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cgmv123 19-04-2013 22:47

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Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1265050)
I think one of the main problems that would develop if there were the same percentage of FLL teams a FRC teams to their totals would be a feeling of that the competition is meant for younger kids only since there would be several thousand of them running around. (Also could you imagine the stands if there were that many FLL teams)

But as brought up above one of the main reasons why there is so little teams there is simple and has been stated above. Cost.
FRC Teams pay a registration fee of I think $5000 to attend Championship I am not sure how much FLL teams pay but it can't be anywhere near that.

I agree that there shouldn't necessarily be as many FLL teams at World Festival as there are at the FRC Championship, but I think the current system under represents FLL.

What's more, the current system makes it impossible for half the FLL teams to qualify for World Festival, and those that do only get to send 1 team out of 100+. All FRC events automatically qualify 6 teams out of as low as 30*.

*Western Canada Regional

Koko Ed 20-04-2013 02:22

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1264780)
That would probably require them to actually encounter people in St Louis, which we have never really seen.

I've only seen a couple of homeless people in St. Louis and one was being removed by police from the park from across the Dome. I think they are making an effort to keep them away from us.

Koko Ed 20-04-2013 02:24

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Originally Posted by Iaquinto.Joe (Post 1264951)

Doesn't that title belong to Flint, MI? :ahh: :yikes:

Flint looks like the Zombie Apocalypse came and went.

OZ_341 20-04-2013 08:57

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Originally Posted by Alex2614 (Post 1264824)
You think any city is completely safe? Everybody has different experiences. .....

Yes I get that and understand what you are saying. As I said I grew up in the city and love cities. I might even go back to Atlanta on my own if I had a reason to do so. But I won't ever take someone elses children there again. In my previous post, I failed to mention that someone was shot in Olympic Park the day before the FIRST Finale and I know two different teams that witnessed grab & run bag thefts inside hotels. So I had only mentioned a small portion of the things I witnessed there from 2004 - 2010. That being said this is all anecdotal so make of it what you wish.

Anthony Galea 20-04-2013 12:56

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1264893)
That wasnt a robot related comment. Detroit is literally the most dangerous city in America.

I was thinking COBO center. It's a large building and the area around there is pretty safe.

Koko Ed 20-04-2013 13:24

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Originally Posted by OZ_341 (Post 1265170)
Yes I get that and understand what you are saying. As I said I grew up in the city and love cities. I might even go back to Atlanta on my own if I had a reason to do so. But I won't ever take someone elses children there again. In my previous post, I failed to mention that someone was shot in Olympic Park the day before the FIRST Finale and I know two different teams that witnessed grab & run bag thefts inside hotels. So I had only mentioned a small portion of the things I witnessed there from 2004 - 2010. That being said this is all anecdotal so make of it what you wish.

Actually I think the shooting occurred a mere couple of hours before the finale.

Ivan Malik 20-04-2013 15:46

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Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1265232)
I was thinking COBO center. It's a large building and the area around there is pretty safe.

It's just plain to small... compare that to the setup in STL. COBO is tiny by comparison. The Joe is only big enough for two fields too. If only there was something closer to ford field, then the D would be a possibility.

As stated before, every city has its bad areas and its good areas. Detroit is actually rather safe... if you know where you're going. It is rather easy to get turned around though and be in a bad spot rather quickly. There is very little of the traditional grid pattern to the city (It's a wheel instead). To those in SE Michigan it's no big deal we just know where to go, but to someone who has never been to the city, it is confusing as all get. Add in the fact that almost every mile rd could be called by a different name than is actually on the street sign and any non-Michigander is lost in a heart beat.:ahh:

drew.spillers 20-04-2013 15:57

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1265152)
Flint looks like the Zombie Apocalypse came and went.

We don't eat brains that much anymore, only on holidays :)

Steven Donow 20-04-2013 20:55

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VEX Championships was just announced as April 23-26th...looks like that means next year's FRC Championship will be in May...that just sounds strange...

BigJ 20-04-2013 20:57

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Originally Posted by DevenStonow (Post 1265454)
VEX Championships was just announced as April 23-26th...looks like that means next year's FRC Championship will be in May...that just sounds strange...

No sir, it's been listed as the same weekend for at least a week here (first time I looked at this page recently)

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...pionship-event

Interesting.

PayneTrain 20-04-2013 20:59

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FIRST has had their dates and location for the 2014 event since the end of the 2012 Champs, IIRC.

Steven Donow 20-04-2013 21:00

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Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1265456)
No sir, it's been listed as the same weekend for at least a week here (first time I looked at this page recently)

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...pionship-event

Interesting.

That makes things even more interesting...also the VEX announcement didn't have a graphic or anything, it was just during president of the REC(robotics education commission? I'm not too familiar with VEX oranizations) giving a speech...

Wetzel 20-04-2013 21:05

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Originally Posted by DevenStonow (Post 1265462)
That makes things even more interesting...also the VEX announcement didn't have a graphic or anything, it was just during president of the REC(robotics education commission? I'm not too familiar with VEX oranizations) giving a speech...

Robotics Education & Competition Foundation, they are a non-profit organization that works with VEX.

CLandrum3081 21-04-2013 12:19

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Chicago would be a little bit closer for MN teams...But I do like the idea of East/West Championships, and 400 at each. Where would the dividing line be? I could see it being the "Missisip'" as my Texan relatives call it (:p ) but I would hate the separation from our friends in Wisconsin. Either way the Midwest would probably get cut in half.

In response to the "robots = danger" theory on this thread, MN has one of the highest "robot densities" in the nation (we have 180 FRC teams and not a whole lot of people...probably only second to Michigan) - I didn't realize how dangerous MN was! :)

Siri 21-04-2013 20:19

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Originally Posted by CLandrum3081 (Post 1265692)
Chicago would be a little bit closer for MN teams...But I do like the idea of East/West Championships, and 400 at each. Where would the dividing line be? I could see it being the "Missisip'" as my Texan relatives call it (:p ) but I would hate the separation from our friends in Wisconsin. Either way the Midwest would probably get cut in half.

Likely, but there's nothing that says FIRST has to draw the line themselves. They could--if they wanted to--allow a conference system for border teams to opt one way or the other. NEFIRST is/was considering one for their district model, though I don't believe FIRST has ruled on it yet.


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