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Dancin103 12-03-2012 17:57

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Ok so here is a question, if you win at districts and get "these" trophies, could you order the "traditional" ones from FIRST like you could to add to or replace broken one's in years past?

Grim Tuesday 12-03-2012 18:25

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
I like the old ones, and they did indeed give out the nice old heavy kind at normal regional events. Also, the medals we got for our EI award are exceedingly nice. I hope FIRST doesn't skimp on stuff like this in the future.

Jack Jones 12-03-2012 18:34

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancin103 (Post 1143054)
Ok so here is a question, if you win at districts and get "these" trophies, could you order the "traditional" ones from FIRST like you could to add to or replace broken one's in years past?

When it comes to the point that the teams have to buy a decient trophy, they may as well keep the entry fee and buy a real good one.

Hinfoiltat 12-03-2012 18:35

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Who cares about trophies? bragging rights is where its at :p

Koko Ed 12-03-2012 18:51

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Well here's another reason people will want to resist the District Model.

JaneYoung 12-03-2012 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1142935)
The new Trophies make it kind of hard to do the typical Net Draped over the Trophy display.

I find it odd the the district model is reducing the cost of events, yet FIRST forces the district models to use cheaper trophies.

How does one explain this to their sponsors?

-Clinton-

I apologize profusely but your photo made me burst into giggles. So sorry. It's like your trophy is hiding.

Jane

aspiece 12-03-2012 19:10

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
I have been thinking about this a lot since we received one. Our team has A LOT of the old style trophies.

Last year's style: They seem to fall apart rather quickly. We have had to glue the pillars back on quite a few of them. With the number of presentations we try to accomplish, this is difficult to keep up with. We like to show these off to our sponsors and it was embarrassing having them fall apart when they are shown.

This Year's style: Looks as though they may hold up better without the pillars to come loose. They will fit in our school showcase a little easier and will definitely travel easier. Not as impressive as the latter but has it's own benefits.

To me, the benefits of the new one's out-weigh the quality of the older ones.

It would have been nice to have something a little more impressive but we are all suffering from funding issues and we can't expect FIRST not to. As the program continues to grow, they need to come up with a way to allow it too do so in an affordable manner.

I will support FIRST's decision on the new trophies if it allows for more trophies to be given out to recognize more students across he country in their brilliant efforts to win them.

GO TRUCK!

Jack Jones 12-03-2012 20:06

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1142935)
The new Trophies make it kind of hard to do the typical Net Draped over the Trophy display.

I find it odd the the district model is reducing the cost of events, yet FIRST forces the district models to use cheaper trophies.

How does one explain this to their sponsors?
-Clinton-

Tell them that, with the way FIRST is trending, next year they should expect a t-shirt.

JaneYoung 12-03-2012 20:44

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
I've had a little time to think about this discussion since my initial reaction. Sorry, again.

This is what I've been thinking as an outsider looking in to the district level competitions:

The teams in FiM and now MAR, are busting their butts. They are traveling (even short distance is travel: packing, inventory, setup, etc.) several times during the season and they are staying at a competition level mindset for several competitions throughout the season. There is a lot of wear and tear on the robot which needs to be worked on/maintained through several competitions to get to State level. A lot more work than one or two or even 3 regionals requires and a lot more wear and tear on the machine.

So... you are being rewarded for doing more work, etc., with very small trophies. That's just weird. Why not turn them into plaques? I like plaques if that's the direction they are going.

If I have made some big assumptions that are way off base, please clarify them for me. I mean absolutely no disrespect towards the teams that are competing in FiM and MAR.

Jane

Cory 12-03-2012 20:45

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These look super chintzy.

Just when you thought FIRST couldn't possibly make the trophies smaller or further devalue the recognition of winning an event they find a way to do it.

bduddy 12-03-2012 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1143086)
Well here's another reason people will want to resist the District Model.

My main issue with it has always been that, for many teams, the district model lessens the traditional experience of a FIRST regional. Stuff like this certainly does not lessen my concerns...

Hebrew 12-03-2012 21:30

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
I don't know if the trophies from the pictures are the standard, but for most trophies at the Lake Superior Regional, including ours, it is a three pillar trophy. If it is going in a case, who cares if they are made cheap? It is what you did to earn it that counts most.

Cory 12-03-2012 21:40

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebrew (Post 1143202)
I don't know if the trophies from the pictures are the standard, but for most trophies at the Lake Superior Regional, including ours, it is a three pillar trophy. If it is going in a case, who cares if they are made cheap? It is what you did to earn it that counts most.

These are trophies from MI/MAR.

Billfred 12-03-2012 21:41

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
To be diplomatic: With the resources and creativity available to teams, I believe there is room for improvement in future seasons.

Other threads have thrown out ideas people have had before, but the first post here has given us a nice, concrete cost target. If we as FIRSTers can create something more visually impressive on roughly the same budget, surely the fine folks in Manchester would be receptive...

team222badbrad 12-03-2012 21:47

Re: 2012 Awards/Trophies
 
A look back a few months ago:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...istrict+events


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