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Looks like a nice lineup on the Curie Division next week.

I expect 233, 254, 341, 987, 1477, and 1986 will offer some great competition. Good luck to all the teams!

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Originally Posted by MagiChau (Post 1159608)

Looks like a nice lineup on the Curie Division next week.

I expect 233, 254, 341, 359, 987, 1477, and 1986 will offer some great competition. Good luck to all the teams!

I expect great competition from all of these teams and more, but I can say with 100% certainty that the bolded team will not win Curie in 2012 :cool:

1501 is landing in Curie.

Team list:
27
51
58
78
85
116
120
178
192
207
233
244
254
279
288
293
341
415
433
461
503
525
537
564
571
597
604
624
694
702
706
830
836
932
971
987
1033
1143
1266
1319
1391
1477
1507
1511
1649
1678
1683
1690
1741
1764
1778
1817
1828
1885
1912
1985
1986
2102
2130
2164
2180
2474
2500
2522
2591
2626
2757
2844
2881
2914
2960
3098
3115
3132
3205
3288
3419
3528
3711
3807
3847
3860
3880
3929
3940
3941
3950
3951
3965
3970
4130
4161
4203
4226
4253
4265
4269

This is the year we break the Curie curse!!! ;)

I can't wait to analyze all of the great teams in this division. Curie feels like home being our third year landing here in a row. Looking forward to hooking up with old friends and making some new ones.

We've got some new mechanical and programming tricks to reveal at champs too. Might see if we can kick out a little video early next week.

Team 1683 TechnoTitans will be there at Curie

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Originally Posted by MagiChau (Post 1159608)

Looks like a nice lineup on the Curie Division next week.

I expect 233, 254, 341, 359, 987, 1477, and 1986 will offer some great competition. Good luck to all the teams!

359 is in Archimedes.

We are looking forward to this division.
Lots of good teams that will be fighting for the top spot.
This is definitely the year the Curie curse will be broken. :D

Can 341 break the Curie Curse?

For curiosity sake, what exactly is the Curie curse?

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Originally Posted by delsaner (Post 1159649)

For curiosity sake, what exactly is the Curie curse?

Curie has never won champs.

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Originally Posted by delsaner (Post 1159649)

For curiosity sake, what exactly is the Curie curse?

I dont think a Curie alliance has ever won championships.

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1159609)

I expect great competition from all of these teams and more, but I can say with 100% certainty that the bolded team will not win Curie in 2012 :cool:

Corrected now, must have been overwhelmed looking at the team list.

I'm exited to be with all these fantastic teams 341 1477 624 987 254 so many great teams we hope everyone brings their A game. Good luck.

Team Orbit 1690 will be there!!
good luck

So this is how I see it playing out...

254, 341, 971, and 987 all come in as pretty well known favorites, so they'll have a bit of a target on them from other teams. Teams will Look Forward to playing with them and dread facing off against them, though they can pretty much count on Co-op points in those matches.

There are a few other teams in this division that can put up big points. Among them are 1477, 1986, and 624. Texas Torque and CRyptonite have teamed up twice now with great success, only losing in the Lone Star finals thanks to 1477's cRIO leaving them idle both matches. Both of these teams have been practicing with 118 down at NASA, with 1477 and 118 having developed a very reliable system for triple balancing (each has a stinger and brakes) - without the drivers talking to each other. 1986 has one of the most reliable bridge mechanisms I've seen out there and an incredibly accurate shooter. Expect them to start drawing more attention as well.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about teams 3098, 233, 1507, 27, 51, or 2474 this year to say all that much about them, but they're here and did well at regionals, which tells me they'll probably be doing quite well.

It will be interesting to see how alliance selection will turn out, since almost any team with hopes for Einstein will be looking for a triple balance. This may mean some long robots will be passed over for wide-oriented machines. However, there are some long teams out there that can still manage the triple. Teams like 254, 624, 971, 987, and 1477 aren't going to just allow something like that to limit their robots.

This looks like one of the more exciting divisions to watch. I can see a lot of different outcomes, which isn't something I can say so much about the other three divisions. This will be the one I'm watching closest. Knowing Championships, most of my predictions will be laughably far off, so it'll be fun!

StuyPulse is super pumped to be on Curie. It looks like a really great division that will have some really fun qualification matches and very interesting alliance selections.

We look forward to seeing some old friends and making some new ones. I think a big part of the Curie curse is that there doesn't seem to be any awesome chant for it like GALI-LEO. We should use this thread to come up with a good one.

I can say that 1507 will give all the teams at Curie a run for their money.
I fully expect to see them in the division finals.

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1159747)

I think a big part of the Curie curse is that there doesn't seem to be any awesome chant for it like GALI-LEO. We should use this thread to come up with a good one.

MADAME

And the next poster types:

Curie

Using colors and font sizes of their choice. That's the chant for Madame Curie and the competitors on Curie. Because she's awesome like that!

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Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 1159754)

I can say that 1507 will give all the teams at Curie a run for their money.
I fully expect to see them in the division finals.

Hey, thanks! We're fully prepared to play to our fullest potential, but we'll run into some very steep competition here in Curie. I'm extremely excited to get play with (and, unfortunately, against) some of the best teams in FIRST. Can't wait!

Also

CURIE!

You all better not over look 3940. Basketball is a Hoosier game.

I am calling Boston winners vs. SVR winners for this division Good luck guys

1912 is pretty excited to end up in Curie! Its always an honor to compete against the powerhouses.

I'm the driver from rookie team 3940, and I would like to introduce you to our high-performing robot and team.

At the Boilermaker Regional we won Rookie Inspiration, were the third overall pick, and were a finalist.

At the Queen City Regional we were the 9th overall pick, received Rookie All-Star and won with teams 45 and 781. In order to win Queen City, we had to beat the number one alliance then the 1024-71-3494 alliance, then the 48-3193-1038 alliance. We would keep up with these high-performing teams in ball points and then beat them by balancing.

We are a wide drive base, 22 inches long, perfect for being in the middle of a triple balance, which we did multiple times in the Queen City finals. We're getting much better at balancing, and are practicing a lot.

Our shooter is very accurate, and flings the ball catapult-style, so the new balls in the finals don't affect us. In the finals at Queen City, we had an 88% shooting percentage, making 30 for 34 balls. We only shoot from the key and we aim for the top basket.

We can shoot 2 for 2 in hybrid mode, and can even receive balls from another robot to shoot more.

We have a strong bridge manipulator and have good traction on the bridge so we can push another robot as well as go on the bridge first to balance.

Although we are only 22 inches long, we have never tipped over in a match since our CG is incredibly low, mainly due to about 20 pounds of added weights in our base.

We have an all rookie drive team, including a rookie mentor coach, but we are prepared well by our other veteran mentors.

Here's a link of one of our finals matches from Queen City. We are the tall purple robot on red alliance.

We are excited to make new friends and have fun on Curie!

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Originally Posted by Rachel Baker (Post 1159865)

I'm the driver from rookie team 3940, and I would like to introduce you to our high-performing robot and team...

Hey, Rachel! I was glad to see you guys in our division. I can't wait to see your robot in person.

2914 is excited to be in such illustrious company, and we are looking to bring some hellacious D and bridge work to Curie. We spent the VCU regional chasing and sorting bugs, from bad CIMs to bad Jags, then rumbled through the DC regional to win it with the help of some good shooting robots.

