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Gregor 22-02-2012 00:30

Is this Legal?
 
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Hi there,

Team 907 is a bit behind and is looking into drastic measures to complete our robot. We were wondering, is this legal?

-Gregor

Andrew Lawrence 22-02-2012 00:32

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If the person weighs less than 120 pounds, than maybe. :)

In all seriousness, I'd say no. The point is to stop building at Midnight, not just to have it bagged and tagged.

Jon Stratis 22-02-2012 00:38

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You know, back before Bag and Tag we tried to ship a student in the crate along with the robot... We even almost made it under the weight limit! It definitely helped that she could stand up inside the crate with room to spare.

MathMaven 22-02-2012 00:38

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Quote:

5.2. Stop Build Day

All teams must cease work on their robot on or before Stop Build Day [emphasis mine]. Any team that fails to comply may jeopardize their participation in the rest of the FRC season.
I don't think it can be any clearer.::rtm::

Wayne TenBrink 22-02-2012 00:44

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Isn't that a violation of the warning on the plastic bag - the one that says it isn't a toy and should be kept away from children??

Bill_B 22-02-2012 00:46

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I don't think there is a limit on the bagged content regarding weight or biology that is imposed by FIRST. The bags are big, but putting a machine shop inside would be a literal stretch. Then there's the support of your contained crew. NASA may have some hints about that. They would certainly be interested in a device that enables long-term bag habitation, even if it was not part of an actual FIRST robot. Feeding and breathing through small tubes that could pass through the bag's "neck" gather under the seal ziptie would also be a large turn off. Dr. Flush (of Hamilton Sunstrand) would also have some commentary about the most frequent question concerning space station life.

Cute idea for a picture though. I'm already trying to think of a caption for it in case it makes it to a contest. :D

Jared Russell 22-02-2012 00:46

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Air holes are strictly forbidden.

dr. fragger 22-02-2012 00:47

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I registered just to say this:

@MathMaven: If you honestly think that stuffing a student into a bag is reasonable and our best way forward, then you'd better get your head checked. Sorry, I guess some people just don't get jokes.

In any event, while there are teams out there who do not observe the 'wrenches down' rule, our 'bot is bagged, tagged, and ready to go. Best of luck to everyone this year! I'm looking forward to the competitions.

dr. fragger 22-02-2012 00:57

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1132276)
Cute idea for a picture though. I'm already trying to think of a caption for it in case it makes it to a contest. :D

I was thinking 'We're outta time! I'm going in... see you guys at GTR!'


:D

TiggerGTO 22-02-2012 07:30

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We discussed putting all the students in the bag and keeping the robot out. Work would be stopped. Same effect, right?

AquaMorph 22-02-2012 10:09

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1132277)
Air holes are strictly forbidden.

I think an oxygen tank would fix that problem

FrankJ 22-02-2012 10:30

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We tried something similar. We are using KOP fans to keep the student ventilated. Nice to finally to find something to do with them. The problem is we forgot to put food in with him. Is it legal to unseal the bag to put food in? Maybe on humanitarian grounds?

Bill_B 22-02-2012 11:02

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Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1132491)
We tried something similar. We are using KOP fans to keep the student ventilated. Nice to finally to find something to do with them. The problem is we forgot to put food in with him. Is it legal to unseal the bag to put food in? Maybe on humanitarian grounds?

Stop the fans for a bit and squeeze some PBJ thru the blades. Be careful starting the fans again.

Jon Stratis 22-02-2012 11:43

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1132518)
Stop the fans for a bit and squeeze some PBJ thru the blades. Be careful starting the fans again.

Sounds messy. Go with an all-liquid diet, as though they had just had their wisdom teeth pulled - you can run a straw through the fans when they're off.

nitneylion452 22-02-2012 12:02

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Am I the only one who thought of what that bag will look and smell like after however long it is until your competition?:ahh:

EDIT: Think about it. There are some things nobody could go without doing...

FrankJ 22-02-2012 12:06

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Never mind. His mom just ripped the bag open. Something about missing too much school to work on the @#$@#@$!$#@$ robot. Learned some new words today. Plus she suggested something I don't think is physically possible to do with a robot. Anyway is duct tape legal to seal the bag back up?

Jon Stratis 22-02-2012 12:11

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Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1132563)
Never mind. His mom just ripped the bag open. Something about missing too much school to work on the @#$@#@$!$#@$ robot. Learned some new words today. Plus she suggested something I don't think is physically possible to do with a robot. Anyway is duct tape legal to seal the bag back up?

I think you need to stick a second student in there so the bag can be sealed up from the inside. Otherwise the inspectors might think you were trying to cheat!

crowder15 22-02-2012 12:14

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omg i cant believe this was actually posted this ! good times !

crowder15 22-02-2012 12:16

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lol last night was awesome!!! cant wait to do it again next year

Natatatalies 22-02-2012 16:19

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Originally Posted by nitneylion452 (Post 1132559)
Am I the only one who thought of what that bag will look and smell like after however long it is until your competition?:ahh:

EDIT: Think about it. There are some things nobody could go without doing...

