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mjustice66 08-04-2012 14:48

2012 MSC
 
So who's excited for MSC this year. I know I am especially after witnessing Troy.

Squeakypig 08-04-2012 15:29

Re: 2012 MSC
 
The things that are going to happen at this tournament...definitely worth taking a break from college for :D .

I really hope there are multiple teams with flawless coop records here to make it really interesting. I know that's what Troy was!

ChristopherSD 08-04-2012 23:22

Re: 2012 MSC
 
It'll be a Coopertition competition more than anything else. :cool:

nikeairmancurry 09-04-2012 00:04

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherSD (Post 1155689)
It'll be a Coopertition competition more than anything else. :cool:

Atleast the first two days...

Ed Law 09-04-2012 00:15

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherSD (Post 1155689)
It'll be a Coopertition competition more than anything else. :cool:

I think it is more like an "Avoid not being able to balance on Coopertition bridge" during qualifying rounds. When most teams can balance on coopertition bridge, it will not be a deciding factor towards the seeding. It will be back to WLT.

IKE 09-04-2012 07:24

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1155717)
I think it is more like an "Avoid not being able to balance on Coopertition bridge" during qualifying rounds. When most teams can balance on coopertition bridge, it will not be a deciding factor towards the seeding. It will be back to WLT.

Unless you are on on the field when it goes bad. Then you instantly drop relative to the rest of the field.

ChristopherSD 09-04-2012 14:51

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1155717)
When most teams can balance on coopertition bridge, it will not be a deciding factor towards the seeding. It will be back to WLT.


I hope you're correct when it comes to win/loss records. Can't say I'm a fan of seeing undefeated teams in 10th place.

AdamHeard 09-04-2012 14:54

Re: 2012 MSC
 
With co-op happening more, and it swinging back closer to WLT I see some interesting things happening.

I see it shifting more towards the lesser scorers on the alliance doing co-op, in an effort to win the match, possibly resulting in less reliable co-op robots and a failure to do so, hurting everyone on the field.

Chris Hibner 09-04-2012 15:06

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1155917)
With co-op happening more, and it swinging back closer to WLT I see some interesting things happening.

I see it shifting more towards the lesser scorers on the alliance doing co-op, in an effort to win the match, possibly resulting in less reliable co-op robots and a failure to do so, hurting everyone on the field.

I was thinking of this same thing. There will definitely be a lot of hard thinking about who should handle the bridge.

As far as undefeated teams being ranked 10th, I don't inherently have a problem with it. Going undefeated and being ranked 10th tells me there is a strategy issue (qualification strategy, that is). I'm sure there are plenty of teams that would have fewer losses if they valued winning above the co-op bridge.

qzrrbz 09-04-2012 15:08

Re: 2012 MSC
 
A wild card at MSC should be alliance bridge capability. I expect to see a *lot* of "6 bridge" matches...

BigJ 09-04-2012 16:09

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qzrrbz (Post 1155924)
A wild card at MSC should be alliance bridge capability. I expect to see a *lot* of "6 bridge" matches...

I refer to these affectionately as Triple Doubles and i wish that was an actual term in the manual even if it gave no bonus

DjScribbles 09-04-2012 16:32

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Our team is officially excited! It's going to be a long 1.5 (and counting) days of work...

Clinton Bolinger 09-04-2012 16:38

Re: 2012 MSC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1155917)
With co-op happening more, and it swinging back closer to WLT I see some interesting things happening.

I see it shifting more towards the lesser scorers on the alliance doing co-op, in an effort to win the match, possibly resulting in less reliable co-op robots and a failure to do so, hurting everyone on the field.

Personally, I see the better scoring machines doing the coop.

I can't see a team like HOT leaving it up to another team to balance the coop bridge, when it is so important to ranking. Also I do not see a team like HOT agreeing to balance with a less capable shooting machine while 469 cleans up in the last 30 seconds.

I do think that the average time to balance on the coop bridge to be more around the 30 second mark rather then the 45+ at previous district events.

-Clinton-

Grim Tuesday 09-04-2012 19:16

Re: 2012 MSC
 
The politics surrounding the bridge at MSC shall be very interesting.

Squeakypig 09-04-2012 20:17

Re: 2012 MSC
 
The coop bridge at MSC will be very similar to Troy I believe.

"My stats say that you are the best balancer on your alliance...we want you to balance with us."


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