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AlexD744 05-04-2012 21:54

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
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Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1154737)
Since the thread is revived, a clarification on the answer to the original question... As Inspector at 10K Lakes, I worked with a team that built a bridge tipper very simply. It was simply a standard wedge arm on a pivot, that was held just past vertical by gravity. A little movement of the robot, and it fell forward. A gate latch kept it down once it fell. No motor, no pneumatics, just the simplest of simple machines.

I never actually saw it in action, but I heard it worked marvelously well. I hope no one ran into it though....

Gate latches work wonderfully for tipping the bridge. That is unless you wish to retract your manipulator. We had latches, and after the system was broken in, it got to the point where it became nearly impossible to retract the ramp lowerer (costing us a finals match, and possibly a regional win). At our last event we ended up scrapping the latches and the power of the Van Door motor was enough to get the ramp down.

loyal 13-04-2012 18:50

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
So our team 4055 has an arm that has worked flawlessly. It is legal. If we added a stinger to the arm that was on a pivot and a solenoid released it then it gravity dropped. Is it now two appendages? Like this, we go up the bridge and drive to the edge, the arm comes down and is extended straight out, the solenoid releases the gravity pivot stinger. Would that be legal?

CalTran 13-04-2012 18:57

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
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Originally Posted by loyal (Post 1157616)
So our team 4055 has an arm that has worked flawlessly. It is legal. If we added a stinger to the arm that was on a pivot and a solenoid released it then it gravity dropped. Is it now two appendages? Like this, we go up the bridge and drive to the edge, the arm comes down and is extended straight out, the solenoid releases the gravity pivot stinger. Would that be legal?

If it forks outside of the bumper perimeter then it is still one appendage. From what I've been able to see on webcasts, that's about the same as most other stingers

EricH 13-04-2012 19:01

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
I'd be cautious with that gravity drop. Gravity is exceptionally reliable at dropping things, but not too great at pulling them back up. You should make sure that you have a way to pull up the stinger once you're balanced, without grabbing or grasping the bridge. Otherwise, no balance points.

loyal 13-04-2012 22:23

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1157620)
I'd be cautious with that gravity drop. Gravity is exceptionally reliable at dropping things, but not too great at pulling them back up. You should make sure that you have a way to pull up the stinger once you're balanced, without grabbing or grasping the bridge. Otherwise, no balance points.

In order to pull up the stinger we will be able to just lift up the arm and the stinger will rise also. As long as it doesn't effect the balance it should work. I think?:cool: We are gonna find out before Saint Louis.

EricH 13-04-2012 22:42

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
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Originally Posted by loyal (Post 1157714)
In order to pull up the stinger we will be able to just lift up the arm and the stinger will rise also. As long as it doesn't effect the balance it should work. I think?:cool: We are gonna find out before Saint Louis.

It should work... but how are you going to find out before St. Louis? (If that "finding out" involves unbagging the competition robot, you're going to have some trouble with inspection.)

loyal 14-04-2012 07:19

Re: 14 inch protrusion beyond frame
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1157727)
It should work... but how are you going to find out before St. Louis? (If that "finding out" involves unbagging the competition robot, you're going to have some trouble with inspection.)

We will make and fit it to our test bot.(should mention we have a test bot) Completely disassemble it. Bring it with us as our 30 lbs. Unbag the bot. Install stinger on arm. Then have it inspected. Good plan or bad plan?

rsisk 14-04-2012 10:53

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Good plan ;>


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