Possible 2013 Game Idea
 

Recently, I have noticed a pattern about games that are similar to past ones. 2011 was about tubes, like 2007. 2012 was about balls and shooting it into a hoop, like 2006. Will 2013 have triangular game pieces like in 2005? Or, will it just be some other funky geometric shaped game piece? Just an idea...

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I wouldn't mind seeing storage bins again.

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I think a 2004-esque super game is long overdue.

In that game, there was so much to do that I think every team could do something. Making a robot that did it all was a near impossibility.

2002,2010- Soccerballs
2003- tubs
2004- two different sized balls
2005- tetras
2006,2012- foam poof balls
2007,2011- inner tubes
2008-covered mega balls
2009- lunacy balls

They have enough game pieces and materials to work with. Add in a minibot, a bridge or hanging bar and a super game is more than feasible.

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I've said this in the 2012 and maybe the 2011 guess thread, but there is no pattern in games that anything can be drawn from.

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I've noticed a trend of sport, nonsense game, sport, nonsense game.

I would say next year is most likely a water game.

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nonsense.

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Water game yep its gotta be a water game.

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Can this thread be moved to chit-chat please?

Thanks,
-Duke

P.S. Please do not neg rep me if you disagree, shoot me a PM instead.

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No every year everyone says next year will be a water game it is almost as bad as recursion.

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Haha, programming joke!

Seriously though, i wouldn't be surprised by a water game, FIRST is pretty creative. The game will probably be manipulating some sort of odd shape to score points, with a catch of course

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The catch: The balls, field, and plexiglass surrounding the field will all be magnetic!

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Almost all games have a catch but I just don't see it happening any time soon, It is just my opinion

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If you notice there is sort of a pattern, every other year is ball related, the other years are logo related. Now i dont mean all three. Bins, squares, tetras, triangles, moonrocks, circle, tubes, all 3 combined. Not im not sure about my years and all that, but im quite certain that next year, will be square related...

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I say we just play Breakaway again.

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Just my two cents, but these games are not thought up by a computer. They are made by a GDC of real people, whose only objective is to create the best overall FRC game they can come up with. Do you really think they would use some sort of pattern to decide?

Of course they wont do the same type of game piece two years in a row, and sure, they try to rotate around. But saying there is a definite pattern to the gamepiece used, unlikely...

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I say no

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the game isn't the challenge next year. next yeah the challenge in not being aloud any cylinders on the robot.

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Who said anything about pneumatics not being allowed being a challenge? I know of at least one world champion with zero pneumatics aboard, and that's after pneumatics became common (there were several before then due to severe restrictions).

Next year's challenge is that metal isn't allowed on the robots, except under very strict exceptions.

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4392 won't have a problem with that! the only metal we have is from the KOP :yikes:

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Wow that would be something no metal on the robot. The only materials that come to mind now is wood and plastic type items.

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I second the no to this one, I still have nightmares*.







*Apparently when you double the number of mechanisms, the number of mechanical failures is squared, not doubled.

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Robot football will be next years game.

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Metal in the KOP? Not given.

The exceptions I'm thinking of are: wiring and electronics, fasteners, and internal to actuation devices (which include motors and pneumatic cylinders).

Now you get the fun of finding alternative materials for everything. That includes gears as well as frame.

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I loved Breakaway, and we rocked FLR in 2010... But I'd hate to see a repeat.

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Same for 3397. Wood and PVC, UNITE!!!!!! :D

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Even crazier than no metal would be no electronic combonents! No game, just see who can make the robot that runs the longest

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All they have to do is create a crio that uses tubes of conductive gasses instead of wires. Shouldnt be that hard, right?????
:ahh:

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The serious problem with a water game is that nobody can afford to change their cRIO whenever a watertight seal breaks. Underwater batteries aren't the greatest idea either.

P.S. -- And NO, the game does not even have to be entirely submerged in water.

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Who says the cRIO or battery have to be anywhere near the water? There was no power source or control system on the 1992 FRC robots as they slogged their way through a game field covered in kernels of corn. The same type of setup could work very well for ro-boats navigating the surface of a shallow pool.

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Bring back the Regolith floor, no wheels, and make hard plastic skates.
Yes....Hockey!

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I, and I'm sure many other people, would rather belt-sand off their fingernails than play Lunacy again.

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I dunno, looking at Lunacy footage I feel like it would be a fun game to try again at.

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*shudders in horror*

I really, really did not like Lunacy.

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Was it really that bad?

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My problem is that there are no guarantees your robot will always be floating, and having no exposed electronics could get a little difficult. I see way too many teams failing inspection.

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Yes. Fun to design the robot, not very strategic to play, and very confusing to watch.

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I think the best discription of Lunacy was from a parent of a student on our team.

It looked like a bunch of 6 year olds playing soccer.

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"Driving without the trailer was quite fun, but driving with the trailer was just painful."--Paul Copioli, 217 Thunderchickens

Reference to http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...585#post800585

Yeah, it was that bad. You failed to show up for the match, you gave your opponents 24 points on a sitting target if you didn't strategically plan where the missing robot would go. You had no automode, same thing. And moving two robots, in effect, one unpowered, was painful.

That and the "infinite supply" of official game objects...

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Hmm, that DOES sound pretty bad..

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I like these minibots from the 2002 that run from tethers.

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1 hint: Positive pressure ;)

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I understand what you are saying because I coach 6 year olds playing soccer in AYSO.

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Agreed, but the first thing I thought of when I saw this years game was "gee, if they made us use the Lunacy wheels on 'regolith' again for this game, they could've called it SPACE JAM" and that would've been pretty awesome :P

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I have one idea for a game that could be really fun.

Dodgeball.

Think about it, two balls per robot. Each robot must mount a pressure plate that when hit by a ball causes them to shut down for a few seconds. If you get hit three times then you are out and you must exit the court. Last alliance standing wins.

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What if the field was made of two separate levels, with holes in the top one that the robots could fall into?

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To prevent repeat, I think we will see a simple form of picking items up or pushing them around. For instance, Stack Attack, Overdrive, or Triple Play.

I can also see this one ending with robots climbing each other or hanging.

Would also be an interesting concept for many red alliance objects to start on the blue side and the red alliance has to get them and place them it zones (visa versa) also to help prevent all defence, make it so the red team could not have more than 1 robot in their zone (visa versa).

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That would be fun and at the end human players could throw balls at the robots :)