Haha, yeah, we took that into consideration. But don't worry our buddy there is safe and sound.

907eyci 22-02-2012 21:20

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y did i put you guys up to this , it's funny but people took it a bit to far lol

MAldridge 22-02-2012 22:00

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when traveling to a competition, it is important to take with you your bagged robot, driver, assorted tools, and camera

akcender 23-02-2012 20:59

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I think a few people took this a bit too seriously

Natatatalies 24-02-2012 17:20

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Originally Posted by akcender (Post 1133748)
I think a few people took this a bit too seriously

Honestly! :yikes:

Sean Raia 24-02-2012 17:28

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Originally Posted by akcender (Post 1133748)
I think a few people took this a bit too seriously

Welcome to Chief Delphi.
It's threads like these that keep the atmosphere of this bulletin upbeat, IMO.

Josh N. 24-02-2012 18:17

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Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.

Grim Tuesday 24-02-2012 19:12

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Originally Posted by Josh N. (Post 1134326)
Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.

This is completely 100% serious.

EricH 24-02-2012 19:14

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We at the CD site have no sense of humor that we are aware of. May we come in?



Bonus if you get the reference.

Natatatalies 24-02-2012 21:18

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1134350)
This is completely 100% serious.

Really? Because when we posted this we were 100% joking. We just wanted to lighten up the most stressful day of the season.

EricH 24-02-2012 21:30

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Originally Posted by Natatatalies (Post 1134400)
Really? Because when we posted this we were 100% joking. We just wanted to lighten up the most stressful day of the season.

Sarcasm is one of the hardest things to convey by text. I saw it, but it's entirely possible to take that post at face value.

vraimondi94 24-02-2012 21:36

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lol totally just make sure you have a straw so that you could breath.

Thad House 24-02-2012 21:40

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<sarcasm>everyone should just put sarcasm hash tags around their posts...</sarcasm>

John 24-02-2012 21:42

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Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh N.
Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.
This is completely 100% serious.
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1134409)
Sarcasm is one of the hardest things to convey by text. I saw it, but it's entirely possible to take that post at face value.

I think Grim Tuesday was being sarcastic when he said it was serious (I could easily be wrong though). This thread is getting very confusing...

Rogue Leader 24-02-2012 22:08

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I can't tell if I feel bad for the robot, the kid, or both. XD

*ahem* Anyways, that's not legal. Putting a kid in a bag with a robot is not allowed by the FRC Manual, or by law.

Grim Tuesday 24-02-2012 23:33

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Originally Posted by John (Post 1134418)
I think Grim Tuesday was being sarcastic when he said it was serious (I could easily be wrong though). This thread is getting very confusing...

I was being very sarcastic (I'm not now, though).

Sean Raia 24-02-2012 23:58

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Sometimes the fun of sarcasm is seeing how many people actually thought you were serious.

Bill_B 25-02-2012 00:30

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Originally Posted by sst.thad (Post 1134416)
<sarcasm>everyone should just put sarcasm hash tags around their posts...</sarcasm>

:rolleyes: Don't we have smilie for that? :rolleyes: :eek:

PAR_WIG1350 25-02-2012 17:28

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1134522)
:rolleyes: Don't we have smilie for that? :rolleyes: :eek:

The sarcasm emoticon has always looked more like a thinking emoticon to me. I think ;) would work much better to indicate sarcasm.

frasnow 25-02-2012 20:22

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Originally Posted by Gregor01 (Post 1132263)
Hi there,

Team 907 is a bit behind and is looking into drastic measures to complete our robot. We were wondering, is this legal?

-Gregor

If that's you, the picture should become your avatar. Or it should become someone's avatar. It's hilarious.

Gregor 01-03-2012 16:06

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Originally Posted by frasnow (Post 1134838)
If that's you, the picture should become your avatar. Or it should become someone's avatar. It's hilarious.

:ahh: It isn't me in the picture, but I promise you that he has seen your comment, and plans on it. :yikes:

gracie. 01-03-2012 19:06

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haha our plan z is always attaching the shortest team member to the robot!

dictionaria13 01-03-2012 19:17

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XD It's too bad both of the freshmen on our team are too big...

Gregor 04-03-2012 12:47

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Originally Posted by gracie. (Post 1137366)
haha our plan z is always attaching the shortest team member to the robot!

That idea got thrown around all throughout build season. "Hey if the robot doesn't work stick him in a box with a hole on top to throw basketballs."

Moros 05-03-2012 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor01 (Post 1138655)
That idea got thrown around all throughout build season. "Hey if the robot doesn't work stick him in a box with a hole on top to throw basketballs."

Our original robot design involved Shaq, duct tape, and the KOP drivetrain.


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