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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1156343)

With the qualification matches on Thursday, my question is will judges be making official rounds/interviews at all on Thursday?

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by Dancin103 (Post 1156345)

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/2...p-team-agenda/

4:00 PM

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by Dancin103 (Post 1156345)

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

4-6 PM. My guess about 2 matches per team. A nice little bonus if you ask me.

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by JR. (Post 1156347)

http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/2...p-team-agenda/

4:00 PM

Oh sweet deal! I must have looked right over that!

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by Dancin103 (Post 1155981)

I applaud this :D
I wonder why teams like 341 still register in spite of this. They already won the Boston regional.

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Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux (Post 1156183)

Seriously? You're questioning why a team wants to play in their region's championship event? This is a competition you know.

357 is looking forward to playing with all of the great teams from the MAR district events, especially some of the NJ teams we haven't seen yet. We will not be attending the Championship event, so this is it for us this year. Good luck to all the teams competing!

Last time I checked, this event is called "Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship" not the "Mid-Atlantic Region Qualifying Event". This is about the best MAR teams competing for the first ever MAR championship. It is an honor to qualify and compete in this special event. Sure, the top performers will earn CMP qualification spots awarded, but that is far from the main purpose of the event.

Those that are looking at MAR champs as simply a qualifier of CMP are underestimating what is in front of them. Every team at MAR champ has elimination experience, making the 12 qualifying matches more like a 3 day elimination tournament. Outside of FiM, teams have never seen anything like this (except for the few teams in the region that have make the pilgrimage to IRI). My most mind blowing observation when I started watching the Michigan State Championship, is that quality of play in the qualifications is clearly better than division qualifications (many "reasonably astute observers" would agree). Sure the division will produce a better elim field of 24, but during the quals those 24 are spread out among the a huge division (now more than 100 teams).

MAR is about half the size of FiM, but I still expect consistent quality from the teams and highly competitive qualification matches. The teams are familiar with each other, so strategies and counter-strategies will have more opportunity to develop. I also expect a stronger 24 team elim field than any of the regionals, many of which had more than 54 teams.

I wish 103, 555 1143 & all the other qualified teams could attend, but understand that they cannot. As great as this event will be, we will always know it would have been even better with them. I hope the scheduler gives my teams (365 & 4342) matches with/against all the teams we haven't had a match with this year (somehow at 37 team Chestnut Hill, 365 & 341 were never in the same match). This should be a fun new experience for all teams.

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1156335)

Gogo broken quote chain!

The messed up quote names are pretty funny. I made it a point to multi quote so I could see what names show up, but they were correct.

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by waitwhat? (Post 1156164)

The 2012 MAR Regional Championship will be on webcast at the following link:

http://www.powercord869.com/webcast/

If anyone has any questions please feel free to PM me. Everything should be up and running for the Thursday matches.

"Good Luck to everyone and see you all at the competition!"

(Now I'm knowingly quoting the game animation) haha :cool:

Thanks for providing the webcast for all us poor souls who won't be able to make it! :)

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1156054)

I wonder why teams like 341 still register in spite of this. They already won the Boston regional.

Perhaps they are showing their unwavering support for MAR in its first year. Not everyone in the area fully supports MAR, and by attending they are sending a clear message that they do.

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Originally Posted by Wayne C. (Post 1156302)

Perhaps the MAR group should look towards giving a free registration to the MAR Championship to the winners of the Qualifier tournaments.

I know of at least one excellent team not attending Philly because of lack of funding, so this suggestion has real merit. I will be sure to bring this to the MAR Board; I urge others to do so as well - they'll all be in Philly.

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looking forward to the MAR championship. it's gonna be tough going up against other good teams. hopefully 365 and 341 get in a match together!

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1156404)

There are grants available from MAR to help teams pay for the MAR Championships. Many teams have already taken advantage of this.

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If people need things this weekend at the MAR regional. my house is 10 minutes from the event and 3929's shop is 15 minutes away.

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

So I guess this will be a 53 team competition, then?

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53 teams doesn't work well with scheduling unless each team plays 12 matches and I don't believe that will be the case...106 qualification matches!

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by LH Machinist (Post 1156814)

53 teams doesn't work well with scheduling unless each team plays 12 matches and I don't believe that will be the case...106 qualification matches!

