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2012 Greater Kansas City Regional
With Greater Kansas City regional under a month away, I figured it was time to get this one started. How are the teams attending coming along in their season? Any body a little frightened that we're going to a week one competition? On the bright side, we're all going to be on relatively equal footing for actual competition experience. But then again, so are the rules (And veterans all know how much that can make or break a match!)
Anyways, hope the teams attending are coming along swimmingly and the rest of your season goes according to plan! Team 2410 can't wait to see you all again! PS: Check out http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=101234 and help us out :) Much appreciated, thanks! |
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Hello there! Team 1775 Tigerbytes will be joining the Greater Kansas City Regional at Hale. We're still working out some kinks in the shooter but our robot looks like it's gonna be a good one this year. Our drivers are practicing a lot to refine their driving and it's looking good on their part. We can successfully get on the bridge (however tipping is another story that we're still working on) and push another robot to equilibrium.
Our build team has doubled since last year, also! Our mentor team has grown exponentially since last year, growing from 4 mentors to 9 with the help of Honeywell and Hallmark. We're looking forward to see you there, The Metal Mustangs! And please feel free to ask any questions about our team! -Linda |
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1939 - The Kuhnigits are excited to be attending Kansas City again this year. Competition is getting really tough, and that makes us want to work harder. That said, we have gone through a lot of big transitions this year and we are trying to reach some pretty ambitious goals. So, we'll just have to see how everything goes.
We can't wait to see all of you at the KC Regional. It promises to be awesome as usual. Don't worry, we won't forget the killer bunny. Good luck to all the other teams! |
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Team 2949 PWNAGE from Batavia, IL will be there! We're working harder then ever this year. Our team has grown in size to almost 20 students and we have more mentors then ever! We have also acquired new sponsors/partnerships with NASA, 4H and JC Penney. We can't wait to come to the KC Regional for the first time. Our robot will be revealed right before the regional. Here we come week 1!
-Nick (This is my Wildstang Post! :p ) |
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Team 2996 Cougars Gone Wired is doing great as well, especially with our giant programming team this year! ^.^
We'll be there at Kansas city, so see y'all there! |
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Only 11 more days until shipment (or in our case bag and tag). Hope everyone has been having a great build season so far. Just wanted to remind everyone to bring cans to the regional. This year team 2410 is hosting Build KC, a harvesters food drive. Please encourage each of your teammates to bring a can with them to the regional.
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Looking forward to seeing you all at regionals.
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Make sure on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning to swing by the JFLL and FLL area and see what the kids did this year! I look forward to seeing you guys there.
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It's safe to say team 1730 Team Driven will be attending! Hope to see you all there!
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Team 1987, The Broncobots, is competing at KC for the first time this year. After volunteering there for 4 years, we're very excited to compete with all our local teams. Under new policy, new leadership, and a new roof, we're eager to see how we'll perform at KC. We'll see you there!
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Less than a week left. Who's excited?
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I'd say we're pretty excited. We have an entire new spirit section of our team who're looking for an award. Plenty of new tricks for us to use with our robot.
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The KCFirst website (http://www.kcfirst.org/FRC-High_School.html) has a link to MOREnet (http://www.more.net/first-robotics) for the webcast. Even though the MOREnet page hasn't been updated for the 2012 broadcast, I assume they are on board again. They always have an excellent feed, and they archive the matches on their site as they broadcast so people around the country can view the matches they are most interested in even if they can't catch it live. They don't always broadcast Thursday. Not sure what the plan is this year regarding that.
Being a week one regional there should be a few eyeballs from around the country curious to see how the game will be played. Might even have a few just tuning in to see 16 since they haven't posted a reveal video yet. Should be a good show. |
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This will be my first trip the Greater Kansas City Regional. I'm looking forward to seeing people and robots from several teams competing there, although my current team (3620, St. Joseph, Michigan) will not be one of them. Some of my favorites are 1985, 1208, 1094, 525, 16, and of course my all-time favorite 931. :D |
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Looking for a great regional. The regional has 64 teams from 9 different states. The seating has been maximized for this year, the pits have been rearranged enabling better interaction between teams yet keeping 20' Isles for easy traffic flow. Along with FIRST supplied 1/2 practice field we have a full practice field being supplied by a local alliance of teams. We have 6 corporate sponsors along with 12 College and Universities all displaying in the arena area this year. The regional planning committee welcomes all those in attendance and if you have any comments please look for a RPC member in a the red shirts.
