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Ed Law 31-03-2012 20:20

2012 Michigan State Qualifying Teams
 
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This is what we projected on the screen at Troy and Livonia district events today at the end of the awards ceremony. The detailed results file has been posted on the FIRST in Michigan website at http://www.firstinmichigan.us/FRC_20...12_season.html.

wahelmin 01-04-2012 20:26

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This may not be the right place to ask this, but if a team qualifies for states and doesn't go, does the next team take their place? I'm asking because as of right now we're placed 63, nut two teams below us are qualified for states due to awards and I was just wondering if there's a chance we're still going...
Thanks

Debbie 01-04-2012 20:36

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Originally Posted by wahelmin (Post 1152548)
This may not be the right place to ask this, but if a team qualifies for states and doesn't go, does the next team take their place? I'm asking because as of right now we're placed 63, nut two teams below us are qualified for states due to awards and I was just wondering if there's a chance we're still going...
Thanks

Yes.. hang in there! :)

VexisDarksteele 01-04-2012 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wahelmin (Post 1152548)
This may not be the right place to ask this, but if a team qualifies for states and doesn't go, does the next team take their place? I'm asking because as of right now we're placed 63, nut two teams below us are qualified for states due to awards and I was just wondering if there's a chance we're still going...
Thanks

Yes, and you guys actually have a really good chance of it. I personally know of a team that's qualified that is struggling to find the funds for it, and they may not be able to attend due to not having the $4,000.

Our coach is being a bit too optimistic, if you ask me. We're ranked 67th right now, and he's going to be anxiously stationed next to his cell phone all day tomorrow. I've kinda given up on the idea of States this year, because 5 teams are quite a few to drop out, but I would be completely overjoyed if that was the case. Either way, though, I know that good teams are competing. :)

Koko Ed 01-04-2012 21:16

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One thing to note: In 2009 when I volunteered at the event a team that did not qualify for the event team 2048 The Pink Panthers still attended the event and volunteered for the event. Even if you do not qualify for the event it may be a good idea to inquire about coming down and helping out.

JABot67 01-04-2012 21:19

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Originally Posted by VexisDarksteele (Post 1152580)
Yes, and you guys actually have a really good chance of it. I personally know of a team that's qualified that is struggling to find the funds for it, and they may not be able to attend due to not having the $4,000.

Our coach is being a bit too optimistic, if you ask me. We're ranked 67th right now, and he's going to be anxiously stationed next to his cell phone all day tomorrow. I've kinda given up on the idea of States this year, because 5 teams are quite a few to drop out, but I would be completely overjoyed if that was the case. Either way, though, I know that good teams are competing. :)

On that note, who is the best team not on the list for States? In my opinion 3641 definitely deserves to go to MSC... their performance in the qualifications at Livonia was phenomenal. Second pick overall, but lost in the quarterfinals to a very good and cohesive #7 alliance.

3641, you definitely had the most interesting robot at Livonia and though it doesn't look like it, I hope you make MSC!

470-RBTX 01-04-2012 22:16

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Team 470 didn't qualify but we're gonna be running the AV and we're trying to put together a welcome packet for the visiting teams :) #UnoficialHostTeamDuties

JosephC 02-04-2012 07:17

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Team 68 didn't make it (we're like 80th) We were tied for 2nd for the best w/l record at Northville.

Be seeing you at Worlds.

Mullen 02-04-2012 12:41

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This team list should make for some exciting elimination rounds. After a quick look at this thread, I see at least 15 teams that have reportedly already been involved in a triple balance (correct me if I'm wrong):

67, 85, 245, 469, 494, 548, 573, 1023, 1684, 1918, 2337, 2851, 3098, 3601, and 3656

548, 573, and 2337 defy the odds as long bots joining that group

Ryan Caldwell 02-04-2012 12:57

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Originally Posted by Mullen (Post 1152891)
This team list should make for some exciting elimination rounds. After a quick look at this thread, I see at least 15 teams that have reportedly already been involved in a triple balance (correct me if I'm wrong):

67, 85, 245, 469, 494, 548, 573, 1023, 1684, 1918, 2337, 2852, 3098, 3601, and 3656

548, 573, and 2337 defy the odds as long bots joining that group

While i dig what 2852 dose outside of Michigan and was totally on their bandwagon at GTR-E and Waterloo (finalist trying to take down the brothers of domination). 2851 is who you were thinking of.