Simple was our main design priority this year, and with four degrees of freedom we met that design criteria. A fast and consistent static bridge manipulator was the hardest feature for us to develop, but really defines our robot. Come stop by our pit, check out The Bubble, and say hi!

See you in St Louis!

Wetzel

706 is pumped up for Championships and is glad to be on curie in the presence of such powerful teams. Our division will be the most competitive of all i think. 706 had shooting issues at our only regional, but with the issues resolved, we plan to give top teams a run for that first seed :D feel free to stop by our pits. Good Luck on Curie!

Data mining is fun! (Or a problem if you ask my wife)

42 regional wins in Curie this year, from 31 teams.
There were 132 participation in elimination alliances.
341 has a guady 64-5-1 record, but 987 went undefeated at two events for a 32-0 mark. Is there another team out there still undefeated?
Repeats? We have 12 teams that paired up for regional wins.
192 and 3419 teamed up to win at Chesapeake
1985 and 1986 teamed up to win in St Louis
971 and 1678 won in Sacramento
624 and 1477 won Bayou
233 and 341 won in Boston
987 and 2844 won in Las Vegas
254 and 971 won Silicon Valley
1507 and 3951 won Finger Lakes
Will any of these teams pair up again?

1319 has been close three times, advancing to the finals at Smoky Mountains, Palmetto and Peachtree but was unable to seal the deal and win. Will they break through in St Louis?

Of the 14 rookies in Curie, 5 (3929, 3940, 3951, 4161, 4226) won a regional, a further 4 saw elimination action.

Multiple wins
341 won Hatboro-Horsham, Chestnut Hill, MARC, Boston
233 won in Orlando and Boston
971 won SVR and Sacramento
987 won LA and Los Begas
1477 won Alamo and Bayou
1507 won Finger Lakes and Buckeye
1986 won St Louis and Greater Kansas City

Wetzel

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Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 1159935)

Data mining is fun! (Or a problem if you ask my wife)

42 regional wins in Curie this year, from 31 teams.
There were 132 participation in elimination alliances.
341 has a guady 64-5-1 record, but 987 went undefeated at two events for a 32-0 mark. Is there another team out there still undefeated?
Repeats? We have 12 teams that paired up for regional wins.
192 and 3419 teamed up to win at Chesapeake
1985 and 1986 teamed up to win in St Louis
971 and 1678 won in Sacramento
624 and 1477 won Bayou
233 and 341 won in Boston
987 and 2844 won in Las Vegas
Will any of these teams pair up again?

1319 has been close three times, advancing to the finals at Smoky Mountains, Palmetto and Peachtree but was unable to seal the deal and win. Will they break through in St Louis?

Of the 14 rookies in Curie, 5 (3929, 3940, 3951, 4161, 4226) won a regional, a further 4 saw elimination action.

Wetzel

also 254 and 971 won Silicon Valley

Hey Curie,
You guys are SUPER lucky..... You guys have probably one of the best FTA's on your field as your FTAA. He (along with the great field crew) was able to start MSC 12 min late and get it up to running 30 min ahead. So he took a break for Dean to speak, and still got the schedule to ended 2 min early. To bad his partner in crime can't make it..... MI teams don't forget to give him a hard time :-)

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Originally Posted by Marjory Frosty (Post 1159955)

Come on Marjie, you know with 3098 on the field he'll have a hard time for sure ;). Very excited to play on this field with such a great group of teams. Can't WAIT

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Originally Posted by Quijas (Post 1159944)

also 254 and 971 won Silicon Valley

Thanks, added it in.

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Originally Posted by Rachel Baker (Post 1159865)

I'm the driver from rookie team 3940, and I would like to introduce you to our high-performing robot and team.

I look forward to seeing you, and your new team at St. Louis. You guys looked great in the finals match, with very accurate shooting, and your "shorty" robot is great for triple balances.

1741 is excited to be competing in the Curie division for the 2nd year in a row! We're excited to show off our dual-drive train on the world stage. See you all next week!

Up Next!, FRC Team [b]3528[b] is both humbled and honored to be a part of the Curie field in our 2nd trip across the state of Missouri to St. Louis. We are excited to play again with familiar faces such as 1986 and 525 as well as meeting new teams from across the country.

Our scissor-lift/dumping robot impressed the judges in both GKC and OKC by winning the Engineering Excellence & Creativity in Design awards. We can quickly pick up three balls and score 2 pt baskets from the fender or the side. Our 100% hybrid performance in GKC helped seed us as the #2 seed behind 1986 during week #1. In OKC we were the #1 seed and won the regional with some great alliance partners. You can see highlights from our performance in GKC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCJqXsE4w64 We improved our ball gathering conveyor between GKC and OKC to be at least two times faster than what you see here.

We never had the opportunity to practice a triple balance during competition, but our driver is experienced in balancing the bridge and we hope to get the opportunity to try a few triples next weekend.

We look forward to seeing everyone in less than a week. Look for us in the pink shirts (but don't confuse us with the Pink Team). We are..Up Next!

Sharon
FRC 3528

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Originally Posted by Marjory Frosty (Post 1159955)

I thought Galileo called dibs on Rob.

I guess I will have to swing by Curie and give him a hard time.

-Clinton-

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Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1160021)

I thought Galileo called dibs on Rob.

I guess I will have to swing by Curie and give him a hard time.

-Clinton-

It's ok Clint, I don't get him either now. Just spoke to Rob he said he's been moved to Archimedes. I guess we both miss out on him!:(

3098 is going to be on curie this year and we are looking forward to curie breaking this awefull curse but there are going to be some awesome alliances this year (:

1507 won FLR with team 3951, also in Curie.

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Originally Posted by smistthegreat (Post 1160118)

1507 won FLR with team 3951, also in Curie.

Thanks, added them in! If anyone else notices any errors or omissions please let me know so I can fix it.

Definitely looking like a strong field with solid potential this year.

Wetzel

Can't wait for the matches to begin!!

Here's a look at 461's new and improved robot:

Six wheel tank drive. 4 CIM's. Great pushing power and traction.

We can cross the bump.

We can tip the bridge down from behind, or push the bridge up from the front for someone else to get on.

Yes, we are a long base robot, but we have a center wheel drop and an extremely low and back CoG. Thus, we can hang about 17 inches off of the bridge, and still be soundly situated on 4 wheels. See our quadruple balance at 45's practice field here for more dynamics.

We are very willing to balance on the scoring bridge or co-op bridge, and can do both effectively and quickly.

Our shooting was about average at our two competitions, but at DC we discovered we had a Jaguar that was shorting. We have since fixed this and just yesterday we made 21 teleop-style three-point shots in a row without missing. We use a microsoft live webcam that we stripped of the IR filters and added a filter to only allow IR, and a beagle board off-board processing to not lag down the cRIO/processing (im not a programmer so my nomenclature could be wrong). This leaves us with an IR-based super accurate turreting shooter that won't be affected by outside lights or colors.

We have a lot of experienced mentors, ranging from previous members of our team to programmers studying currently at Purdue University to the Senior Mentor of Indiana FIRST as our lead mentor. We are very well known for always having a part someone needs, so if you break down in qualifications/eliminations, we're there to give you stuff. We even bring pneumatics even though we don't have any on our robot.

