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Peyton Yeung 07-02-2012 22:15

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its da PAT!!! (Post 1122042)
Please tell me what a 5 bar shooter is?

It's what they did in 2006. 5 roller bars to shoot balls.

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its da PAT!!! 07-02-2012 22:56

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
See that makes since you were missing a word. lol:cool:

JamesCH95 08-02-2012 06:36

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubatroopa (Post 1122037)
Is that another 5 bar shooter? Looks good.

Yes it is, and thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laaba 80 (Post 1121872)
cool idea. How well do the balls go from the top of the robot into the tower while the robot is moving?

Gravity, so far. We're considering other options and possibly adding another roller or guide as we test. We've increased the slope of the 'funnel' as of last night and it has worked pretty well so far.

TerryS 13-02-2012 17:26

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
Innovative way to pick balls up. Have you considered what will happen to your mechanism if you have a head on collision as you and your opponent race to pick up the same ball? Looks like it's pretty beefy so my guess is that your mechanism will survive. I might be more concerned that your roller jumps over the opponent's bumper and damages something on their robot. Per rule [G27] you could be penalized or yellow carded regardless of your intent.
[G27]
Deliberate or damaging contact with an opponent Robot on or inside its Frame Perimeter is not allowed. Violation: Technical-Foul and potential Yellow Card
High speed accidental collisions may occur during the Match and are an expected part of the game. Robots place mechanisms outside of the Frame Perimeter at their own risk; no penalties will be assigned for contact between two such extended mechanisms.

A Robot with a mechanism outside of its Frame Perimeter may be penalized under this rule if it appears they are using that mechanism to purposefully contact another Robot inside its Frame Perimeter. Regardless of intent, a Robot with a mechanism outside its Frame Perimeter that causes damage to another Robot inside of its Frame Perimeter will be penalized.

Repeated or egregious violations of this rule will earn the offending Robot a Yellow Card.
I guess you can avoid this situation with careful driving.

JesseK 13-02-2012 20:03

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
Terry has a good point. But man, the car wash mechanism isn't anywhere in the realm of stuff we thought of. It's kind of like 45's ball intake from the late 90's, where a spinning roller spat a ball vertically into a catcher net, which then fed it to the conveyor. If you can't find a better way to funnel while driving, maybe a net will help.

JamesCH95 13-02-2012 23:15

Re: FRC 95 Week 4 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryS (Post 1125895)
Innovative way to pick balls up. Have you considered what will happen to your mechanism if you have a head on collision as you and your opponent race to pick up the same ball? Looks like it's pretty beefy so my guess is that your mechanism will survive. I might be more concerned that your roller jumps over the opponent's bumper and damages something on their robot. Per rule [G27] you could be penalized or yellow carded regardless of your intent.
[G27]
Deliberate or damaging contact with an opponent Robot on or inside its Frame Perimeter is not allowed. Violation: Technical-Foul and potential Yellow Card
High speed accidental collisions may occur during the Match and are an expected part of the game. Robots place mechanisms outside of the Frame Perimeter at their own risk; no penalties will be assigned for contact between two such extended mechanisms.

A Robot with a mechanism outside of its Frame Perimeter may be penalized under this rule if it appears they are using that mechanism to purposefully contact another Robot inside its Frame Perimeter. Regardless of intent, a Robot with a mechanism outside its Frame Perimeter that causes damage to another Robot inside of its Frame Perimeter will be penalized.

Repeated or egregious violations of this rule will earn the offending Robot a Yellow Card.
I guess you can avoid this situation with careful driving.

Thanks.

We have considered what sort of hits front rollers can survive, and it might bend, but we'll bend it back.

The side plates on the carwash are designed to cradle the lowest possible bumper configuration, so protrusion into a legally-bumper'd robot should be a non-issue. We plan on driving very carefully also, of course.

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1125992)
Terry has a good point. But man, the car wash mechanism isn't anywhere in the realm of stuff we thought of. It's kind of like 45's ball intake from the late 90's, where a spinning roller spat a ball vertically into a catcher net, which then fed it to the conveyor. If you can't find a better way to funnel while driving, maybe a net will help.

Just put a net on tonight! In addition to a better 'funnel' geometry to guide the balls into the base of the tower. We are still considering a secondary roller to help push everything into the tower.


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