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mega900997 07-02-2012 16:33

How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Hello,
So far, our team has been able to construct a mechanism to push the bridge down. We were planning on going over the bump as well, we have the mechanism in mind for it as well and we have the parts for it. What are your ideas on getting over the bump? And is it, or is it better to just stick with the bridge?

Nick Lawrence 07-02-2012 16:38

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mega900997 (Post 1121798)
Hello,
So far, our team has been able to construct a mechanism to push the bridge down. We were planning on going over the bump as well, but we don't know how to tackle it. What are your ideas?

I hate to burst your bubble, but I think this is a decision that should have been made weeks ago.

However, I think lots of teams are using pneumatic tires, or having wheel spacing geometry that lets them float over it.

-Nick

wilhitern1 07-02-2012 16:43

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
We are using tank treads, but there are still some question marks that make us unsure that we will succeed.

Jakal1391 07-02-2012 16:46

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Three words. Eight-wheel-Drive!

dellagd 07-02-2012 16:52

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Pneumatic tires

SteveGPage 07-02-2012 16:57

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
As mentioned above, if you haven't already built this into your design, you are probably not going to be able to do so this late into the design and build season.

My suggestion is to use what you have, instead of going over the center barrier, use your ability to cross the bridge instead. Make sure that works flawlessly, so you can cross from one side of the field to the other, as needed, plus have the ability to balance on the bridge at the end.

mrlg220 07-02-2012 17:02

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Pretty much, the chassis and bumpers should be high enough so the robot doesn't get completely stuck. Your wheels should be large enough in diameter as well (8" + is good)and/or you can add a skid plate or casters to lift up and push the front over. Your CG should be low to avoid tipping over while crossing.

CAmech910 07-02-2012 17:20

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
We are using a 4 tires system in which the 2 far tires are bigger than the either 2. We have 8 tires in all. Hope this helps

Tanx 3003

Duke461 07-02-2012 17:33

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
I hate to burst the Bubble Burster's bubble, but it is most certainly not too late to tackle this challenge. Not that i recommend waiting until now, but hey, SHIFT happens, and sometimes it becomes a week 4-5 matter.
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Now to solve the real problem.
Here's some solutions:
  • Pneumatic Tires/Wheels
  • *Other Pneumatic like tires, such as Bead-LOK wheels from Skyway
  • Use a relatively sturdy wheel with a diameter that is > 8 in.
  • Use some kind of delrin angle like, passive device to maneuver the bump more easily
  • Deal with going over the bump once per match, and become a feeder bot. This really isn't too bad of a strategy if executed properly.

I hope this helps!
Good Luck this season!
-Duke

*Someone please use these someday, it'd be soooo cool :D

nssheepster 07-02-2012 18:35

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Well-designed suspension systems could raise up your 'bot to, as formerly put, "float over it". Shocks would be difficult, but in the past, we've used six wheels, on a swiveling mechanism that approximates that effect.

Mr V 07-02-2012 19:10

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
With our Mult-tool

http://tahomarobotics.org/2012/02/02...bump-part-two/

LinuxArchitect 10-02-2012 12:58

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 1121801)
I hate to burst your bubble, but I think this is a decision that should have been made weeks ago.

-Nick

Yes, but it is never too late to redesign, especially something that isn't working just quite right. If you can move, focus on scoring. But if you can score, then now is a good time to look for other areas to improve such as better movement capabilities.

Aren Siekmeier 10-02-2012 13:29

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakal1391 (Post 1121810)
Three words. Eight-wheel-Drive!

2 too few!

We have a mechanism that works for both. It pushes the bridge down, as well as our robot up when we cross the bump. And a little bit of linkage magic to minimize the work required by the robot (it just drives).

Tom I 10-02-2012 13:37

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
My team opted for an arm of sorts (picture 2 arms connected so it's "one appendage" per the rules). This manipulator can lower the ramp, raise it for an alliance partner on the other side (or for an opponent for the final shared balance), and actually lift our front end to get our frame over the barrier, where the 6 wheel drive takes it. The arm has roller wheels (3" diam) to allow us to roll on the arm with it touching the ground. We also have a type of skid plate to prevent the bot from bottoming out on the barrier.

legogeek24 10-02-2012 14:16

Re: How are you getting over the 4" bump?
 
We're going with two pneumatic wheels and an angled chassis to launch over the bump. It's going to be super cool to watch and hopefully very effective!


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