I (the strategist of the team) will also talk to all 5 teams before every match in qual's, so you can also guarantee a vast knowledge of our opponents and their game plans.

Good luck to everyone!
-Duke, FIRST Team 461

I started this google doc with some scouting data.

Feel free to insert any data that is missing or incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 1159935)

341 has a guady 64-5-1 record, but 987 went undefeated at two events for a 32-0 mark. Is there another team out there still undefeated?
Wetzel

624 has won all its games except for when a catastrophic d/c occurs. We lost once because of our own d/c and twice from team 1477 unfortunate d/c when facing 359 and 118 leaving us at (30-3-0) from bayou and lonestar.
As a side note I might expect a second team-up with 1477 since we've allied for two eliminations and made finals on both. Good luck to all teams in Curie division, we look forward to seeing you guys there!

While it is fun to speculate about who will win and which teams will align, it is just that, SPECULATION. Nobody truly knows what it going to happen, but it sure is fun to guess. As technically minded people we love to extrapolate data, but don’t forget that FIRST is also a sport. A sport filled with stories of underdog victories and heroic acts. There is not a single team in Curie, Archimedes, Newton, or Galileo that is just going to roll over.

As I read everyone’s posts, I am reminded of what my son said to me after the 2008 season. It was his rookie season and I asked him what impressed him most about FIRST. He said, that FIRST made him realize how, “TEAMWORK CAN OVERCOME AMAZING ODDS”. I know I will be reminding my team about this fact, as they take to the field on Thursday.
Best wishes to everyone that is traveling to St. Louis.

Team 58, The Riot Crew will be there with our robot Betty White the Pelican Terminator. We won the BAE Granite State regional along with our alliance partners team 131 and team 1831.

Our robot Betty has a 100% accurate autonomous mode capable of scoring from either side of the key or the center. Our mecanum drive train allows us to easily get in position for scoring and our retractable 5th wheel easily allows us to balance the bridge. It also prevents us from getting pushed around. Our mecanum drive train also allows us to easily be the middle bot in a triple balance. Our arm allows us to score 3 balls 99.9% of time. Our new and improved bridge arm allows us to cross the bridges with no problem.

For more information on Betty visit riotcrew.org

Below our some videos of Betty at the BAE Granite State regional finals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6nZv...ature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idbPHeIoorQ&feature=youtu.be

We look forward to seeing and competing with all of you down in St. Louis.
- Gilead Biggie
Team 58 Pit Crew Captain

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Originally Posted by MostlyCurious (Post 1160281)

Ok i was wondering is 624 long or wide and also 987 the highrollers how is there weight distributed? Thanks for everyones info

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Originally Posted by 3098 callahan (Post 1160332)

Ok i was wondering is 624 long or wide and also 987 the highrollers how is there weight distributed? Thanks for everyones info

Our weight is distributed so that about 15 inches can hang off the bridge :)

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Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 1159935)

Data mining is fun! (Or a problem if you ask my wife)
...
Repeats? We have 12 teams that paired up for regional wins.

And just for kicks...1986 & 624 were together last year to win CO. I suspect the bus company still hasn't gotten all of that green spray color out of their headrests.... :) Looking forward to seeing you & a bunch of other old friends next week.

re: Data mining -- I agree with you and my wife would agree with yours.

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Originally Posted by Chad987 (Post 1160342)

Our weight is distributed so that about 15 inches can hang off the bridge :)

I would quantify the amount of our robot that hangs off of the edge of the bridge as quite a bit. Would be interesting to see if 2 long bots that hang off the edge could balance together like say 987 and 694.

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1160353)

Certainly possible. We had relatively little trouble doing it with 1323 and 3309 on the practice field at CVR. Us and 1323 hung off the edges. We have a brake which makes it easier. Both of us were able to hang a substantial amount off the edge.

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1160431)

Seems like trying it with stingers on each of the bots on the edge will make the balance happen a lot more easily and robots flipping will be a lot less likely.

It's going to be difficult to test the triple balance combinations with the practice field setup at championship.

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1160437)

One with a stinger and both with brakes would make it much easier. we had both, but 1323 had to take their dingus off due to weight.

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1160353)

I am pretty sure it can be done 2337 3098 548 tripled in a practice match easily and 2337 and 548 are long

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1160431)

is there brakes on it so you dont fall off.

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Originally Posted by dman9385 (Post 1160085)

It's ok Clint, I don't get him either now. Just spoke to Rob he said he's been moved to Archimedes. I guess we both miss out on him!:(

Bahahahaha! We get him on Archimedes! And by we, I mean the volunteers cause 33 is on Galileo. You guys get a good Seconday FTA too though! And should harass him as if he was Rob. :)

Team 178's here for the fun as well :)

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Originally Posted by 3098 callahan (Post 1160332)

Ok i was wondering is 624 long or wide and also 987 the highrollers how is there weight distributed? Thanks for everyones info

624 is long. We have a fairly balanced weight distribution with most of our weight on the center of the bot (except that our battery is off-center).

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Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1160343)

Loved playing with y'all last year! Lots of memories of the green hair spray cloud we created over Denver with you guys... We're also looking forward to seeing you again on Curie.

Best of luck to all teams! Looks like it really will be quite the field... So many possible strong alliances...

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Originally Posted by 3098 callahan (Post 1160455)

I am pretty sure it can be done 2337 3098 548 tripled in a practice match easily and 2337 and 548 are long

Here we go:

This balance happened about 4 seconds after 2337 made contact with 3098.

Crossposting from Curie picture thread.

Team 207 has flown in way under the radar for Rebound Rumble, and it's time to change that up a bit. As usual, all design and manufacturing is done in house.

DRIVETRAIN

Eight driven wheels
Wedgetop tread
Center drop
Everything forward of four central wheels can be hung off during balancing
Four CIMs
Capable of mounting the barrier and bridge easily, with a reliable bridge mechanism
Able to turn within it's own footprint

SCORING/FEEDING

Articulating hooded shooter
>180 degrees of rotation
Capable of scoring on all three baskets
Cross field feeding
Dual stage pickup; shuts off automatically once filled

HYBRID MODE

Capable of shooting baskets
Reversible ball pickup for partner feeding

BRIDGE BALANCING

Very low center of gravity
Takes up less bridge space than most long robots

CHAMPIONSHIP WEIGHT: 118 lbs

Go Curie!

Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (with 9 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator).

I used each team's highest adjusted opr at any event to choose that team's "best event". Then, for that event, I used their unadjusted OPR for their contribution to a match. I also used the hybrid OPR, bridge OPR, teleop OPR to help calculate the standings. For the co-op bridge, I summed the co-op OPR for all 6 robots in the match and compared that to a threshold. When back-testing against regionals, if the threshold was chosen to be close to the number of actual co-ops at the regional, it had a relatively high correlation to the actual results on the co-op bridge. Almost all regionals had a correlation co-efficient of between 0.6 and 0.85. However, at the Michigan State Championship, the correlation coefficient was only 0.3. I believe this is because almost all of the robots there were able to balance so the balances that didn't happen weren't be cause of the robots, but because of luck. I used this method for calculating the co-ops, trying to get a co-op percent of around 60% (higher then most regionals, but lower then MSC). Overall, this isn't a very good way to do it, as it punishes teams at early regionals and regionals where teams did not co-op that much. However, it's included to help simulate the randomness of the rankings this year. All OPR data is from Ed Law's spreadsheet.