Mullen 02-04-2012 13:01

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Originally Posted by Ryan Caldwell (Post 1152903)
While i dig what 2852 dose outside of Michigan and was totally on their bandwagon at GTR-E and Waterloo (finalist trying to take down the brothers of domination). 2851 is who you were thinking of.


Woops - that typo has been fixed. I didn't mean to leave Crevolution out. I'm sure our double triple from Waterford will be happening again here.

Ryan Caldwell 02-04-2012 13:05

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Oh i'd put money on seeing the double triple again at MSC. I'd also put money on the fact that the coopratition award is going to have to be cut into several pieces, or they can spend another twelve bucks for the all the teams with 24 CP's

Clinton Bolinger 02-04-2012 13:11

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Originally Posted by Ryan Caldwell (Post 1152913)
Oh i'd put money on seeing the double triple again at MSC. I'd also put money on the fact that the coopratition award is going to have to be cut into several pieces, or they can spend another twelve bucks for the all the teams with 24 CP's

Technically you can win the Coopertition Award by never actually Cooping with anyone.

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6.5 Coopertition™ Award
To determine the winner of the Cooperition Award, the FMS will rank all teams in decreasing order, using the following sorting criteria:

1st Order Sort 2 x Coopertition Score - Qualification Score
2nd Order Sort Coopertition Score

The team or teams receiving the top ranking after both sorts will receive the Coopertition Award.
So whatever team gets the most CP and loses the most matches win the Coopertition Award.

-Clinton-

Koko Ed 02-04-2012 13:29

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Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1152917)
Technically you can win the Coopertition Award by never actually Cooping with anyone.



So whatever team gets the most CP and loses the most matches win the Coopertition Award.

-Clinton-

The Coopertition Award aka the thing to be most likely dumped by IRI.

Bjenks548 02-04-2012 15:23

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Originally Posted by Mullen (Post 1152891)
This team list should make for some exciting elimination rounds. After a quick look at this thread
548, 573, and 2337 defy the odds as long bots joining that group

I wouldn't call it defying the odds. I know all 3 teams can hang a signficant portion of their robot off the end of the bridge. I don't know the numbers for 2337 and 573, but 548 only needs 16" of the bridge to stay on. Should be a great event with crazy eliminations!

pathew100 02-04-2012 16:25

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Also, a reminder to all teams who are attending the Michigan State Championship:

This is a "3-day" event. That means there is NO "Robot Access Period" before the event. This means no unbagging at your shop before the event!

Link to agenda: http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2...hip/agenda.pdf

MagiChau 02-04-2012 19:06

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Originally Posted by pathew100 (Post 1153043)
Also, a reminder to all teams who are attending the Michigan State Championship:

This is a "3-day" event. That means there is NO "Robot Access Period" before the event. This means no unbagging at your shop before the event!

Link to agenda: http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2...hip/agenda.pdf

To add on to this, Wednesday 6-9PM will be a Robot Access Period. I believe last year the robot had to remain in the bag on Wednesday. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Bjenks548 03-04-2012 19:52

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[quote=VexisDarksteele;1152580]Yes, and you guys actually have a really good chance of it. I personally know of a team that's qualified that is struggling to find the funds for it, and they may not be able to attend due to not having the $4,000.

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Would you mind telling me what team this is? Last year we helped a team fund their way to states and would like to help again.

