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JB 27-03-2012 12:49

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
You are correct I have updated the data to reflect ties and other issues. Let me know if you spot anything else.

The Lucas 27-03-2012 15:00

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
The official is up
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407395/MAR%20Docs/MAR%20Event%20Docs/Ranking%203-26-12/2012%20MAR%20District%20Event%20Rankings%20Week%20 4.xlsx

Steven Donow 27-03-2012 15:19

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Those give the official results on scoring for Lenape, but the main page with cumulative results still hasn't added in Lenape


EDIT: woooooooooow ::rtm::

Jared Russell 27-03-2012 15:22

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1150193)
Those give the official results on scoring for Lenape, but the main page with cumulative results still hasn't added in Lenape

Go to the tab all the way on the left.

Steven Donow 27-03-2012 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1150195)
Go to the tab all the way on the left.

I have no one to blame but myself :eek:

(I could have sworn CD had a facepalm/face slap emoticon...)

Conor Ryan 27-03-2012 15:47

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Looks Like we might have an interesting time at Mount Olive for the last few teams in:

I'll do my best Joe Lunardi impression with MAR Championship Qualifying and the Mount Olive field.


Highly Probable Locks (High Ranking Points)

Rank Team Ranking Points
11 1676 71
13 56 64
15 1403 59
21 222 57
67 11* 18

*11 Qualified with a Chairman's win


Next 5 In (As it Stands Now). These are the teams with HUGE targets on their backs.

Rank Team Ranking Points
38 1302 43
39 103 41
40 3314 41
43 1279 38
46 25 36

First 5 Out (As it Stands Now)
Rank Team Ranking Points
52 555 29
53 1923 27
54 3515 25
56 1228 25
57 3142 25

Next 5 Out (As it Stands Now)

Rank Team Ranking Points
60 714 23
61 1367 23
63 3929 22
66 3637 20
71 41 16

scottandme 27-03-2012 16:18

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Minor quibble, but I was corrected that 3553 did compete at Chestnut Hill - bluealliance lists them as going 4-8, so they should have 8QP right?

Edit:

Also looks like 224 might have miscalculated point totals - they competed at Hatboro (1), Rutgers (2), and Lenape (4). I thought that teams participating in more than 2 events would have the points from their first two events used for their ranking. In which case they should have their points from the Rutgers event substituted for their points from the Lenape event.

I'll go find the bylaws and make sure my memory is correct.

Otherwise the public google doc and the official standing agree, the google doc doesn't factor in tiebreaks though...

Jared Russell 27-03-2012 16:23

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Blue Alliance is incorrect. 3553 went 0-4, and received a Red Card for not showing up to their other matches.

EricH 27-03-2012 16:26

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
TBA looks at the alliance score/win, but doesn't track DQs/noshows/cards. FIRST tracks the number of DQs, though.

George A. 27-03-2012 16:28

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading the MAR pamphlet it seems that you get no extra points for having more QP. Only for your win-loss record. So theoretically the most points a team can get is 24 points from that (going a perfect 12-0)

thefro526 27-03-2012 16:37

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George A. (Post 1150241)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading the MAR pamphlet it seems that you get no extra points for having more QP. Only for your win-loss record. So theoretically the most points a team can get is 24 points from that (going a perfect 12-0)

Correct.

This is why only the first 12 Quals at RU counted for any team that was there. If not, some teams could've gotten an additional point or two in the final tally.

George A. 27-03-2012 16:42

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1150249)
Correct.

This is why only the first 12 Quals at RU counted for any team that was there. If not, some teams could've gotten an additional point or two in the final tally.

So that'll make for some interesting matches. Do you go for the co-op bridge and help your ranking a bit? Or do you keep scoring and try to win all your matches?

Personally, If I know that we won't make the top 8, I'd go for the 2 points and to help try to get to the Championship in Philly.

JB 27-03-2012 16:53

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
We will be going for the co-op every time. From our observations it would seem that teams who get the most co-op points tend to do the best in qualifications and eliminations (based on Rutgers). Resulting in the most overall points towards the MAR CMP.

The Lucas 27-03-2012 17:54

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Congrats 1089 and all teams with 56 or more points. You have mathematically clinched a berth in the MAR Championship, if my calculations are correct. Feel free to check my calculations in the attached spreadsheet (modified from the official Week 4 spreadsheet, Thanks MAR).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1150082)
Shouldn't there be a further method of determining the cutoff? For instance, 1640 is currently sitting at 28 (assuming worst case that the MO Chairman's winner is ranked under us). This means, I think, that 25 teams (minimum) need to move above us, putting us at 53. The least number of points this requires is 827, under the overall point remainder of 987. Have I done this correctly?

However, this leapfrogging (at its minimum) requires 10 teams to earn 40 or more points at Mount Olive and another 8 to earn 30 or more (2 in the 20s, and 5 in the 10s). There should be some mathematical limit to the points one team can acquire, and another limit to the number of teams who can earn, say, 40 points.

I'm working on figuring this out. (Thought I had it there for a while...) Is this what you're doing in columns Q-AB?

Siri, most of what you said sounds right, although I havent checked it against the old unofficial numbers because I have new official ones.

The good news is that 1640 is the top team on the bubble with 55 pts. It would take at least 915 of the 987 available pts allocated to the 27 Mt Olive teams directly below you to possibly force you out on tiebreakers. While I still believe this is theoretically possible when it comes to point combinations, it pretty much requires the alliance picking and semi finals to be dominated by teams currently ranked 66 and below (highly unlikely). Check out column X in the new spreadsheet to see the specifics. The easier way to think about is: you just need the 4 Mt. Olive powerhouse teams above you (already clinched) to stockpile at least 73 pts (pretty safe assumption).

To all those teams on the Bubble, my prediction for the cutoff is 44 pts. This is based on another prediction that the top 11 currently ranked Mt Olive teams and MORT (Autobid) will earn over 500 of the 987 pts and another Chairmans AutoBid (Note: I don't know who is submitting there).

It should be a very exciting weekend. I am sure some Bubble teams will tune into the webcast root for MORT, The high ranked teams and low ranked teams in every match to improve their chances against the other Bubble teams.

nlknauss 27-03-2012 17:58

Re: Latest MAR District Rankings?
 
Going for the coop balance or the win is interesting in the Distric model when you factor the qualification system for championships in. It looks like those two points for each win make a big difference in determining the seeding but a team can also score some major points by being a high seed or draft pick. The teams who most consistently balanced on the coop bridge have been the higher picks so far and have earned some good points to be in a good position to qualify for Philly.

I also wonder how the statistics here compare to FiM stats? And what the approach has been towards qualifying there this year and in the past? It all really does play in to how a team approaches a season.


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