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...wow. Sounds like this year is going to be the best year of KC yet. A full practice field, a new college row, and some interesting teams. This should be a week one event never to be forgotten.
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Look for something HUGE coming from 1448...somewhere in the parking lot maybe...
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That could offer a relief for the stress built up by the competition. |
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Just come to our booth and someone will give you a tour, it'll be worth your time, i promise.
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Thursday is in the books.
We've got several catapults, a couple of pneumatic punches, and a dumper in the field. There is even a bot or two who are focusing on defense without any ball manipuation at all. The majority of robots have a shooting wheel of some sort. Accuracy for most robots was well under 50%, but a few showed great precision. I'm sure this will improve through the weekend. Key shots were a lot more popular than fender shots inspite of the lack of defense. At least 3 robots controlled the coopertition bridge balls during autonomous. Several others are close to obtaining this feature. 4 or 5 double robot balances on the day. One robot fell over on it's face as the bridge over centered in an additional attempt. No outside the box strategies in this department to report. Several instances where balls lodged under the coopertition bridge from both sides. I'm having trouble thinking of a technique to dislodge the balls in this scenario with only a 14" appendage. At times there were so many balls on the coopertition bridge that the act of dumping them assured a few went under the bridge. Should be less of a problem as we move to full 3 on 3 matches. Match schedule is up here: http://www2.usfirst.org/2012comp/eve...eduleQual.html PS. Our drive team played all of their practice matches without vision assistance. Turns out the camera mounting system presses on the reset button. :rolleyes: Inspite of that their accuracy today was impressive. We'll give them back that vision crutch for tomorrow. :yikes: Good luck to everyone. If you're a nut or bolt short of a cool idea working, stop by our pit. |
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I watched some practice matches, the two stand-out teams for me so far were 1986 (who had a game where they scored 11 in the top basket in a row) and 525. If I'm not mistaken they double balanced once.
Fender shots seem better than key shots, especially with the lack of defense. A robot that can shoot both may encourage defence which in turn may encourage penalty points, so I can see the fender shot being a key attribute in qualis. I still can't believe that game really early on where a team gave away ~30 penalty points... |
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MMR2410/BVCAPS Robotics had an interesting day. Couple of minor failures here and there, but we're back in the game today. If our little secret goes as planned, then we should be an interesting force to be contended with. Stop by our pit in the pink division (Is that what they're called?) and check us out, and donate some cans to help BuildKC with Harvesters. Also, check us out in the stands for some intense cheering and join in with us! We'd be honored to have you with us.
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I want to give props right now to the GKC event staff. This regional is really flying through the matches. There is no real downtime. It seems like as soon as the score goes up and comes off the board, the field is nearly ready. That's great for a week 1. Keep it up, you're awesome!
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GKC seems to be the only stream that consistently works, and has pretty good quality too.
The quality of the average seems to be pretty high too, and it's nice to see people actually start using strategy (like the one team who played D by just sitting in front of the fender). |
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Awesome music and good matches the part of the webcast I caught. Hope elims tomorrow keep up the quality.
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If everything on TBA is correct, Qualifications 48: 1827 2335 3764 | 2949 1986 1987 | 0 72 is the week one high score so far. Competition here is indeed one heck of a game.
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can't wait to watch elims tomorrow i'm sure they'll kick it up a notch... there are some really good quality machines here. keep it up.
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For anyone that needs them...here are our team's scouting pics.
https://plus.google.com/photos/11522...CKX814zF1NOiUA |
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Match 16: 341 1923 1218 | 1391 4361 709 |74 16 The data is from FIRST's event page. The match results don't appear to be up on TBA yet. |
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Unfortunately we have no clue how much any of these scores have been inflated by foul points :/.
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I don't recall the 72-0 game having too many foul points - I think there was a double balance and a lot of baskets, including during autonomous.