I calculated the results for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

Since the standings are much more complicated this year, and the co-op bridge is so important, and there isn't a very good way to simulate it, I looked at both the ranks, the number of qualification points, and the number of wins.

Everyone should attend Karthik's presentation at the championships where he covers "Why 'OPR' is a flawed indicator in Rebound Rumble".

The following were the values that were used in the simulation

Code:

Team         OPR        Teleop        Hybrid        Bridge        Coop

987        35.28        21.76        8.72        5.25        0.88

341        34.58        14.39        17.18        3.01        0.81

624        32.60        17.26        8.45        6.75        0.50

2474        32.32        15.87        10.43        6.00        0.48

254        32.12        17.21        7.62        7.70        0.50

3098        27.54        7.99        11.48        8.07        0.95

1507        27.04        12.97        9.06        5.27        0.71

1986        26.28        10.07        9.28        6.88        0.83

27        24.98        10.26        5.49        9.22        0.69

971        23.92        12.63        7.97        3.75        1.18

233        23.78        16.70        5.17        2.22        0.19

3528        22.60        11.48        10.56        0.48        0.22

1985        22.58        10.71        7.47        4.74        0.03

3205        22.39        5.90        10.13        6.37        0.30

78        21.43        10.45        6.23        5.70        -0.25

1678        21.41        12.11        6.05        3.08        0.93

836        20.85        9.72        5.98        5.74        0.66

1477        20.70        13.58        5.84        1.66        1.16

525        20.08        9.74        4.08        6.79        0.51

51        20.07        9.17        6.81        4.09        0.95

3288        19.03        5.11        5.08        8.46        0.18

1741        18.99        7.63        8.73        2.82        0.28

2960        18.07        7.06        4.03        6.97        0.32

830        17.33        4.14        10.90        2.29        0.00

58        17.09        7.54        9.80        -0.50        0.30

192        16.97        3.52        5.54        7.28        -0.26

3419        16.57        3.77        1.38        11.31        -0.24

1828        16.34        7.88        6.91        2.01        0.17

694        16.19        6.41        3.09        6.88        0.59

1319        16.11        5.65        5.13        5.34        0.21

3929        15.65        2.60        3.83        9.22        0.36

2180        15.59        4.71        9.43        1.45        0.81

1511        15.34        8.29        4.16        2.60        0.62

85        15.25        5.39        5.85        4.06        0.13

3940        14.40        3.24        7.02        4.46        0.03

537        14.09        5.17        6.79        2.25        -0.44

702        13.40        8.26        7.07        -1.74        0.65

3970        13.10        9.28        3.16        0.52        1.07

2626        12.20        8.32        -0.09        3.91        0.31

2522        12.08        5.10        3.12        4.52        0.07

1690        12.03        8.15        3.03        0.73        0.29

1391        12.03        3.25        6.86        1.92        0.20

1764        11.74        4.63        5.20        2.40        0.22

1885        11.62        3.96        6.68        1.34        0.11

4069        11.59        -0.15        7.22        4.40        0.84

1683        11.34        1.03        3.08        7.13        -0.23

1501        11.11        3.36        3.67        4.08        0.27

461        10.56        0.89        8.66        1.34        0.37

2591        10.50        7.22        4.25        -0.98        0.49

1912        10.20        2.84        3.21        3.86        0.51

2881        9.79        3.50        4.07        2.54        0.43

279        9.73        -0.23        3.26        6.69        -0.05

1266        9.61        0.52        5.69        3.55        0.41

3880        9.59        1.36        6.59        1.75        0.08

3965        9.55        2.48        1.18        6.25        0.25

244        9.26        0.90        3.41        4.96        0.68

1143        9.18        8.51        0.33        0.31        0.11

503        8.97        3.53        6.07        -0.64        0.68

4161        8.94        2.72        1.15        5.57        0.23

288        8.49        0.52        0.78        7.21        0.37

433        8.39        -0.96        4.44        4.60        -0.09

604        8.26        -0.05        3.48        4.13        0.42

1817        8.13        3.08        0.34        5.04        -0.28

207        7.65        3.92        -0.71        2.81        0.25

3951        7.46        2.56        1.96        2.78        0.41

3847        7.10        1.70        5.36        0.14        0.15

3936        7.04        0.45        6.04        0.51        0.17

4226        6.62        2.25        4.44        -0.44        0.04

2102        6.29        3.05        1.27        2.34        0.14

2164        6.23        2.93        2.55        0.76        0.52

4265        6.01        2.80        1.22        2.13        0.29

706        5.89        -0.98        2.86        4.01        0.71

120        5.87        1.66        2.48        1.94        -0.14

2914        5.71        3.76        -4.05        6.58        0.47

116        5.53        1.22        -1.12        5.62        1.02

564        5.40        -0.19        4.00        1.46        -0.26

932        5.12        3.45        1.09        0.57        -0.13

3711        4.98        2.79        2.32        -0.14        0.42

1649        4.60        5.04        0.10        -0.20        -0.26

2500        4.13        -0.51        0.51        4.59        -0.38

3950        3.96        1.34        -2.57        5.09        0.37

4253        3.85        1.28        -1.46        4.14        0.05

4130        3.76        -0.59        0.67        3.68        0.47

293        3.53        5.80        -1.42        -0.85        0.22

2130        3.42        0.60        4.82        -2.00        0.74

415        3.38        1.35        0.50        1.65        0.35

3132        2.86        -0.51        0.14        3.38        0.10

571        2.81        2.19        -0.96        1.68        0.31

3807        2.56        0.59        0.84        1.78        0.26

4203        2.53        0.73        -0.28        1.90        -0.11

3115        2.38        -1.65        1.54        2.22        -0.10

597        2.08        5.49        -0.53        -3.24        0.62

4269        1.78        1.68        1.26        -1.50        0.84

2844        1.41        -1.50        1.01        2.13        0.58

1778        1.28        0.36        2.61        -1.18        0.31

2757        -1.26        0.82        -1.34        -0.60        -0.38

178        -1.55        -2.24        2.87        -2.07        0.41

3860        -1.79        0.79        -0.97        -1.08        0.17

1033        -1.92        0.03        -1.10        -0.57        -0.08

3941        -2.49        -1.88        -1.21        -0.27        -0.16

Seeds:

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        avg        med        mode        min        max        stdev        top8        #1

987        5.39        4        1        1        24        4.71        162        37

341        4.81        3        1        1        18        4.03        165        47

624        13.70        12        10        1        51        9.05        65        6

2474        12.75        10.5        7        1        59        9.42        84        2

254        13.49        11        11        1        55        10.11        75        6

3098        7.67        6        1        1        42        6.90        129        29

1507        10.58        9        3        1        54        8.53        97        10

1986        10.20        8        3        1        53        8.63        105        11

27        15.65        12        8        1        69        12.41        69        1

971        8.12        7        2        1        42        6.72        127        17

233        32.12        28.5        22        2        84        17.47        5        0

3528        28.93        25        12        2        91        16.72        13        0

1985        39.30        36        27        6        87        18.17        1        0

3205        27.59        26        10        2        76        15.69        15        0

78        54.28        55        52        12        98        19.83        0        0