VexisDarksteele 03-04-2012 19:58

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Originally Posted by Bjenks548 (Post 1153727)
Quote:

Originally Posted by VexisDarksteele (Post 1152580)
Yes, and you guys actually have a really good chance of it. I personally know of a team that's qualified that is struggling to find the funds for it, and they may not be able to attend due to not having the $4,000.

Would you mind telling me what team this is? Last year we helped a team fund their way to states and would like to help again.

Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see their name appear on the confirmed teams list this afternoon. It's 3656, Dexter's team. Their mentors weren't sure about funding when we spoke to them two weeks ago, because the school district had to make some repairs to the building from the tornado. I'm not sure if they still need financial help, but you could always try contacting their team. :)

Bjenks548 03-04-2012 21:34

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Originally Posted by VexisDarksteele (Post 1153732)
Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see their name appear on the confirmed teams list this afternoon. It's 3656, Dexter's team. Their mentors weren't sure about funding when we spoke to them two weeks ago, because the school district had to make some repairs to the building from the tornado. I'm not sure if they still need financial help, but you could always try contacting their team. :)

Thanks! Crazy last year we help 3539 the byting bulldogs (our co-champ from waterford) now we get to reach out to the Dreadbots (our co-champs from Northville this year).

Ed Law 04-04-2012 11:58

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The ranking list has been updated to include all tiebreaks. You can find it on http://www.firstinmichigan.us/FRC_20...12_season.html. I have to go to the 8th tiebreak to separate all 190 teams. If you find an error, please let me know. The same semi-automated process to rank the teams will be used at the Michigan State Championship and the list of teams who advance to World Championship will be announced at the end of the Award ceremony. I want to make sure the process that is used is 100% correct as there is no time to check for error at the State Championship.

johnr 04-04-2012 13:10

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Is there any way to mark the rankings with wether or not a team accepted the invite to champs? Maybe an * in the team number column to show that they quilified but declined invite. The question comes up every year how far down they had to go and this would be a quick way to find it.

Roboeagles 04-04-2012 14:02

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Our team almost was not able to attend because of funding. The school provided the money but our team will have to fundraise to pay it back.

Debbie 04-04-2012 14:07

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Originally Posted by Roboeagles (Post 1154107)
Our team almost was not able to attend because of funding. The school provided the money but our team will have to fundraise to pay it back.

We do a "200 for $20" campaign for states. We make fliers and tell that we qualified for states and are trying to earn the money to go. We try to find 200 people that will give $20. We have 30 kids on the team, and we set a goal of each one trying to get 7- 8 $20 sponsors. We canvas our township and pass out fliers to all of the businesses. We have done this for the past 3 years and we earn the money very quickly. Many people are willing to chip in a small amount if you have earned the rights to go. Feel free to give it a try, and if you want to see our flier, just message me, or check our team webpage. The first year we did it, we only had a week to earn it, and we had our $4,000 in 2 days. Just have to get the team to post on FB, pass out fliers, and get involved with it. Hope that helps! Good luck and see you in a week!

Ed Law 04-04-2012 15:46

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Originally Posted by johnr (Post 1154064)
Is there any way to mark the rankings with wether or not a team accepted the invite to champs? Maybe an * in the team number column to show that they quilified but declined invite. The question comes up every year how far down they had to go and this would be a quick way to find it.

I like your idea. It will be interesting to see. The easiest way to do it is to wait until the 64 teams are registered, then compare the spreadsheet to see who is not going. However posting it online on FiM website will only last a few days as it will be replaced as soon as the State Championship is over and new ranking is posted. We do not want too many colors showing too many things as it can get confusing. If I have time, I will do that and post it here on this thread.

Roboeagles 05-04-2012 07:35

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Thanks Debbie - I'll take a look at your website. We might borrow the idea. :)

Debbie 05-04-2012 08:06

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Originally Posted by Roboeagles (Post 1154490)
Thanks Debbie - I'll take a look at your website. We might borrow the idea. :)

No Problem. It really is an easy way to quickly collect your state fee! :) Let me know if you need anything!


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