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There's a pretty easy way to tell how many penalties there were - all the matches are on http://www.more.net/content/2012-qualification-matches. It looks like the 72-0 match had 9 foul points.
I noticed a side effect yesterday of not announcing what fouls are for - 60+ matches in and teams are still getting fouls for things like handling the balls during autonomous. That shouldn't be happening 60+ matches into a regional. |
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All 6 bots balanced in match 91. Well done Kansas City!
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Bomb squad (16) and Team Titanium (1986) make a great alliance, no doubt about that. :)
Congrats to the winning alliance! |
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congrats to the winning alliance! 1986 was a strong scorer and robot all weekend and was definitely a force throughout competition! 16 had a great, and very creative robot on a very well done swerve drive. 3784 proved to be a great partner, and the alliance had a great strategy! Well done guys, and congratulations. Enjoy your net-cutting!
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And congratulations to Team Titanium on their EI award!
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Red bridge: 3931 & 3485 Blue bridge: 2874 & 1806 Coopertition bridge: 967 & 1986 |
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What a great regional. Thanks to all of the volunteers that make FIRST a success in KC. Probably the smoothest running regional I've every been to. Amazing, especially considering it was a week 1 event.
A big thanks to 16 and 3784 for helping us win the regional. 16 has a unique way of playing the game involving bump transversal and quick ball pick-up that limited the oppositions offensive opportunities while giving us the room we needed to collect and score. 3784 was a steal with the 24th pick. In them we got 10 points of auto and 10 points on the bridge. Major props to the scouts for finding this gem of a 24th pick. Congrats to 1108 for winning their 7th Chairman's Award in 9 years. I have no doubt that some day the FIRST Hall of Fame will bear your name. See you all at Champs. |
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Its essentially winning 5k, unless you win the CA in NYC where you get 6k.;) I wonder what happens if you win it twice. I believe there was a team last year that won it twice at different regional events. 10k? |
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What's really nuts? 16, 1986, and 3784 were ONE POINT away from losing in the QUARTERFINALS. That's not one Breakaway* point either, that's after every shot taken and made in hybrid, tele, and the balances.
It was awesome. *Breakaway points are nontransferable to other games. |
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Lesson learned: Know the score. If a single balance is enough to secure the win, minimize your risk. Video is match 9 here: http://www.more.net/content/2012-fir...rfinal-matches |
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I just wanted to say congratulations to all the teams on a great 3 day event. Although I was stuck in my LEGO land Friday afternoon and Saturday morning, when I was walking through the pits and watching the matches I was amazed on how well this event ran and how the teams functioned.
I would also like to say a big thanks to team 1710. Although they did not compete this weekend they were a huge help in running the FLL area. If anyone had the time to make it over to the FLL area either Friday or Saturday I greatly welcome your thoughts and comments on how it ran. |
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I agree with Aaron, the KC Regional was a very well-run event, at least "as seen on TV". And I've been to a few. |
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There was one bit of excitement just before lunchtime on Saturday, when we saw the Head Ref and both FTAs dashing from the field to the back of the pits, to fetch a critical item from the spares case. Sparing the technical details, they solved a problem that involved multiple part failures and required the back-up scoring table bridge -- the delay of 45 minutes was recovered by pushing quickly through the last six qualifying matches (with no further troubles) and shortening lunch by 15 minutes, so eliminations and the awards ceremony ran exactly on schedule. Congratulations to the technical staff and volunteers who made it all work. I will be glad the next time I get the opportunity to come to GKC. |
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Wow! I almost feel like I know the local teams, having watched this regional on webcast for 3 hours Thursday and Friday, and 8 hours on Saturday. It seemed incredibly well run, with no major field field delays. There was a good MC, a fantastic DJ, and a great field of competitors. I tabbed away to watch Gull Lake for a little bit: Did anyone ever win the novelty size check? Congrats to 16, 3784, and 1986.
