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This is somewhat unrelated to the shooter aspect, and probably too late to change, but have you considered a banebot 775 and a cimsim? I assume that if you allocated a cim to the shooter, than you are only using 2 in the drivetrain, unless you did a 3 cim drive (Which I would love to see the logistics of such). This year, you may run into some issues with being pushed out of the way. Does your turret turn and aim itself? I heard something at the beginning about retroreflective, but I wasn't sure if that meant an aiming system is in place.

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Wow. This is hilarious. We just installed a CIM-U-LATOR on it today! We have 4 cims on our base, so that was a must.

In the beginning, the other programmer was joking about how the basketball backboard isnt retroreflective! It has camera automation with a turret turning system

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We use 2 775's through CIM-U-LATORs for our shooter, and it works beautifully. They haven't caused a single problem, and allow us to use the 4 CIMs on our drive train (something you will be SO GLAD you did later on at the competition).

That's an awesome shooter, with awesome range! I can't wait to see it in (a) regional(s)!

A little tip from another team using 775's through CIM-U-LATORs: Don't ever run them at 100% power. Just to ensure they won't break like the dozens of other ones. I know the other ones didn't break this way, but you certainly don't want a broken 775 at the start of week 6.

Hope this helps, and good luck this year!

p.s: Don't be afraid to show your designs. The worst that will happen is we tell you how to make it better. It's against Gracious Professionalism to entirely steal someone's design without their consent (having it influence your design, however, is completely legal), so I doubt any team will be scrutinizing over your video to find out how you made your shooter.

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Well thankyou. That certainly means a lot coming from 256 (I'd say something else but youre not a programmer, so youd probably not get it, then it'd be all awkward)!

Did the 100% thing come from personal experience?

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Yes, the 100% thing broke one of our 775's after a while, and the second one smoked, but still worked. Something like 85% should be good.

And thanks for referring to 256 like that! I didn't think we were that kind of team publicly. :) I'm not the main programmer on the team, but I do know a bit.

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Oh, then I am jealous of your team number because it is one of the results of base 2 exponential combos, and therefore MB values of older flash drives (e.g. 2, 4, 8 ,16 .... 128, 256)


:D :D :D :D


All I know is that I see some good things coming out of your team on this forum I call home :)

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That is something we always love to reference on our team, and makes it very easy to find our team number in real life, especially since some of the people on the team are the TSGs (people in charge of technology) at our school. :D

2^8, 4^4, 16^2, we're full of them!

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Wow. That must make web filters nice to work with :(

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Extremely. But, we love having the number.

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Our web filter block national instruments' site

:facepalm:

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It is?

Honestly, I'm a little surprised so many people are criticizing a team's decision to not show their robot. It is their decision to share or not share their robot. Their original decision not to share is one that is quite popular in the community. (In fact, far more team don't share than do). I don't think I've seen any elite team share their designs so far this year.

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Now I feel a bit better, though I do see how it doesnt matter that much in week 6!

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It's against GP to use someone's design they were unsure about showing without their permission. If a person shows their design after blocking it out, so that people could help them, then I think it would be wrong to steal from them.

I agree there's no need to show everyone everything about your robot, and it's fine to keep it to yourself, but it's week 6 now, and like I said earlier, the worst thing that will happen is someone will help your better your design.

This is Chief Delphi. We're not here to get a one-up over everyone, we're here to help people, share designs/ideas, and listen to Car Nack.

Exactly. While it is true you need to keep some of your ideas to your self, it is week 6 (in 4 hours here), and I doubt you'll need to hide anything now. From what I see, people have already began helping you further refine your design, and nobody (I can almost assure you) will steal your design based off of this video. Some people may have SIMILAR designs based off of their own doings, but I highly doubt anyone is going to look at this video and try copying it, especially this late in the season.

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In my opinion, by sharing your design in public, you essentially give everyone permission to 'steal' your design. You can't really tell people "Look at our robot, tell me how to improve it but please don't copy it". If my team showed our robot right now, I wouldn't hold it against any team that copied our design, because we knew the risks and benifits involved with sharing our design. If anything, I'd take it as a huge compliment if a team stole our design.

Well, the worst thing that could happen is teams copy your design and take away your advantage. I know atleast 3-4 teams in Michigan that added deflectors after seeing 469 in 2010. Imagine what the number would be if they posted their robot a week before ship day.

My whole point is that its not right to question a team's (very common) decision and pressure them into showing their robot.

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I agree, it's not right to pressure anyone into showing their robot, and dellagd, I apologize id anyone on this thread, myself included, pressured you into sharing something you didn't want to (People on CD tend to get excited about robots).

As for the bolded above, my only answer is yes, you can. You can say here is our design, we worked hard on it, please don't steal it. While some people may not listen, IMO it's the respectful thing to do. If you post it online it is at your own risk, and like you said, if people do end up copying from your video, then you should feel complimented. On that, I will say you couldn't get too much design specifications from the video, so I don't think anything will get stolen.

BTW, that was a very nice example you made of 469's robot in 2010. Having been in Debate Class all through middle school, I appreciate a good and hard hitting example, and you hit the nail on the head.