1678        13.18        10        5        1        65        10.31        82        13

836        20.61        16        10        1        76        14.25        38        1

1477        10.86        9        2        1        48        9.22        99        11

525        28.07        25.5        24        3        80        15.10        13        0

51        13.16        11        7        1        58        9.83        77        6

3288        38.74        35        25        7        93        19.42        1        0

1741        31.15        27        16        4        96        18.54        12        0

2960        38.19        34        27        6        93        19.92        6        0

830        50.49        50        38        2        99        19.34        1        0

58        35.55        33.5        21        3        94        19.39        10        0

192        61.80        61        41        15        100        19.84        0        0

3419        63.68        65        76        15        99        20.89        0        0

1828        49.16        49.5        73        9        98        21.06        0        0

694        30.65        27        13        1        89        17.48        12        1

1319        45.47        43        26        3        95        20.70        5        0

3929        39.48        36        55        1        88        19.08        2        1

2180        21.63        18        12        1        74        14.68        38        1

1511        31.07        29.5        16        2        94        17.40        9        0

85        49.28        50.5        29        4        91        21.05        4        0

3940        55.73        54        77        12        99        19.30        0        0

537        74.14        78        83        25        100        18.51        0        0

702        32.04        29        22        2        82        17.44        12        0

3970        23.72        20        11        2        82        14.92        20        0

2626        52.41        50        69        14        100        21.00        0        0

2522        59.86        58.5        69        14        99        20.84        0        0

1690        49.82        50        50        11        97        20.79        0        0

1391        48.08        48        55        6        96        19.90        1        0

1764        51.65        52        52        10        96        20.72        0        0

1885        56.68        58.5        65        10        98        21.52        0        0

4069        25.84        23        29        2        81        15.80        18        0

1683        70.98        74.5        78        23        100        18.73        0        0

1501        53.29        50.5        40        14        95        21.11        0        0

461        43.97        42        42        6        93        18.93        3        0

2591        42.41        41        46        8        92        18.85        1        0

1912        45.24        43        30        4        96        20.27        2        0

2881        47.59        46.5        48        6        93        19.95        2        0

279        68.66        71        76        15        99        20.57        0        0

1266        45.79        46        49        5        94        20.59        2        0

3880        62.39        65        62        8        100        21.30        1        0

3965        55.17        52        34        5        100        22.97        1        0

244        38.62        36.5        31        5        88        18.65        3        0

1143        68.18        70        83        15        100        19.31        0        0

503        40.68        38        19        4        92        19.15        2        0

4161        60.46        61        48        11        100        19.59        0        0

288        54.66        55        50        12        99        20.64        0        0

433        71.98        76        66        14        100        19.23        0        0

604        52.00        51        53        9        98        19.13        0        0

1817        83.51        87        96        37        100        14.30        0        0

207        61.75        63        56        12        100        20.30        0        0

3951        56.85        57        67        15        99        19.98        0        0

3847        65.38        69        77        16        98        19.86        0        0

3936        61.80        64        70        5        98        20.74        1        0

4226        70.18        73        67        19        100        18.98        0        0

2102        67.21        69.5        85        14        99        20.65        0        0

2164        53.20        54        50        10        100        20.93        0        0

4265        62.85        65        76        12        100        20.77        0        0

706        42.39        41.5        33        6        91        18.58        2        0

120        79.32        84        85        25        100        16.19        0        0

2914        59.75        61        61        12        96        20.91        0        0

116        37.28        33        22        5        86        18.65        3        0

564        84.05        88        97        22        100        14.67        0        0

932        80.20        85        69        34        100        15.93        0        0

3711        61.42        61.5        77        12        98        20.00        0        0

1649        85.42        89        100        39        100        13.75        0        0

2500        90.77        94        98        51        100        9.45        0        0

3950        64.86        67        90        14        100        20.84        0        0

4253        77.79        82        89        33        100        15.52        0        0

4130        58.71        58        46        14        100        22.41        0        0

293        70.96        74        94        19        100        19.30        0        0

2130        43.74        43        44        5        88        18.62        4        0

415        69.04        73        87        13        98        19.63        0        0

3132        77.49        82        78        19        100        18.57        0        0

571        70.36        74        82        9        100        19.76        0        0

3807        68.76        72        91        16        99        19.82        0        0

4203        84.08        88        99        19        100        14.31        0        0

3115        84.78        90        94        34        100        14.48        0        0

597        56.00        57.5        62        8        98        20.47        1        0

4269        52.08        52.5        66        13        92        18.19        0        0

2844        61.11        62        47        11        99        18.62        0        0

1778        73.06        76        90        20        100        17.44        0        0

2757        93.34        97        100        32        100        9.80        0        0

178        69.49        74        84        14        100        18.94        0        0

3860        82.21        86        93        24        100        15.09        0        0

1033        89.09        93        99        35        100        11.42        0        0

3941        91.08        94        99        30        100        10.82        0        0

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        avg        med        mode        min        max        stdev        Perfect