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2007 Winners: 935, 1775, 1997 (#1 Alliance) 2008 Winners: 476, 1802, 1806 (#8 Alliance) 2009 Winners: 931, 1208, 1806 (#1 Alliance) 2010 Winners: 525, 931, 2345 (#1 Alliance) 2011 Winners: 525, 1730, 1984, 3784 (#1 Alliance) 2012 Winners: 16, 1986, 3784 (#1 Alliance) No team has ever won the KC regional a third time. No team has captained the winning alliance two years in a row. Truely a very deep regional loaded with talent. PS. This was our 5th time in the elimination rounds, and first time getting past the semi-finals. In fact it is the first time we've every qualified for the Championship Event at our first event. |
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* Let's just say that no one would ever mistake me for someone that should be in the NBA, a 5th-grade recreational league, or anything in between. |
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Thank you to the GKC planning committee, volunteers and competitors for a wonderful 2012 event.
Congratulations to our alliance partners: 1986, it was such an honor to get to play alongside your outstanding team. Thank you for selecting us. 3784, wow, just wow. You made some scouts very happy - and look pretty good. Thank you! Also, congratulations to: 1108 on your 7th RCA - you are a joy to behold; 1986 for the well-deserved EI (and a dean's list finalist - what an event for your team!); 2012 GKC WFFA Peter Speer, Team Driven, 1730 - what a great addition to this elite group Special thanks to our good friends, 1806 - SWAT, for the spare parts. It's not the first time you have assisted the Bomb Squad. I guess the Bomb Squad and the SWAT team should have a natural bond. Please know how much we value your friendship and enjoy knowing you and working with your great team. |
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P.S: I was wondering if anyone from team titanium would be willing to trade T-Shirts at the St. Louis Reigonal. I would be honored if so. |
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FYI: On the shooter versus the catapult versus the other debate...
Our scouts had the following robots as the top 6 offensive scorers. (Not in rank order.) 16 - Catapult 935 - Catapult 1208 - Under wheeled shooter (hood ?) 1825 - Under wheeled hooded shooter 1986 - Under wheeled hooded shooter 3528 - Scissor lift dumper Really shocked that 1825 went so late in alliance selections. Thrilled to see it split 50:50 between wheeled shooters and other types. For those who think this game doesn't allow for variety in designs... Several other great designs that will be very dangerous at their second regional with a little tweaking. |
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I would just like to say it wasn't 3784 on the bridge with bomb squad it was team 2874 the Eagles out of Grain Valley
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I made a different thread for general improvements, but I have one question that is rather Greater Kansas City specific. As you may have noticed, our team was quite active in the spirit department, but simply got outcheered by 2996, Cougars gone Wired. They certainly deserved the award, and now our team is looking into improving for Oklahoma. Thus, I come to the teams who were also at GKC for advice on what you think our team did correctly for team spirit and what you think our team should improve upon. Thank you.
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Thanks to everybody at the event this weekend, and congrats once again to the winning Alliance. We had a blast this year, especially since we had a bunch of team firsts this year.
After getting our highest qualification ranking in our team history (10th), we were able to pick our own Alliance for the first time. We also had an organized scouting system for once this year (developed by myself), although we weren't able to properly implement it into our Alliance picks. This was my second year on the team, and as a senior, I regret not joining sooner. There were some very exciting matches on Saturday, and I don't mean solely in the Elimination matches. Does anybody recall what match had the robot nearly tip over, but got caught and corrected by its Alliance members? I remember the crowd went ballistic at that happening. We're looking to use that footage as part of a post-event meeting about teamwork, so any help would be appreciated. |
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I know that 2410 was the team that put its alliance partners back on their feet, if that helps. And they were the red alliance. Was it possibly match 82 with 2410, 1806, and 3764? Edit: yep, it was match 82, found here: http://www.more.net/content/2012-qualification-matches |
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To sum up the events that happened that lead to us getting pushed back up I can explain. I'm the coach for 1806 and it was all coordinated by me. When I saw us tip onto 3764 because of running over a ball, I quickly darted over to the drivers of 3764 and told them to push us. The driver then proceeded to say, "We don't have enough power." From there I went over to the drivers of 2410 and told them to push the back of 3764 because they don't have enough power to tip us back up. Well everyone knows the outcome. The robot just took one minor bend of our electronics cover. So good thing we had the cover because we probably would of had the corner of a robot sitting right in one of our Victors. I would like to thank the drivers of 3764 and 2410 for reacting so fast on what needed to be done to keep us in the match.
