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waialua359 11-05-2012 17:55
Re: Championship 2014 Proposal
 
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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1168809)
Its not that it fit better its that there is more to do in ATL that is close to the venue and you didn't have to spend 12 bucks a meal to get a crappy ham sandwich, chips, tiny bottle of water, and a cookie/brownie.

The only thing that STL has over ATL is the walk from the pits to the field for both the drive teams and the people who walked from the pits to the stands is MUCH shorter. Otherwise STL is behind ATL by a huge margin.
That's what we loved best about this year.
Of the approx. 400 robots at CMP this year, our pit was THE closest to entering the fields.:p

JohnSchneider 12-05-2012 01:21
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1168825)
What happened?
The first time a guy off the street walked up and started pushing on a student, trying to start a fight I guess. Our student acted very mature and just stood there. The guy stopped, but we were followed by him and 2 of his friends all the way to the dome.

The second time a group of people came over and stole a hat off one of our mentors heads and started harassing the entire team.

Needless to say we had a much more pleasant experience in St. Louis. Especially downtown. We felt perfectly safe there. :p

Siri 12-05-2012 03:18
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Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1168892)
The first time a guy off the street walked up and started pushing on a student, trying to start a fight I guess. Our student acted very mature and just stood there. The guy stopped, but we were followed by him and 2 of his friends all the way to the dome.

The second time a group of people came over and stole a hat off one of our mentors heads and started harassing the entire team.

Needless to say we had a much more pleasant experience in St. Louis. Especially downtown. We felt perfectly safe there. :p
I was physically assaulted in St. Louis this year as well as later harassed. On the all it is probably better than Atlanta, though.

AshWalker 12-05-2012 14:31
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Part of the selection criteria FIRST went through when finding a bidding out a new site for Championship was having a stadium with convention center attached. That chopped down the venue list drastically since there are only a few of those in the country. I hear it is still a requirement for when they re-bid next year.

Then it moved to what cities have good public transportation, an airport that can accommodate a lot of people, and hotels near the venue.

I heard everyone would have loved to do Vegas since they could have put on a great show and handled the crowds but with so many kids Vegas probably wouldn't want us.

Alex2614 19-04-2013 01:38
Re: Championship 2014 Proposal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1168809)
Its not that it fit better its that there is more to do in ATL that is close to the venue and you didn't have to spend 12 bucks a meal to get a crappy ham sandwich, chips, tiny bottle of water, and a cookie/brownie.

The only thing that STL has over ATL is the walk from the pits to the field for both the drive teams and the people who walked from the pits to the stands is MUCH shorter. Otherwise STL is behind ATL by a huge margin.
I agree. Atlanta had a LOT more open space both within the venue and outside. Between Centennial Olympic Park, the CNN Center, the huge plaza between the World Congress Center and the dome, and the HUGE lobby of the GWCC, it was able to accomodate us a lot better. I liked that everything was in one giant space, including the finale. As a freshman and junior, I was very impressed and awe-struck in ATL, but in STL I just feel cramped and crowded.

The CMP could always move to Morgantown, though :eek: We have a few hotels and a football stadium and an airport :D

I-DOG 19-04-2013 02:16
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Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1153612)
Perhaps a convention center would be a better fit. (I have changed the original proposal to use the LA Convention Center, and the Staples Center for finals.)
The George R. Brown Convention Center would easily host the 8 division and then you could have the finals at Reliant. It already hosts the Lone Star Regional in a small section every year so I can't imagine it being too difficult to expand it across the entire convention center. It might be a Texan's bias but Houston would be one of the best cities to use for Championship. It's central location is favorable to teams from all regions.

Cory 19-04-2013 03:04
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Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1264688)
The George R. Brown Convention Center would easily host the 8 division and then you could have the finals at Reliant. It already hosts the Lone Star Regional in a small section every year so I can't imagine it being too difficult to expand it across the entire convention center. It might be a Texan's bias but Houston would be one of the best cities to use for Championship. It's central location is favorable to teams from all regions.
Houston is really far from pretty much everyone when you look at driving distance.

stephenmcd71 19-04-2013 06:44
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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 1153639)
We could put 8 fields and the pits in Lucas Oil but the FTC and FLL wouldn't fit and would have to stay next door in the convention center.
I would love to see the Championship in Indianapolis or at the United Center in Chicago.

Calvin Hartley 19-04-2013 07:42
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I must agree that we should keep all FIRST programs at the same Championship, I know as an FLL student I enjoyed looking at "the big robots" and as an FRC student, I do still enjoy looking through the FLL teams' work. I'm looking forward to it!

Banderoonies 19-04-2013 07:54
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Originally Posted by pwnageNick (Post 1153619)
McCormick Convention Center followed by United Center (Madhouse on Madison) in Chicago. Has an international airport (O'Hare) and is centrally located in the US.

-Nick
I totally agree with Chicago. It is easy to fly there from many states being a major hub.

STL has been a LOT more expensive to fly to that ATL ever was.

1683cadder 19-04-2013 09:28
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Championship may come back to Atl soon. At Peachtree, Atlanta sent a rep to tell us Atlanta is trying to get championship back.

OZ_341 19-04-2013 09:32
Re: Championship 2014 Proposal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1168897)
I was physically assaulted in St. Louis this year as well as later harassed. On the all it is probably better than Atlanta, though.
Our last year in Atlanta 2010, we were approached 3 times by different characters on the street. All 3 were dangerous situations. I grew up in Philly, so I know the difference.
The last incident happened about 5 blocks from the CNN Center, when two nuts with a Taser approached our group. We circled the wagons and silently stood our ground, so they got bored and left. I swore right then that we would never return to Atlanta as a team. I am ultimately responsible for ensuring the safety of my students.

themagic8ball 19-04-2013 10:15
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I think 400 teams is the max we will ever see at championships. In fact, I can see FIRST implementing super regionals, and then having a much more intimate championship event only inviting the best of the best. Logistics become much easier, and just qualifying for championships becomes a prize in itself.

Lil' Lavery 19-04-2013 11:08
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Atlanta actually has a lower crime rate than St. Louis.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ga/atlanta/crime/
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mo/st-louis/crime/

Hallry 19-04-2013 11:22
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Has anyone encountered (or heard of other teams encountering) dangerous situations in St. Louis?


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