987        30.18        30        32        22        36        2.79        4

341        29.88        30        30        24        36        2.68        2

624        26.54        26        28        18        36        3.11        1

2474        26.67        26.5        28        16        34        3.22        0

254        26.76        26        26        18        36        3.45        1

3098        28.82        29        28        18        36        3.22        4

1507        27.84        28        28        18        35        3.36        0

1986        27.98        28        28        18        34        3.32        0

27        26.60        27        28        16        34        3.48        0

971        29.05        29        30        20        36        3.11        5

233        22.24        22        20        12        30        3.68        0

3528        22.25        22        20        12        34        3.62        0

1985        20.37        20        20        12        28        3.39        0

3205        22.61        22        22        14        32        3.46        0

78        17.77        18        16        9        26        3.53        0

1678        27.29        28        28        16        36        3.63        3

836        24.99        26        28        14        34        3.82        0

1477        28.35        28        30        20        36        3.48        2

525        23.30        23        22        14        32        3.47        0

51        27.10        28        28        17        34        3.23        0

3288        20.71        21        22        10        28        3.59        0

1741        21.93        22        20        8        30        3.85        0

2960        21.14        22        22        10        30        3.88        0

830        18.00        18        18        7        30        3.42        0

58        20.97        20        20        11        30        3.88        0

192        16.32        16        16        6        26        3.73        0

3419        16.62        16        18        6        26        3.89        0

1828        18.60        18        20        7        27        3.79        0

694        22.90        23        24        12        33        3.81        0

1319        19.55        20        20        8        32        3.92        0

3929        20.91        20        22        14        32        3.64        0

2180        24.22        24        26        14        32        3.69        0

1511        22.64        22        22        10        32        3.81        0

85        18.70        18        18        9        30        3.89        0

3940        17.35        18        18        6        27        3.47        0

537        13.67        14        14        2        22        3.88        0

702        21.98        22        22        12        32        3.67        0

3970        24.49        24        24        14        34        3.54        0

2626        18.89        20        20        8        26        3.70        0

2522        17.07        18        18        6        26        3.87        0

1690        18.99        19        18        8        28        3.83        0

1391        18.72        18        18        8        29        3.68        0

1764        18.42        18        18        8        27        3.71        0

1885        17.22        17        16        7        28        3.99        0

4069        23.31        24        24        14        33        3.63        0

1683        14.83        14        14        4        23        3.74        0

1501        18.23        18        20        10        28        3.78        0

461        19.30        19.5        18        11        28        3.41        0

2591        20.24        20        22        10        28        3.45        0

1912        19.86        20        22        10        30        3.72        0

2881        19.24        20        20        10        30        3.70        0

279        15.27        16        16        4        26        4.22        0

1266        19.23        19        18        8        30        3.93        0

3880        16.13        16        16        6        28        3.86        0

3965        18.25        18.5        22        6        29        4.21        0

244        21.15        21        20        12        30        3.55        0

1143        15.99        16        18        6        26        3.67        0

503        20.28        20        20        11        30        3.56        0

4161        17.31        18        20        6        28        3.61        0

288        18.45        18        18        7        28        3.76        0

433        14.49        14        14        4        25        3.96        0

604        18.62        18        18        8        28        3.42        0

1817        12.41        12        12        0        20        3.61        0

207        17.32        18        16        7        28        3.80        0

3951        17.84        18        18        6        26        3.60        0

3847        15.80        16        14        8        24        3.73        0

3936        16.31        16        16        6        28        3.90        0

4226        14.94        14.5        14        4        26        3.81        0

2102        15.94        16        16        6        26        4.07        0

2164        18.38        18        18        8        28        3.69        0

4265        16.80        16        16        3        28        3.92        0

706        20.43        20        18        12        30        3.49        0

120        13.20        13.5        12        4        24        3.75        0

2914        17.86        18        18        10        28        3.62        0

116        21.83        22        22        13        30        3.47        0

564        11.64        12        12        2        22        3.75        0

932        13.08        12        12        4        22        3.69        0

3711        17.08        17        18        8        28        3.69        0

1649        11.83        12        12        4        22        3.79        0

2500        10.20        10        10        4        19        3.04        0

3950        16.91        17        18        8        26        3.89        0

4253        14.12        14        14        4        23        3.47        0

4130        17.61        18        18        6        28        4.19        0

293        15.54        16        16        6        26        3.79        0

2130        19.86        20        20        12        30        3.47        0

415        15.78        16        14        8        25        3.71        0

3132        13.90        14        12        6        25        3.92        0

571        15.67        16        16        4        28        3.93        0

3807        15.72        16        14        8        27        3.81        0

4203        12.30        12        12        2        26        3.72        0

3115        11.65        12        10        2        22        3.73        0

597        18.30        18        18        8        28        3.72        0

4269        18.93        18        18        12        27        3.11        0

2844        17.21        17        16        8        26        3.39        0

1778        14.59        14        12        6        26        3.64        0

2757        9.04        9        8        0        22        3.57        0

178        15.24        14        14        6        26        3.67        0

3860        12.94        13        14        4        24        3.64        0

1033        11.08        10        10        4        22        3.37        0

3941        10.28        10        10        0        22        3.51        0

Wins:

Code:

        avg        med        mode        min        max        stdev        Perfect

987        7.94        8        8        5        9        0.92        61

341        7.89        8        8        5        9        0.91        55

624        7.64        8        8        5        9        1.07        48

2474        7.68        8        8        5        9        1.03        48

254        7.61        8        7        4        9        1.08        48

3098        7.08        7        7        4        9        1.25        24

1507        7.13        7        7        4        9        1.21        29

1986        6.88        7        8        2        9        1.31        16

27        6.78        7        6        2        9        1.37        17

971        6.51        6.5        6        3        9        1.30        11

233        6.56        7        7        3        9        1.27        8

3528        6.41        6        6        3        9        1.30        5

1985        6.37        6        6        2        9        1.38        10

3205        6.32        6        7        3        9        1.29        5

78        6.04        6        7        2        9        1.35        4

1678        6.24        6        6        2        9        1.46        12

836        6.12        6        6        1        9        1.45        8

1477        6.09        6        6        2        9        1.49        7

525        5.73        6        6        2        9        1.38        2

51        6.25        6        6        3        9        1.43        8

3288        5.84        6        7        2        9        1.42        2

1741        5.78        6        5        2        9        1.44        4

2960        5.58        6        6        2        9        1.42        2

830        5.37        5.5        6        1        9        1.45        2

58        5.26        5        6        1        9        1.46        1

192        5.33        5        6        1        9        1.57        1

3419        5.38        5        5        1        9        1.44        1

1828        4.84        5        5        1        9        1.56        1

694        5.28        5        5        1        9        1.47        3

1319        5.10        5        5        1        9        1.49        4

3929        5.23        5        5        2        9        1.35        1

2180        5.16        5        6        0        9        1.54        3

1511        4.97        5        5        2        9        1.47        1

85        5.09        5        5        2        9        1.46        1

3940        4.72        5        5        0        8        1.37        0

537        4.72        5        5        1        8        1.53        0

702        4.53        5        5        1        8        1.47        0

3970        4.54        5        5        1        8        1.50        0

2626        4.52        5        5        1        8        1.48        0

2522        4.33        4        4        1        9        1.58        1

1690        4.32        4        4        1        8        1.47        0

1391        4.62        5        5        1        8        1.45        0

1764        4.47        4        4        1        8        1.48        0

1885        4.33        4        5        1        8        1.51        0

4069        4.39        4        5        0        8        1.59        0

1683        4.44        4        4        0        8        1.44        0

1501        4.31        4        5        0        7        1.49        0

461        4.35        4        4        1        8        1.42        0

2591        4.19        4        4        0        8        1.40        0

1912        4.09        4        4        1        8        1.41        0

2881        4.07        4        3        1        8        1.37        0

279        4.08        4        5        1        9        1.67        1

1266        4.13        4        4        0        8        1.57        0

3880        3.92        4        4        0        8        1.43        0

3965        4.19        4        5        1        9        1.59        1

244        4.09        4        4        0        8        1.42        0

1143        3.81        4        4        0        8        1.40        0

503        3.81        4        4        0        7        1.45        0

4161        3.97        4        4        0        8        1.45        0

288        3.81        4        3        0        8        1.49        0

433        3.74        4        4        0        7        1.47        0

604        3.91        4        4        1        7        1.35        0

1817        3.68        4        3        0        7        1.41        0

207        3.87        4        4        1        9        1.48        1

3951        3.48        3.5        4        0        7        1.46        0

3847        3.49        3        3        0        7        1.33        0

3936        3.72        4        4        0        7        1.60        0

4226        3.44        3        4        0        8        1.53        0

2102        3.58        4        4        0        8        1.50        0

2164        3.25        3        3        0        7        1.38        0

4265        3.48        3        3        0        7        1.47        0

706        3.55        4        4        0        7        1.41        0

120        3.45        3        4        0        8        1.37        0

2914        3.28        3        2        0        7        1.45        0

116        3.29        3        3        0        8        1.37        0

564        3.08        3        3        0        7        1.38        0

932        3.26        3        3        0        7        1.38        0

3711        3.13        3        3        0        7        1.41        0

1649        3.13        3        2        0        6        1.37        0

2500        2.87        3        3        0        7        1.27        0

3950        3.00        3        3        0        7        1.42        0

4253        2.98        3        3        0        7        1.43        0

4130        3.04        3        2        0        7        1.45        0

293        2.98        3        2        0        7        1.35        0

2130        3.06        3        3        0        8        1.40        0

415        2.63        3        2        0        8        1.32        0

3132        2.79        3        3        0        7        1.52        0

571        2.81        3        3        0        7        1.45        0

3807        2.96        3        2        0        8        1.41        0

4203        2.85        3        3        0        8        1.45        0

3115        2.55        3        3        0        6        1.41        0

597        2.77        3        3        0        7        1.43        0

4269        2.59        3        3        0        6        1.24        0

2844        2.49        2        2        0        6        1.29        0

1778        2.46        2        2        0        8        1.35        0

2757        2.24        2        2        0        7        1.38        0

178        2.21        2        2        0        7        1.33        0

3860        2.01        2        1        0        5        1.29        0

1033        2.09        2        2        0        5        1.26        0

3941        2.10        2        2        0        7        1.31        0

Thanks Joe! I've been waiting for these. They're always really interesting.

