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Highest score so far?
Just wondering what some ofthe high scoring competitions have been. The best I've seen just happened in semi-finals in Gull Lake, MI. Teams 85, 1918, and 1677 won wih a score of 50-8. 30 basket points and 20 bridge points.
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Saw a 70 on a webcast of the Kansas City event.
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QF1-2 at Hatboro-Horsham had a reported score of 83-29. However, for some reason the FIRST event page is showing the score as 103-0. I didn't hear any announcement of a score change/DQ on the webcast, so I'm not quite sure what went on there.
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Another team at Kansas City just scored 89.
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In not entirely sure, but apparently on Thursday, one match at KC was apparently 1500 - 1200 during practice.
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There was just a match with a score of 89 in the Hatboro finals.
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1986, 16, and 3784 posted a score of 89 in quarterfinal 1-2 a few minutes ago at Greater Kansas City Regional.
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341, 1218, and 1640 won their second finals match 90-47
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Here in San Diego the highest we've seen has only been the lower 30s. This was mostly a result of some low basket scoring (around 5-15) and then bridge points, with two robots balancing a very rare occurrence. Tomorrow's elimination matches should yield much higher scores.
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In SD there was a 36v40 match, which I believe was the highest.
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It would also be interesting to look at the highest TP and HP.
Robonauts posted a TP of 159 at Alamo Team 131 posted a HP of 132 at BAE It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the weeks continue. |
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341 put up 218 HP and 249 TP in 12 rounds at Hatboro-Horsham.
With partners 1218 and 1640 we put up scores of 89, 90, and 103 (83 before G25) in elims. |
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Highest Hybrid in a single match...
1986, 16 ,and 3784 hit all 6 shots (4 top, 2 mid) for 34 points. 3784 chose the mid to minimze the risk of ball interference. Match 19 here: http://www.more.net/content/2012-fir...-final-matches PS. We'll see if we can work up a double auto to shoot the coop bridge balls for the next regional. |
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71-37 in Quarterfinals was the high in San Diego
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Well, Waterford just hit 103, so anything is possible...
Team 469, 67, and 2851 for a triple, 12 hybrid, and 30 teleop, plus 21 foul points |
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89 in Hatboro F-2 remains the highest foul-free score. We've seen two 103s and a 100 where fouls gave significant contributions to the score.
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At Waterford the 67-469-2851 alliance won 103-24 in the Quarterfinals.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_...eature=related
GTR-East quarter finals 610/188/3360 won 100 to 10, however, if you watch the last few seconds of the hybrid period, 610's last shot only registers as 3, when it should have been six, so the correct score should have been 103-10. I believe that this is the highest score (tied) as well as the greatest difference between the two scores. Regards, Michael |
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The Waterford District in MI this weekend had an Einstein preview. The alliance of 67, 469 and 2851 won 103-28. They had a triple balance in the quarterfinal matches.
The finals featured a double triple balance. There have been no known reports of another double triple. The above alliance won 85-67. The losing alliance was 573, 3601 and 3098. Anybody hear of any other double triple balance matches? |
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Sorry for the confusion, but i still cant figure out these answers: Highest score including penalties Highest score after subtracting penalties. Highest combined score before/after subtracting penalties Biggest score difference before/after subtracting penalties Thanks! -Duke |
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Highest score I've personally seen was 83 during a WPI elimination match.
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Makes sense though in all the rest of the matches we scored around 40pts between Hybrid and Telep + the Triple Balance (40pts). |
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Well in Pittsburgh, we went 74-0 in one of the final matches; full 6/6 6 6 point auton and double bridge.
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At the Pittsburgh Regional,
Red Alliance 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E., 2614 MARs, and 375 Robotic Plauge, won Quarters 1 Match 2 74-0. 36 point autonomous with a double balance http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21013371 The last ball of autonomous was counted as only 3 because is landed in the hoop in tele-op. The other 3 points of that shot were added in at the end of the match |
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The GDC has been very clear; if a ball doesn't go past the sensors in auton, it isn't counted for it. I don't know why the Pittsburg crew changed that, but watching that video, the announcer is hilarious "A package from THE PAIN MONSTER".
