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stundt1 26-02-2012 16:49

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This sucks I wont be getting any more rubber chickens to add to my collection this year:(


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Thanks for getting Devil Tech up there Steve.
any time I was scouting on websites anyways :)
Awesome robot maybe we can work together like we did at the Ruckus :)



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What kind of a drivetrain is that!? It looks like swerve with the long belt runs, but there's a Cim on the shooter and I'm just all kinds of confused. Can't wait to see that beast in person.
It looks like some type of swerve to me. I second that I cant wait to see their robot :)

Sean Raia 26-02-2012 17:33

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135221)
This sucks I wont be getting any more rubber chickens to add to my collection this year:(

I too noticed that they weren't attending this year, sad indeed. They always raised the bar of competition at FLR.

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135221)
Awesome robot maybe we can work together like we did at the Ruckus :)

:) Thanks! Maybe we will!

Tetraman 26-02-2012 17:40

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On our drive train - it has been designed over the past year by mentors and students, and machined and built by the students this entire build season. I personally do not know much of it, however the students are excited to show it off and answer all of your questions. It really is a beauty to behold.

commodoredl 26-02-2012 18:50

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135221)
Also Correction there is more than 1 canadian team attending the regional. There is team 843 and team 174.

Actually, 174 is from Liverpool, NY. There is one Canadian team and there are two teams from Ohio coming to FLR. The rest are New Yorkers!

My guess is that 174 put together a swerve with a custom gearbox, similar to what 118 did back in 2007. Maybe a 3 CIM, 1 or 2 FP gearbox running a coaxial swerve?
I can see at least one FP motor elsewhere on the robot, so I don't know what is running the drive, but I'm guessing it's handled with a central gearbox.

stundt1 26-02-2012 19:46

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Whoops was thinking of 188. But they aren't coming this year.

pfreivald 27-02-2012 19:14

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We finished our unveil video a little late... I dropped it in the Robot Showcase, but I figure here's a good place, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrM2GlbGOBQ

(Oh, and at about 2:20 you can see the Warlocks bank three in a row in teleop!)

stundt1 27-02-2012 19:51

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Looks good 1551. So when you go over the bump do you use the mechs?
Also when will you you use the plaction wheels? For pushing?

I want to investigate your robot more at FLR. Curious.

pfreivald 27-02-2012 19:56

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135783)
Looks good 1551. So when you go over the bump do you use the mechs?

We use both the performance (not plaction) and the mechs when going over the barrier.

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135783)
Also when will you you use the plaction wheels? For pushing?

A. Pushing matches (assuming they come up, which they usually do).
B. Bridge traction -- we *can* balance with the mecanum wheels, but the lower speed, higher traction drive is great for easier balancing -- it also allows us to park in place (sideways or longways) and let our alliance partners balance with us as dead weight if that's easier for them.

stundt1 27-02-2012 20:16

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Excuse my stupidness when it comes to drive trains. :)

Also, if they would use you as a dead weight wouldn't you use the mechs?
Then you could turn easily and go sideways.
And it would be easy for them to push you if needed.

But I don't know how well the mechs will actually grip the actual material on the bridges because its very slippery.

pfreivald 27-02-2012 20:19

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135804)
Also, if they would use you as a dead weight wouldn't you use the mechs?

That depends. If they want to be able to push us, we can use the mechs. If they want us to stay still while they move back and forth to balance, we can do that, too.

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1135804)
But I don't know how well the mechs will actually grip the actual material on the bridges because its very slippery.

Reasonably well, but not as well as the performance wheels. You also get a lot of help with the performance wheels -- they're much harder to backdrive than the mecanum wheels are, and have essentially no sideways slip.

Justin Montois 27-02-2012 20:50

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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1135808)
That depends. If they want to be able to push us, we can use the mechs. If they want us to stay still while they move back and forth to balance, we can do that, too.



Reasonably well, but not as well as the performance wheels. You also get a lot of help with the performance wheels -- they're much harder to backdrive than the mecanum wheels are, and have essentially no sideways slip.

I'm curious what your strategy was behind this design. What do you expect your robot to be doing match in, match out?

Looks good, can't wait to learn more about it

pfreivald 27-02-2012 21:15

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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1135832)
I'm curious what your strategy was behind this design. What do you expect your robot to be doing match in, match out?

Score points and balance bridges.

Our design has been modular from the beginning, with a down/up-scale functionality based on what it is that we are actually able to pull off. That is to say, not only our mechanical systems, but our strategy has been modular -- we designed things so that pushing for more than we think we might be able to accomplish actually brought us closer to more realistic goals as well, so that time was well-spent even if the ultimate functionality envisioned didn't pay off.


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