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I would like to thank all those that attended the Greater Kansas City Regional. I believe it is one of the best. It may be that I'm partial as the Co-Chair of the planning committee. The planning committee would like to hear from those that attended to see if there is anything that you would like for the committee to look at for next year to keep it one of the best. Please keep comments pertinent to the regional and items that would be possible.
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Well Brandon that’s interesting. I thought our entire alliance working to re-right SWAT was very entertaining. I guess i don’t remember Brandon saying anything to the 3764 drive team, and positive about nothing to the 2410 drive team. I talked to the other drivers on 2410 and.....they don’t remember anything either. :confused: SO I’m sorry to inform everyone that the 2410 Drive team must have been hit by a robot and gotten concussions. This is a very small detail but still this match was a highlight of the regional for me (probably because our robot had so many problems this year but that doesn’t change this "orchestrating" crap) So i guess i should still give a shout out to SWAT and their very nice robot.
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Yeah, that window screen electronics cover worked exactly as planned.
Anyway, I remember watching the rescue from the screen in the pits and walking right over to pit admin to thank 3764 and 2410. |
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For anyone wondering just how tough the KC regional was...
Regional winners 1986 and 16 each won their second regional (St. Louis and Midwest) as #1 seeds. 30th Ranked 2996 just won Colorado as the #1 seed. 1985 just won a regional as the top draft selection and claimed a Regional Chairman's award. In addition each of the following KC regional attendees have won the engineering inspiration award this year!
Special congrats to 1710 for winning the Regional Chairman's Award in Chicago. We missed you this year at KC, but you are definetly a part of the KC robotics culture. |
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Add another KC team with the Engineering Inspiration award for this year.
Team 2164 Harrisonville, Mo won EI at Dallas West |
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Adding on a few more:
By my count, that's 13 teams from KC that have a ticket to St. Louis, and there's still another week of competitions left. |
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Teams for the Greater Kansas City Regional who have qualified for champs.
1986 (#1 seed in KC, regional winner and Engineering Inspiration. #1 seed in St. Louis and regional winner.) 3528 (#2 seed in KC and semifinalist. #1 seed in Oklahoma and regional winner.) 935(#3 seed in KC and finalist. #1 seed at Dallas West and regional winner) 16 (#4 seed in KC and regional winner. #1 seed at Midwest and regional winner, #1 seed at Dallas East and regional winner) 1208(#5 seed in KC and finalist. #2 seed in St. Louis and finalist. At large bid for Champs.) 2949 (#6 seed in KC and quarterfinalist. #3 seed at Midwest, quarterfinalist and Engineering Inspiration.) 1987 (#9 seed in KC and seminfalist. #5 seed in St. Louis, semifinalist and Engineering Inspiration.) 525(#16 seed in KC and semifinalist. #13 seed at 10,000 Lakes and regional winner) 1985 (#18 seed in KC and quarterfinalist, #6 seed in St. Louis, regional winner and Regional Chairman's Award.) 1108(#28 seed in KC and Regional Chairman's Award)7th Chairman's Award in last 9 years! 2996 (#30 seed in KC. #1 seed in Colorado and regional winner.) 3784 (#34 seed in KC and regional winner.) 3931 (#38 seed in KC and Rooke All Star. #41 seed in Oklahoma and Rookie All Star.) 2395 (#53 seed in KC. #21 seed in Oklahoma and regional winner.) 1764 (#54 seed in KC. #15 seed in Colorado, semifinalists and Engineering Inspiration.) 2164 (#58 seed in KC. #2 seed at Dallas West, semifinalist, and Engineering Inspiration) 2410 (#60 seed in KC. #19 seed in Oklahoma and quarterfinalist. At large bid for Champs.) Over 1/4th of the field is heading to Champs! :cool: Let's make some noise when we get there! :D PS. Teams who may yet qualify in week 6 1730 (#8 seed in KC. Playing at Queen City Regional. We'll be cheering for ya. ;) ) |
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