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Grim Tuesday 14-03-2012 01:21

Re: Highest score so far?
 
The GDC has been very clear; if a ball doesn't go past the sensors in auton, it isn't counted for it. I don't know why the Pittsburg crew changed that, but watching that video, the announcer is hilarious "A package from THE PAIN MONSTER".

JABot67 14-03-2012 01:50

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1143943)
The GDC has been very clear; if a ball doesn't go past the sensors in auton, it isn't counted for it. I don't know why the Pittsburg crew changed that, but watching that video, the announcer is hilarious "A package from THE PAIN MONSTER".

Nope.

Refer to this post, which states that the Q&A has indicated otherwise, (I don't have access to the team's Q&A account myself so quoting CD will have to do.)

Also, the score in Finals Match 1 at Waterford was changed to reflect that a ball that went through the hoop in hybrid always will count for the hybrid bonus, regardless of when it passes through the sensor. You can hear the announcers stating this in the recording here.

Also, I HEARD, but this is just hearsay so don't take it as truth or anything, that the refs at Kettering knew that the last ball in hybrid during Finals 3 should have counted, but they never bothered to change it because it didn't affect the outcome of the match.

Ether 14-03-2012 09:47

Re: Highest score so far?
 

Waterford, E19: total score 152 (red 85, blue 67)


Ether 14-03-2012 10:07

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1138600)
Robonauts posted a TP of 159 at Alamo

Team 131 posted a HP of 132 at BAE

Where did you get these numbers from ?



Jared Russell 14-03-2012 10:11

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1144036)
Where did you get these numbers from ?



The "Standings" page on the FIRST website for each event lists cumulative HP, TP, and BP.

Ex: http://frclinks.com/e/r/nh

Ether 14-03-2012 10:46

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1144039)
The "Standings" page on the FIRST website for each event lists cumulative HP, TP, and BP.

Ex: http://frclinks.com/e/r/nh

Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.


103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford

152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford

46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers

57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida

45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East

61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida


note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data


dcherba 14-03-2012 11:55

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Top few from the qualification rounds. last column is sum of scores and just before that is alliance score.

PHL 3:49 PM 29 3553 423 4373 816 3929 484 21 80 80 101
NJ 10:51 AM 82 223 1370 75 869 1676 224 15 80 80 95
ON 11:14 AM 14 4252 188 1221 4334 2185 2852 48 74 74 122
PAH 2:57 PM 16 341 1923 1218 1391 4361 709 74 16 74 90
PHL 8:46 AM 51 816 709 1257 365 834 222 6 74 74 80
KC 3:22 PM 48 1827 2335 3764 2949 1986 1987 0 72 72 72
ON 1:27 PM 23 610 3360 865 1114 2056 2994 20 71 71 91
ON 11:11 AM 59 2185 907 1114 4248 2852 1241 69 38 69 107
WOR 9:44 AM 3 3280 3205 177 558 4254 2621 64 11 64 75
ON 10:50 AM 11 2056 4334 188 548 1547 1114 64 31 64 95
KC 12:08 PM 94 16 1997 2335 1737 2167 2346 64 7 64 71
WOR 3:07 PM 37 3930 3205 558 1735 4410 23 62 18 62 80
PHL 2:53 PM 22 3553 321 2539 1495 341 316 6 61 61 67

Siri 14-03-2012 11:55

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDAWG25 (Post 1143932)
At the Pittsburgh Regional,

Red Alliance 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E., 2614 MARs, and 375 Robotic Plauge, won Quarters 1 Match 2 74-0.

36 point autonomous with a double balance
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21013371

The last ball of autonomous was counted as only 3 because is landed in the hoop in tele-op. The other 3 points of that shot were added in at the end of the match

The GCD has been clear on the Q&A:

A: Per Rule [G38], the Basketballs are scored as they pass through the Hoop. So, if a Basketball shot during the Hybrid Period passes through the Hoop before the Hybrid Period ends, it will earn the Hybrid bonus of Rule [G39]. If it passes through the Hoop after Hybrid Period ends, it will not earn the Hybrid bonus.

A: Any Basketball that enters the Hoop during the Hybrid period will receive the Hybrid bonus.


Further, the Manual states:
[G06] A Match is 2 minutes and 15 seconds long. The Hybrid period (Hybrid) is the first 15 seconds of the Match. The Teleoperated period (Teleop) is the remaining 2-minute period. Each period ends when the Arena timer displays zero seconds.

If you watch the footage you posted, you'll see that the last ball is not through the hoop when the timer hits zero (not even close), and thus the ball should not have been counted.

This is the case for both corrected/should have been corrected scores that I've seen posted here thus far. (The other being GTR-East QF 3-2; I don't know about Kettering as I can't find a video that displays the timer.) Of course, this is probably a tough call to make from most perspectives, but I hope everyone at least understands the rules. I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though.

Yipyapper 14-03-2012 12:07

Re: Highest score so far?
 
188, 610 and 3360 got 100 points at Greater Toronto East, a big part being that they got 40 points from the bridge.

Greg Leighton 14-03-2012 12:28

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1144087)
I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though.

I haven't checked the match myself but I trust Ether on reporting accurate numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1144053)
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers


rutzman 14-03-2012 12:36

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1144087)
If you watch the footage you posted, you'll see that the last ball is not through the hoop when the timer hits zero (not even close), and thus the ball should not have been counted.

At 25s of the posted video, you can see the ball at the base of the net-past the hoop, but not yet caught by the scoring sensor, while the clock is at 0. The feed is a bit choppy around this time, but if you go frame by frame you can see it. When the camera view changes at the beginning of teleop, you can see the head ref signal that it counts as a six point basket.[/derail]

Regardless, this is not the highest scoring match.

Teamcodeorange 14-03-2012 13:19

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1138497)
In SD there was a 36v40 match, which I believe was the highest.

We won a match 61v25 the first quarter finals match in the SDR with 4161 and Super Nurds. :D

dodar 14-03-2012 13:30

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1144053)
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.


103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford

152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford

46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers

57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida

45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East

61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida


note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data


For E9 @ Florida, I dont remember the red alliance scoring 40 points in hybrid?

Siri 14-03-2012 13:37

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rutzman (Post 1144110)
At 25s of the posted video, you can see the ball at the base of the net-past the hoop, but not yet caught by the scoring sensor, while the clock is at 0. The feed is a bit choppy around this time, but if you go frame by frame you can see it. When the camera view changes at the beginning of teleop, you can see the head ref signal that it counts as a six point basket.[/derail]

Do you really? I can easily freeze the screen at ~24s to display the timer at zero and the ball in the air halfway to the hoops. (Remember it's when the timer hits zero, not when the teleop count starts.) I'm not sure how you're getting what you see, but regardless I think we're proving just how hard it is to tell these things. The official ruling stands, of course.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Leighton (Post 1144101)
I haven't checked the match myself but I trust Ether on reporting accurate numbers.

Haha, yes. We've been joking about the prediction of exactly 36 since the score at Rutgers. I should check other results, though.

Ether 14-03-2012 13:46

Re: Highest score so far?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1144140)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.


103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford

152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford

46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers

57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida

45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East

61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida


note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data
For E9 @ Florida, I dont remember the red alliance scoring 40 points in hybrid?

? Non sequitur.




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