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wilsonmw04 03-02-2012 10:59

pic: FRC 1086 Final Robot: 2012
 

notmattlythgoe 03-02-2012 11:00

Re: pic: FRC 1086 Final Robot: 2012
 
Looks spectacular, see you at Virginia.

jvriezen 03-02-2012 11:54

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Your robot looks better than ours, at this point...

However, your appendage looks illegal, as it appears to be two appendages when it first crosses the frame perimeter. That's a no-no, according to the GDC Q&A on 2012-02-01

Q: Our question is similar to FRC1540. We want to put surgical tubing "whips" on a roller located at the frame perimeter. When this rotates the whips will extend beyond the frame perimeter. Is each "whip" its own apendage or is the assembly considered one appendage?

A: If multiple items exit the Frame Perimeter and are not contiguous outside the Frame Perimeter, they are considered multiple appendages.

Timz3082 03-02-2012 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1119178)
Your robot looks better than ours, at this point...

However, your appendage looks illegal, as it appears to be two appendages when it first crosses the frame perimeter. That's a no-no, according to the GDC Q&A on 2012-02-01

Q: Our question is similar to FRC1540. We want to put surgical tubing "whips" on a roller located at the frame perimeter. When this rotates the whips will extend beyond the frame perimeter. Is each "whip" its own apendage or is the assembly considered one appendage?

A: If multiple items exit the Frame Perimeter and are not contiguous outside the Frame Perimeter, they are considered multiple appendages.

NOTE: *Actual Robot in upper right corner...

wilsonmw04 03-02-2012 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timz3082 (Post 1119180)
NOTE: *Actual Robot in upper right corner...

There are some interesting hints as to what we are going to be doing if you have a keen eye...

LightSpeedIII 03-02-2012 13:33

Re: pic: FRC 1086 Final Robot: 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1119178)
Your robot looks better than ours, at this point...

However, your appendage looks illegal, as it appears to be two appendages when it first crosses the frame perimeter. That's a no-no, according to the GDC Q&A on 2012-02-01

Q: Our question is similar to FRC1540. We want to put surgical tubing "whips" on a roller located at the frame perimeter. When this rotates the whips will extend beyond the frame perimeter. Is each "whip" its own apendage or is the assembly considered one appendage?

A: If multiple items exit the Frame Perimeter and are not contiguous outside the Frame Perimeter, they are considered multiple appendages.

When the appendage fully extends, they are connected outside of the frame

notmattlythgoe 03-02-2012 13:35

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Looks like angles on the chassis to traverse the barrier, what about the turret? Do you plan on rotating it or fixing it and using the drive train to rotate it? Did you guys ever get your cRio problems figured out last year? It was a shame to see such a nice looking bot with so much bad luck.

PayneTrain 03-02-2012 13:44

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You guys know how hard it is to powder coat wood, right?

I was expecting something in the vein of your 2009 robot. Looks like this one won't disappoint either

EricH 03-02-2012 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LightSpeedIII (Post 1119222)
When the appendage fully extends, they are connected outside of the frame

Therein lies the problem. When the appendage fully extends, it's good. While it is in the process of extending, at least looking at current Q&A interpretations, it's 2 appendages, and you're only allowed 1. There is more discussion at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=100696.

PatrickBrew1086 03-02-2012 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1119235)
Therein lies the problem. When the appendage fully extends, it's good. While it is in the process of extending, at least looking at current Q&A interpretations, it's 2 appendages, and you're only allowed 1. There is more discussion at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=100696.

We actually just talked about this issue at lunch today; we are planning on posting on the Q & A a question about if that instance where the rod that connects the two is behind the bumper but everything else is outside the bumpers will be forgiven. If not, we'll work on re-drawing the part so it is within the rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1119226)
Looks like angles on the chassis to traverse the barrier, what about the turret? Do you plan on rotating it or fixing it and using the drive train to rotate it? Did you guys ever get your cRio problems figured out last year? It was a shame to see such a nice looking bot with so much bad luck.

There are angles on the real chassis, the one in the top right corner, for bump traversing with ease. It is a design that we modified from our 2010 robot. We are planning, after many long design and strategy discussions, on not having a turret this year. Pinpointing the issue with our cRio was an issue but we completely replaced everything between the code and the robot. So we have a new computer to download code from (including code in a different language from last year), ethernet tether, bridge, power converter, and cRio (4 slot). Last year was rough robot wise but it certainly wasn't all bad luck that kept the robot stagnant.

Patrick Brew

dellagd 03-02-2012 14:51

Re: pic: FRC 1086 Final Robot: 2012
 
Bears a striking resemblance to ours! The shooter is virtually the same!

nahstobor 03-02-2012 22:59

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Looks like your 2012 drivetrain is in the upper right hand corner of the picture. ;)

EricH 03-02-2012 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nahstobor (Post 1119571)
Looks like your 2012 drivetrain is in the upper right hand corner of the picture. ;)

Looks like the practice one. I think I saw a corner of the real one in the lower right.

wilsonmw04 03-02-2012 23:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1119575)
Looks like the practice one. I think I saw a corner of the real one in the lower right.

Two points for Eric! Anything else you notice?

Quote:

Bears a striking resemblance to ours! The shooter is virtually the same!
We have a little twist on our shooter this year. (no pun intended)

EricH 03-02-2012 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 1119586)
Two points for Eric! Anything else you notice?

Yeah, you're bluffing about not having wheels. The shooter base has 4 (not counting shooter wheels), which don't look like they're powered yet, and that other chassis I mentioned is levitating (or has some form of wheels on it).


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