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davidthefat 11-04-2012 01:16

James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
http://www.tgdaily.com/entertainment...uce-robogeddon

lemiant 11-04-2012 01:42

This could be awesome! I think many FIRST teams should consider it, if it pans out. For years battlebots has suffered from poor organization, but *hopefully* no longer :).

LemmingBot 14-04-2012 20:27

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
To be honest I don't really dig robot fight shows, its a lot of money (aka: thousands more than a FIRST bot) to be wasting on something that will get torn up in a match or two. Its also less about the science and stuff behind the machine and more about the spectacle of two things tearing each other apart.

Or I'm just sick of being confused with Battlebots... regardless, thats my two cents.:)

Billfred 15-04-2012 10:28

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
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Originally Posted by LemmingBot (Post 1157995)
To be honest I don't really dig robot fight shows, its a lot of money (aka: thousands more than a FIRST bot) to be wasting on something that will get torn up in a match or two. Its also less about the science and stuff behind the machine and more about the spectacle of two things tearing each other apart.

Or I'm just sick of being confused with Battlebots... regardless, thats my two cents.:)

I do find it interesting that, ten years after BattleBots went off the air, I still get that every time I talk about FRC. (Even last night, I got that.)

I was talking with friends over Facebook and Twitter about an opening for a full-contact competition--task-based, no destructive weapons (tipping and ramming is in, flamethrowers and saws are out), robots somewhere in between FRC and FTC/VRC in scale, and leave your bumpers at home. I imagine there's got to be room in the middle.

popnbrown 15-04-2012 22:36

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
Have you ever heard of Jerry Sanders? http://jsdc.ec.illinois.edu/

Competition held at UIUC, and used to be quite big I hear. Still has about 15ish teams, from 4 universities I believe.

Although, the concept of alliances, is like soo fricking cool. I mean the bridge-balancing this year, is nothing like JSDC.

Koko Ed 17-04-2012 13:22

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
Whatever happened to that Battlebots thing ESPN was supposedly doing?

AlexH 17-04-2012 14:17

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
it died after they couldn't sell the advertising space for the show. the footage still exists and some is on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/user/BattleBotsTV?ob=0


the speculation from the robot combat community is this is going to be real steel style biped robots, not traditional combat robots.

Koko Ed 17-04-2012 16:04

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
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Originally Posted by AlexH (Post 1159154)
it died after they couldn't sell the advertising space for the show. the footage still exists and some is on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/user/BattleBotsTV?ob=0


the speculation from the robot combat community is this is going to be real steel style biped robots, not traditional combat robots.

So if ESPN can't make it work what makes James Cameron think he's going to succeed? I think we're in for another false start on this again.

AlexH 17-04-2012 17:20

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
about every year or so battlebots has some tv deal that falls through.

Koko Ed 17-04-2012 18:15

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
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Originally Posted by AlexH (Post 1159240)
about every year or so battlebots has some tv deal that falls through.

Battlebots is so last century. The idea needs an upgrade.

Alex Cormier 17-04-2012 18:18

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexH (Post 1159154)
it died after they couldn't sell the advertising space for the show. the footage still exists and some is on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/user/BattleBotsTV?ob=0


the speculation from the robot combat community is this is going to be real steel style biped robots, not traditional combat robots.

Which forum is this? I haven't been into it for a few years now. Would be nice to get back into it. I still have parts somewhere to build a bot.

JohnBoucher 17-04-2012 18:20

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
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Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1158156)

I was talking with friends over Facebook and Twitter about an opening for a full-contact competition--task-based, no destructive weapons (tipping and ramming is in, flamethrowers and saws are out), robots somewhere in between FRC and FTC/VRC in scale, and leave your bumpers at home. I imagine there's got to be room in the middle.

Sign me up :D

Billfred 17-04-2012 18:56

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1159207)
So if ESPN can't make it work what makes James Cameron think he's going to succeed? I think we're in for another false start on this again.

Three things:

1) Mark Burnett is behind a metric ton of successful TV shows. Survivor, The Apprentice, The Voice, etc. Clearly he's figured something out.
2) James Cameron is very much a figure-out-a-new-way-to-show-this kind of guy.
3) Discovery has shown occasional one-off combat robot shows already, and they've already seen the returns on tapping that community. (Consider that 60% of the cast of Mythbusters had notable combat robots.)

If anything is going to jump-start the genre, it's this group.

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1159262)
Battlebots is so last century. The idea needs an upgrade.

I'm inclined to agree; the format has gone basically unchanged: get too low to be wedged, avoid the hazards, out-push your opponent, and have something capable of spinning up a wallop or flipping your opponent. Even different terrain would make it more interesting--imagine an arena covered in driveway gravel and what it would do to our mental image of a combat robot. Very different game then.

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Originally Posted by JohnBoucher (Post 1159266)
Sign me up :D

This is something that would be fun to explore, if there were enough teams in an area to get a proper event together. It's interesting to note that all the folks I talked with before you posted were in Florida. Parking lot showdown after next year's Orlando Regional? :D

AlexH 17-04-2012 21:00

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 1159264)
Which forum is this? I haven't been into it for a few years now. Would be nice to get back into it. I still have parts somewhere to build a bot.

the robot fighting league forum http://forums.delphiforums.com/THERFL



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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1159262)
Battlebots is so last century. The idea needs an upgrade.

the sport has really evolved in the past few years. robots have gotten more destructive and cheaper with icbm's (inexpensive chinese burshless motors), lipo batteries and other cheaper electronics. the other big change is the "sportsman class" which outright bans wedges and high kinetic energy weapons, which leaves room for more creative bots. arena hazards also don't exist anymore and floors are often plywood which gets scared and chewed up which creates an uneven surface which forces robots to have a higher ground clearance.


for anyone who's interested and in florida there is a battebots event coming up soon http://buildersdb.com/eventdetail.asp?eventid=348

keneajer 18-04-2012 11:37

Re: James Cameron is to Produce a Robot Show on Discovery
 
I dont think that the whole battle bots hasn't completed gone away. I know that there is a program that like FIRST you can join but more like battle bots. The program is called bots IQ. I know when I was in High School there was both a FRC team and a bots IQ team.


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