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brysonhicks 27-02-2012 16:35

Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Hi, I had a few questions about if we can mount and use a go pro camera during the competition.
-Does the fact it has its own internal battery pack cause a problem with the rules?
-Can we start it recording when we turn on the robot? (Will will auto record when you turn on the camera.)

It will be totally separated electronically. It is simply for recording the game.
There are a few videos of people using them last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQ6vksrLDU

Thanks!

savage 27-02-2012 16:49

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
First off i would read through the rules one more time because I dont know. But I think aslon it is on the robot during inpection then I whink you will be ok.

Marc S. 27-02-2012 16:51

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
The use of a camera with a separate powersupply from the main robot is leagal as long as it does not transmit or recieve data during a match.

Brandon Holley 27-02-2012 16:54

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Ours will be donning 2 GoPros all season.

-Brando

jyh947 27-02-2012 17:01

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
The YouTube video you linked to is the MSC competition, where every robot in the Semi-Finals and Finals had to have a camera mounted on the robot because a television channel (I can't remember which one) was making a documentary about MSC.

billbo911 27-02-2012 17:02

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1135696)
Ours will be donning 2 GoPros all season.

-Brando

Ditto here Brandon. One HD Hero 2 and a standard Hero. The fun part is trying to figure out which to put where.

Dusk Star 27-02-2012 17:10

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1135702)
Ditto here Brandon. One HD Hero 2 and a standard Hero. The fun part is trying to figure out which to put where.

One on the rotating turret, (the HD one) and another facing forwards?

andreboos 27-02-2012 17:18

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc S. (Post 1135693)
The use of a camera with a separate powersupply from the main robot is leagal as long as it does not transmit or recieve data during a match.

Can a camera (video or otherwise) be considered a COTS computing device?

Marc S. 27-02-2012 17:39

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andreboos (Post 1135708)
Can a camera (video or otherwise) be considered a COTS computing device?

That's a good question(off to read manual...). The cool thing with the camera is that unless you modify it, it's concidered a cots item and won't add to your 30lbs.

cgmv123 27-02-2012 18:14

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Yes, but it's not exempt from weight or cost restrictions.

My dad had a goPro attached at various points during our test run. Witness the results: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=276200042453874

brysonhicks 27-02-2012 20:16

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Thanks for you help! It appears that the camera should not cause any problems then and it does not cost over $400 so cost should not be an issue. I plan on using it during the competition.

farmersvilleRob 27-02-2012 20:27

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Sorry I'm on my iPhone, but we asked this exact question to the Q&A and found based off this that we cannot mount then because our robot costs too much.

andreboos 27-02-2012 20:34

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Its separate power supply would disqualify it per R36, regardless of cost or weight, unless it is classified as a COTS computing device (arguable).

brysonhicks 27-02-2012 21:04

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
Have any people done it before? If so, then it seems like it would be allowed. Also, what is a cots computing device?

andreboos 27-02-2012 21:21

Re: Can we use a gopro helmet camera?
 
A COTS computing device would be something like a laptop or PDA mounted on the robot. COTS (Commercial Off-The-Shelf) means that it is not modified from its original state (apart from software). The intent of R36 is to prevent non-approved power sources from being used, while permitting the use of portable computing devices that operate on their own battery. An example use might be to perform advanced image processing without slowing the cRIO. However, per R52, the device cannot control the robot in any way besides perhaps relaying information to the cRIO to use for its control decisions.


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