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Tom Ore 18-04-2012 17:30

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1159697)
Mind listing these?

From the thread on triple balancers:

Archimedes:
67 236 245 781 956 973 1114 1756 2056 2557 3456 4001 4206

Curie:
51 85 244 341 694 830 1501 2522 3098 3711 3940 3970

Galileo:
16 25 33 125 148 573 1350 1425 1671 1718 1732 1747 1918 2054 2337 2486 2928 3322 4028 4090 4146

Newton:
45 118 360 469 548 610 639 1023 1635 1640 1662 2200 2936 3230 3310

snowmobiler9 18-04-2012 17:31

Re: Divisions 2012
 
I don't know how prevalent this is for other teams, but 706 has fixed its shooting issues discovered at the WI regional. We now will actually be able to score a considerable amount of baskets compared to only 1 tele-op point all of the regional. If other teams in the mid to low end spectrum of OPR's have done the same, then divisions should be even more competitive than on paper. We expect our OPR of 9.4 to at least double. Has this trend been seen in the past or are we a singularity. Also who else knows of a team doing the same thing?

In regards to the triple balance post above, 706 has triple balance with ease on the practice field. I don't know if that counts though. =D (Curie)

Madison 18-04-2012 17:33

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by snowmobiler9 (Post 1159706)
I don't know how prevalent this is for other teams, but 706 has fixed its shooting issues discovered at the WI regional. We know will actually be able to score a considerable amount of baskets compared to only 1 tele-op point all of the regional. If other teams in the mid to low end spectrum of OPR's have done the same, then divisions should be even more competitive than on paper. We expect our OPR of 9.4 to at least double. Has this trend been seen in the past or are we a singularity. Also who else knows of a team doing the same thing?

We've knocked our reload time down by about half.

Ekcrbe 18-04-2012 17:42

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1159588)
Cool trend though, I didn't realize we were that high up there.

I was thinking the same thing. I think our team is expecting a performance better than what we had at our districts, but I didn't think we would be in the upper quarter of our division. (I know that 25/99 is technically not top 25%, but that was my initial thought)

On the other hand, I'm excited to see some of the teams we will get to compete with. I had been hoping to see 111 and 118 for a while now.

rlowe61 18-04-2012 17:48

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1159581)
My quick look provides...
Arch:
67 234 359 973 1114 1218 1676 2056
Curie:
51 233 254 341 694 971 987 1477 1986 3089
Galieo:
16 25 33 48 125 148 399 772 1538 1718 1918 2054 2337 3322
Newton:
11 45 111 118 330 340 469 548 610 1023 1717 1983 2122

Don't count out 624 in Curie, the ability to capture balls off ramp and score them in Hybrid.

Richard Wallace 18-04-2012 17:50

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1159685)
Actually adding 2 teams to each division to make each have 102(2 divisions right now have 99 and 2 have 100) would give a total of 153 matches per division. Giving each match a 6 minute cycle(load-in, match, load-out) would take just over 15 hours, which would be cutting it real close on keeping it within the 3 day timeframe.

The FRC qualifying match schedule includes 5 hours Thursday afternoon, 1.5 hours Thursday evening, 2.5 hours Friday morning, 5 hours Friday afternoon, and 2.25 hours Saturday morning. Total of 16.25 hours.

6 minute match cycle time has proved an easy target for field crews to hit this year, because real-time scoring has worked very well. At several events I have seen the field run ahead of schedule by more than ten minutes, sometimes by twenty minutes. I think the MSC crew got ahead by half an hour at one point -- right before Dean spoke. :rolleyes:

Deetman 18-04-2012 18:29

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 1159720)
The FRC qualifying match schedule includes 5 hours Thursday afternoon, 1.5 hours Thursday evening, 2.5 hours Friday morning, 5 hours Friday afternoon, and 2.25 hours Saturday morning. Total of 16.25 hours.

6 minute match cycle time has proved an easy target for field crews to hit this year, because real-time scoring has worked very well. At several events I have seen the field run ahead of schedule by more than ten minutes, sometimes by twenty minutes. I think the MSC crew got ahead by half an hour at one point -- right before Dean spoke. :rolleyes:

MAR was much the same. It seemed like every event was ahead of schedule at times. Chestnut Hill even had an hour long field issue and ended up finishing the day more or less on schedule.

Karibou 18-04-2012 19:10

Re: Divisions 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 1159720)
The FRC qualifying match schedule includes 5 hours Thursday afternoon, 1.5 hours Thursday evening, 2.5 hours Friday morning, 5 hours Friday afternoon, and 2.25 hours Saturday morning. Total of 16.25 hours.

6 minute match cycle time has proved an easy target for field crews to hit this year, because real-time scoring has worked very well. At several events I have seen the field run ahead of schedule by more than ten minutes, sometimes by twenty minutes. I think the MSC crew got ahead by half an hour at one point -- right before Dean spoke. :rolleyes:

I'll be shocked if any division falls as far behind this year as they did last year. Last year we had to scramble to get the right tubes to the right places, but this year the only thing that should really keep the field crew delayed is waiting for the drivers to take (or decline) the balls for their robot.

MagiChau 18-04-2012 19:18

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by Karibou (Post 1159750)
I'll be shocked if any division falls as far behind this year as they did last year. Last year we had to scramble to get the right tubes to the right places, but this year the only thing that should really keep the field crew delayed is waiting for the drivers to take (or decline) the balls for their robot.

Don't forget squeezing and bouncing the balls off the ground before loading them into the robot.

Patrick Seeney 18-04-2012 20:33

Re: Divisions 2012
 
Maybe I missed it...but which divisions play which divisions on Einstein?

Jared Russell 18-04-2012 20:35

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by rlowe61 (Post 1159717)
Don't count out 624 in Curie, the ability to capture balls off ramp and score them in Hybrid.

This is only a list of the teams who have done a triple balance that counts so far this season.

dodar 18-04-2012 20:35

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney (Post 1159794)
Maybe I missed it...but which divisions play which divisions on Einstein?

I believe it is A vs G and C vs N.

Joe Ross 18-04-2012 20:44

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney (Post 1159794)
Maybe I missed it...but which divisions play which divisions on Einstein?

See section 5.6.3 of the manual.

David Smellie 18-04-2012 20:46

Re: Divisions 2012
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Beatty (Post 1159677)
I see the Championship is at 398 teams. Unless I am missing something, FIRST could raise it to 408 (102 per division) and not cause any additional qualifying matches. This would allow 10 additional teams to compete with no penalty to schedule.

Mr. Bill

My understanding is that FIRSt has already sent out these additional invites as 2851 has received one and is currently trying to put the money together to go to Worlds.

BlandaTran 18-04-2012 20:51

Re: Divisions 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1159581)
My quick look provides...
Arch:
67 234 359 973 1114 1218 1676 2056
Curie:
51 233 254 341 694 971 987 1477 1986 3089
Galieo:
16 25 33 48 125 148 399 772 1538 1718 1918 2054 2337 3322
Newton:
11 45 111 118 330 340 469 548 610 1023 1717 1983 2122

Don't count out 488 on Newton either.


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