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Alex698 14-03-2012 13:57

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Unless I'm mistaken, (which happens a lot in FIRST --we learn this way right?) could you use a friction drive to the wheel and ditch the second reduction? I only thought of it because of the minibot gearing-up, gearing-down and final ratio power loss. Or would a friction drive could prove too unreliable in pushing matches?

Aren_Hill 14-03-2012 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex698 (Post 1144157)
Unless I'm mistaken, (which happens a lot in FIRST --we learn this way right?) could you use a friction drive to the wheel and ditch the second reduction? I only thought of it because of the minibot gearing-up, gearing-down and final ratio power loss. Or would a friction drive could prove too unreliable in pushing matches?

Friction drive worked on minibots because it was such a low torque application, you would need to provide substantial normal force and need a much harder tread material in order to transfer the CIM torque to the wheel through friction, essentially making everything really inefficient.

ajlapp 14-03-2012 14:59

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This a clever little module.

If I recall FRC 141 Wo-Bots did a CIM in the wheel swerve drive last season. It was based on a larger wheel, but it was equally awesome.

Of particular note was that their design used only timing belts and was nearly silent while moving...it was kind of ominous when you were near it on the practice field. :D

nathannfm 16-03-2012 01:25

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I don't often post on CD, but when I do it's on threads where the engineering genius blows my mind. :eek:

Tytus Gerrish 19-03-2012 16:08

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cool!

PAR_WIG1350 19-03-2012 17:15

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Originally Posted by ajlapp (Post 1144187)
This a clever little module.

If I recall FRC 141 Wo-Bots did a CIM in the wheel swerve drive last season. It was based on a larger wheel, but it was equally awesome.

Of particular note was that their design used only timing belts and was nearly silent while moving...it was kind of ominous when you were near it on the practice field. :D

Do you have pictures of that?

Timz3082 20-03-2012 18:09

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Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1146257)
Do you have pictures of that?

I also Saw this beautiful design, all anodized and powder coated, it turned me on, yes, I am attracted to good engineering, to bad I didn't get any good pics.
I wish 141 would post either their cad or a close up of the module.

wo-bot 141 20-03-2012 20:39

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i don't have a cad drawing or a picture of it, but i will try and get one for you guys to see.

Timz3082 21-03-2012 20:47

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Originally Posted by wo-bot 141 (Post 1146952)
i don't have a cad drawing or a picture of it, but i will try and get one for you guys to see.

This would make me, and much of chiefdelphi, very happy!
That design was really a work of art! Too bad we weren't able to win that semi finals match with you guys last year, you are really a great team!

Ty Tremblay 29-03-2012 13:59

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Does anyone have video of this bot in action?

Bill_B 30-03-2012 00:02

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Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1151196)
Does anyone have video of this bot in action?

Going to be rare due to GDC ruling about the robot's tactics. Keep looking. Swerves are fun to watch, even when only practicing. It's like being envious of Gene Kelly or Fred Astaire. Maybe I'd like to dance like that, but only two chances of that - very slim and none.

This is a match that has 3928 with a superstructure on top. It's mostly of the other alliance, but there is a coopertition bridge attempt at the end. Uncertain about the outcome 'cause they were still rockin' when the video cuts off.

Katie_UPS 30-03-2012 03:19

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Its not at competition, but here is video of the swerve in our shop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgRVg...ature=youtu.be

MichaelBick 30-03-2012 09:07

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Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 1151483)
Its not at competition, but here is video of the swerve in our shop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgRVg...ature=youtu.be

:ahh: Now I'm even more impressed. That looks like a drivetrain that is well built, and can easily beat any 6 wheel drive, without even using the regular swerve mode.

pfreivald 30-03-2012 09:18

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Very, very slick. An awesome piece of engineering!

neshera 31-03-2012 20:50

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I just posted video of FRC Team 3928 Neutrino first match EVER!
You can see their swerve in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx0zv4H21MQ

And Match 16 is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiytvLHfR3c

To the Neutrinos:
I have several of your matches in HD video.
Someone can contact me or Carrie and I can eMail them to you.


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