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Walter Deitzler 18-04-2012 20:00

Teams to Watch
 
So now that the divisions are out and public, what teams should we be watching at Championships? What alliances could be formed with the potential of taking it all? What do you predict for Championships 2012? What underdog teams might do well?

CalTran 18-04-2012 20:07

Re: Teams to Watch
 
I predict Archimedes will be a bloodbath for division champions. The Hawaiian Kids 359 put up a solid performance at Lone Star, but were almost upset by the Cats from Atlanta 2415 in an amazing Semifinal match. Alas, there is also the number one ranked offensive robot in the world, and with 3 World Champion titles, they're itching to match Beatty for their 4th. The HOT Team 67 will be on fire when they line up to take shots. But, all three robots will have to band together if they want to even put a dent in the Canadian Powerhouse alliance of 2056 and 1114.

Sean Raia 18-04-2012 20:11

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Einsteins finals will include at least one of the following teams from Arch: 2056, 1114, 67. That division is favored.
Galileo will see close competition but in the long run will be the underdog division.
Curie looks very strong but I cant help but believe the curse will persist.
I cant say too much about Newton, but I dont expect to see them make finals on Einstein.

delsaner 18-04-2012 20:15

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Considering the spread of powerhouse team across the four fields, I feel that predicting an Einstein champion is going to be really difficult; there is at least three powerhouse teams on each division.

Some examples include...
Archimedes: 67, 1114, 2056
Newton: 111, 118, 469, 1717
Galileo: 16, 25, 148, 399
Curie: 233, 254, 341

...and they are only a few of many others! Whatever alliances come onto Einstein will be incredible. I will DEFINITELY be watching the Einstein matches.

dodar 18-04-2012 20:18

Re: Teams to Watch
 
I could see the main 2 teams from each field going to Einstein being:Archi-67/2056, Curie-233/341, Galileo-16/25, Newton-469/1717.

JABot67 18-04-2012 20:25

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Oooo, predictions!

I've never posted predictions on Chief Delphi before but here goes:

Archi: 67/2056
Curie: 341/1986 (due to triple balance over 987/254)
Galileo: 25/148
Newton: 1717/469

Einstein: 1717/469

Guessing the third robot is way too hard, so I'm not going to bother doing that.

Teams to watch: 16, 25, 67, 341, 469, 987, 1114, 1717, 2056. That's who I was watch if I wasn't affiliated with any team and wanted to watch some good robots do their things.

Grim Tuesday 18-04-2012 20:27

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 1159783)
Einsteins finals will include at least one of the following teams from Arch: 2056, 1114, 67. That division is favored.
Galileo will see close competition but in the long run will be the underdog division.
Curie looks very strong but I cant help but believe the curse will persist.
I cant say too much about Newton, but I dont expect to see them make finals on Einstein.

Are you joking? 469 and 1717 are the two strongest shooters in FIRST (based on Teleop OPR and most division wins), and are both on Newton. That said, I don't know how good of an alliance they make together. I wouldn't be surprised to see them battling for Newton Champions. Newton has a deeper field than the other divisions (higher avg OPR) so the third robot on the alliance should be a bit better. When you've got the number one and two robots battling the three and four, there isn't much variance. But effect of that third robot could be everything on Einstein.

O'Sancheski 18-04-2012 21:03

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Here are my predictions for the Championship. I have decided to do alliance selections this year!
Archimedes:
1. 1114 2056 2557 W
2. 67 973 2815 F
3. 195 359 190 SF
4. 2826 2415 1816 SF
5. 126 234 1902 QF
6. 3747 1676 2046 QF
7. 1592 1218 1868 QF
8. 716 781 1261 QF
Curie:
1. 987 341 244 W
2. 624 233 1678 F
3. 694 254 58 SF
4. 1477 971 3929 SF
5. 1986 604 51 QF
6. 3205 461 3951 QF
7. 525 78 1511 QF
8. 3098 27 85 QF
Galileo:
1. 2337 25 103 F
2. 180 48 1038 W
3. 33 148 1212 SF
4. 16 399 1515 QF
5. 1718 2054 1323 SF
6. 1732 1538 2016 QF
7. 573 125 1918 QF
8. 237 1714 2377 QF
Newton:
1. 1717 469 2067 W
2. 330 118 3255 F
3. 111 610 3230 SF
4. 222 365 2200 QF
5. 548 2122 340 SF
6. 181 1023 329 QF
7. 1519 842 175 QF
8. 1126 191 45 QF
Einstein:
Archimedes: 1114 2056 2557 F
Curie: 987 341 244 SF
Galileo: 180 48 1038 SF
Newton: 1717 469 2067 W

Let me know what you guys think.

Jefferson 18-04-2012 21:06

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1159787)
...Galileo-16/1986...

Sounds like fun, but Titanium is over in Curie.

JABot67 18-04-2012 21:08

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski (Post 1159807)
Here are my predictions for the Championship. I have decided to do alliance selections this year!
Curie:
1. 987 341 244 W
2. 624 233 1678 SF
3. 694 254 58 SF
4. 1477 971 3929 F
5. 1986 604 51 QF
6. 3205 461 3951 QF
7. 525 78 1511 QF
8. 3098 27 85 QF

Let me know what you guys think.

I see one problem. #1 and #4 cannot play against each other in the finals because they've already played against each other in the semis.

jyh947 18-04-2012 21:09

Re: Teams to Watch
 
The fight for the Number 1 seed in Archimedes is going to be huge in deciding who will represent that field on Einstein. Now the question is how political the coopertition bridge will get on that field.

alschnelle 18-04-2012 21:10

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1159787)
I could see the main 2 teams from each field going to Einstein being:Archi-67/2056, Curie-233/341, Galileo-16/1986, Newton-469/1717.

Team 1986 is in Curie. :)

O'Sancheski 18-04-2012 21:10

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 1159811)
I see one problem. #1 and #4 cannot play against each other in the finals because they've already played against each other in the semis.

My bad. I thought I got all the match-ups correct. I guess I should go back and look at the manual for tournament rules.:o

Billfred 18-04-2012 21:20

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski (Post 1159807)
Here are my predictions for the Championship. I have decided to do alliance selections this year!
Archimedes:
1. 1114 2056 2557 W
2. 67 973 2815 F
3. 195 359 190 SF
4. 2826 2415 1816 SF
5. 126 234 1902 QF
6. 3747 1676 2046 QF
7. 1592 1218 1868 QF
8. 716 781 1261 QF

Quote:

Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 1159811)
I see one problem...

I see another: 2815 getting picked before the last pick of the draft?! That hasn't happened since Palmetto 2010! :P

I think CalTran has the gist though--while the exact combination is impossible to determine, I think most of those teams will find themselves as dancing partners. (And we certainly hope to make the dance ourselves. :))

Peyton Yeung 18-04-2012 21:21

Re: Teams to Watch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1159781)
I predict Archimedes will be a bloodbath for division champions. The Hawaiian Kids 359 put up a solid performance at Lone Star, but were almost upset by the Cats from Atlanta 2415 in an amazing Semifinal match. Alas, there is also the number one ranked ranked offensive robot in the world, and with 3 World Champion titles, they're itching to match Beatty for their 4th. The HOT Team 67 will be on fire when they line up to take shots. But, all three robots will have to band together if they want to even put a dent in the Canadian Powerhouse alliance of 2056 and 1114.

This has an air of Looking Forward to it....


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