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Dancin103 27-03-2012 18:13

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Originally Posted by nlknauss (Post 1150302)
I also wonder how the statistics here compare to FiM stats? And what the approach has been towards qualifying there this year and in the past? It all really does play in to how a team approaches a season.

Nathan, I terms of numbers, idk how FiM compares, I'm sure the charts and tables are floating out there. But in terms of how they are ranked, the system is very similar! :P

kinganu123 27-03-2012 18:49

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Originally Posted by scottandme (Post 1150231)
Also looks like 224 might have miscalculated point totals - they competed at Hatboro (1), Rutgers (2), and Lenape (4). I thought that teams participating in more than 2 events would have the points from their first two events used for their ranking. In which case they should have their points from the Rutgers event substituted for their points from the Lenape event.

This here is true. I was freaking out myself, but you basically confirmed my worries.
They counted Lenape instead of Rutgers, when the opposite should be true.
Any idea who I should contact?

Jared Russell 27-03-2012 18:54

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Originally Posted by kinganu123 (Post 1150333)
This here is true. I was freaking out myself, but you basically confirmed my worries.
They counted Lenape instead of Rutgers, when the opposite should be true.
Any idea who I should contact?

I would contact Ed Petrillo.

DonRotolo 27-03-2012 21:35

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I second Ed as the contact: even if he can't fix it, he knows who can.

Ed Law 27-03-2012 23:53

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Originally Posted by Dancin103 (Post 1150311)
Nathan, I terms of numbers, idk how FiM compares, I'm sure the charts and tables are floating out there. But in terms of how they are ranked, the system is very similar! :P

The system you have is identical to FiM, at least for this first year. This is to ensure a smooth start for MAR. Next year, you can adjust the point system to your liking as long as FIRST headquarters agree. I personally would advocate for different regions to have the system they like. It is their choice how they want to advance teams to championships. In Michigan, we want to advance the most competitive robots to the State Championship and subsequently to have strong representations at World Championship.

I noticed the mistake about 224 and I already notified Ed Petrillo. I did not check to see if there are other errors. I just glanced at it and found one that does not match what my spreadsheet says.

Cyclotron 28-03-2012 14:37

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A revised ranking spreadsheet will be put up by our webmaster very soon. I have done the calculations so far and any errors have been my responsibility alone. Your input on the best way to present the results is welcome.

Ed Law has graciously calculated the MAR results on an independent basis as a check on our results. Our goal is to have this responsibility in the hands of two MAR members in the future.

Thanks to everyone who contacted me concerning errors.

Ed Petrillo
MAR Chair

DonRotolo 28-03-2012 22:51

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Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1150522)
The system you have is identical to FiM, at least for this first year. This is to ensure a smooth start for MAR. Next year, you can adjust the point system to your liking as long as FIRST headquarters agree. I personally would advocate for different regions to have the system they like.

The MAR system is identical to FiM as Ed wrote.

I am a proponent of keeping the system identical. As more Districts come online, identical point systems allow for us to 'visit other districts' and have them count in our own district CMP. Ultimately I see the 2-tier FRC system (Regional, then StL CMP) turning into a 3-tier system (District, District CMP, StL CMP). Then we cal all go visiting around the country again :D

Carol 30-03-2012 10:17

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Official answer.

WHAT: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FIRST Robotics Competition Region Championship

WHEN: Thursday-Saturday, April 12th - April 14th - see below on special early delivery of Pit Equipment & Supplies and Robot on Wednesday evening, April 11th.

WHERE: Liacouras Center, Temple University, Philadelphia PA

WHO: 54 MAR FRC teams that qualify as a result of points earned following the five MAR FRC District events that conclude with the MAR FRC District event on March 31st-April 1st at Mount Olive HS.

SPECIAL NOTE: The final standings for our 99 MAR FRC teams will be posted on Sunday evening, April1. The 54 highest ranking teams will be first eligible to compete at the MAR FRC Region Championship. The main or alternate contact for every team on the eligible list must log in to TIMS and accept or decline the invitation by noon, Tuesday, April 3. As teams accept or decline their invitations FIRST will contact the next highest teams on the list and notify them of their invitation. Please respond as soon as possible so that all places at the Championship can be filled as soon as possible. WIthin 24 hours of a team accepting their invitation to compete at the Region Championship, each team must go into TIMS and register with FIRST and provide payment either through a check, a credit card, or a Purchase Order.

George A. 30-03-2012 12:55

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Originally Posted by Carol (Post 1151542)
Official answer.

WHAT: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FIRST Robotics Competition Region Championship

WHEN: Thursday-Saturday, April 12th - April 14th - see below on special early delivery of Pit Equipment & Supplies and Robot on Wednesday evening, April 11th.

WHERE: Liacouras Center, Temple University, Philadelphia PA

WHO: 54 MAR FRC teams that qualify as a result of points earned following the five MAR FRC District events that conclude with the MAR FRC District event on March 31st-April 1st at Mount Olive HS.

SPECIAL NOTE: The final standings for our 99 MAR FRC teams will be posted on Sunday evening, April1. The 54 highest ranking teams will be first eligible to compete at the MAR FRC Region Championship. The main or alternate contact for every team on the eligible list must log in to TIMS and accept or decline the invitation by noon, Tuesday, April 3. As teams accept or decline their invitations FIRST will contact the next highest teams on the list and notify them of their invitation. Please respond as soon as possible so that all places at the Championship can be filled as soon as possible. WIthin 24 hours of a team accepting their invitation to compete at the Region Championship, each team must go into TIMS and register with FIRST and provide payment either through a check, a credit card, or a Purchase Order.

Carol:

Does that figure of 54 include the 5 Chairman's Winners?

If not then it would be the top 49 teams from the points?

scottandme 31-03-2012 18:18

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I just updated the public google doc with standing after the first day of qualifying @ mount olive if anyone is interested. I'll probably do the same at some point tomorrow, but others are welcome to edit as well.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1YVpMQURnY 0E

The Lucas 31-03-2012 20:19

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Attached is my last attempt at figuring out which teams have clinched. I updated the rankings to include Sat Mt. Olive points, 224 fix and the expanded 54 team field. Plenty of moving parts, but I think I got it right.

Congrats 103, 1640, 1279, 1302, 1647 and every other team with 53 or more points. See you at MAR Championship!

scottandme 01-04-2012 10:44

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My post from last night wasn't approved, maybe because I put a link in it (new user verification?), but I'll be updating the standings in the google doc found in post #17 as elims start in mount olive.

Deetman 01-04-2012 11:05

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Thanks Scott!

I was going to do this myself today but I see you've already been updating the spreadsheet. If you need any help, let me know.

scottandme 01-04-2012 15:04

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Rankings should be accurate (excluding tiebreakers). Awards will be added as they're given. Right now the cutoff is 38 points, and I believe that 1626 holds the tiebreak over 75 (8 elim points vs 0 elim points). 433 is outside the cutoff so it's the top 53 teams by points. That may change when CA is awarded at Mount Olive.

EricDrost 01-04-2012 16:17

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75 auto qualifies with chairman's- Congrats guys!


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