012 19:02

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jp1247 (Post 1118768)
Team 1247 is using 10 inch pneumatic wheels, though they are designed for wheel barrows. Half of them are even gold rimmed! In all seriousness, the robot is having a bit difficulty turning, and the voltage actually has to be ramped while turning because the breakers pop from the stall current :/

What kind of set up do you have? 4 Wheel? 6 Wheel? and how much drop if any?

mrnoble 02-02-2012 23:32

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Team 1339 is using wheels we got at harbor freight. They are heavy but may have some offsetting advantages. They sure do look cool. We have had little drive time so far as we had to machine hubs and blew out the crio. I'll keep you updated.

WizenedEE 03-02-2012 00:10

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We're using 7.5 inch wheels (they said 8 inch...) because the 10 inch wheels were too heavy. We put omni wheels on the back, and it obviously turns great. However, when we tried it with the standard rubber wheels, the chassis would just bow up and it wouldn't move at all when trying to turn.

2544HCRC 03-02-2012 10:57

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We are using a 9" wheel from a supplier of scooter wheels and parts. They are about $40 each, come with the aluminum wheel, inner tube, tire, and a #25 pitch sprocket, and 10mm bearings installed. I'm a bit concerned with the turning. We are using a 6wd setup with a center drop.

mayde 03-02-2012 19:54

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
If you have a 6 wheel chassis with 2 sets of omniwheels and 1 set of the pneumatic kind, turning isn't a problem at all.. our baby is drifting like vin diesel in an action movie. I'm not sure how an all pneumatic wheeled drive train would work out, however.

jp1247 03-02-2012 20:36

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1118769)
What kind of set up do you have? 4 Wheel? 6 Wheel? and how much drop if any?

We are using 4 wheels, and I'm not quite sure what you mean by "drop".

mdiradoorian 03-02-2012 20:39

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We are using eight 6" Pneumatic wheels.

onecoolc 03-02-2012 21:48

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayde (Post 1119440)
If you have a 6 wheel chassis with 2 sets of omniwheels and 1 set of the pneumatic kind, turning isn't a problem at all.. our baby is drifting like vin diesel in an action movie. I'm not sure how an all pneumatic wheeled drive train would work out, however.

For clarification, we're using the Andymark 8" Pneumatic wheels in the center of a six wheel drive, with 8" Dualie Omni Wheels on both the front and back (also from Andymark).

And, yeah, she spins like a top. So far we've only tested the 'bot on linoleum, and she tends to drift quite a bit, but that won't be as big of an issue on carpet. With some practice the drive team should be able to handle it fine.

mrnoble 04-02-2012 11:28

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We are trying a slightly different configuration this year; six wheels (10" with a 1/4" drop in the center), driving only the rear and middle. We have had success with using painter's tape to cover tread on the front wheels to avoid sticking in years past, and will probably do something like that again. We are doing a lot of testing today, so we'll see what happens.

MrBasse 04-02-2012 12:19

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We had 6 harbor freight wheels mounted and running and had no problem with turning with a 1/4" drop. We had planned on articulating the center wheels to allow for a stable shooting platform, but when we built the whole thing it turned out to be a little heavy.

We are now running two of our pneumatic wheels in the center and 2011 kop wheels front and rear. Looks like it should be about the same performance, but it doesn't look as mean. Plus it weighs 40 lbs less, which is good if we want to attach anything that can do minor tasks like perhaps picking up an 8" foam ball and shooting it.

ksafin 05-02-2012 22:24

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
we're using 10" pneumatics from harbor freight. They are our two front drive wheels and we have 2 casters on the back of the robot.

it turns pretty well, but that's all due to the casters.

If it was 4 pneumatics I can't say I know what would happen.

However, we had a team member sit on the robot and we noticed it drives much better under weight (the tires get more contact in the floor when pressed down).

I'd also suggest wearing them out a bit so the tread is flatter and, again, gets more contact with the floor.

legogeek24 05-02-2012 22:29

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We're using 8" pneumatic wheels, one in the center of each side of our frame. We'll be mounting casters on the front and back eventually, but just driving with the two wheels and nothing else, it handles great! We're flying right over the bump and climbing the bridge with no difficulty.

Madison 05-02-2012 22:44

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by legogeek24 (Post 1120729)
We're using 8" pneumatic wheels, one in the center of each side of our frame. We'll be mounting casters on the front and back eventually, but just driving with the two wheels and nothing else, it handles great! We're flying right over the bump and climbing the bridge with no difficulty.

How do you get up the bridge with casters on each end?

PAR_WIG1350 05-02-2012 23:29

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1120742)
How do you get up the bridge with casters on each end?

Sounds like they have some type of suspension system with a considerable amount of travel (well, compared to last year, it would have been fairly normal in 2010), or they've overlooked something.

striker 06-02-2012 11:37

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We are using 10" pneumatic wheels. Six wheel drive and it turns great, goes over the bump too. Here is a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WV8Uw-5lqI

camtunkpa 06-02-2012 12:27

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
222 is using 12.5" wheels

Mk.32 06-02-2012 12:28

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by striker (Post 1120935)
We are using 10" pneumatic wheels. Six wheel drive and it turns great, goes over the bump too. Here is a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WV8Uw-5lqI

How's driving on carpet?

mrnoble 06-02-2012 21:01

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
The wheels work really well on carpet and the bot spins like a top. We might need to power the front wheels, but we are getting over the bump with a moderate run up. It's like watching a monster truck.

mrnoble 08-02-2012 08:53

Re: Who is using 10" Pneumatic Wheels
 
We have lowered the pressure on the front and rear wheels, which gives more of a cushion for hitting the bump, and gives higher traction for pushing on to the ramp at an angle.


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