Way to put a big target on our back, Joe. Remember everybody, these are just numbers and reality is much less generous.

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1160846)

Way to put a big target on our back, Joe. Remember everybody, these are just numbers and reality is much less generous.

I think Joe just painted over the big target you put on your back after going 32-0.

2914 is happy to come in under the radar, we are pretty confident in the scouting abilities of the top teams and will make our case on the field. I'm getting excited, how about you?

Wetzel

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Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 1160853)

Yes, i am excited for it to start. I can't wait to see some nice robot action and see whos predictions are right and try to overcome the odds!!!

I posted a similar post on the 2012 Divisions thread, but I was wondering if any teams are in a similar situation as my team.

At the Wisconsin Regional, team 706's robot only made one tele-op point. After, we made adjustments to both the mechanical and code side of it. Now it is shooting with a more direct shoot instead of an arch, and the shooter builds rpm's and recovers 2.5 seconds faster. With this new change, we perdict our OPR will at least double.

If other teams have done the same, the competition will be much more competitive.

Has this situation affected any other team here on Curie?

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Originally Posted by snowmobiler9 (Post 1161484)

We went the other way. We got more accurate and better shots as we increased our arch. We had a really flat shot to start with, then went crazy and shot from the key and got 30 feet of air before landing near the basket, and then dialed it in to pretty accurate.

Wetzel

A lot of my students wanted to end up in a division with 987 because their robot looks similar to ours.

Also ending up in the same division with a certain green spiky haired team from Katy, Texas wasn't bad either in my opinion. :cool:

Honestly, I can't wait to see how things turn out with teams like 233, 254, 341, 624, 971, 987, 1986, 2474 in our division! It's going to be an exciting weekend. Good luck to all teams in Curie!

I would like to take a chance to introduce you to the 2 RoboDawgs teams traveling to St. Louis this year!

However, there may be a little bit of confustion if you are doing pre-competition scouting. The RoboDawgs are broken down into 3 teams, Team 216, 244, and 288, and recently were the first team in FRC History to send 3 teams from one high school to the Semi-Finals at a single event! Unfortunately, there was a bit of a mix-up in registering teams for nationals, and team 216 (Which had been decided was attending nationals) was accidentally registered as 288 (Which was not attending nationals). Due to this confusion, and strict FRC Tournament Policy, Team 216 will be attending the tournament under the 288 name.

IF YOU ARE CONDUCTING PRE-TOURNAMENT SCOUTING, PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:
The information you are looking at for Team 288 is incorrect!
For correct match scores, OPR, DPR, and other information, please make sure you are looking at Team 216!
Thank You!

Now, for a little information on our teams!

Team 244:

Consistant 6-12 points in autonomous mode!
Wide orientation, and triple balanced 5 times this year!
District Winner at Troy District Competition!
District Finalist at Waterloo Regional!

Team 288:

Consistent 10 points in autonomous mode! (Made 19/24 at most recent competition!)
Scores an average of 4-6 baskets per match!
Alliance Captain at 2 tournament events!
Double/Coopertition balanced over 30 times this year!

Thanks for reading, and on behalf of all members of the RoboDawgs, Good Luck! :)

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Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1161886)

Also ending up in the same division with a certain green spiky haired team from Katy, Texas wasn't bad either in my opinion.

Nice to know we're appreciated. Spirit award belongs to Curie this year. Get Pumped!
CUUUUUUURIEEEEE!!!!!!

One more day of school until the Cyberhawks head down!!! Attention spans will be non-existent all day!

CURIE!!!!

So yeah, our last match with 987 was the first chance I got to watch their robot compete all year.

All I have to say is Mein Got. :eek:

Ha ha. Thanks! It was fun working with you guys. You have a great robot, and very good strategists.

Wow daisy lost a match.

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1163093)

Wow daisy lost a match.

Looks like there's only two teams left in Curie that are still undefeated. Unless I skimmed through the division standings too quickly.

Yes good luck to our friends on 1507 who are undefeated!!! Nice.

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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1163097)

Yes good luck to our friends on 1507 who are undefeated!!! Nice.

Thanks a lot. It sucks being stuck here at work, quietly cheering on my team via the NASA Broadcast.

And as I write this, looks like 987 racked up yet another win. I still can't get over how ridiculously accurate their shooter is.

1507 is Seeded first nice.

Not too happy about the "cooperatition" from the opposing alliance in the final match, but it's the finals and strategy is more important than ever during the Championships I suppose. :rolleyes:

The last few matches are going to be very exciting. The race for the #1 spot is so close.

Here is a quick highlight reel of our robot we out together last night. http://vimeo.com/41184828

Good luck to all the Curie Teams today.

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1163209)

Aww, its unavailable on Android at the moment :/

987 LOST!!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by O'Sancheski (Post 1163224)

987 LOST!!?!?!?!?!?!?

Tough loss. Looked like an inch or two positioning in autonomous made the difference.

Really? A Roomba under the bridge? haha!

And with Daisy losing their timeout coupon and getting grip tape on their shooter shaft, the Ace of Spades proves that you can overwhelm a triple balance without even balancing.

#curie2012

I think there's a possibility that this alliance can break the curse!

I swear I think my heart popped out of my chest a couple of times during my team's last 2 matches before we were eliminated.

We we were never designed to do triple-balance yet when they got so close...auugh. Oh well. We had a fantastic year and I'm happy to see 987 move on to Einstein. An amazing showing. I can't believe they managed to out-score a very good alliance headed by Miss Daisy as well as that alliance triple-balancing. insane.

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Originally Posted by Solidstate89 (Post 1163305)

Thanks for being an awesome alliance captain and we almost got a triple but it was fun while it lasted. Also 51 wings of fire was awesome pick and great teamate!!!!!

Thanks to 254 and 78 for being fantastic partners! It was great to finally get to work with you, and we definitely want to do it again. I am very sorry that we let you down; our shooter started having traction issues as soon as elims started (due to wear and/or the bizarre new balls that they introduced for elims that did not feel like ANY ball we had fired all season), and by the finals we were frantically trying to re-apply grip tape so our accuracy would get back to normal. But we were rushed, and couldn't find the timeout ticket in time, so the repair was not effective. The world saw what we could do when we were all clicking (128 points, foul-free), which makes it sting that much worse...:(

Congrats to 233, 987, and 207 for winning the division and being World Finalists! 987, you guys were the definition of consistency. 233, you really turned up your game in the elims! 207, you played incredible defense. It is a damned shame what happened on Einstein, and I know that I'll forever be wondering what could have been.

