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nikeairmancurry 18-02-2012 00:00

3 Balls in a second and a half
 
Team 326 having fun testing.

No full pics or videos yet, but here's a taste of this years robot starting with our turret design, doing some 360's.

http://youtu.be/Yg-sjXOvCvw

Next, we have a two videos of test shooting from the middle of the key. Yes we are on wrestling mats, the cheerleading squad uses the room where we have our hoop, bridge and ball return. We really didn't feel like moving the mats.

http://youtu.be/7wAI1Q3pU_E

http://youtu.be/k3Yjbh7YZ28

These were rough tests, and the third video is more of the spacing in shots we are looking for.

Questions? Comments?

Kevin Sevcik 18-02-2012 00:01

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Comment: Your links are.. erm... were broken.

AlecMataloni 18-02-2012 00:01

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It might just be me, but none of these videos seem to work. :(

R1ffSurf3r 18-02-2012 00:05

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try it on an iphone if you can. that works

nikeairmancurry 18-02-2012 00:07

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Fixed! Screw-up on my part..

bladetech932 18-02-2012 00:18

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shiny!:ahh: :D :ahh:
very nice fabrication on the shooter! very smooth shooting!

JoshSmith 18-02-2012 00:32

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Man that shooter is nice. What is the weight of the the whole assembly with the motors? Seems like it would be on the heavier side of things...

nikeairmancurry 18-02-2012 00:40

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Originally Posted by JoshSmith (Post 1129263)
Man that shooter is nice. What is the weight of the the whole assembly with the motors? Seems like it would be on the heavier side of things...

After cutting out some weight its about 15 lbs... Yes heavy, but very effective so far...

Cory 18-02-2012 00:42

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Very cool.

The competition field has the bottom of the net zip tied to the chute. This severely constricts the bottom opening and causes two balls coming in simultaneously, or near simultaneously (like in your video) to get completely jammed.

You may already be aware of this. Just a heads up.

G33K 18-02-2012 00:43

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How are you managing the wires between the turret and frame? Nice fabrication on the shooter, by the way, sounds AND looks nice and smooth

nikeairmancurry 18-02-2012 00:51

Re: 3 Balls in a second and a half
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1129278)
Very cool.

The competition field has the bottom of the net zip tied to the chute. This severely constricts the bottom opening and causes two balls coming in simultaneously, or near simultaneously (like in your video) to get completely jammed.

You may already be aware of this. Just a heads up.

Yes we are.. As I said these are rough tests and we are looking for better spacing of the balls being shot.

Quote:

How are you managing the wires between the turret and frame? Nice fabrication on the shooter, by the way, sounds AND looks nice and smooth
It's not going to be doing the full 360's, it was just for fun. We will mainly be using about only 180 degrees of it at most.

Walter Deitzler 18-02-2012 13:00

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Is your shooter wheel direct driven by two BB RS775s? I didn't see any gearing in the video.

Ether 18-02-2012 13:18

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Where did you get the rollers?


NeatTeam 18-02-2012 16:29

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OH My..........................................!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so LEGEN ----------- wait for it --------------- DARY!

ratdude747 18-02-2012 16:57

Re: 3 Balls in a second and a half
 
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Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1129524)


Where did you get the rollers?


they look custom, probably lathed.

Ether 18-02-2012 17:27

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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1129659)
they look custom, probably lathed.

Ya think? :) I wonder what they cost.



Manoel 18-02-2012 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1129677)
Ya think? :) I wonder what they cost.



One mighty flywheel! Under some assumptions¹, I would say the largest roller takes about 6 seconds to spin up to full speed! Am I correct in my assumptions?


¹ - Dual RS775-18 motors directly coupled to the solid aluminum roller, approximately 100 mm wide and 100 mm in diameter with an 85 mm radius, giving a moment of inertia around its rotation axis of ~1067746.85 g-mm². Negligible frictional losses.

jason701802 18-02-2012 18:43

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How much do each of the rollers weigh by themselves?

Pun-isher 18-02-2012 19:26

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Looks fairly heavy considering how high it will be mounted, but very solid shooter.

The speed may be slightly overkill, maybe 2 seconds for all three balls but that's just me.

nikeairmancurry 18-02-2012 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1129512)
Is your shooter wheel direct driven by two BB RS775s? I didn't see any gearing in the video.

It is direct driven. The reason we went with this was because we had success with a similar design in 2006.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel (Post 1129695)
One mighty flywheel! Under some assumptions¹, I would say the largest roller takes about 6 seconds to spin up to full speed! Am I correct in my assumptions?

¹ - Dual RS775-18 motors directly coupled to the solid aluminum roller, approximately 100 mm wide and 100 mm in diameter with an 85 mm radius, giving a moment of inertia around its rotation axis of ~1067746.85 g-mm². Negligible frictional losses.

Very close, around 7 seconds was where we thought, but while its ramping up, we have plans to occupy the time.

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Originally Posted by Pun-isher (Post 1129743)
Looks fairly heavy considering how high it will be mounted, but very solid shooter.

The speed may be slightly overkill, maybe 2 seconds for all three balls but that's just me.

Slow motion video had it 1.5 secs, but its a rough estimate. Again its not a final interval we want, it was just something that happened during testing.

For those asking about the rollers, they are custom made on a lathe. :D

372 lives on 19-02-2012 03:39

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so shiny i am jealous...

Basel A 19-02-2012 08:21

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Epic! Reminds me a bit of the best dumpers of '09. I definitely like the aluminium rollers; you're not losing much speed as the balls come out. As for the spacing, it certainly makes sense to slow it down when you're in the key, but if you're in some other area of the field playing against defence, make sure you have the spewing ability! Unless you're a key-shooter, that is.

RedLeader342 19-02-2012 08:26

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this is awesome sauce..

JamesCH95 19-02-2012 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1129274)
After cutting out some weight its about 15 lbs... Yes heavy, but very effective so far...

Yikes, that is heavy. Is the robot unstable to drive or balance on the bridge?

nikeairmancurry 19-02-2012 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1130077)
Yikes, that is heavy. Is the robot unstable to drive or balance on the bridge?

Nope, its reinforced very nicely...

JamesCH95 19-02-2012 11:01

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Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1130082)
Nope, its reinforced very nicely...

Not structurally unstable, but dynamically unstable. 15lbs is a lot of mass to have so far off the ground.

What speed(s) are you geared for in the drive train?


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