At the local kickoffs, MAR teams were promised 12 qualification matches per event and I don't think that number is going to change for the state championship. The goal for Thursday is to get two complete rounds finished, leaving 10 matches per team to be played between Friday and Saturday, which is definitely feasible.

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Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (with 12 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's highest adjusted opr at any event for their contribution to a match, based on Ed Law's data. I calculated the results for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

Since the standings are much more complicated this year, I did not try to calculate the standings. This is only the contribution of w-l-t to the qualification score (eg 2 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, no points for a loss).

Everyone should attend Karthik's presentation where he covers "Why 'OPR' is a flawed indicator in Rebound Rumble".

Code:

        OPR        Average        Median        Mode        Min        Max        StDev

1218        36.19        21.58        22        22        16        24        1.74

341        35.38        21.425        22        22        15        24        1.88

25        33.75        21.165        22        22        15        24        1.94

365        33.63        20.975        22        22        16        24        1.98

1676        29.47        19.12        20        20        8        24        2.57

222        24.18        16.585        16        16        10        24        2.85

1089        21.98        16.055        16        16        6        22        2.71

1279        21.96        15.825        16        18        10        24        2.99

1403        21.91        15.73        16        16        10        22        2.54

357        21.58        15.675        16        16        8        22        2.69

316        19.83        14.555        14        14        5        22        2.97

2180        19.62        14.795        14        14        7        22        3.17

224        18.83        14.35        14        14        8        20        2.67

423        18.21        13.365        14        12        6        20        3.04

2590        17.97        13.555        14        14        6        21        2.94

486        17.69        13.5        14        12        6        21        2.87

11        17.50        13.86        14        14        4        22        2.96

225        16.84        13.045        13        12        6        22        2.84

834        16.65        13.625        13        12        6        22        2.93

1712        16.46        12.565        12        14        5        19        2.70

2234        15.92        12.405        12        14        5        21        2.78

714        15.56        12.545        12        12        4        21        3.07

223        15.33        11.83        12        12        4        19        2.81

4342        15.15        12.155        12        14        4        22        3.22

56        14.91        11.645        12        12        4        20        3.18

272        14.77        11.855        12        12        4        22        2.92

1302        14.53        11.915        12        12        6        20        2.75

2016        14.46        11.235        11.5        10        3        18        2.83

1640        14.03        11.285        12        12        3        18        2.86

869        13.29        10.725        11        12        4        18        2.79

484        12.42        10.14        10        12        2        18        2.90

3314        12.28        10.145        10        10        2        18        2.77

2607        12.16        10.105        10        12        4        18        2.90

816        12.12        10.355        10        12        3        18        2.90

303        12.02        9.89        10        10        2        16        2.80

2729        10.51        9.385        10        10        0        16        2.70

1370        10.51        9.715        10        10        2        19        3.11

1391        10.51        9.315        9        8        2        19        2.93

708        10.38        9.16        9        8        2        16        2.93

3929        10.19        9.18        9        8        2        16        2.77

1923        10.06        9.07        9        10        2        18        2.80

3974        9.79        9.19        9        8        2        22        2.85

3637        9.62        8.865        8        8        2        16        2.93

75        9.36        8.39        8        10        2        16        2.84

1647        9.28        8.44        8        8        2        18        2.72

1168        8.20        7.85        8        8        0        15        2.76

433        7.94        7.915        8        8        2        16        2.65

3142        7.34        7.555        8        8        0        14        2.78

2559        6.74        7.395        8        8        0        14        2.93

1626        6.13        6.48        6        6        0        15        2.75

1811        5.32        6.555        6        8        0        16        2.82

1672        4.80        6.21        6        6        0        12        2.54

3515        3.58        5.75        6        6        0        14        2.54

Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1156841)

Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (with 12 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's highest adjusted opr at any event for their contribution to a match. I calculated the results for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

Since the standings are much more complicated this year, I did not try to calculate the standings. This is only the contribution of w-l-t to the qualification score (eg 2 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, no points for a loss).

Everyone should attend Karthik's presentation where he covers "Why 'OPR' is a flawed indicator in Rebound Rumble".

You know it is a big event when Joe simulates it for you before the event :D
It is interesting as always, thanks Joe.