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Refer to this post, which states that the Q&A has indicated otherwise, (I don't have access to the team's Q&A account myself so quoting CD will have to do.) Also, the score in Finals Match 1 at Waterford was changed to reflect that a ball that went through the hoop in hybrid always will count for the hybrid bonus, regardless of when it passes through the sensor. You can hear the announcers stating this in the recording here. Also, I HEARD, but this is just hearsay so don't take it as truth or anything, that the refs at Kettering knew that the last ball in hybrid during Finals 3 should have counted, but they never bothered to change it because it didn't affect the outcome of the match. |
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Waterford, E19: total score 152 (red 85, blue 67) |
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Ex: http://frclinks.com/e/r/nh |
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103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford 152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford 46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers 57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida 45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East 61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data |
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Top few from the qualification rounds. last column is sum of scores and just before that is alliance score.
PHL 3:49 PM 29 3553 423 4373 816 3929 484 21 80 80 101 NJ 10:51 AM 82 223 1370 75 869 1676 224 15 80 80 95 ON 11:14 AM 14 4252 188 1221 4334 2185 2852 48 74 74 122 PAH 2:57 PM 16 341 1923 1218 1391 4361 709 74 16 74 90 PHL 8:46 AM 51 816 709 1257 365 834 222 6 74 74 80 KC 3:22 PM 48 1827 2335 3764 2949 1986 1987 0 72 72 72 ON 1:27 PM 23 610 3360 865 1114 2056 2994 20 71 71 91 ON 11:11 AM 59 2185 907 1114 4248 2852 1241 69 38 69 107 WOR 9:44 AM 3 3280 3205 177 558 4254 2621 64 11 64 75 ON 10:50 AM 11 2056 4334 188 548 1547 1114 64 31 64 95 KC 12:08 PM 94 16 1997 2335 1737 2167 2346 64 7 64 71 WOR 3:07 PM 37 3930 3205 558 1735 4410 23 62 18 62 80 PHL 2:53 PM 22 3553 321 2539 1495 341 316 6 61 61 67 |
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A: Per Rule [G38], the Basketballs are scored as they pass through the Hoop. So, if a Basketball shot during the Hybrid Period passes through the Hoop before the Hybrid Period ends, it will earn the Hybrid bonus of Rule [G39]. If it passes through the Hoop after Hybrid Period ends, it will not earn the Hybrid bonus. A: Any Basketball that enters the Hoop during the Hybrid period will receive the Hybrid bonus. Further, the Manual states: [G06] A Match is 2 minutes and 15 seconds long. The Hybrid period (Hybrid) is the first 15 seconds of the Match. The Teleoperated period (Teleop) is the remaining 2-minute period. Each period ends when the Arena timer displays zero seconds. If you watch the footage you posted, you'll see that the last ball is not through the hoop when the timer hits zero (not even close), and thus the ball should not have been counted. This is the case for both corrected/should have been corrected scores that I've seen posted here thus far. (The other being GTR-East QF 3-2; I don't know about Kettering as I can't find a video that displays the timer.) Of course, this is probably a tough call to make from most perspectives, but I hope everyone at least understands the rules. I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though. |
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188, 610 and 3360 got 100 points at Greater Toronto East, a big part being that they got 40 points from the bridge.
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Regardless, this is not the highest scoring match. |
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I definitely don't envy the referees that have to make these close calls in a split second, especially if it's in a tight match. |
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I don't trust either of those hybrid score numbers. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzHjkH4O88&t=59m50s (top right screen) Red: 29 Blue: 28 There's a jump in the play videography, but that's correct by the official display. |
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I don't know if this is the smoking gun evidence you're looking for, but it's the best I've seen! :p |
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94 Detroit Match E19 highest alliance score with foul points included: 103 Waterford Match E1 highest match score with foul points subtracted: 152 Waterford Match E19 highest match score with foul points included: 152 Waterford Match E19 highest score difference with foul points subtracted: 75 Greater Toronto East Match E7 highest score difference with foul points included: 90 Greater Toronto East Match E7 CAVEAT: This is from Twitter data, which has completeness and correctness issues discussed elsewhere. Does not include NY Elim data which just came in. |
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A score in Utah last week was 99. 54 of the points were due to penalties by a rookie bot on the opposite alliance.
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246-233-341 put up 94 + 9 foul points for a score of 103. Tying the highest single allaince score. This was QF 1-2
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341 233 and 246 just put up 103-19
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1114/2056/4372 100 points and 3 foul points! For 103!
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1114's alliance just put up 103 as final score. 3 points from a penalty.
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Waterloo: 2:35 PM Semi 1-1 13 1114 4372 2056 216 3756 4200 103 21
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Video of the match here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jB2PZU1DmA
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New world high score 1114/2056/4372 105-16.. 96 points plus 9 foul points..
Also a 42 to 32 Hybrid in Boston |
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Waterloo: 3:31 PM Final 1-1 19 1114 2056 4372 244 1503 2852 105 16
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1114, 2056, and 4372 just scored 105. Link coming soon.
EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=h7inQWqIW9k |
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67, 548, and 3656 just scored 113 in finals, match 2 of the Northville District.
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Finals 1 of Wisconsin 77-98, might be a high combined score. No penalties.
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Also at Wisconsin team 2169 put up a TP of 317 through 11 matches. And in the finals the winning alliance of 269, 48, and 2826 put up two 98 point matches in a row.
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Wisconsin Roboteers had 37 QP which is the highest we were able to find.
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Twitter data weeks 1 through 4. Be aware: Twitter data has many omissions and some errors. |
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Highest score in Seattle Olympic was match three of the finals: 68-67, with no fouls.
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Well 67, 548 and 3656 in Elim. 1 scored 100/39 against 543, 1322 and 3668. :eek:
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Finals Match #1 in Waterloo was 105-16
Winning alliance was 1114, 2056, and 4372, against 244, 1503, and 2852. 105 is the highest score this season and this is probably the biggest difference in scores also with a difference of 89. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSChOG_CB6Y We followed this up with another 98 point showing, aided by only one three-point penalty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv1EgRuSDXA |
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Does anyone know the updated highest scores in each of the respective scoring categories?
I suspect that the Boston F2 hybrid score of 42 (341-233-246) to 32 (125-78-2084) was both the highest individual and combined hybrid score yet this season, but I cannot prove it. I also suspect that the 84 points scored by balls alone in Boston QF1-2 (341-233-246) is a current high, but again, can't prove it. For that matter, what is the current highest score without fouls? (Most HP+TP+BP) |
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113 doesn't look so incredible when there are 27 penalty points. |
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Thus far the highest HP+TP+BP score I can find is Waterloo E-13 where 1114-2056-4372 put up 100 points before fouls (103 after).
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Here are the results from the incomplete (and possibly incorrect) Twitter data: max alliance score with foul points included |
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Similar to Ether's post above (also based on his twitter data), with team numbers included.
Top 5 Total Scores Code:
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 totalTop 5 Unpenalized Scores Code:
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 UP ScoreCode:
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I am hearing from asking around that the 46 point hybrid score in NJ Q82 was an error, but I am waiting for additional confirmation from the teams involved.
Also, E5 of Hatboro-Horsham was revised to a final of 103-0 (with 49 points coming from penalties, including interfering with a triple balance). |
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The 46 points in hybrid was an error. 224 could only score middle and the most points they put up in hybrid period, according to my scouting, was ten. 869 was a purely defensive bot who could not score, which would mean that 1676 had to put up six baskets. Something that I do not remember happening.
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All I can say is, just wait for next week, at GTRW (ON2), when the likely top seeded alliance of 1114/2056 has a lot bigger pool of talent to choose from for the 24th pick.
Its been interesting at the 2 Ontario regionals thus far. Both times, its come down to the last round of matches to decide if 1114 would be the #1 seed, with 3161, 1815, and 610 all within closing distance at round 11 of the matches. Good luck for 1114 kept them in the #1 seed, with successful coopertition in their last Qualification match at GTRE from 2852, and a well timed unlucky match for 3161 in the last round at WAT. Someone else seeding #1 would certainly make for a more even distribution of the firepower. A matchup of 1114/907 vs 188/2056 would certainly be more even than 1114/2056 vs 907/188. Would it make for better matches? I'm not sure; there is definitely something to watching the expert level at which an 1114/2056 alliance plays the game each year. To me, the Montreal regional put up the most interesting show. The high volume of rookies, and the lack of any significant veteran powerhouses (the closest thing was 176 and 2590), lead to an impressively even matching in the eliminations. A quarter-final, both semi-finals (alliances 1,2,3, and 5), and the finals (alliances 1,3) all went to 3 rounds, with admittedly low, but at least close scores. |
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Highest total match score, foul points included: 191, ON2 E19 Highest alliance score, foul points deducted: 102, ON2 E19 Highest total match score, foul points deducted: 185, ON2 E19 |
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I think that beats all three of those. FRCTX TY E MC 15 RF 106 BF 90 RA 118 359 1642 BA 57 2415 3997 RB 20 BB 20 RFP 0 BFP 3 RHS 29 BHS 36 RTS 57 BTS 31 CP 0 |
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F1 at Troy blows everything else out of the water. 117. Don't know if there were fouls contributing to that.
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F-2 Northville: 113 (27 foul points). F-1 Troy: 117 (27 foul points). Hopefully at MSC we will see some scores that high w/o the fouls. |
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