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1164367)

our shooter started having traction issues as soon as elims started (due to wear and/or the bizarre new balls that they introduced for elims that did not feel like ANY ball we had fired all season)

We had the same exact problem. The last day of competition they put new balls in the field. Which two of our matches we got in our rollers jamming almost blowing out our motor. We went to ask them about it, and they said it was part of the game.

Congrats to teams 987, 207, and 233 for being division champs and making it all the way into the finals match on Einstein.

Thanks to team 3528 and 1477 for being awesome alliance partners. Quarter-finals were crazy intense with our 60-62 loss and 72-71 and 46-45 wins, and semi's were even more ridiculous with 207's kamakazi style defense over the co-op bridge!

Does anyone know where I can find match videos for both quals and (especially) elims? Thanks!

Does anybody have video of 207 jumping off of the elevated end of a bridge in what I believe was SF 2 or Finals on Curie? They had pulled down the bridge on their side and started to drive up the bridge while an opposing robot managed to wedge itself under the other side of the bridge. This held the bridge up while 207 drove straight of the end of the elevated bridge at a pretty high speed. They then dropped about two feet to the floor and went on driving without an issue.

Just one of the more awesome moments I had witnessed this FIRST season. Hopefully someone has video from the match.

On another note, congrats to all the Curie teams and those that represented us on Einstein. It was an interesting division to play in. With an emphasis on triple balancing and an overwhelming amount of the best teams in our division being long, it was neat to see how alliance selections and eliminations played out.

To 987, sorry about roughing up your pickup in QF-3. We were glad to see that it was repaired and functional in your next match.

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Originally Posted by hill (Post 1164416)

The match was SF2-2, and the defending robot wedged under the bridge was 1741. Our driver couldn't believe 207 did that, as he didn't think anyone would be willing to risk a 2ft hard drop! Props to 207's driver for what I think was the most agressive play all tournament long.

Curie elims had many many awesome moments in them, from the stands we were shocked too that 207 just jumped right off. I really hope someone has that video and will post it.

I just want to shout out to Daisy(341), Poofs(254) and Air Strike(78), our matches with your alliance were honestly the toughest matches all competition. I didn't realize it at the time but I'm sorry that 78 went out of comms in the finals (that was still a not known to me issue at the time). I saw 78 guarding the rail and thought that was what he was doing to limit the marauding but knowing he was out of comms changes it all. How long was he down for?

Thanks for the great games I know you guys had awesome robots and no one even ourselves would have been suriprised had you guys beaten us in the finals. Your robots were just that good and consistent.

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Originally Posted by 3098 callahan (Post 1164381)

Exactly. Though this wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't specifically asked at the driver's meeting only receive a vague and misleading non-commitment that it would "be like the regionals", with balls only being replaced as needed throughout the competion. (The regionals did have replacements scheduled for start of eliminations, in addition to replace-as-needed.) Guess we should have asked if they were going to give us literally different game pieces mid-event as well.

Hi guys. I know I'm not on Curie. :o Even as a backup on Newton I was still worried about it, though.

Congrats to 987, 207 and 233. You guys were awesome and I believe definitely could have gone all the way. Also congratulations to 341 with 254 and 78. We love you guys and you also could have taken it all. Great job to everyone and I wish we'd all been lucky enough to witness the matches that could have and should have happened. (Even so, I humbly believe the Curie elims topped most of the later events.)

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Originally Posted by frdrake (Post 1164427)

I didn't realize it at the time but I'm sorry that 78 went out of comms in the finals (that was still a not known to me issue at the time). I saw 78 guarding the rail and thought that was what he was doing to limit the marauding but knowing he was out of comms changes it all. How long was he down for?

78 lost comms when they hit the barrier after hybrid mode in F1. They were out from about 10 seconds into teleop through the end of the match. In F2, everybody was moving with communications problems.

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Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1164421)

I just posted the video that I got from Team 207 on Youtube here:

http://youtu.be/Lh7Vz2-OTPc

The jump is around the 0:47 sec mark

I hope they don't mind that I posted their video for them, but it was one of the most incredible and awesome things I've seen all season. A very gutsy move with no hesitation. They also were using rapid prototyped wheels this year, which made it all the more incredible that they didn't break something. (I guess Team 3528 did take some of the impact).

It was great playing with Team 207 in Curie and on Einstein this year. Those guys have a great team and we look forward to playing with them again out on the West Coast.

Thanks for posting that, definately going to save it to show it off as what a tough built robot can do.

I would like to thank our alliance partners the Pink Team 233 and Team 207. That was the first time we've had a chance to work with (and not against) 233 since we first met in Vegas back in 2007, and it was an incredible experience. Pink definitely plays on a higher level in the elimination rounds (as they always do) and certainly peaked at the perfect time with their best performance of the year, IMHO. We were confident in our strategy coming into the championship that we could outscore a triple balance with the right partners, but lost sight of it over the weekend until Pink's drive coach, Brian, talked some sense into us at the last minute. "Think Pink" takes on a whole new meaning for me now. I wish we could have gotten that Championship banner for you.

Team 207 was an amazing defensive bot and a steal of a second pick. Seeing the video of them jump off the co-op bridge (I was focusing on the other end of the field and missed it) will forever live in my mind as one of the most incredible things I've seen in FIRST. They are a great group of people to work with, and we look forward to working together again in the future out on the West Coast.

I would also like to congratulate Teams 341, 254, and 78. The #1 alliance was an incredible pairing that at first I didn't know if we could beat. Congratulations on setting the 2012 game high score of 128. Miss Daisy's machine this year was a sight to see and we had a great time fighting back and forth with them and 233 for the top seed. I wish that our rookie mistake with the battery connector in our match together hadn't happened and we could have seen at least one match of what our pairing had the potential of putting up on the scoreboard. The Poofs are a perennial powerhouse team that I have admired and respected since I started in FIRST in 2006. They always have incredible robot designs, are fiercely competitive and one of the hardest working teams in FIRST. They are one of the teams you would always rather play with than against if you have the choice. And Team 78, it is too bad that you lost radio power in Curie Finals Match 1. Congrats on a great season as well.

Congrats also to the other teams in Curie that had great performances this weekend off the top of my head like 1986, 624, 3098, 1507, 1477, 2474, 1678, and 1511. The Curie field was very deep this year and it was a lot of fun to get to know and compete against new teams we've never faced.

Lastly, I want to give a special thanks to Team 525 for helping us fix our ball intake mechanism after they inadvertantly broke it at the end of QF3-2. Truely a remarkable showing of gracious professionalism and class from a great team.

See you all next year.

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1164471)

78's barrel connector for power to their radio was knocked out as a result of the impact.

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Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1164402)

Team 3528, Up Next, would like to thank teams 1477 and 1741 for their awesome performance in the eliminations. The game playing strategy was ingenious. Texas Torque's shooting was dead accurate and Red Alert played amazing defense. Each of those QF matches could have went either way. I would love to re-watch all three matches again.

I don't remember after which match we bent our bridge-tipper, but if we had been able to employ the same strategy in the SF's, then maybe we could've given 233-987-207 a better run.

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Originally Posted by SharonO (Post 1164567)

Those semis are the first time I remember seeing two pink teams against each other. Sometime in the future, we need to come up with a pink alliance, like the maroon alliance that won the '07 championship.