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chat indicated they hung, ruled a technical, usfirst showed no balance pts for Match 1, 118 asked for ruling, balance points restored. I did not see as stream was down for early matches

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Just providing the information that likely led to the assumption. Chill :)

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Match 009, 148 did not move and their number was red.

Did they get a red card? Or does Red mean no comms?

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No, there was a field issue that bypassed them.

That match will be rerun right before lunch

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The Robonauts were informed this morning our mechanism would be penalized if used. We did not attempt to hang in our first match, nor will we for the remainder of this tournament. 2936 balanced the bridge for 10 pts. The head ref announced the ruling to the regional during a break after match 4. I will post more details on this at a later time.

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Can we save the snarkiness for other places and leave it off CD and off this thread?

Jane

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Thank you again for providing us direct information on your team's situation. I am interested to hear the exact wording of the ruling and how it will effect teams throughout the rest of the season. I look forward to your comments.

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Thanks for the clarification.

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That's too bad Justin. I was really hoping this would be ruled legal.

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Thanks for the update, Justin. Congrats to your team for going out on a limb and designing a mechanism that was risky, but inspirational at the same time. You guys created this most likely for the sake of seeing if it could be done, and to push the envelope.

I believe that you guys did this in a very appropriately timed fashion, publishing a video around the time of kickoff and also demonstrating this during practice day at a week 1 regional.

As usual, 118 is a classy and innovative team.

Sincerely,
Andy Baker

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118 just flipped and took a hit while trying to balance on the coopertition bridge.

Hope everything is ok

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1477's fender shooting is deadly. It will be interesting to see where they go tomorrow. 118 is also fender shooting but to the side with the turret, the two of them would fit well together and would be a deadly combo. It will also be interesting to see what 148 can do when fully operational and how they fit into the equation. I have a strong feeling that 2 of these 3 teams will be in the top alliance.

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I'm curious if Tuesday's team update will provide any commentary on this issue, or will FIRST just let the ruling of a head ref at one regional be the indication to all teams around the world of whether or not this system is legal.

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It would seem like someone should announce it. I know it will likely get passed around among the head refs, but everyone in FIRST isn't following the situation on CD and all that. Or, at least, FIRST shouldn't assume they are.

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So is it just me, or is something screwy about the co-opertition bridge scoring?

In the rankings page, three teams are listed with 2 CP each, and all others have 0 CP each. That's not possible if the Twitter feed is accurate. CPs are scored for both alliances simultaneously, and can't be erased by DQs (although the QPs that ordinarily result would not count).

(Also, the FMS web feed seems to have just gone down, so you may have to wait a while to check this.)